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Le Tour 2013, by decorum on Jul 4, 2013 18:07:03 GMT 1, I know a couple of peeps on here are following the Tour - any predictions for green and yellow?
I know a couple of peeps on here are following the Tour - any predictions for green and yellow?
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Le Tour 2013, by anbesivam1 on Jul 4, 2013 18:08:11 GMT 1, I know a couple of peeps on here are following the Tour - any predictions for green and yellow?
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Le Tour 2013, by bristolboy on Jul 4, 2013 18:33:06 GMT 1, Sagan green and Froome yellow. I'm really hoping Contador is on form too, just to make the mountains less dull than last years race.
Would enjoy watching Dan Martin take a stage too.
Sagan green and Froome yellow. I'm really hoping Contador is on form too, just to make the mountains less dull than last years race.
Would enjoy watching Dan Martin take a stage too.
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Le Tour 2013, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2013 18:45:39 GMT 1, Sagan green and Froome yellow. I'm really hoping Contador is on form too, just to make the mountains less dull than last years race. Would enjoy watching Dan Martin take a stage too.
I have to agree. I think injury will be the only thing that keeps Froome out of yellow. Froome looks to be in great form and sky have great strength in depth. Once again they have the best two in the field IMO. Porte will also podium
Not sure Cav has the appetite to fight for green this year, stage wins wil be his priority as usual, and if that brings green it will be a bonus
Sagan green and Froome yellow. I'm really hoping Contador is on form too, just to make the mountains less dull than last years race. Would enjoy watching Dan Martin take a stage too. I have to agree. I think injury will be the only thing that keeps Froome out of yellow. Froome looks to be in great form and sky have great strength in depth. Once again they have the best two in the field IMO. Porte will also podium Not sure Cav has the appetite to fight for green this year, stage wins wil be his priority as usual, and if that brings green it will be a bonus |
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Le Tour 2013, by johnnyh on Jul 4, 2013 20:19:03 GMT 1, Def Froome as mentioned watch out for Agent Prov as he is down at the tour hopefully helping his bro who has a micro brewery down there. Look out for some road painting
Def Froome as mentioned watch out for Agent Prov as he is down at the tour hopefully helping his bro who has a micro brewery down there. Look out for some road painting
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decorum
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Le Tour 2013, by decorum on Jul 4, 2013 20:28:27 GMT 1, Froome and Porte are a wicked combination. In top form and showing impressive strength. Gripel has a some nice support.. But I think Sagan will retain the green.
Froome and Porte are a wicked combination. In top form and showing impressive strength. Gripel has a some nice support.. But I think Sagan will retain the green.
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Le Tour 2013, by Dr Plip on Jul 4, 2013 22:13:22 GMT 1, Some classic teamwork. One guy steadies you, while the other lights your cigarette.
Some classic teamwork. One guy steadies you, while the other lights your cigarette.
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Le Tour 2013, by Damien on Jul 4, 2013 22:18:07 GMT 1, Some classic teamwork. One guy steadies you, while the other lights your cigarette.
Some classic teamwork. One guy steadies you, while the other lights your cigarette.
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Le Tour 2013, by balibob on Jul 5, 2013 10:20:49 GMT 1, Looking forward to the mountains this year to see if we get Froome attacking, but as long as Contador doesn't win (drugs cheat) I'll enjoy it anyway.
Looking forward to the mountains this year to see if we get Froome attacking, but as long as Contador doesn't win (drugs cheat) I'll enjoy it anyway.
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Le Tour 2013, by decorum on Jul 5, 2013 10:23:07 GMT 1, Im heading over to watch the double accent of Alpe d'Huez... will be awesome! Anyone else going?
Im heading over to watch the double accent of Alpe d'Huez... will be awesome! Anyone else going?
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Le Tour 2013, by Cornish Crayon on Jul 5, 2013 13:29:12 GMT 1, I miss my HD channels 
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Le Tour 2013, by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 0:01:48 GMT 1, After today I'd have to agree on Froome. I must admit before the race I didn't think he'd have the legs over Contador but he just outclassed everyone today on the first real test of the race. Froome's a great time trialist too so there's no problem in that department.
Yep I'll say Sagan all the way for the Green jersey. That guy can get up the hills so much better than the other sprinters and pick up more points that way as well as having a mean sprint himself.
As usual the KOM jersey is up for anyone who can climb well and is willing to really go for it on one or two days and try and mop up all the points.
I think it's gonna be a good race.
