ilmambo
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Advice needed?, by ilmambo on Aug 7, 2013 16:07:48 GMT 1, So I really didn't want to come out in public with this but I'd apreciate some advices and help.
4 months ago when Eine released the "Adventure" print at Coachella, forum member backpackpunk kindly offered to help who couldn't attend the concert and buy some prints. I contacted him because I was interested, the deal was for $400 ($300 the print cost, $60 for shipping full insured and $40 extra for "beers"). That was fine to me, but asked him to mark down the value of the print so I could have saved some cash on customs fees, at first he was reluctant to do so because he didn't want any problems if the print arrived damaged or got lost but I said I wasn't going to blame him if that happened and he agreed.
I sent the money, he bought and shipped the print and on May 3rd I received it. First of all, unfortunately the print got damaged in transit, a couple of dinks on the border, nothing too bad that could be easily framed out. The biggest surprise was that even if he agreed with me to mark down the value on customs form, he actually put a value of $400 on it, which was even more that the value of the print itself and so I had to pay 100โฌ on customs fees.
I contacted him, he asked to send him pictures so he could start a insurance claim with USPS for the damage. I sent everything and about 10 days later (May 14th) he contacted me again saying that USPS rejected the claim, because it's paper and they don't considered that damage, just paper anomalies.
That honestly sounds ridiculous to me, what's the point of insuring a print then?
He also asked me how much I was looking to get back so he could try to file a partial claim, I told him that at least half ($200) would have been nice, at least to cover the extra customs fees I had to pay and possibile some restoration expenses, or just use his best judgment and do what he thought could have been better, since he spoke to USPS and all that.
Since than I tried to PM and email him asking for news but he's gone completely quiet. Apparently he still visits the forum regularly but no answers neither to my PMs nor to my email.
Anyone has been in touch with him recently? Can I do anything with USPS, maybe file a insurance claim myself, or it's probably too late anyway?
This whole thing just left a bad taste in my mouth... any help or advice is appreciated. thanks
So I really didn't want to come out in public with this but I'd apreciate some advices and help. 4 months ago when Eine released the "Adventure" print at Coachella, forum member backpackpunk kindly offered to help who couldn't attend the concert and buy some prints. I contacted him because I was interested, the deal was for $400 ($300 the print cost, $60 for shipping full insured and $40 extra for "beers"). That was fine to me, but asked him to mark down the value of the print so I could have saved some cash on customs fees, at first he was reluctant to do so because he didn't want any problems if the print arrived damaged or got lost but I said I wasn't going to blame him if that happened and he agreed. I sent the money, he bought and shipped the print and on May 3rd I received it. First of all, unfortunately the print got damaged in transit, a couple of dinks on the border, nothing too bad that could be easily framed out. The biggest surprise was that even if he agreed with me to mark down the value on customs form, he actually put a value of $400 on it, which was even more that the value of the print itself and so I had to pay 100โฌ on customs fees. I contacted him, he asked to send him pictures so he could start a insurance claim with USPS for the damage. I sent everything and about 10 days later (May 14th) he contacted me again saying that USPS rejected the claim, because it's paper and they don't considered that damage, just paper anomalies. That honestly sounds ridiculous to me, what's the point of insuring a print then? He also asked me how much I was looking to get back so he could try to file a partial claim, I told him that at least half ($200) would have been nice, at least to cover the extra customs fees I had to pay and possibile some restoration expenses, or just use his best judgment and do what he thought could have been better, since he spoke to USPS and all that. Since than I tried to PM and email him asking for news but he's gone completely quiet. Apparently he still visits the forum regularly but no answers neither to my PMs nor to my email. Anyone has been in touch with him recently? Can I do anything with USPS, maybe file a insurance claim myself, or it's probably too late anyway? This whole thing just left a bad taste in my mouth... any help or advice is appreciated. thanks
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disdig1
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Advice needed?, by disdig1 on Aug 7, 2013 16:25:55 GMT 1, first you should of just filed a claim right away with paypal assuming that is how you gave him the money, they would of had your back and this wouldn't be an issue.
when it comes to insuring prints and damage through USPS if the tube isn't damaged by them and damage does occur it will be denied 100% of the time. they will say it was your fault and wasn't packaged properly which is most likely the case here. if you paid with a credit card you may be able to still do a charge back but its past the 45 days on paypal to file a claim.
hopefully the seller sees this, does the right thing and at least gives you a partial refund.
first you should of just filed a claim right away with paypal assuming that is how you gave him the money, they would of had your back and this wouldn't be an issue.
when it comes to insuring prints and damage through USPS if the tube isn't damaged by them and damage does occur it will be denied 100% of the time. they will say it was your fault and wasn't packaged properly which is most likely the case here. if you paid with a credit card you may be able to still do a charge back but its past the 45 days on paypal to file a claim.
hopefully the seller sees this, does the right thing and at least gives you a partial refund.
