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Christie's Art Auctions , by Balboa on Apr 1, 2021 14:02:39 GMT 1, Correct. The timers aren't synchronised. Chaos about to ensue. Fine on my Chrome browser I'm using Chrome and it's out.
Correct. The timers aren't synchronised. Chaos about to ensue. Fine on my Chrome browser I'm using Chrome and it's out.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Balboa on Apr 1, 2021 13:58:32 GMT 1, No up until 1 hour ago the timers were set to the order in which they finished originally, so lot 4 for instance was finishing after lot 5, someone has picked up on this and done a small re-set, it would have been pretty chaotic otherwise. NO. eg. Cans 11 mins to go. Click on lot 6 mins to go. Correct. The timers aren't synchronised. Chaos about to ensue.
No up until 1 hour ago the timers were set to the order in which they finished originally, so lot 4 for instance was finishing after lot 5, someone has picked up on this and done a small re-set, it would have been pretty chaotic otherwise. NO. eg. Cans 11 mins to go. Click on lot 6 mins to go. Correct. The timers aren't synchronised. Chaos about to ensue.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Balboa on Mar 31, 2021 20:43:54 GMT 1, You need glass if it is anywhere near the sun. Several members have posted about it. Do you need glasses for UV protection or because the surface is too reflective? The latter.
You need glass if it is anywhere near the sun. Several members have posted about it. Do you need glasses for UV protection or because the surface is too reflective? The latter.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Balboa on Mar 30, 2021 18:01:31 GMT 1, That didn't age well ๐คฃ Protect his market place at all costs. The boo hoo worked.. Listen I have banksys , better results = more money for me. I guess Iโm just less bothered than others and would love his market to be โsensibleโ
Peckham Rocks donโt count as Banksys ๐
That didn't age well ๐คฃ Protect his market place at all costs. The boo hoo worked.. Listen I have banksys , better results = more money for me. I guess Iโm just less bothered than others and would love his market to be โsensibleโ Peckham Rocks donโt count as Banksys ๐
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Balboa on Mar 30, 2021 15:56:54 GMT 1, Christieโs was hacked and the hackers bid them down?? This all stinks of booo hooo for the banksy crew!! SAF! No. It's about not being able to bid them up.
Christieโs was hacked and the hackers bid them down?? This all stinks of booo hooo for the banksy crew!! SAF! No. It's about not being able to bid them up.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Balboa on Mar 30, 2021 15:45:37 GMT 1, I had a reply from Christie's to say they are investigating the problem "extremely urgently".
I had a reply from Christie's to say they are investigating the problem "extremely urgently".
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Balboa on Mar 30, 2021 15:12:18 GMT 1, Prices being shown now on Christieโs are hammer or hammer and bp? Canโt believe they had such a massive tech glitch with millions in this auction. Iโd be upset as a buyer at the buzzer and furious as a seller. If anyone wouldnโt mind posting the totals please? I believe the 'Price Realised' is Hammer + 25% Buyers Premium. VAT, if in the UK, needs to be added to the BP and ARR added to portions of the Hammer price, accordingly. As for the technical issues some have experienced, it seems Christies have it listed in their Conditions of Sale document: "C. DURING THE SALE 1. Connectivity and Technical Issues (a) Broadband or other internet capacity constraints, corporate firewalls and other technical problems beyond our reasonable control may create difficulties for some users including (but not limited to) accessing sales and maintaining continuity of such access. (b) Christieโs will not be responsible to you for errors or failures to execute bids placed on the internet or on your mobile device, including, without limitation, errors or failures caused by: (i) any loss of connection on Christieโs or your end to the online-only sale; (ii) a breakdown or problems with the online bidding software; and/or (iii) a breakdown or problems with any internet connection, computer, mobile device or system. Execution of online and mobile internet bids is a free service and Christieโs does not accept liability for your or our failing to access the bidding site or to execute an online or mobile internet bid or for errors or omissions in connection with this activity. In addition, we will not be responsible for any errors that may occur in the quality of digital images." I would certainly argue point 1 a) that it was in their control. My system works fine.
