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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by gatecrasher on Aug 23, 2013 23:31:21 GMT 1, Dry my eyes? More like MW, please find a gallery that will actually drop a print after they said they would. Seriously WTF who does that?
Ive emailed GP on several occasions and had a reply straight away, they also invited me to come to their "gallery" and have a look round. I am not a "favoured" customer of theirs I might add.
Perhaps if you had emailed them and shown some interest in the release and had some kind of relationship with them instead of expecting them to be like you local Sainsbury's Express and have exactly what you want, when you want it, they may have offered you one. Hey shelf stacker !! where's the medium white sliced Martin Whatson print stacked ? FFS !! You have none in stock !! I'm taking my business to Asda from now on !!
My last post on this because the brandy is kicking in and I feel the little Troll on my left shoulder whispering in my ear.
Dry my eyes? More like MW, please find a gallery that will actually drop a print after they said they would. Seriously WTF who does that? Ive emailed GP on several occasions and had a reply straight away, they also invited me to come to their "gallery" and have a look round. I am not a "favoured" customer of theirs I might add. Perhaps if you had emailed them and shown some interest in the release and had some kind of relationship with them instead of expecting them to be like you local Sainsbury's Express and have exactly what you want, when you want it, they may have offered you one. Hey shelf stacker !! where's the medium white sliced Martin Whatson print stacked ? FFS !! You have none in stock !! I'm taking my business to Asda from now on !! My last post on this because the brandy is kicking in and I feel the little Troll on my left shoulder whispering in my ear. |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 23:37:36 GMT 1, ... 'ave you been on the sauce again naughty nige?  Just a galss, still sober though just. If you say a word over and over and over and over it sounds funny!, last i did was the word MIRROR, i was in a heap giggling after saying it, course thats used up loads of words off my life but was worth the fun, i hardly made it out the post office!.
... 'ave you been on the sauce again naughty nige? Just a galss, still sober though just. If you say a word over and over and over and over it sounds funny!, last i did was the word MIRROR, i was in a heap giggling after saying it, course thats used up loads of words off my life but was worth the fun, i hardly made it out the post office!. "just a galss" your cyber-slurring Naughty. |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 23:39:06 GMT 1, Ha i know, feel a bit sick as i put too much pate on me crackers as well, im off to beddybyes.
Nightynight everyone, be good.
Ha i know, feel a bit sick as i put too much pate on me crackers as well, im off to beddybyes.
Nightynight everyone, be good.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 23:40:07 GMT 1, I've missed out on plenty of drops before, it's annoying but there you go. I've been there hours F5ing and have missed out or hit to key that 1/1000th of a second too slow!
At the end of the day it's a piece of paper with a picture printed on it - that's all. I'm just as guilty as anyone by saying to myself 'I must have this print' but sometimes we all need to get things in perspective as nobody 'needs' a print; it's just nice to have.
All the complaining in the world won't change that fact that you missed out so just let it go people.
I've missed out on plenty of drops before, it's annoying but there you go. I've been there hours F5ing and have missed out or hit to key that 1/1000th of a second too slow!
At the end of the day it's a piece of paper with a picture printed on it - that's all. I'm just as guilty as anyone by saying to myself 'I must have this print' but sometimes we all need to get things in perspective as nobody 'needs' a print; it's just nice to have.
All the complaining in the world won't change that fact that you missed out so just let it go people.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by mrunholy on Aug 23, 2013 23:41:36 GMT 1, Gatecrasher come on now buddy. As I already stated, GP came on here and said they were being sold online dude. What are you expecting me to do after that info? Continue to contact them and see if the will sell one to me before they said they would sell them online? Your argument makes no sense.
Gatecrasher come on now buddy. As I already stated, GP came on here and said they were being sold online dude. What are you expecting me to do after that info? Continue to contact them and see if the will sell one to me before they said they would sell them online? Your argument makes no sense.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by mrunholy on Aug 23, 2013 23:43:32 GMT 1, And for the record I emailed GP right after the blue never showed up like they said it would and guess what? NO REPLY.
And for the record I emailed GP right after the blue never showed up like they said it would and guess what? NO REPLY.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 23:46:40 GMT 1, Ok I have 2 questions.
What so you want to achieve by these posts of yours about GP?
What would you like us to do?
Ok I have 2 questions.
What so you want to achieve by these posts of yours about GP?
What would you like us to do?
