drugfree
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by drugfree on Jan 29, 2014 19:37:46 GMT 1, My invoice is below 50 and mine still says "payment accepted". I'm guessing they're just packing them up and updating them as they go (hopefully). Let me know if you hear anything.
Yea that's what I am thinking(hoping) too. i'll keep you posted on the updates.
My invoice is below 50 and mine still says "payment accepted". I'm guessing they're just packing them up and updating them as they go (hopefully). Let me know if you hear anything. Yea that's what I am thinking(hoping) too. i'll keep you posted on the updates.
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Petrusino
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Petrusino on Jan 29, 2014 19:46:27 GMT 1, I always find it funny that street art, art that was "born on the streets." Democratic art, often anti-consumerist and made for "everyone" is actually just a scene filled with hundreds of thousands of rabid fans literally obsessed with owning limited editions for their interior walls. Whose lives somehow seem incomplete without a signed print they can own and consume and covet and flip for something better next year. Fans who continually defend the high prices demanded for these street art prints, whose editions generally trade at higher premiums than their contemporary artist counterparts. Don't blame 99 prints or os gemeos for manufacturing hype. They don't need to do that because all of you people have done it for them. It's the 10,000 posts on the Banksy forum and other forums that is the hype. It's all so ironic. Its not a democratic art at all it never has been, its an artform where artists do what they want on the streets without asking for permission I dont see the democracy in that at all. I can see graffiti and street art being more socialist than democratic due to the non-consumerist aspect of street work as you stated. You are are correct the fans do have an effect on the art in a negative way at times and collecting art has turned into whole genre of its own within street art. Its a biproduct of our societies and people wanting a part of something that is given freely in most cases. The difference between the twins and alot of other artists this forum caters to is that Os Gemeos are authentic representations of the real power of the artform, and most of the other hyped artists are products of the market and their work exists only because forums like this exist. You dont see those artists painting around the world still for free, giving donating shows to small galleries that helped them along the way. You see edition after edition from the same artists, and this feeds the craze you talk about. Yet when a true representative of our culture like the twins makes something available to the fans of course the frenzy will consume it as it does much lesser artists. To me judging them based on this print release alone is unfair, and the defending the value atleast in my case is trying to help people get past all the bulls**t that is being posted on here. I didnt buy one i wasn't lucky enough to and I wont buy one on the secondary market, I am ok with that. Os Gemeos has 200K instagram followers not because they sell prints and art but because they have touched a huge demographic, painted cities for the past 2 decades and imprinted themselves on the world. You dont think that 99 of those 200K fans can afford a 4K print? I dont see the problem with any hype that comes there way, only because they arent attention whores that feed off this hype and need to always be in the spotlight. They have found a balance in there work street/gallery and it works for them. I am sure someone mentioned making a print at a studio Picasso printed at and it sounded intriguing. One of the major reasons I coveted this print was because this print making process is also artistic in nature and each print is an extension of their art not just a reproduction. The guy that keeps bring up Koons is clueless I wont restate what I have stated about OG vs contemporary counterparts, I will say that there is no comparison to this print and a Archival Giclee photograph even if a smaller edition from the worlds highest paid artist. You are basically paying for his signature IMO and there is no soul in that image, OG hands are all over this print and there mark has been left on it in more way that just a reproduction. Secondly we wouldn't even be having this conversation if the price was printed at 1k because all friends and family would have all gotten them because they could afford it. 4k was a lot of money for anyone and not only did it take out some of the speculation it also took out the homey discount aspect of a print run that can happen. I am still taken back by some of these posts, I just have to shake my head. I Will Say That there is no comparison to this print and another print from the twins; Because they do not have made others โโin the past; they have made only a print. price 4k.. It reminds me, even if from afar, the situation of Aryz. Aryz is a super talented artist, as long as people could not find his prints around, everyone wanted one. Now that he has produced a couple of prints in the last few months his print has remained unsold at "Studio Cromie" . We will see what will happen with the next release of the twins which are also very close to Aryz... For now there is nothing to say. Enjoy your print. I'm tired of this thread. Peace and Love