Prices being shown now on Christieโs are hammer or hammer and bp? Canโt believe they had such a massive tech glitch with millions in this auction. Iโd be upset as a buyer at the buzzer and furious as a seller. If anyone wouldnโt mind posting the totals please? I believe the 'Price Realised' is Hammer + 25% Buyers Premium. VAT, if in the UK, needs to be added to the BP and ARR added to portions of the Hammer price, accordingly. As for the technical issues some have experienced, it seems Christies have it listed in their Conditions of Sale document: "C. DURING THE SALE 1. Connectivity and Technical Issues (a) Broadband or other internet capacity constraints, corporate firewalls and other technical problems beyond our reasonable control may create difficulties for some users including (but not limited to) accessing sales and maintaining continuity of such access. (b) Christieโs will not be responsible to you for errors or failures to execute bids placed on the internet or on your mobile device, including, without limitation, errors or failures caused by: (i) any loss of connection on Christieโs or your end to the online-only sale; (ii) a breakdown or problems with the online bidding software; and/or (iii) a breakdown or problems with any internet connection, computer, mobile device or system. Execution of online and mobile internet bids is a free service and Christieโs does not accept liability for your or our failing to access the bidding site or to execute an online or mobile internet bid or for errors or omissions in connection with this activity. In addition, we will not be responsible for any errors that may occur in the quality of digital images." I would certainly argue point 1 a) that it was in their control. My system works fine.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Balboa on Mar 30, 2021 14:58:58 GMT 1, Will Christies even be aware? There were a couple of lots that should have flown yet either didn't sell or made low end of the estimates. I also noticed the clocks were way off. I've emailed James, so they should be aware now.
Will Christies even be aware? There were a couple of lots that should have flown yet either didn't sell or made low end of the estimates. I also noticed the clocks were way off. I've emailed James, so they should be aware now.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Balboa on Mar 30, 2021 14:55:48 GMT 1, I couldn't actually get onto the item I was interested in to bid. When I clicked on it I just circled me back to the list of all lots.
Something went technically wrong here.
I couldn't actually get onto the item I was interested in to bid. When I clicked on it I just circled me back to the list of all lots.
Something went technically wrong here.
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Morons Sepia at German auctionhouse Dannenberg 27 March, by Balboa on Mar 27, 2021 13:26:12 GMT 1, Letโs hope so. Iโm the highest bidder. We'll see when the live bidding starts. There's no advantage to playing your hand early.
Agreed. But thereโs also no point in bidding last if itโs not the highest.
Letโs hope so. Iโm the highest bidder. We'll see when the live bidding starts. There's no advantage to playing your hand early. Agreed. But thereโs also no point in bidding last if itโs not the highest.
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Morons Sepia at German auctionhouse Dannenberg 27 March, by Balboa on Mar 27, 2021 13:22:20 GMT 1, If anyone wants a bargain, this auction will be closing shortly. The lots are closing almost every 10 seconds... Morons only at โฌ24,000... the seller is going to get seriously ar5e fecked on this!!!! ๐ณ
Letโs hope so. Iโm the highest bidder.
If anyone wants a bargain, this auction will be closing shortly. The lots are closing almost every 10 seconds... Morons only at โฌ24,000... the seller is going to get seriously ar5e fecked on this!!!! ๐ณ Letโs hope so. Iโm the highest bidder.