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by mrunholy on Aug 23, 2013 23:51:03 GMT 1, I feel like a broken record.
I feel like a broken record.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by mrunholy on Aug 23, 2013 23:52:20 GMT 1, What do I want to achieve? How about letting everyone know what kind of BS business practices they are trying to pull.
What do I want to achieve? How about letting everyone know what kind of BS business practices they are trying to pull.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by mrunholy on Aug 23, 2013 23:56:02 GMT 1, Hey guys I got a print coming up next week and it will be AVAILABLE but will probably sell them privately before hand then come on HOURS later after the drop and let you know I had already sold those to 'good' customers.
Uhhhh....
Hey guys I got a print coming up next week and it will be AVAILABLE but will probably sell them privately before hand then come on HOURS later after the drop and let you know I had already sold those to 'good' customers.
Uhhhh....
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 23:57:42 GMT 1, Ok I have 2 questions. What so you want to achieve by these posts of yours about GP? What would you like us to do?
Not taking sides, but where can you vent, if not the art forum? Where possibly the only other people on the planet may give a crap.
Come on we're all in the same boat. <well mine might be quite a bit smaller than most on here> 
Ok I have 2 questions. What so you want to achieve by these posts of yours about GP? What would you like us to do? Not taking sides, but where can you vent, if not the art forum? Where possibly the only other people on the planet may give a crap. Come on we're all in the same boat. <well mine might be quite a bit smaller than most on here> |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 23:57:51 GMT 1, Ok I have 2 questions. What so you want to achieve by these posts of yours about GP? What would you like us to do? 1. He's expressing his anger at an online poster shop for announcing they'd be selling a poster online at a certain time and date, only to discover at a later time and date that they'd sold them all their posters to their mum beforehand instead. 2. I can't see where he asked you or anybody else to do anything about it at all.
Ok firstly I think you should let him answer himself as I don't think he needs a spokesman, but thanks anyway.
I wasn't having a go mrunholy. If you're just letting off steam then fair enough but I just think you'll be doing the opposite and winding yourself up by these posts.
Yes it's annoying and I'm sure you have a point but you can't change what's happened.
Ok I have 2 questions. What so you want to achieve by these posts of yours about GP? What would you like us to do? 1. He's expressing his anger at an online poster shop for announcing they'd be selling a poster online at a certain time and date, only to discover at a later time and date that they'd sold them all their posters to their mum beforehand instead. 2. I can't see where he asked you or anybody else to do anything about it at all. Ok firstly I think you should let him answer himself as I don't think he needs a spokesman, but thanks anyway. I wasn't having a go mrunholy. If you're just letting off steam then fair enough but I just think you'll be doing the opposite and winding yourself up by these posts. Yes it's annoying and I'm sure you have a point but you can't change what's happened. |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 0:00:18 GMT 1, Its that time of the month innit pmt time or print martins totallygone i know you feel a bit blue after you didnt get the blue but it aint end of world.
Its that time of the month innit pmt time or print martins totallygone i know you feel a bit blue after you didnt get the blue but it aint end of world.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by mrunholy on Aug 24, 2013 0:04:03 GMT 1, I can handle missing a drop. The way this drop went down I have every right to complain.
I can handle missing a drop. The way this drop went down I have every right to complain.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 0:13:34 GMT 1, Wrong actually, they both have solid handstyles. Dolk's tagged works are called "toy" for a reason. Though no head, he can certainly paint freehand I'm happy to be proved wrong, so show me some examples of both. All I have to go on is the 'tagging' in the lifestyle imagery they've been selling. And let's not forget Dolk's dire attempts at hand-finishing prints with a can. Makes MBW look like Mode 2.
Wrong actually, they both have solid handstyles. Dolk's tagged works are called "toy" for a reason. Though no head, he can certainly paint freehand I'm happy to be proved wrong, so show me some examples of both. All I have to go on is the 'tagging' in the lifestyle imagery they've been selling. And let's not forget Dolk's dire attempts at hand-finishing prints with a can. Makes MBW look like Mode 2. I think what Nuart was saying that "toy" was a self deprecating joke. In old school graff a toy is a novice tagger, a guy that doesn't know what he is doing. |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by anbesivam1 on Aug 24, 2013 0:16:11 GMT 1, I can handle missing a drop. The way this drop went down I have every right to complain.
All galleries reward good clients...POW is the biggest proponent of this approach when it comes to print drops.
