Sure your right and to coin a phrase as it were

" I'm sure he's a good kid"

Martin was born in 1984 right? so in 2007 he was a kid in my eyes, 20 odd years doesnt make you an adult, and bearing in mind in 2007 he had been painting for what 1 year? i'd say in artistic terms he was still a child.

No disrespect to Martin as i like him, he's a good guy imo and his work is getting better and better.

No axe to grind you were just being pretty rude and patronizing

"Logan Hicks wannabe who was a good kid" sounded very complementary.

especially when you take into account the post you were responding to

I don't post much been member here for a few years though bought some great pieces from and because of some of the threads on this forum. Buy them because I love them. Love the £50 thread because supports new artists bought my first MW because of a recommendation on there. Couple of years ago got into a conversation with a new artist called prof gyro wanted my opinion on his work in return sent me some original pieces they are framed and on my wall they look good and they have a story, that's the fun of collecting and that's what's great about this "scene" medium whatever you want to call it you can get close and personnel if you want to. So my point, I buy because I love, if in 10 years its still on my wall then I bought right and its stood the test of time, and if its worth more than I paid for it that's just a bonus.
One mans art is another mans rubbish and vice the versa........

i dont genuinely get the comparison to logan hicks and whatson i heard and read all the stuff at the time but it was a one off mural.

i have never seen a whatson piece i have thought was close to logan's work and i own pieces from both artists.

he is 30 years old and hardly a kid but being 40 it is the new 30.

martins work is progressing all the time with every new piece he shows me and i love working with him, i know i am biased but i have spoken to logan many times too and he seems nice too.

its all about pictures and what they mean to you no one can predict the future and like shares prices rise and fall maybe its when to sell thats the key.

yes we all look at the investment side of art thats true and hard to avoid when u spending a lot of hard earned cash.

but after years of collecting i have found these have to hang on your walls so just buy what you like and believe in your own tastes. i have sold originals and prints off as my walls changed over the years and found i rarely lost money on anything i sold, usually at least a double my money but i always sold years after release.

You've actually quoted him wrongly tho? 

What he said was 
'He was a Logan Hicks wannabe with some of his early stuff, but seemed like a good kid'


Some of his early stuff was VERY similar to Logan Hicks, check his flickr in 2007/2008 and compare it to Logans work. 

"A good kid" is a term of endearment in my eyes, not patronising. 

Just my opinion, but i think you and otehrs took it for something that wasn't meant. 

I love the work Martin makes, but there are definitely plenty of nods to styles of other artists. You could argue the Hicks style, then Boxi-esk photo realistic spacemen stencils and now the Dolk thing of tagging all over parts of an image. MW sure has the skills, I am now looking forward to some work which feels 100% his own style.

yeah i see it but don't you think you can look at 99% of artists early works and see similarities or nods to other peoples work inc banksy, bast, faile etc lets not even go there with obey, but who cares really unless they are just coping with every picture time and time again.

is roamcouch a logan rip off he does buildings with amazing detail?

artists are all derivative from someone's work, its hard to really do something brand new.

That's what I have always done. My walls reflect my passion, not my investment portfolio. If I was doing this for investment, I've made some pretty bad decisions over the years. I wouldn't trust myself!

I dont know who roamcouch is? I shall have a look to see what he/she does. 

I'm not trying to say its a problem, I was just trying to show that in his early years he did have a logan hicks influenced style, which was what was said earlier in the tread, and people were saying he didnt. 

He also went through a period where he painted in a similar style to Adam Neate, again this is not a problem, just a fact. 

www.flickr.com/photos/martinwhatson/2924100822/

As you say all artists have to develop a style, and there is no problem with taking influences from other artists as you set out to create that style, assuming you do develop a style of your own, and you don't just ride on someone elses coat tails.  

Saying it is hard to do something new is correct, thats why great artists are great artists, and others are just artists. 

Anyway, this is just my opinion.

I shall go and investigate roamcoach and come back to you....

I'm not trying to say its a problem, I was just trying to show that in his early years he did have a logan hicks influenced style, which was what was said earlier in the tread, and people were saying he didnt.

Actually Saint what we said is that we thought saying MW was a LH wannabe was rude and out of order. We can argue over the semantics and whether this piece is similar to that piece. Who influenced L H and who influenced MW but calling some one a wannabe is not very nice end of really in my book. No disrespect either but LH is not exactly top draw famous

As i said above this post, it depends on the way you view the comment and perhaps it could have been worded differently, i think you overreacted to it, but again this is just my opinion and i'm not telling you how you should think. 

I think it is fairly clear who influenced who, but as i have said more than once, that is not a problem as all artists need to develop their own style and very often this includes a period of taking influence from others as style develops. 

i used roamcouch as an example on purpose as you can say all of the above but i still love his last 3 images and i can see all what you are saying but i still love them and bought them.

a artist has to turn the corner at some point and roamcouch did that with emotional rain for me.....

Back to the original topic, I would say...

... an original that I really really loved from this then-emerging artist that not many people were talking about or hyping up, and now it's practically impossible to track down the artist let alone any of his/her art works...