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In Search of - Banksy print SIGNED with PC, by Balboa on Mar 24, 2021 22:49:49 GMT 1, 56700 GBP = 77600 USD Thank you 77600>75000
56700 GBP = 77600 USD Thank you 77600>75000
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Game Changer Auction, by Balboa on Mar 23, 2021 12:47:19 GMT 1, Is anyone on here going in on this? Yes. But I'm out if it goes above ยฃ10,000,000
Is anyone on here going in on this? Yes. But I'm out if it goes above ยฃ10,000,000
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Balboa on Mar 20, 2021 15:22:56 GMT 1, If youโre referring to the Choose Your Weapon post then yes, the post was massively wrong. It was stated categorically that they wonโt be worth as much in ten years. Ten years on and they are worth at least ten times as much. I'm referring to the mocking tone that people now, with full knowledge of what transpired, are looking back at said post with.ย Reality is, Banksy shouldn't have happened like it has.ย No historical precedent.ย Many things lining up that either didn't exist at the time that post was made or have never come to play in the ways they have since.ย You never bet on history changing because 99.9% of the time you lose that bet. 99.9% of art becomes worthless and unsalable and always has. For fun, let's go back and look at posts of people pumping stuff that within 10 years has become utterly worthless.ย That would provide some balance.ย Hell, if they will share them, we can survey for horror stories of people over-extending on credit cards chasing buy recommendations from people on this forum, and how it impacted their lives over the last decade.ย ย By and large, the person telling you NOT to buy art is telling you true.ย ย ย
Mocking tone? Calm the F down.
Itโs a light-hearted look back at peopleโs predictions.
Some were just better than others.
If youโre referring to the Choose Your Weapon post then yes, the post was massively wrong. It was stated categorically that they wonโt be worth as much in ten years. Ten years on and they are worth at least ten times as much. I'm referring to the mocking tone that people now, with full knowledge of what transpired, are looking back at said post with.ย Reality is, Banksy shouldn't have happened like it has.ย No historical precedent.ย Many things lining up that either didn't exist at the time that post was made or have never come to play in the ways they have since.ย You never bet on history changing because 99.9% of the time you lose that bet. 99.9% of art becomes worthless and unsalable and always has. For fun, let's go back and look at posts of people pumping stuff that within 10 years has become utterly worthless.ย That would provide some balance.ย Hell, if they will share them, we can survey for horror stories of people over-extending on credit cards chasing buy recommendations from people on this forum, and how it impacted their lives over the last decade.ย ย By and large, the person telling you NOT to buy art is telling you true.ย ย ย Mocking tone? Calm the F down. Itโs a light-hearted look back at peopleโs predictions. Some were just better than others.
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Balboa on Mar 20, 2021 12:52:24 GMT 1, Is Damien Hirst one person? Yes - this I can guarantee this ๐
Even Hirst himself admitted he had assistants painting his work.
Is Damien Hirst one person? Yes - this I can guarantee this ๐ Even Hirst himself admitted he had assistants painting his work.
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Balboa on Mar 20, 2021 8:51:15 GMT 1, Was his post wrong? Not terribly so. It was a logical conclusion based on evidence present at the time. What it didn't foresee was the art-world shift to Instagram, the manipulation in the Banksy print market by large inventory holders in order to run up prices, the choking off of supply by Pest Control/Banksy inc., and the dramatic run-up in collectibles market over the last year (that has less to do with inherent value of collectibles and more to do with both crypto money and with general social malaise/a trend towards infantilism). When you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras. That is true the vast majority of the time. Occasionally, it is a zebra. Occasionally, you get how the Banksy market turned out.ย ย
If youโre referring to the CYW post then yes, the post was massively wrong.
It was stated categorically that they wonโt be worth as much in ten years. Ten years on and they are worth at least ten times as much.
Was his post wrong? Not terribly so. It was a logical conclusion based on evidence present at the time. What it didn't foresee was the art-world shift to Instagram, the manipulation in the Banksy print market by large inventory holders in order to run up prices, the choking off of supply by Pest Control/Banksy inc., and the dramatic run-up in collectibles market over the last year (that has less to do with inherent value of collectibles and more to do with both crypto money and with general social malaise/a trend towards infantilism). When you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras. That is true the vast majority of the time. Occasionally, it is a zebra. Occasionally, you get how the Banksy market turned out.ย ย If youโre referring to the CYW post then yes, the post was massively wrong. It was stated categorically that they wonโt be worth as much in ten years. Ten years on and they are worth at least ten times as much.