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ilmambo
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Advice needed?, by ilmambo on Aug 7, 2013 16:47:40 GMT 1, I was recently denied an Insurance claim through USPS. Its a joke if you are dealing with minor damage, don't think you can do much.
I see, thanks. I'm not really bothered by the damage, it's there... but not a big deal. Still, since he insisted so much in insuring the print (and did it anyway even when I asked him not) I was hoping to received something back. And I'm definitely more annoyed by the fact that he's gone quiet on me.
first you should of just filed a claim right away with paypal assuming that is how you gave him the money, they would of had your back and this wouldn't be an issue. when it comes to insuring prints and damage through USPS if the tube isn't damaged by them and damage does occur it will be denied 100% of the time. they will say it was your fault and wasn't packaged properly which is most likely the case here. if you paid with a credit card you may be able to still do a charge back but its past the 45 days on paypal to file a claim. hopefully the seller sees this, does the right thing and at least gives you a partial refund.
I didn't start a paypal claim because it's not really his fault if the print got damaged and I thought it wasn't fair to blame him for that. The packaging was good, and I'm sure he bought and sent at least 5 or 6 other Eine prints and pretty much all of them arrived safe and sound. Bad luck I guess?
It's good to know now that unless the print gets lost or really badly damaged, USPS insurance seems to be useless, I also would have saved โฌ100 on customs fees.
I was recently denied an Insurance claim through USPS. Its a joke if you are dealing with minor damage, don't think you can do much. I see, thanks. I'm not really bothered by the damage, it's there... but not a big deal. Still, since he insisted so much in insuring the print (and did it anyway even when I asked him not) I was hoping to received something back. And I'm definitely more annoyed by the fact that he's gone quiet on me. first you should of just filed a claim right away with paypal assuming that is how you gave him the money, they would of had your back and this wouldn't be an issue. when it comes to insuring prints and damage through USPS if the tube isn't damaged by them and damage does occur it will be denied 100% of the time. they will say it was your fault and wasn't packaged properly which is most likely the case here. if you paid with a credit card you may be able to still do a charge back but its past the 45 days on paypal to file a claim. hopefully the seller sees this, does the right thing and at least gives you a partial refund. I didn't start a paypal claim because it's not really his fault if the print got damaged and I thought it wasn't fair to blame him for that. The packaging was good, and I'm sure he bought and sent at least 5 or 6 other Eine prints and pretty much all of them arrived safe and sound. Bad luck I guess? It's good to know now that unless the print gets lost or really badly damaged, USPS insurance seems to be useless, I also would have saved โฌ100 on customs fees.
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rexxington
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Advice needed?, by rexxington on Aug 7, 2013 17:03:46 GMT 1, if the print was shipped from US to UK and the value stated as $400, you should be paying around $20 for VAT / duty (5% of $400). it appears as if you've been charged the full 20% VAT / duty rate in error plus courier fees. take it up with Royal Mail / Parcelforce
if the print was shipped from US to UK and the value stated as $400, you should be paying around $20 for VAT / duty (5% of $400). it appears as if you've been charged the full 20% VAT / duty rate in error plus courier fees. take it up with Royal Mail / Parcelforce
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ilmambo
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Advice needed?, by ilmambo on Aug 7, 2013 17:05:37 GMT 1, I live in Italy, not the UK.
I live in Italy, not the UK.
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Advice needed?, by M on Aug 7, 2013 17:10:14 GMT 1, storm in a tea cup being a Monaco resident is all you need (no taxes)
storm in a tea cup being a Monaco resident is all you need (no taxes)
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street4RT
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Advice needed?, by street4RT on Aug 7, 2013 17:32:20 GMT 1, if the print was shipped from US to UK and the value stated as $400, you should be paying around $20 for VAT / duty (5% of $400). it appears as if you've been charged the full 20% VAT / duty rate in error plus courier fees. take it up with Royal Mail / Parcelforce
Are you sure about that??