After today I'd have to agree on Froome. I must admit before the race I didn't think he'd have the legs over Contador but he just outclassed everyone today on the first real test of the race. Froome's a great time trialist too so there's no problem in that department.
Yep I'll say Sagan all the way for the Green jersey. That guy can get up the hills so much better than the other sprinters and pick up more points that way as well as having a mean sprint himself.
As usual the KOM jersey is up for anyone who can climb well and is willing to really go for it on one or two days and try and mop up all the points.
I think it's gonna be a good race.
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Le Tour 2013, by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 21:37:26 GMT 1, It's apparent that Froome was the stronger team rider last year and made what was perceived to be the ultimate sacrifice.
Either way, they're super human these lot, anyone who's had to try to ride up a mountain rather than a hill would understand.
It's apparent that Froome was the stronger team rider last year and made what was perceived to be the ultimate sacrifice.
Either way, they're super human these lot, anyone who's had to try to ride up a mountain rather than a hill would understand.
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Le Tour 2013, by DrWhite on Jul 11, 2013 0:42:44 GMT 1, Great TT result for Froome today, putting a nice little cushion between himself and the other GC contenders. Was there a brief mention that Cav got something thrown at him ?
Great TT result for Froome today, putting a nice little cushion between himself and the other GC contenders. Was there a brief mention that Cav got something thrown at him ?
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Le Tour 2013, by balibob on Jul 11, 2013 9:51:27 GMT 1, A bottle of urine apparently, some people are so classy.
A bottle of urine apparently, some people are so classy.
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Le Tour 2013, by DrWhite on Jul 11, 2013 12:04:28 GMT 1, I hope it was drug tested before throwing!
I hope it was drug tested before throwing!
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Le Tour 2013, by Deleted on Jul 13, 2013 14:01:38 GMT 1, A bottle of piss? Absolute scum, I wonder why people feel the need to do something like that.
On another note, after seeing the total destruction if Valverde yesterday in the crosswinds in what was supposed to be an 'easy' day and Froome losing a minute to Contador maybe this race isn't as clear cut as some people were thinking.
Exciting stuff : )
A bottle of piss? Absolute scum, I wonder why people feel the need to do something like that.
On another note, after seeing the total destruction if Valverde yesterday in the crosswinds in what was supposed to be an 'easy' day and Froome losing a minute to Contador maybe this race isn't as clear cut as some people were thinking.
Exciting stuff : )
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Le Tour 2013, by bristolboy on Jul 13, 2013 16:51:46 GMT 1, Getting piss thrown at you is sick and seems totally unlike cycling fans usual behaviour. Although Eddy Merckx got punched in the stomach one at the tour.
Sky seem up against, so many injuries and 'off days' though Froome still looks to be the strongest rider in the race. All in all I can't remember a more exciting tour and yet Mont Ventoux and Alpe d'huez are still to feature.
Getting piss thrown at you is sick and seems totally unlike cycling fans usual behaviour. Although Eddy Merckx got punched in the stomach one at the tour.
Sky seem up against, so many injuries and 'off days' though Froome still looks to be the strongest rider in the race. All in all I can't remember a more exciting tour and yet Mont Ventoux and Alpe d'huez are still to feature.
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Le Tour 2013, by Hubble Bubble on Jul 13, 2013 20:01:05 GMT 1, I reckon Froomey will give it a right go up Ventoux tomorrow. Wouldn't surprise me to see him get some time back from Bertie. Rode Ventoux last year from both sides and it's a brute of a climb!
I reckon Froomey will give it a right go up Ventoux tomorrow. Wouldn't surprise me to see him get some time back from Bertie. Rode Ventoux last year from both sides and it's a brute of a climb!
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Le Tour 2013, by Deleted on Jul 14, 2013 0:05:15 GMT 1, Yes Mt Ventoux is going to be a cracker alright.
Going off topic slightly but am I the only person who actually thinks that Contador shouldn't even have a professional licence? He's a great rider and exciting to watch but the guy's now failed two drugs tests. One failed test is bad enough and a ban should deal with it but two failed tests just shows him to be a serial cheat who will always now have a big question mark over his honesty and integrity.
Yes Mt Ventoux is going to be a cracker alright.
Going off topic slightly but am I the only person who actually thinks that Contador shouldn't even have a professional licence? He's a great rider and exciting to watch but the guy's now failed two drugs tests. One failed test is bad enough and a ban should deal with it but two failed tests just shows him to be a serial cheat who will always now have a big question mark over his honesty and integrity.