I can handle missing a drop. The way this drop went down I have every right to complain. I think the biggest grievance today for true collectors is trying to beat the 'bots' buying up releases in a blink of an eye...pretty much all shep, jeremy geddes, invader, pow drops etc.. All galleries reward good clients...POW is the biggest proponent of this approach when it comes to print drops. |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 0:43:59 GMT 1, Oh really? Well they both speak very highly of YOUR artwork. I don't see the point of your post, if you don't like MW or Dolks work then why bother to come on here to tell us you think they have no talent? Where did I say I "didn't like MW or Dolk's work"? Where did I say I think "they have no talent"? You really are a tiresome little troll.
You're an idiot. If you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you is just trolling then you won't get very far on this forum.
Oh really? Well they both speak very highly of YOUR artwork. I don't see the point of your post, if you don't like MW or Dolks work then why bother to come on here to tell us you think they have no talent? Where did I say I "didn't like MW or Dolk's work"? Where did I say I think "they have no talent"? You really are a tiresome little troll. You're an idiot. If you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you is just trolling then you won't get very far on this forum. |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 1:03:40 GMT 1, He didnt say they didnt have talent he said they dont have any handstyles and tagging involves handstyles not just the act of making a random mark to give the impression of a tag. This is a fair point. They dont necessarily tag just make marks to enhance their image. Jose Parla tags retna does actual tags of names. What I think he is saying is respect the idea of a real tag and the true idea of graffiti. I dont know their reason for trying to make it look like a tag but I can guess it has something to do them wanting a more graffiti feel. I wont bash them even though I feel that anyone that does try to make a tag in art should have some sort of connection to actually tagging in their history. But as we know that is not the case and in most cases tags or spraypaint sprays are now used as decoration and color thus dillutiing the real power of a handstyle. To each their own but I think he was trying to say this in a more blunt way. Aesthetically I see that a tag or spray adds texture and a nice contrast to the stencil but I do wish more artists would not use it as just a design element. I think its important to respect the idea and power of a tag or fatcap spray. This isnt as bad as realists copying actual graffiti and calling it Urban but it does leave a bad tast in the mouths of actual writers that are proud of years developing their tag and gesture. Word.
No serious artist I know or have ever known would add elements to a painting to be seen as "cool" or "urban". Artists simply don't work like that. Designers maybe, but not artists. Same for the three stencil artists currently using it in their work. They live in cities. They've been exposed to graffiti and tagging since birth and move in a culture where anything is fair game, remixed, mashed up and spun back out. I guarantee it's the younger crowd buying this and the older heads bemoaning it. Also you have the likes of HowNosm, Saber and many other respected writers utilising stencils, same as stencil artists are utilising freehand graffiti. It's just a tool, a means to an end. Graffiti has become as symbolic to urban as a Greek column (or MW statues) has to classical. They're simply motifs that artists use. Whatson seems to employ them as a form of urban camouflage, Dolk uses them in a purer vandalism way..hence the series being called toy. Both seem to employ them as an attack on conservative values and objects and both do have the potential to make you think about contemporary urban life, you have to see beyond the "style". Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But in general, I think it's an interesting development.