I thought it was 20%??
if the print was shipped from US to UK and the value stated as $400, you should be paying around $20 for VAT / duty (5% of $400). it appears as if you've been charged the full 20% VAT / duty rate in error plus courier fees. take it up with Royal Mail / Parcelforce Are you sure about that?? I thought it was 20%??
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iamzero
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Advice needed?, by iamzero on Aug 7, 2013 17:38:53 GMT 1, Back to the 20% charged argument with delivery companies again, hand finished artwork should only be charged at 5%. Members in here did have good dealings with BPP though, I didn't order one due to my own paranoid head.
Back to the 20% charged argument with delivery companies again, hand finished artwork should only be charged at 5%. Members in here did have good dealings with BPP though, I didn't order one due to my own paranoid head.
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Advice needed?, by street4RT on Aug 7, 2013 17:49:07 GMT 1, Back to the 20% charged argument with delivery companies again, hand finished artwork should only be charged at 5%. Members in here did have good dealings with BPP though, I didn't order one due to my own paranoid head.
iamzero
So does that apply to any screenprints??
Back to the 20% charged argument with delivery companies again, hand finished artwork should only be charged at 5%. Members in here did have good dealings with BPP though, I didn't order one due to my own paranoid head. iamzeroSo does that apply to any screenprints??
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rexxington
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Advice needed?, by rexxington on Aug 7, 2013 17:50:48 GMT 1, yes, 5% VAT reduced rate to UK. there are some detailed threads on this somewhere....
yes, 5% VAT reduced rate to UK. there are some detailed threads on this somewhere....
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iamzero
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Advice needed?, by iamzero on Aug 7, 2013 17:55:09 GMT 1, I remember reading that if the art is non mechanical ie. hand pulled like screen print and not made on a machine like giclee or other digital prints then the rate is 5%. I have successfully claimed refunds from UPS for this. In theory if a giclee is hand numbered and signed then the same rate applies as it is essentially hand finished though.
I remember reading that if the art is non mechanical ie. hand pulled like screen print and not made on a machine like giclee or other digital prints then the rate is 5%. I have successfully claimed refunds from UPS for this. In theory if a giclee is hand numbered and signed then the same rate applies as it is essentially hand finished though.
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Advice needed?, by Con Art Studio on Aug 7, 2013 17:59:16 GMT 1, I didn't start a paypal claim because it's not really his fault if the print got damaged and I thought it wasn't fair to blame him for that. The packaging was good, and I'm sure he bought and sent at least 5 or 6 other Eine prints and pretty much all of them arrived safe and sound. Bad luck I guess? he bought and shipped a hell of a lot more than 5 or 6 prints, so i would say that it was definitely bad luck. he went above and beyond to hook people up with that print. i haven't seen him around on any of the forums since then, maybe he's just been busy?
I didn't start a paypal claim because it's not really his fault if the print got damaged and I thought it wasn't fair to blame him for that. The packaging was good, and I'm sure he bought and sent at least 5 or 6 other Eine prints and pretty much all of them arrived safe and sound. Bad luck I guess? he bought and shipped a hell of a lot more than 5 or 6 prints, so i would say that it was definitely bad luck. he went above and beyond to hook people up with that print. i haven't seen him around on any of the forums since then, maybe he's just been busy?
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Advice needed?, by rexxington on Aug 7, 2013 18:01:53 GMT 1, art needs to have the right tariff code displayed. from hmrc:
11.1 Works of art
Pictures, collages and similar decorative plaques, paintings and drawings, executed entirely by hand by the artist, other than plans and drawings for architectural, engineering, industrial, commercial, topographical or similar purposes, hand-decorated manufactured articles, theatrical scenery, studio back cloths or the like of painted canvas (Tariff heading 9701). Original engravings, prints and lithographs, being impressions produced in limited numbers directly in black and white or in colour of one or several plates executed entirely by hand by the artist, irrespective of the process or of the material employed by him, but not including any mechanical or photomechanical process (Tariff code 9702 00 00). Original sculptures and statuary, in any material, provided that they are executed entirely by the artist, sculpture casts (Tariff code 9703 00 00). See Notice 718 The VAT Margin Scheme and global accounting, for the definition of sculpture casts. Tapestries (Tariff code 5805 00 00) and wall textiles, made by hand from original designs provided by artists, provided that there are not more than eight copies of each. Individual pieces of ceramics executed entirely by the artist and signed by him. Enamels on copper, executed entirely by hand, limited to eight numbered copies bearing the signature of the artist or the studio, excluding articles of jewellery and goldsmithsโ and silversmithsโ wares. Photographs taken by the artist, printed by him or under his supervision, signed and numbered and limited to 30 copies, all sizes and mounts included.