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Le Tour 2013, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Jul 14, 2013 7:36:19 GMT 1, Yes Mt Ventoux is going to be a cracker alright. Going off topic slightly but am I the only person who actually thinks that Contador shouldn't even have a professional licence? He's a great rider and exciting to watch but the guy's now failed two drugs tests. One failed test is bad enough and a ban should deal with it but two failed tests just shows him to be a serial cheat who will always now have a big question mark over his honesty and integrity.
Totally agree, for years I loved following the tour but you learn about the cheating and it makes you think "yeah Induriun & co must have been taking everything". For for me it's lost it's appeal, they reckon Cadel Evans 2 years ago was first ever straight winner. They should have a 'drugged up' tour and just leave them go nuts. I live in Sydney on outskirts of national park (cycling heaven) and my mate who rides says even the sunday riders are all on the juice. I remember drinking a glass of 'ultimate orange' before going on my mountain bike route years ago. It was better than speed... Nearly had a heart attack, my hair was standing on end but I knocked 10 mins off my quickest time and that's a legal substance!!
Yes Mt Ventoux is going to be a cracker alright. Going off topic slightly but am I the only person who actually thinks that Contador shouldn't even have a professional licence? He's a great rider and exciting to watch but the guy's now failed two drugs tests. One failed test is bad enough and a ban should deal with it but two failed tests just shows him to be a serial cheat who will always now have a big question mark over his honesty and integrity. Totally agree, for years I loved following the tour but you learn about the cheating and it makes you think "yeah Induriun & co must have been taking everything". For for me it's lost it's appeal, they reckon Cadel Evans 2 years ago was first ever straight winner. They should have a 'drugged up' tour and just leave them go nuts. I live in Sydney on outskirts of national park (cycling heaven) and my mate who rides says even the sunday riders are all on the juice. I remember drinking a glass of 'ultimate orange' before going on my mountain bike route years ago. It was better than speed... Nearly had a heart attack, my hair was standing on end but I knocked 10 mins off my quickest time and that's a legal substance!! |
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Le Tour 2013, by DrWhite on Jul 14, 2013 15:47:42 GMT 1, WOW ! Great show by Sky, Richie Porte did a great job setting up Froome. Vicious acceleration to drop Contador. A great result winning on Ventoux in yellow !
WOW ! Great show by Sky, Richie Porte did a great job setting up Froome. Vicious acceleration to drop Contador. A great result winning on Ventoux in yellow !
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Le Tour 2013, by johnnyh on Jul 14, 2013 15:54:32 GMT 1, Awsome result with the pressure on after a bad day to attack and win like that was superb. Back in control of the race. The mountain men will hopefully keep it up for the next couple of days. Froome looked the part today.
Awsome result with the pressure on after a bad day to attack and win like that was superb. Back in control of the race. The mountain men will hopefully keep it up for the next couple of days. Froome looked the part today.
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Le Tour 2013, by Hubble Bubble on Jul 14, 2013 16:34:52 GMT 1, Froomedog. Legend.
Froomedog. Legend.
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Le Tour 2013, by Deleted on Jul 15, 2013 17:16:09 GMT 1, Froome all the way!! The way he attacked Contador while still sitting in the saddle on Ventoux was astonishing.
Is this an off form Contador or just a 'clean' Contador we're seeing as he just hasn't got the legs this year.
On a side note - what is it with Andy Schleck these days? Did he just have one great year and that's it or is he just permanently 'not on form' these days as he's just not doing anything these days.
Froome all the way!! The way he attacked Contador while still sitting in the saddle on Ventoux was astonishing.
Is this an off form Contador or just a 'clean' Contador we're seeing as he just hasn't got the legs this year.
On a side note - what is it with Andy Schleck these days? Did he just have one great year and that's it or is he just permanently 'not on form' these days as he's just not doing anything these days.
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Le Tour 2013, by mmmike on Jul 15, 2013 18:41:39 GMT 1, Froome all the way!! The way he attacked Contador while still sitting in the saddle on Ventoux was astonishing. Is this an off form Contador or just a 'clean' Contador we're seeing as he just hasn't got the legs this year. On a side note - what is it with Andy Schleck these days? Did he just have one great year and that's it or is he just permanently 'not on form' these days as he's just not doing anything these days.