I always find it funny that street art, art that was "born on the streets." Democratic art, often anti-consumerist and made for "everyone" is actually just a scene filled with hundreds of thousands of rabid fans literally obsessed with owning limited editions for their interior walls. Whose lives somehow seem incomplete without a signed print they can own and consume and covet and flip for something better next year. Fans who continually defend the high prices demanded for these street art prints, whose editions generally trade at higher premiums than their contemporary artist counterparts. Don't blame 99 prints or os gemeos for manufacturing hype. They don't need to do that because all of you people have done it for them. It's the 10,000 posts on the Banksy forum and other forums that is the hype. It's all so ironic. Its not a democratic art at all it never has been, its an artform where artists do what they want on the streets without asking for permission I dont see the democracy in that at all. I can see graffiti and street art being more socialist than democratic due to the non-consumerist aspect of street work as you stated. You are are correct the fans do have an effect on the art in a negative way at times and collecting art has turned into whole genre of its own within street art. Its a biproduct of our societies and people wanting a part of something that is given freely in most cases. The difference between the twins and alot of other artists this forum caters to is that Os Gemeos are authentic representations of the real power of the artform, and most of the other hyped artists are products of the market and their work exists only because forums like this exist. You dont see those artists painting around the world still for free, giving donating shows to small galleries that helped them along the way. You see edition after edition from the same artists, and this feeds the craze you talk about. Yet when a true representative of our culture like the twins makes something available to the fans of course the frenzy will consume it as it does much lesser artists. To me judging them based on this print release alone is unfair, and the defending the value atleast in my case is trying to help people get past all the bulls**t that is being posted on here. I didnt buy one i wasn't lucky enough to and I wont buy one on the secondary market, I am ok with that. Os Gemeos has 200K instagram followers not because they sell prints and art but because they have touched a huge demographic, painted cities for the past 2 decades and imprinted themselves on the world. You dont think that 99 of those 200K fans can afford a 4K print? I dont see the problem with any hype that comes there way, only because they arent attention whores that feed off this hype and need to always be in the spotlight. They have found a balance in there work street/gallery and it works for them. I am sure someone mentioned making a print at a studio Picasso printed at and it sounded intriguing. One of the major reasons I coveted this print was because this print making process is also artistic in nature and each print is an extension of their art not just a reproduction. The guy that keeps bring up Koons is clueless I wont restate what I have stated about OG vs contemporary counterparts, I will say that there is no comparison to this print and a Archival Giclee photograph even if a smaller edition from the worlds highest paid artist. You are basically paying for his signature IMO and there is no soul in that image, OG hands are all over this print and there mark has been left on it in more way that just a reproduction. Secondly we wouldn't even be having this conversation if the price was printed at 1k because all friends and family would have all gotten them because they could afford it. 4k was a lot of money for anyone and not only did it take out some of the speculation it also took out the homey discount aspect of a print run that can happen. I am still taken back by some of these posts, I just have to shake my head. I Will Say That there is no comparison to this print and another print from the twins; Because they do not have made others โโin the past; they have made only a print. price 4k.. It reminds me, even if from afar, the situation of Aryz. Aryz is a super talented artist, as long as people could not find his prints around, everyone wanted one. Now that he has produced a couple of prints in the last few months his print has remained unsold at "Studio Cromie" . We will see what will happen with the next release of the twins which are also very close to Aryz... For now there is nothing to say. Enjoy your print. I'm tired of this thread. Peace and Love
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Hairbland
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Hairbland on Jan 29, 2014 19:57:18 GMT 1, I always find it funny that street art, art that was "born on the streets." Democratic art, often anti-consumerist and made for "everyone" is actually just a scene filled with hundreds of thousands of rabid fans literally obsessed with owning limited editions for their interior walls. Whose lives somehow seem incomplete without a signed print they can own and consume and covet and flip for something better next year. Fans who continually defend the high prices demanded for these street art prints, whose editions generally trade at higher premiums than their contemporary artist counterparts. Don't blame 99 prints or os gemeos for manufacturing hype. They don't need to do that because all of you people have done it for them. It's the 10,000 posts on the Banksy forum and other forums that is the hype. It's all so ironic. Its not a democratic art at all it never has been, its an artform where artists do what they want on the streets without asking for permission I dont see the democracy in that at all. I can see graffiti and street art being more socialist than democratic due to the non-consumerist aspect of street work as you stated. You are are correct the fans do have an effect on the art in a negative way at times and collecting art has turned into whole genre of its own within street art. Its a biproduct of our societies and people wanting a part of something that is given freely in most cases. The difference between the twins and alot of other artists this forum caters to is that Os Gemeos are authentic representations of the real power of the artform, and most of the other hyped artists are products of the market and their work exists only because forums like this exist. You dont see those artists painting around the world still for free, giving donating shows to small galleries that helped them along the way. You see edition after edition from the same artists, and this feeds the craze you talk about. Yet when a true representative of our culture like the twins makes something available to the fans of course the frenzy will consume it as it does much lesser artists. To me judging them based on this print release alone is unfair, and the defending the