art needs to have the right tariff code displayed. from hmrc:
11.1 Works of art
Pictures, collages and similar decorative plaques, paintings and drawings, executed entirely by hand by the artist, other than plans and drawings for architectural, engineering, industrial, commercial, topographical or similar purposes, hand-decorated manufactured articles, theatrical scenery, studio back cloths or the like of painted canvas (Tariff heading 9701). Original engravings, prints and lithographs, being impressions produced in limited numbers directly in black and white or in colour of one or several plates executed entirely by hand by the artist, irrespective of the process or of the material employed by him, but not including any mechanical or photomechanical process (Tariff code 9702 00 00). Original sculptures and statuary, in any material, provided that they are executed entirely by the artist, sculpture casts (Tariff code 9703 00 00). See Notice 718 The VAT Margin Scheme and global accounting, for the definition of sculpture casts. Tapestries (Tariff code 5805 00 00) and wall textiles, made by hand from original designs provided by artists, provided that there are not more than eight copies of each. Individual pieces of ceramics executed entirely by the artist and signed by him. Enamels on copper, executed entirely by hand, limited to eight numbered copies bearing the signature of the artist or the studio, excluding articles of jewellery and goldsmithsโ and silversmithsโ wares. Photographs taken by the artist, printed by him or under his supervision, signed and numbered and limited to 30 copies, all sizes and mounts included.
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ilmambo
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Advice needed?, by ilmambo on Aug 7, 2013 18:17:30 GMT 1, I didn't start a paypal claim because it's not really his fault if the print got damaged and I thought it wasn't fair to blame him for that. The packaging was good, and I'm sure he bought and sent at least 5 or 6 other Eine prints and pretty much all of them arrived safe and sound. Bad luck I guess? he bought and shipped a hell of a lot more than 5 or 6 prints, so i would say that it was definitely bad luck. he went above and beyond to hook people up with that print. i haven't seen him around on any of the forums since then, maybe he's just been busy?
Well, if you check his profile on this forum it says he last visited it yesterday (and many other times since May 14th, when I last heard of him) so I may understand being busy, but this doesn't seem the case.
Also if you guys could keep the VAT discussion out of this thread I'd appreciate it, since it has nothing to do with it.
I didn't start a paypal claim because it's not really his fault if the print got damaged and I thought it wasn't fair to blame him for that. The packaging was good, and I'm sure he bought and sent at least 5 or 6 other Eine prints and pretty much all of them arrived safe and sound. Bad luck I guess? he bought and shipped a hell of a lot more than 5 or 6 prints, so i would say that it was definitely bad luck. he went above and beyond to hook people up with that print. i haven't seen him around on any of the forums since then, maybe he's just been busy? Well, if you check his profile on this forum it says he last visited it yesterday (and many other times since May 14th, when I last heard of him) so I may understand being busy, but this doesn't seem the case. Also if you guys could keep the VAT discussion out of this thread I'd appreciate it, since it has nothing to do with it.
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Gard
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Advice needed?, by Gard on Aug 7, 2013 18:41:38 GMT 1, Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, but things like this happens all the time with galleries and members on here (It has happened to me more then one time). I got one of them myself and was super happy with Backpackpunk. He just wanted to help some forum members out and get them a hard to obtain print, he's not flipping them. So when you sending him claims after he tried to help you out I would be pissed off. Not justifying his actions just trying to see things from his perspective.
Here in Norway they stop most of my packages and I have to send them a receipt of what I paid for it. So most of the time it doesn't help to put a lower value on the package. Don't know if they do the same in Italy, but if I sold you a print I would never agree to pay you back the VAT that you by law should pay.
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, but things like this happens all the time with galleries and members on here (It has happened to me more then one time). I got one of them myself and was super happy with Backpackpunk. He just wanted to help some forum members out and get them a hard to obtain print, he's not flipping them. So when you sending him claims after he tried to help you out I would be pissed off. Not justifying his actions just trying to see things from his perspective.