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Banksy Prices Up or Down?, by Balboa on Mar 19, 2021 16:41:06 GMT 1, at this moment in time. WAY over priced. Look at what people are paying for Choose Your Weapon. Oooof. I hope they love them, because in 5-10 years time, they will not be holding their value. Well this post aged well
at this moment in time. WAY over priced. Look at what people are paying for Choose Your Weapon. Oooof. I hope they love them, because in 5-10 years time, they will not be holding their value. Well this post aged well
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Balboa on Mar 18, 2021 21:09:55 GMT 1, I love seeing owners panic and try and talk up prices of their prints when someone dares to advertise one for a current realistic value. Yeah big panic here with 60k as the realistic price. ๐ Itโs a signed banksy!! One of the only signed banksys we are 100% confident is by his hand. Unsigned prints going for 60k so how isnโt this more?? Iโm not selling until hits 150k I'm sorry but I've got to challenge this. Why are 'we' more confident that this was signed personally by Banksy than something from say 2004 when he wasn't a big deal?
I love seeing owners panic and try and talk up prices of their prints when someone dares to advertise one for a current realistic value. Yeah big panic here with 60k as the realistic price. ๐ Itโs a signed banksy!! One of the only signed banksys we are 100% confident is by his hand. Unsigned prints going for 60k so how isnโt this more?? Iโm not selling until hits 150k I'm sorry but I've got to challenge this. Why are 'we' more confident that this was signed personally by Banksy than something from say 2004 when he wasn't a big deal?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Balboa on Mar 18, 2021 15:42:56 GMT 1, The unsigned Toxic Mary is flying. Already more than several signed prints in this auction! Seriously, WTF has gone on here? Crazy I've always thought it was one of his more underrated prints. No longer it would seem.
The unsigned Toxic Mary is flying. Already more than several signed prints in this auction! Seriously, WTF has gone on here? Crazy I've always thought it was one of his more underrated prints. No longer it would seem.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Balboa on Mar 18, 2021 15:36:52 GMT 1, The unsigned Toxic Mary is flying. Already more than a couple of signed prints in this auction!
The unsigned Toxic Mary is flying. Already more than a couple of signed prints in this auction!
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Balboa on Mar 17, 2021 19:45:25 GMT 1, I made a quick google sheet on banksy value that summarizes the current bids in relation to market price estimates and historical records. Updating once every couple of hours for Sothebys and almost realtime for Christies auction: banksy-value.com/hot_auctions.html
And I thought I was an excel geek
Great work!
I made a quick google sheet on banksy value that summarizes the current bids in relation to market price estimates and historical records. Updating once every couple of hours for Sothebys and almost realtime for Christies auction: banksy-value.com/hot_auctions.htmlAnd I thought I was an excel geek Great work!
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Banksy Owners! How do you intend to avoid capital gains tax?, by Balboa on Mar 16, 2021 10:27:21 GMT 1, Probably a question for my accountant but does anyone have experience of selling an expensive piece that was acquired via a trade and how that works with CGT? Say for example I have a piece worth ยฃ50k that was effectively straight swapped for another print years before. When it comes to selling the print I have obviously have no record of having paid for the piece so does that mean I'm liable for paying tax on the full ยฃ50k (minus allowances)? All a touch confusing. Any help appreciated. Feel free to DM if easier. Many thanks I employ an accountant - but only to clean my moat.
I'll ask him when he's finished.
Probably a question for my accountant but does anyone have experience of selling an expensive piece that was acquired via a trade and how that works with CGT? Say for example I have a piece worth ยฃ50k that was effectively straight swapped for another print years before. When it comes to selling the print I have obviously have no record of having paid for the piece so does that mean I'm liable for paying tax on the full ยฃ50k (minus allowances)? All a touch confusing. Any help appreciated. Feel free to DM if easier. Many thanks I employ an accountant - but only to clean my moat. I'll ask him when he's finished.