value atleast in my case is trying to help people get past all the bulls**t that is being posted on here. I didnt buy one i wasn't lucky enough to and I wont buy one on the secondary market, I am ok with that. Os Gemeos has 200K instagram followers not because they sell prints and art but because they have touched a huge demographic, painted cities for the past 2 decades and imprinted themselves on the world. You dont think that 99 of those 200K fans can afford a 4K print? I dont see the problem with any hype that comes there way, only because they arent attention whores that feed off this hype and need to always be in the spotlight. They have found a balance in there work street/gallery and it works for them. I am sure someone mentioned making a print at a studio Picasso printed at and it sounded intriguing. One of the major reasons I coveted this print was because this print making process is also artistic in nature and each print is an extension of their art not just a reproduction. The guy that keeps bring up Koons is clueless I wont restate what I have stated about OG vs contemporary counterparts, I will say that there is no comparison to this print and a Archival Giclee photograph even if a smaller edition from the worlds highest paid artist. You are basically paying for his signature IMO and there is no soul in that image, OG hands are all over this print and there mark has been left on it in more way that just a reproduction. Secondly we wouldn't even be having this conversation if the price was printed at 1k because all friends and family would have all gotten them because they could afford it. 4k was a lot of money for anyone and not only did it take out some of the speculation it also took out the homey discount aspect of a print run that can happen. I am still taken back by some of these posts, I just have to shake my head. Well said. Why anyone wouldn't get that the talented ones in any field rise to the top and are desired, and more importantly if considered artists should get paid, is beyond me.
I always find it funny that street art, art that was "born on the streets." Democratic art, often anti-consumerist and made for "everyone" is actually just a scene filled with hundreds of thousands of rabid fans literally obsessed with owning limited editions for their interior walls. Whose lives somehow seem incomplete without a signed print they can own and consume and covet and flip for something better next year. Fans who continually defend the high prices demanded for these street art prints, whose editions generally trade at higher premiums than their contemporary artist counterparts. Don't blame 99 prints or os gemeos for manufacturing hype. They don't need to do that because all of you people have done it for them. It's the 10,000 posts on the Banksy forum and other forums that is the hype. It's all so ironic. Its not a democratic art at all it never has been, its an artform where artists do what they want on the streets without asking for permission I dont see the democracy in that at all. I can see graffiti and street art being more socialist than democratic due to the non-consumerist aspect of street work as you stated. You are are correct the fans do have an effect on the art in a negative way at times and collecting art has turned into whole genre of its own within street art. Its a biproduct of our societies and people wanting a part of something that is given freely in most cases. The difference between the twins and alot of other artists this forum caters to is that Os Gemeos are authentic representations of the real power of the artform, and most of the other hyped artists are products of the market and their work exists only because forums like this exist. You dont see those artists painting around the world still for free, giving donating shows to small galleries that helped them along the way. You see edition after edition from the same artists, and this feeds the craze you talk about. Yet when a true representative of our culture like the twins makes something available to the fans of course the frenzy will consume it as it does much lesser artists. To me judging them based on this print release alone is unfair, and the defending the value atleast in my case is trying to help people get past all the bulls**t that is being posted on here. I didnt buy one i wasn't lucky enough to and I wont buy one on the secondary market, I am ok with that. Os Gemeos has 200K instagram followers not because they sell prints and art but because they have touched a huge demographic, painted cities for the past 2 decades and imprinted themselves on the world. You dont think that 99 of those 200K fans can afford a 4K print? I dont see the problem with any hype that comes there way, only because they arent attention whores that feed off this hype and need to always be in the spotlight. They have found a balance in there work street/gallery and it works for them. I am sure someone mentioned making a print at a studio Picasso printed at and it sounded intriguing. One of the major reasons I coveted this print was because this print making process is also artistic in nature and each print is an extension of their art not just a reproduction. The guy that keeps bring up Koons is clueless I wont restate what I have stated about OG vs contemporary counterparts, I will say that there is no comparison to this print and a Archival Giclee photograph even if a smaller edition from the worlds highest paid artist. You are basically paying for his signature IMO and there is no soul in that image, OG hands are all over this print and there mark has been left on it in more way that just a reproduction. Secondly we wouldn't even be having this conversation if the price was printed at 1k because all friends and family would have all gotten them because they could afford it. 4k was a lot of money for anyone and not only did it take out some of the speculation it also took out the homey discount aspect of a print run that can happen. I am still taken back by some of these posts, I just have to shake my head. Well said. Why anyone wouldn't get that the talented ones in any field rise to the top and are desired, and more importantly if considered artists should get paid, is beyond me.