Here in Norway they stop most of my packages and I have to send them a receipt of what I paid for it. So most of the time it doesn't help to put a lower value on the package. Don't know if they do the same in Italy, but if I sold you a print I would never agree to pay you back the VAT that you by law should pay.
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Advice needed?, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 18:47:05 GMT 1, he bought and shipped a hell of a lot more than 5 or 6 prints, so i would say that it was definitely bad luck. he went above and beyond to hook people up with that print. i haven't seen him around on any of the forums since then, maybe he's just been busy? That sounds like a load of crap conartsudio. If someone wants to make things right they can. He knows what's going but doesn't want to deal with it. If you decided to do a 'favor' for someone (if you want to call it that consider the guy did make a few dollars on each print for "drinks") you see it through. Sure he didn't personally damage the print but can help make it right. Isn't that what this gesture was about in the first place?
Ilambo sounds like a stand up guy who's handled the situation as calmly and nice as possible but this is the way life works sometimes. People don't hold up there end of the bargain. My advice to Ilambo is to just let it go. Really nothing you can do about it at this point but chalk it up to a bad experience. Easy for me to say because I'm not the one with the damaged print or bad experience but hopefully it comes back to you in a good way next time 10x.
he bought and shipped a hell of a lot more than 5 or 6 prints, so i would say that it was definitely bad luck. he went above and beyond to hook people up with that print. i haven't seen him around on any of the forums since then, maybe he's just been busy? That sounds like a load of crap conartsudio. If someone wants to make things right they can. He knows what's going but doesn't want to deal with it. If you decided to do a 'favor' for someone (if you want to call it that consider the guy did make a few dollars on each print for "drinks") you see it through. Sure he didn't personally damage the print but can help make it right. Isn't that what this gesture was about in the first place? Ilambo sounds like a stand up guy who's handled the situation as calmly and nice as possible but this is the way life works sometimes. People don't hold up there end of the bargain. My advice to Ilambo is to just let it go. Really nothing you can do about it at this point but chalk it up to a bad experience. Easy for me to say because I'm not the one with the damaged print or bad experience but hopefully it comes back to you in a good way next time 10x.
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Advice needed?, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 18:50:17 GMT 1, Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, but things like this happens all the time with galleries and members on here (It has happened to me more then one time). I got one of them myself and was super happy with Backpackpunk. He just wanted to help some forum members out and get them a hard to obtain print, he's not flipping them. So when you sending him claims after he tried to help you out I would be pissed off. Not justifying his actions just trying to see things from his perspective. Here in Norway they stop most of my packages and I have to send them a receipt of what I paid for it. So most of the time it doesn't help to put a lower value on the package. Don't know if they do the same in Italy, but if I sold you a print I would never agree to pay you back the VAT that you by law should pay. With all due respect Gard you got yours safe and sound so your happy but put yourself in Ilambo's shoes for a second. All he's doing is asking the one person who might be able to help him reclaim some funds to help a offset his troubles. Yes the paperwork sucks but you try to figure it out. We're all adults on here I think?
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, but things like this happens all the time with galleries and members on here (It has happened to me more then one time). I got one of them myself and was super happy with Backpackpunk. He just wanted to help some forum members out and get them a hard to obtain print, he's not flipping them. So when you sending him claims after he tried to help you out I would be pissed off. Not justifying his actions just trying to see things from his perspective. Here in Norway they stop most of my packages and I have to send them a receipt of what I paid for it. So most of the time it doesn't help to put a lower value on the package. Don't know if they do the same in Italy, but if I sold you a print I would never agree to pay you back the VAT that you by law should pay. With all due respect Gard you got yours safe and sound so your happy but put yourself in Ilambo's shoes for a second. All he's doing is asking the one person who might be able to help him reclaim some funds to help a offset his troubles. Yes the paperwork sucks but you try to figure it out. We're all adults on here I think?
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iamzero
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Advice needed?, by iamzero on Aug 7, 2013 19:13:04 GMT 1, No offence ilmambo. I had this discussion over buying this print from BPP with my missus and the main reason I didn't go for the deal was the problem if it turned up damaged. And you're right this dude did make money albeit not loads but still rude not responding.