Froome all the way!! The way he attacked Contador while still sitting in the saddle on Ventoux was astonishing. Is this an off form Contador or just a 'clean' Contador we're seeing as he just hasn't got the legs this year. On a side note - what is it with Andy Schleck these days? Did he just have one great year and that's it or is he just permanently 'not on form' these days as he's just not doing anything these days. It could just be that Froome is dirty and the others are not (or less so right now). It was a very Lance like performance. Not saying I know he is dirty but I also don't know he isn't. If I was a betting man I'd bet on dirty. |
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Le Tour 2013, by Feral Things on Jul 15, 2013 19:13:16 GMT 1, The problem for any cyclist now is that they're competing in a sport which has been endemically dirty for generations. It must be incredibly frustrating for a clean cyclist to be suspected of doping just because they've trained very hard and won as a result, but to a certain extent the cycling authorities, the teams and many cyclists have destroyed their own sport. We've heard so many times how cycling has turned over a new leaf and how the Tour is clean but every cyclist I've supported since watching Claudio Chiappucci as a kid has eventually turned out to be dirty. Cycling may well now be clean but unfortunately past history would suggest this is just another false dawn.
The problem for any cyclist now is that they're competing in a sport which has been endemically dirty for generations. It must be incredibly frustrating for a clean cyclist to be suspected of doping just because they've trained very hard and won as a result, but to a certain extent the cycling authorities, the teams and many cyclists have destroyed their own sport. We've heard so many times how cycling has turned over a new leaf and how the Tour is clean but every cyclist I've supported since watching Claudio Chiappucci as a kid has eventually turned out to be dirty. Cycling may well now be clean but unfortunately past history would suggest this is just another false dawn.
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Le Tour 2013, by Shoot Again on Jul 15, 2013 19:39:51 GMT 1, If you believe Froome isn't fully doped then you need to have your head examined ;-) Pushing over 450 watts is absurd. Or even "mutant like" according to the ex Festina trainer - doping specialist. Another Tour wasted ;-(
If you believe Froome isn't fully doped then you need to have your head examined ;-) Pushing over 450 watts is absurd. Or even "mutant like" according to the ex Festina trainer - doping specialist. Another Tour wasted ;-(
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Le Tour 2013, by Deleted on Jul 16, 2013 12:18:27 GMT 1, And herein lies the problem with professional cycling. There's been so many problems with doping in the past that anyone doing as well as Froome will come under suspicion.
I really really hope he hasn't been doping as that would hold suspicioun under the whole of Team Sky and put Wiggin's 2012 victory in doubt too.
What's more worrying for me about the past is not the doping but the alleged payments to the UCI doping lab by the US Postal team and the coverup afterwards. The fact that the UCI lab still refuses to release the details of Armstrong's first test (allegedly the drugs test he failed in the Tour Of Switzerland in 2001) shows that something rotten has been going on and people are still lying now.
And herein lies the problem with professional cycling. There's been so many problems with doping in the past that anyone doing as well as Froome will come under suspicion.
I really really hope he hasn't been doping as that would hold suspicioun under the whole of Team Sky and put Wiggin's 2012 victory in doubt too.
What's more worrying for me about the past is not the doping but the alleged payments to the UCI doping lab by the US Postal team and the coverup afterwards. The fact that the UCI lab still refuses to release the details of Armstrong's first test (allegedly the drugs test he failed in the Tour Of Switzerland in 2001) shows that something rotten has been going on and people are still lying now.
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Le Tour 2013, by Hubble Bubble on Jul 16, 2013 15:54:24 GMT 1, If you believe Froome isn't fully doped then you need to have your head examined ;-) Pushing over 450 watts is absurd. Or even "mutant like" according to the ex Festina trainer - doping specialist. Another Tour wasted ;-(
I respect your thoughts and opinions but it's become very easy to say 'all cyclists are dopers' when the sport has made and is making great efforts to clean itself up. An athlete like Froome deserves the benefit of the doubt - in my opinion that is.
peace and love
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If you believe Froome isn't fully doped then you need to have your head examined ;-) Pushing over 450 watts is absurd. Or even "mutant like" according to the ex Festina trainer - doping specialist. Another Tour wasted ;-( I'll go on record and say that I think you're wrong shootagain. The sport isn't clean... no sport is. But it's a hell of a lot cleaner than it was in recent years. Anyone can push 450 watts - if you're quoting stats like this you should know that - it's a case of how long you can push 450 watts for and under what conditions, in particular being able to sustain this effort and minimise the build up of lactic acid in the muscles. Team Sky's training is relentlessly geared to delivering this level of power output on a sustained and sustainable basis. It's all they do... day in, day out, for the winter months. That's why you don't see them 'surge' on mountains. I respect your thoughts and opinions but it's become very easy to say 'all cyclists are dopers' when the sport has made and is making great efforts to clean itself up. An athlete like Froome deserves the benefit of the doubt - in my opinion that is. peace and love HB |
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