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Damien Hirst Spot Prints, by Balboa on Mar 12, 2021 23:24:07 GMT 1, Lovely piece and GLWTS... Iโve never understood the shape- is there a reason for the cut corner? The only reason I can think of is so that the name 'Meprobamate' can be spelt out on the penultimate row using the controlled substances key. Though that doesn't really explain why it wasn't just made an 11 by whatever grid.
Just ignore me.
Lovely piece and GLWTS... Iโve never understood the shape- is there a reason for the cut corner? The only reason I can think of is so that the name 'Meprobamate' can be spelt out on the penultimate row using the controlled substances key. Though that doesn't really explain why it wasn't just made an 11 by whatever grid. Just ignore me.
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Damien Hirst Spot Prints, by Balboa on Mar 12, 2021 23:17:32 GMT 1, What's the UV protection rating of the glass?
What's the UV protection rating of the glass?
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Banksy โข Weston Super Mare Print, by Balboa on Mar 6, 2021 19:47:53 GMT 1, The seller quite clearly states they would get it removed from the frame for further inspection.
I donโt know why Iโm getting involved because this has absolutely nothing to do with me.
Come on people. This seller knows his sh*t. This wonโt have been mistreated. It would appear that his statement of framed with archival materials is incorrect. Also โno visibleโ issues does raise questions as to how a mounted piece will look once taken out of the mount... It may well be all 100% ok - but given the facts presented, I donโt think you should blindly reassure potential newbies looking to buy their first Banksy print without all the facts. I have no skin in the game...just looking out for everyone.
The seller quite clearly states they would get it removed from the frame for further inspection. I donโt know why Iโm getting involved because this has absolutely nothing to do with me. Come on people. This seller knows his sh*t. This wonโt have been mistreated. It would appear that his statement of framed with archival materials is incorrect. Also โno visibleโ issues does raise questions as to how a mounted piece will look once taken out of the mount... It may well be all 100% ok - but given the facts presented, I donโt think you should blindly reassure potential newbies looking to buy their first Banksy print without all the facts. I have no skin in the game...just looking out for everyone.
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Banksy โข Weston Super Mare Print, by Balboa on Mar 6, 2021 18:53:59 GMT 1, Come on people. This seller knows his sh*t. This wonโt have been mistreated.
Come on people. This seller knows his sh*t. This wonโt have been mistreated.
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Banksy โข Weston Super Mare Print, by Balboa on Mar 6, 2021 18:22:52 GMT 1, I canโt believe people turning their noses up at 70% UV protection.
I very much doubt this has been hung in direct sunlight or placed under a sun bed for extended periods of time.
I canโt believe people turning their noses up at 70% UV protection.
I very much doubt this has been hung in direct sunlight or placed under a sun bed for extended periods of time.
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One less morons - one purposely burnt , by Balboa on Mar 4, 2021 16:32:46 GMT 1, Great for everyone that owns the print, let these fool continue to burn them. it not great for anyone! there is nothing more disrespectful than destroying a work I beg to differ. Defecating on someone's grave is probably more disrespectful than that.
Great for everyone that owns the print, let these fool continue to burn them. it not great for anyone! there is nothing more disrespectful than destroying a work I beg to differ. Defecating on someone's grave is probably more disrespectful than that.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Balboa on Mar 4, 2021 11:24:19 GMT 1, And you didn't think to simply look on eBay? It was more of a witty quip, I wasn't actually wondering My apologies then. It went completely over my head.
I looked - and no, there aren't any yet. Just some small framed print-outs someone is selling for ยฃ12.99.
Looks like they've sold a few too.
And you didn't think to simply look on eBay? It was more of a witty quip, I wasn't actually wondering My apologies then. It went completely over my head. I looked - and no, there aren't any yet. Just some small framed print-outs someone is selling for ยฃ12.99. Looks like they've sold a few too.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Balboa on Mar 4, 2021 11:13:34 GMT 1, Are there any on eBay yet? And you didn't think to simply look on eBay?
Are there any on eBay yet? And you didn't think to simply look on eBay?
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