No offence ilmambo. I had this discussion over buying this print from BPP with my missus and the main reason I didn't go for the deal was the problem if it turned up damaged. And you're right this dude did make money albeit not loads but still rude not responding.
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ilmambo
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Advice needed?, by ilmambo on Aug 7, 2013 19:39:43 GMT 1, Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, but things like this happens all the time with galleries and members on here (It has happened to me more then one time). I got one of them myself and was super happy with Backpackpunk. He just wanted to help some forum members out and get them a hard to obtain print, he's not flipping them. So when you sending him claims after he tried to help you out I would be pissed off. Not justifying his actions just trying to see things from his perspective. Here in Norway they stop most of my packages and I have to send them a receipt of what I paid for it. So most of the time it doesn't help to put a lower value on the package. Don't know if they do the same in Italy, but if I sold you a print I would never agree to pay you back the VAT that you by law should pay.
You probably misread my first post.
I never blamed him for the damage, the only thing he did that disappointed me was agreeing to mark a low value on the print but find out, only after I recived it, that he didn't. After that, when I informed him that the print also had some light damage, he said he'd file a claim to USPS and I said thanks and sent the pictures he requested. I also never asked him to personally refund me, or to refund the customs fees that I had to pay.
Since May 14th, when he informed me that the claim got rejected and asked me how much I was looking for for a partial claim, I PM'd him multiple times (Jul 8th, Jul 20th, Aug 2nd) only asking for news or an update, nothing else, but he never replied. I also emailed him a couple times, no answers either.
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, but things like this happens all the time with galleries and members on here (It has happened to me more then one time). I got one of them myself and was super happy with Backpackpunk. He just wanted to help some forum members out and get them a hard to obtain print, he's not flipping them. So when you sending him claims after he tried to help you out I would be pissed off. Not justifying his actions just trying to see things from his perspective. Here in Norway they stop most of my packages and I have to send them a receipt of what I paid for it. So most of the time it doesn't help to put a lower value on the package. Don't know if they do the same in Italy, but if I sold you a print I would never agree to pay you back the VAT that you by law should pay. You probably misread my first post. I never blamed him for the damage, the only thing he did that disappointed me was agreeing to mark a low value on the print but find out, only after I recived it, that he didn't. After that, when I informed him that the print also had some light damage, he said he'd file a claim to USPS and I said thanks and sent the pictures he requested. I also never asked him to personally refund me, or to refund the customs fees that I had to pay. Since May 14th, when he informed me that the claim got rejected and asked me how much I was looking for for a partial claim, I PM'd him multiple times (Jul 8th, Jul 20th, Aug 2nd) only asking for news or an update, nothing else, but he never replied. I also emailed him a couple times, no answers either.
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Advice needed?, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 19:44:10 GMT 1, Normal thing to do would be to use his judgement, in this case, minimum your $40 beer money back and to be fair, another $10 (to show he's being fair), end of story.
Normal thing to do would be to use his judgement, in this case, minimum your $40 beer money back and to be fair, another $10 (to show he's being fair), end of story.
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Advice needed?, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 19:44:37 GMT 1, Normal thing to do would be to use his own judgement, in this case, minimum your $40 beer money back and to be fair, another $10 (to show he's being fair), end of story.
Normal thing to do would be to use his own judgement, in this case, minimum your $40 beer money back and to be fair, another $10 (to show he's being fair), end of story.
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ilmambo
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Advice needed?, by ilmambo on Aug 7, 2013 19:45:01 GMT 1, My advice to Ilambo is to just let it go. Really nothing you can do about it at this point but chalk it up to a bad experience. Easy for me to say because I'm not the one with the damaged print or bad experience but hopefully it comes back to you in a good way next time 10x.
Thanks mate and I will. I honestly started this thread to know if maybe someone dealt or spoke with him recently, to know if he's deliberately ignoring all my messages and emails or not... A simple "the partial claim got rejected too, sorry" answer would have been enough, I honestly would have never asked him to take some money out of his pocket anyway, since as I said already, it's not really his fault if the print got damaged...
My advice to Ilambo is to just let it go. Really nothing you can do about it at this point but chalk it up to a bad experience. Easy for me to say because I'm not the one with the damaged print or bad experience but hopefully it comes back to you in a good way next time 10x. Thanks mate and I will. I honestly started this thread to know if maybe someone dealt or spoke with him recently, to know if he's deliberately ignoring all my messages and emails or not... A simple "the partial claim got rejected too, sorry" answer would have been enough, I honestly would have never asked him to take some money out of his pocket anyway, since as I said already, it's not really his fault if the print got damaged...
