No it was not Nuart probably came out wrong after a few beers last night spoke to a friend yesterday thats all who could not bear the children singing xmas carols as he had seen so much suffering from children that died in the war. He know has ptsd and will be going to somewhere near leatherhead in uk to rest for a few weeks as even now struggling to cope.

No problem. no winners in corporate wars except for the few at the top hey. Was just watching the documentary "Confessions of a corporate hitman" when I saw the post. Recommended viewing

This one was stolen in Bergen a few years ago: 



This Pøbel piece was also stolen in Bergen not so long ago:

It's clear to me which forum members in this thread, and on the forum in general, have invested heavily in Dolk, it's the same three or four Dolk nutters posting their hype and excitment time and time again, speculating about prices and worth and supposed high value private deals that have occurred. Of course there never seems to be any actual proof as it's all 'in the know' secretive secondary market deals where someone knows someone who sold a canvas for something, but what does that matter eh? Who needs any evidence when a small gang of four forum members are there to back each others hype at all times. I'm glad I'm not the only one to have realised this. Personally I'd have thought that if Dolk really was that popular then 4 of his last 5 prints wouldn't be regularly struggling to sell for much over cost on ebay since their release, surly the vast demand would be pushing the market prices up all on formats of work? Then again Pope, leap, evolution, that girl with the gift and crown are far from being meaningful classic images imo, I'd go as far to say that pope and leap are among the weakest images I've seen from any artist in the scene (perhaps the reason why there is a poor secondary market for them). These are not old works, they are recent outputs and very poor ones at that, there is no excuse for such bad work.

I'll await the usual reply from said Dolk nutters that will state 'if this was a banksy show there'd be endless hype, blah blah blah' Well that's just the point, he ain't no Banksy and will never be held in anywhere near the same esteem. I'd be the first to agree that there is far too much back patting and hype regarding Banksy on this forum but at least he has a large back catalogue of fantastic images with social commentary that actually say and mean something, not just seemingly random imagery where dogs have crowns on their faces or the pope is dressed as a tranny. I'm sorry but that image above with the woman in a face pack holding guns is bloody awful and no, if Banksy had done it I really don't think that there would be a score of posters proclaiming it as genius, purely as it's shite, whoever the fook done it.

Have we disagreed on other things then?

It's not hard to notice that along with all the Banksy print hype/bull crap from those that own lots of Banksy prints, there is also a lot of Dolk Hype/bull crap from those that own a lot of Dolk's art work. I'd go as far as saying that the Dolk hype/bull shit is starting to outnumber the Banksy hype/bull shit when you consider the size of both artists portfolios. It's all very transparent to me as I have very little invested in either artist. Anyway, as you were Dolk nutters, looking forward to the first post proclaiming this show an instant sell out.

fortunetely artists don't read our banksyforum often otherwise they have had a depression for a long time
expect banksy of course he has got trauma since last release at least.
 

I bet ya one of the nutters will attest that there was a bidding war to score that canvas mate.

There are without doubt a few TDN who are visible. They alone can't buy all the secondary market prints though so I'd suspect the market has a little more depth than this forum......

.. backwards this is   Strettunklodeht

swedish for summat is it?.

So who here is going to the show then?

you were quite right to highlight the inaccuracy in my post around the terms primary and secondary. You're quite right Grenade Lovers has been a long time sold out from source which was hmp. So where I've written primary I actually mean private 'closed' secondary deals ie. those which have no proof other than 'say so'. Whilst I understand this happens, as I'm sure you're aware too it is quite a leap from what one rich collector is willing to spend to a what the market would dictate given the option. I would refer you to the few occasions where dolk pieces have gone to auction and haven't fared particularly well as possibly a better barometer.

On another note, my posts on this subject aren't to pour scorn on Dolk, i do in fact like a lot of his work, I just don't appreciate people heating up a market place based on self interest rather than cold hard facts.

With regards to your mention of Dolks pdf I've just looked through it again there's at least 9 pieces quoted as 2013 and relatively new in nature (I've been following Dolk's work since 2006 so have a pretty good appreciation of his catalogue) so I'd be somewhat surprised if there was a number of pieces I've not seen, other than as you say installations...

Wasn't that the case with Banksy, you could still buy Toxic Mary, Love Rate and Napalm at source for £74.99 when the others were long gone and changing hands for 10 times this. Rather than bemoan the fact that all his images aren't changing hands for four figure sums (this will obviously continue), maybe celebrate the fact that people can still pick up a sold out print for much much less. These entry level prints generally lead to more people developing an interest in the scene and art in general.

I'm not saying they don't occur, just that the validity of them in the wider market should be questioned