Urban Art Association

Fingers crossed dot dot.

Two u/s sold today for £540 & £565 at auction and they were UK based sellers. I imagine if it were a print based in the States or outside of the EU it would go for even less to UK buyers due to the attraction of import taxes.

What also is not helping the sellers of these prints is that their ebay accounts are relatively new, they have bugger all feedback and IMO should not be gone near, even with a 10' barge pole!

Bring on the price crash!!!

you've been waiting months to write that post eh J-boy

i think JBoy has a point. There is a lot less of his work available and clearly the galleries are shunning the secondary market in favour of making all the cash themselves - and that is exactly what any business would do.

Dface's work isn't being flooded at present, although I can see people are trying to tar it with the same brush in respect of offering low figures for his work, but any savvy seller will hold out and get a good price i think.

Looking forward to "D" day JBOY?

D'FACE's stuff certainly seems to going from strength to strength and good luck to the man.

What ever you do JBOY dont even consider swapping it for any of that SBFO stuff, as DFACE is in it for the long run where'as some of the others are just five minute wonders...

Im not going to open a can of worms, but i am very happy with keeping all my d*face stuff. Not because its going to be worth loads but i enjoy collecting it and always have done. Im just glad he is finally about to get his time in the spot light as he has worked hard to be there, unlike some who seem to just float in as snakes is saying.

For those that laughed at me when i told you 4 MONTHS AGO that the winner so far of the D*FACE wings contest was Ewan Mcgregor, heres proof....



D* said he is not an official contender on his site, so Ewan must have some D* stuff kicking around!

J ;D

Still waiting until I see the right frame for my DSTQ! If only Harvey would let on where he sources those OTT ornate frames from?

Perry - trying to keep them trollies pumped?!?! - you'l sell me your coloured for a grand by christmas pal!

It's not the flippers dictating prices, it's Laz hyping his artists out of all proportion so he can cream off as much money as possible. The fact that Laz sells a canvas for £5,000 one day then £35,000 the next clearly shows who's dictating the prices. Laz and POW want there artists to be big, VERY BIG, it's not about 'the street' or giving something back, they are businesses. Laz is as guilty as the average flipper, if Banksy gives him a canvas to sell, why sell it for £1,000 when you can sell it for £10,000. Exact same principle as a flipper. Some would argue that Laz puts something into the scene, but the input verus output is very distorted, he get's a lot more out of it than he put's in that's for sure. Most flippers are 'part of the scene' whether we like it or not, I think a lot of the Trollies prints are hitting eBay early as they have overspent on 'the scene' and need to pay their credit cards.

I have read many threads on this and I was determined not to get involved as it's soooooooooooooo boring, but let's not lose sight of the facts here. Elms have in the last few months also shown how they like to dictate the Neate prices, why blame the flippers for flogging a print with £500 profit when Elms have multiplied their prices by about 10 in a few months.

POW must be laughing all the way to the bank, instead of selling 650 prints (Grannies £175,000) they sell 1400 (Trolleys £518,750). How can they possible bitch about people selling prints for profit after the obscene profits they make!

IMO prices will continue to drop but will REALLY pick up again soon so if you were unlucky in not getting a print get one soon, OK you might have to give a flipper £250 extra but if you want the print for the long term you will be laughing (if you value the value of art that is). I don't really think Laz or POW could do anything to discourage people buying Banksy prints for profit so we all have to move on. Rant over, off to bed now!

Totally agree rupert. POW should be applauded for their recent releases. After a pretty dodgy start to the year they have really got their act together. The GIWTBB and Trolleys releases were about as perfect a release as you can get.

There is still room for improvement on their shipping time and packaging but POW are getting many more things right than they are wrong.

that's me then, I was online before and during the release, never saw a add to basket button once.

go figure.

I'm looking for a sensibly priced colour trolleys or have much stuff to trade.

Re Elms all I can say is that whenever I have gone to that gallery I have come away feeling that paul and fiona love the art and love what they do. I really cannot accept that money is their motivating factor,

Of course they are running a business so they would be crazy not to charge market rates for their products but this doesn't mean they are in it for the money.

Well said my fish eating friend.

Yeah, a lot people like to project their own personalities onto others. It's a lack of empathy, no ?, quite odd for someone collecting a type of art that requires it in bucketloads.