Syria, by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 10:05:32 GMT 1,

Sept 3, 2013 0:01:05 GMT 1 dreadnatty said:

Sept 2, 2013 9:43:37 GMT 1 misterx said:

"I agree that any chemical attack, particularly one that kills civilians, is horrible and horrendous. All deaths in war and violence are terrible and should be condemned. But why are a few hundred killed by chemical attack any worse or more deserving of US bombs than the 100,000 already killed in the conflict? Why do these few hundred allegedly killed by Assad count any more than the estimated 1,000 Christians in Syria killed by US allies on the other side? Why is it any worse to be killed by poison gas than to have your head chopped off by the US allied radical Islamists, as has happened to a number of Christian priests and bishops in Syria?

For that matter, why are the few hundred civilians killed in Syria by a chemical weapon any worse than the 2000-3000 who have been killed by Obama's drone strikes in Pakistan? Does it really make a difference whether a civilian is killed by poison gas or by drone missile or dull knife?"


Ron Paul yesterday.Right on the money, yet these questions are not being asked in the mainstream media;all I hear are the beating of War Drums.

Whats your stance on these comments dreadnatty? Don't hear you getting all flustered when US drones kill  innocent civilians 11,000km's away in Afghan/Pakistan, so wondered why you feel so strongly about Syria?

Could it be your falling hook, line and sinker for the rhetoric?

First of all, im NOT for going to war in Syria, at this stage it would seems pointless - Assad falls and most probably in comes Al Qaida. Bad news for the common people either way. Ask me 30 months ago when the opposition was not Al Qaida backed and i might have a different answer. Assad and the Alawite minority (12%)have been oppressing the majority Sunnis (and Christians) for decades - I wouldve been for getting rid of Assad backed regime then but alas it is too late. I like most people are against war/military action in most situations but there are times when it is necessary. As for the Drone policy - I am also against this for 99% of the time as (1)they kill innocents and (2)one cannot gather intelligence from dead terrorists. Perhaps this is why US intelligence and many others are often wrong - they dont have any people too interrogate if they are all killed.
Many in here are completely anti-war. I am not. IMO there are times when the only way to solve problem is miliatary action(WW2 as an example). Im not one for isolationism. How does this help anybody? Just look at Africa - its a complete mess. Just as many in here are completely anti-right, they site many far left/conspiracy websites/articles/videos like they are any different from the far right. Far Left IMO is just as bad as far right to me yet in here it seems like gospel.
I realize that im in a very small minority in the forum and I hope I answered your question.

Excellent post dreadnatty.
Want to say first off that I am not far left or right.
I just started this thread to try and help halt the immediate threat of military action against Syria because I fear for the Syrian people.Not the Syrian Government.
I do lean more to the left than most though it seems (though this number does seem to be growing) and I believe the politics of the west is slowly but surely moving more towards the right which I do not see as a good thing for common people or indeed the planet that these common people live on.
I believe in progressive politics.Learning from mistakes and history.
The west seems to be a bit stuck at the moment and not addressing the causes of massive problems be they political, economical or environmental.
I know what you mean about military action and WW2 but at least , I think, we pretty much agree that Syria is not one of these times.
I am not anti American and I just wish that the Government of America would set a good example for democratic progress.
That's why I am so proud of the UK's stance on Syria at the moment.
I would truly love to see massive pre-emptive diplomatic strikes on a lot countries in the Middle East.
What did you mean about isolationism and Africa?

Sept 3, 2013 0:01:05 GMT 1 dreadnatty said:

Sept 2, 2013 9:43:37 GMT 1 misterx said:

"I agree that any chemical attack, particularly one that kills civilians, is horrible and horrendous. All deaths in war and violence are terrible and should be condemned. But why are a few hundred killed by chemical attack any worse or more deserving of US bombs than the 100,000 already killed in the conflict? Why do these few hundred allegedly killed by Assad count any more than the estimated 1,000 Christians in Syria killed by US allies on the other side? Why is it any worse to be killed by poison gas than to have your head chopped off by the US allied radical Islamists, as has happened to a number of Christian priests and bishops in Syria?

For that matter, why are the few hundred civilians killed in Syria by a chemical weapon any worse than the 2000-3000 who have been killed by Obama's drone strikes in Pakistan? Does it really make a difference whether a civilian is killed by poison gas or by drone missile or dull knife?"


Ron Paul yesterday.Right on the money, yet these questions are not being asked in the mainstream media;all I hear are the beating of War Drums.

Whats your stance on these comments dreadnatty? Don't hear you getting all flustered when US drones kill  innocent civilians 11,000km's away in Afghan/Pakistan, so wondered why you feel so strongly about Syria?

Could it be your falling hook, line and sinker for the rhetoric?

First of all, im NOT for going to war in Syria, at this stage it would seems pointless - Assad falls and most probably in comes Al Qaida. Bad news for the common people either way. Ask me 30 months ago when the opposition was not Al Qaida backed and i might have a different answer. Assad and the Alawite minority (12%)have been oppressing the majority Sunnis (and Christians) for decades - I wouldve been for getting rid of Assad backed regime then but alas it is too late. I like most people are against war/military action in most situations but there are times when it is necessary. As for the Drone policy - I am also against this for 99% of the time as (1)they kill innocents and (2)one cannot gather intelligence from dead terrorists. Perhaps this is why US intelligence and many others are often wrong - they dont have any people too interrogate if they are all killed.
Many in here are completely anti-war. I am not. IMO there are times when the only way to solve problem is miliatary action(WW2 as an example). Im not one for isolationism. How does this help anybody? Just look at Africa - its a complete mess. Just as many in here are completely anti-right, they site many far left/conspiracy websites/articles/videos like they are any different from the far right. Far Left IMO is just as bad as far right to me yet in here it seems like gospel.
I realize that im in a very small minority in the forum and I hope I answered your question.

Excellent post dreadnatty.
Want to say first off that I am not far left or right.
I just started this thread to try and help halt the immediate threat of military action against Syria because I fear for the Syrian people.Not the Syrian Government.
I do lean more to the left than most though it seems (though this number does seem to be growing) and I believe the politics of the west is slowly but surely moving more towards the right which I do not see as a good thing for common people or indeed the planet that these common people live on.
I believe in progressive politics.Learning from mistakes and history.
The west seems to be a bit stuck at the moment and not addressing the causes of massive problems be they political, economical or environmental.
I know what you mean about military action and WW2 but at least , I think, we pretty much agree that Syria is not one of these times.
I am not anti American and I just wish that the Government of America would set a good example for democratic progress.
That's why I am so proud of the UK's stance on Syria at the moment.
I would truly love to see massive pre-emptive diplomatic strikes on a lot countries in the Middle East.
What did you mean about isolationism and Africa?