He didnt say they didnt have talent he said they dont have any handstyles and tagging involves handstyles not just the act of making a random mark to give the impression of a tag. This is a fair point. They dont necessarily tag just make marks to enhance their image. Jose Parla tags retna does actual tags of names. What I think he is saying is respect the idea of a real tag and the true idea of graffiti. I dont know their reason for trying to make it look like a tag but I can guess it has something to do them wanting a more graffiti feel. I wont bash them even though I feel that anyone that does try to make a tag in art should have some sort of connection to actually tagging in their history. But as we know that is not the case and in most cases tags or spraypaint sprays are now used as decoration and color thus dillutiing the real power of a handstyle. To each their own but I think he was trying to say this in a more blunt way. Aesthetically I see that a tag or spray adds texture and a nice contrast to the stencil but I do wish more artists would not use it as just a design element. I think its important to respect the idea and power of a tag or fatcap spray. This isnt as bad as realists copying actual graffiti and calling it Urban but it does leave a bad tast in the mouths of actual writers that are proud of years developing their tag and gesture. Word. I don't think young artists think like this anymore. It's a real old school attitude. Realist painters who incorporate tagging and graffiti into urban cityscapes do so because it's what they see day in and day out. It's as natural as a country water colourist painting trees. You literally can't paint a classical Athens scene without adding throwups and tags. They paint what they see. That's it. No serious artist I know or have ever known would add elements to a painting to be seen as "cool" or "urban". Artists simply don't work like that. Designers maybe, but not artists. Same for the three stencil artists currently using it in their work. They live in cities. They've been exposed to graffiti and tagging since birth and move in a culture where anything is fair game, remixed, mashed up and spun back out. I guarantee it's the younger crowd buying this and the older heads bemoaning it. Also you have the likes of HowNosm, Saber and many other respected writers utilising stencils, same as stencil artists are utilising freehand graffiti. It's just a tool, a means to an end. Graffiti has become as symbolic to urban as a Greek column (or MW statues) has to classical. They're simply motifs that artists use. Whatson seems to employ them as a form of urban camouflage, Dolk uses them in a purer vandalism way..hence the series being called toy. Both seem to employ them as an attack on conservative values and objects and both do have the potential to make you think about contemporary urban life, you have to see beyond the "style". Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But in general, I think it's an interesting development. |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 1:05:47 GMT 1, You're an idiot. If you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you is just trolling then you won't get very far on this forum. I rest my case. Your lack of self awareness and subsequent hypocrisy is astonishing.
Ahhh the old 'I rest my case' line.
Always seems to get said by someone when they realise they've lost the argument and have nothing more to say.
If you wind your neck in a bit and learn to accept criticism you could turn out alright....although maybe not!
You're an idiot. If you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you is just trolling then you won't get very far on this forum. I rest my case. Your lack of self awareness and subsequent hypocrisy is astonishing. Ahhh the old 'I rest my case' line. Always seems to get said by someone when they realise they've lost the argument and have nothing more to say. If you wind your neck in a bit and learn to accept criticism you could turn out alright....although maybe not! |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by graffuturism on Aug 24, 2013 1:44:26 GMT 1, I don't think young artists think like this anymore. It's a real old school attitude. Realist painters who incorporate tagging and graffiti into urban cityscapes do so because it's what they see day in and day out. It's as natural as a country water colourist painting trees. You literally can't paint a classical Athens scene without adding throwups and tags. They paint what they see. That's it. No serious artist I know or have ever known would add elements to a painting to be seen as "cool" or "urban". Artists simply don't work like that. Designers maybe, but not artists. Same for the three stencil artists currently using it in their work. They live in cities. They've been exposed to graffiti and tagging since birth and move in a culture where anything is fair game, remixed, mashed up and spun back out. I guarantee it's the younger crowd buying this and the older heads bemoaning it. Also you have the likes of HowNosm, Saber and many other respected writers utilising stencils, same as stencil artists are utilising freehand graffiti. It's just a tool, a means to an end. Graffiti has become as symbolic to urban as a Greek column (or MW statues) has to classical. They're simply motifs that artists use. Whatson seems to employ them as a form of urban camouflage, Dolk uses them in a purer vandalism way..hence the series being called toy. Both seem to employ them as an attack on conservative values and objects and both do have the potential to make you think about contemporary urban life, you have to see beyond the "style". Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But in general, I think it's an interesting development.
Thats a valid point. After thinking this over Although I might not like it you have to respect any form of creativity and influence. We are all inspired by other art forms past and present. I guess in the end most these artists are very young in their career who knows where everyone will end up. If they take something from graffiti so be it. Rather a peer like street art than some other artist with no real understanding of any urban art.
I don't think young artists think like this anymore. It's a real old school attitude. Realist painters who incorporate tagging and graffiti into urban cityscapes do so because it's what they see day in and day out. It's as natural as a country water colourist painting trees. You literally can't paint a classical Athens scene without adding throwups and tags. They paint what they see. That's it. No serious artist I know or have ever known would add elements to a painting to be seen as "cool" or "urban". Artists simply don't work like that. Designers maybe, but not artists. Same for the three stencil artists currently using it in their work. They live in cities. They've been exposed to graffiti and tagging since birth and move in a culture where anything is fair game, remixed, mashed up and spun back out. I guarantee it's the younger crowd buying this and the older heads bemoaning it. Also you have the likes of HowNosm, Saber and many other respected writers utilising stencils, same as stencil artists are utilising freehand graffiti. It's just a tool, a means to an end. Graffiti has become as symbolic to urban as a Greek column (or MW statues) has to classical. They're simply motifs that artists use. Whatson seems to employ them as a form of urban camouflage, Dolk uses them in a purer vandalism way..hence the series being called toy. Both seem to employ them as an attack on conservative values and objects and both do have the potential to make you think about contemporary urban life, you have to see beyond the "style". Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But in general, I think it's an interesting development. Thats a valid point. After thinking this over Although I might not like it you have to respect any form of creativity and influence. We are all inspired by other art forms past and present. I guess in the end most these artists are very young in their career who knows where everyone will end up. If they take something from graffiti so be it. Rather a peer like street art than some other artist with no real understanding of any urban art. |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Graffiti Prints on Aug 27, 2013 17:52:35 GMT 1, hi
half these went out today and half tomorrow so should be with uk buyers by thursday..