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curiousgeorge
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Advice needed?, by curiousgeorge on Aug 7, 2013 20:22:04 GMT 1, In a perfect world with open lines of communication I would personally chalk it up as 'life experience' However....
Being ignored I totally understand why you are frustrated and possibly goes a long way in explaining why you have had to post here
In a perfect world with open lines of communication I would personally chalk it up as 'life experience' However....
Being ignored I totally understand why you are frustrated and possibly goes a long way in explaining why you have had to post here
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ilmambo
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March 2010
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Advice needed?, by ilmambo on Aug 8, 2013 11:17:58 GMT 1, In a perfect world with open lines of communication I would personally chalk it up as 'life experience' However.... Being ignored I totally understand why you are frustrated and possibly goes a long way in explaining why you have had to post here
Yeah, well, he even posted yesterday on this thread: urbanartassociation.com/thread/108241/thing-quarterly-tauba-auerbach-edition
but still no answer to my PMs or email. Clearly he decided to ignore me.
In a perfect world with open lines of communication I would personally chalk it up as 'life experience' However.... Being ignored I totally understand why you are frustrated and possibly goes a long way in explaining why you have had to post here Yeah, well, he even posted yesterday on this thread: urbanartassociation.com/thread/108241/thing-quarterly-tauba-auerbach-editionbut still no answer to my PMs or email. Clearly he decided to ignore me.
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phage
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July 2013
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Advice needed?, by phage on Aug 8, 2013 12:37:25 GMT 1, Don't ask for favours and don't do favours for people you don't know? Sorted;) especially not sexual.
Don't ask for favours and don't do favours for people you don't know? Sorted;) especially not sexual.
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craigf
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Advice needed?, by craigf on Aug 8, 2013 14:10:06 GMT 1, Don't ask for favours and don't do favours for people you don't know? Sorted;) especially not sexual.
There was a very odd sexual offer on instagram yesterday that I saw, something written in the sand on a beach. Not sure if anyone took them up on it.....
Don't ask for favours and don't do favours for people you don't know? Sorted;) especially not sexual. There was a very odd sexual offer on instagram yesterday that I saw, something written in the sand on a beach. Not sure if anyone took them up on it.....
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Advice needed?, by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 14:19:26 GMT 1, I'd keep on at him personally. He's been online so he's clearly ignoring you which is just not on.
It's a matter of principle but you have to do what you think's right.
I'd keep on at him personally. He's been online so he's clearly ignoring you which is just not on.
It's a matter of principle but you have to do what you think's right.
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phage
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July 2013
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Advice needed?, by phage on Aug 8, 2013 14:24:32 GMT 1, There was a very odd sexual offer on instagram yesterday that I saw, something written in the sand on a beach. Not sure if anyone took them up on it.....
yes, i saw that too (elsewhere). didn't realise that tit had put it out on instagram though, grrrrrr
There was a very odd sexual offer on instagram yesterday that I saw, something written in the sand on a beach. Not sure if anyone took them up on it..... yes, i saw that too (elsewhere). didn't realise that tit had put it out on instagram though, grrrrrr
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bonesy
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Advice needed?, by bonesy on Aug 11, 2013 16:08:49 GMT 1, This is why I would never offer to help out in something that involves international shipping (sorry). Too many headaches involving shipping, paperwork, customs fees, insurance loopholes, etc. I also won't declare a print less than its worth, I'm not willing to lie when the issue lies between you & your gov policies. I don't know backpackpunk but it looks like he was just trying to help more than anything here. My post office guy told me that after Mexico, Italy has the highest rate of missing parcels in the world. I personally won't ship anything there, even if it benefits me.
This is why I would never offer to help out in something that involves international shipping (sorry). Too many headaches involving shipping, paperwork, customs fees, insurance loopholes, etc. I also won't declare a print less than its worth, I'm not willing to lie when the issue lies between you & your gov policies. I don't know backpackpunk but it looks like he was just trying to help more than anything here. My post office guy told me that after Mexico, Italy has the highest rate of missing parcels in the world. I personally won't ship anything there, even if it benefits me.
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