hi
half these went out today and half tomorrow so should be with uk buyers by thursday..
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by morgan on Aug 27, 2013 19:43:54 GMT 1, sooo I just know someone is feeling generous and wants to hook up a n00b with his first Whatson print for cost/shipping? My #1 , please help me or ping me if you see it anywhere, thanks in advance!
Worth a shot...
sooo I just know someone is feeling generous and wants to hook up a n00b with his first Whatson print for cost/shipping? My #1 , please help me or ping me if you see it anywhere, thanks in advance!
Worth a shot...
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by JungleJim on Aug 27, 2013 20:27:58 GMT 1, Are tracking numbers going to be sent out?
Are tracking numbers going to be sent out?
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Graffiti Prints on Aug 27, 2013 21:19:12 GMT 1, Are tracking numbers going to be sent out?
On worldwide sales wendnesday and Thursday
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Layaway Days Art Blog on Aug 27, 2013 21:21:13 GMT 1, Is this the same for the Roamcouch. I got both MW and Roamcouch and don't have any tracking numbers. Tried emailing your site and didn't get a response.
Is this the same for the Roamcouch. I got both MW and Roamcouch and don't have any tracking numbers. Tried emailing your site and didn't get a response.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by JungleJim on Aug 27, 2013 21:28:29 GMT 1, Are tracking numbers going to be sent out? On worldwide sales wendnesday and Thursday
Forgive me if I'm being thick, does that mean yes there are tracking numbers?
Or they are just arriving Wednesday or Thursday.
How are they being sent? Courier or royal mail?
I have no faith in my postman which I why I ask... Thanks
Are tracking numbers going to be sent out? On worldwide sales wendnesday and Thursday Forgive me if I'm being thick, does that mean yes there are tracking numbers? Or they are just arriving Wednesday or Thursday. How are they being sent? Courier or royal mail? I have no faith in my postman which I why I ask... Thanks |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by tab1 on Aug 27, 2013 21:56:51 GMT 1, Are tracking numbers going to be sent out?
Usually special delivery and tracking numbers are usually updated to your PayPal account but usually after the print arrives though  ?
Rest assured I've had 4 seperate diliveries arrive with out issues
Are tracking numbers going to be sent out? Usually special delivery and tracking numbers are usually updated to your PayPal account but usually after the print arrives though ? Rest assured I've had 4 seperate diliveries arrive with out issues |
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Graffiti Prints on Aug 27, 2013 22:57:38 GMT 1, All UK sent special delivery next day
so I posted half today and half tomorrow so they should be there at Thursday at the latest or the dreaded red slip saying your postman does not knock loud enough!
All worldwide sent international tracked and I will send tracking numbers tomorrow and Thursday after I pick them up.
I take the tubes in all done and pay next day hence I get tracking numbers the next day when the UK tubes are being delivered.
All UK sent special delivery next day
so I posted half today and half tomorrow so they should be there at Thursday at the latest or the dreaded red slip saying your postman does not knock loud enough!
All worldwide sent international tracked and I will send tracking numbers tomorrow and Thursday after I pick them up.
I take the tubes in all done and pay next day hence I get tracking numbers the next day when the UK tubes are being delivered.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by BrotherBern on Aug 28, 2013 9:59:40 GMT 1, My Mrs has just signed for mine. The system is working so far GP.
My Mrs has just signed for mine. The system is working so far GP.
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Martin Whatson • Angel Print, by Bumkinonaboat on Aug 28, 2013 16:11:17 GMT 1, Received mine today, looks amazing in the flesh!
Received mine today, looks amazing in the flesh!
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