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therivler1
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by therivler1 on Jan 29, 2014 20:09:39 GMT 1, i enjoy aryz's work, but he is a flash in the pan compared to the twins.
i enjoy aryz's work, but he is a flash in the pan compared to the twins.
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alittle
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by alittle on Jan 29, 2014 20:15:19 GMT 1, Not sure I get the comparison either.
Anyways, not much to talk about now. Looking forward to the next release.
Not sure I get the comparison either.
Anyways, not much to talk about now. Looking forward to the next release.
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graffuturism
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by graffuturism on Jan 29, 2014 20:27:30 GMT 1, I believe the term is called grasping at straws
I believe the term is called grasping at straws
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Happy Shopper on Jan 29, 2014 20:43:25 GMT 1, this whole thread makes me laugh and cringe in equal measure. every f**king release thats ever mentioned up on this forum starts and ends the same way. hype followed by bitterness. i bet theres a few people thinking if they moan loud enough 99prints will release a ireallywantedonequeuejumping grey edition just to keep the "fans" happy.
And they usually end with someone questioning people's right to discuss (bitch and moan) a subject... On a forum! Seems we've reached that point. Thanks for contributing
this whole thread makes me laugh and cringe in equal measure. every f**king release thats ever mentioned up on this forum starts and ends the same way. hype followed by bitterness. i bet theres a few people thinking if they moan loud enough 99prints will release a ireallywantedonequeuejumping grey edition just to keep the "fans" happy. And they usually end with someone questioning people's right to discuss (bitch and moan) a subject... On a forum! Seems we've reached that point. Thanks for contributing
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noirrion
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by noirrion on Jan 29, 2014 20:52:47 GMT 1, Senseless discussions about comparing A to B, A to C, A to D and whatยดs the most appropriate price.
Iยดd love to have one (even for that price) but wasnยดt lucky enough. Thatยดs fine. Congrats to those who grabbed one and who are already looking forward to hang it on their walls. And maybe thereยดs another one coming. Maybe an edition of 500 for a price of 1.5K each. And maybe everybody is happy then .
At least this release helped me to realize how many beautiful artworks you get out there for less as this print such as the beautiful Herakut original I just picked up. No Os Gemeos but not bad either
Senseless discussions about comparing A to B, A to C, A to D and whatยดs the most appropriate price.
Iยดd love to have one (even for that price) but wasnยดt lucky enough. Thatยดs fine. Congrats to those who grabbed one and who are already looking forward to hang it on their walls. And maybe thereยดs another one coming. Maybe an edition of 500 for a price of 1.5K each. And maybe everybody is happy then .
At least this release helped me to realize how many beautiful artworks you get out there for less as this print such as the beautiful Herakut original I just picked up. No Os Gemeos but not bad either
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Wearology
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Wearology on Jan 29, 2014 21:11:59 GMT 1, *** Assistant Moderator Alert *** I understand that this thread has become a bit heated, but please refrain using people's Real Name's. There is a reason we have forum name's. Thanks for your understanding.
*** Assistant Moderator Alert *** I understand that this thread has become a bit heated, but please refrain using people's Real Name's. There is a reason we have forum name's. Thanks for your understanding.
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curiousgeorge
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by curiousgeorge on Jan 29, 2014 22:08:57 GMT 1, Good luck to those who have had funds taken and awaiting confirmation
Good luck to those who have had funds taken and awaiting confirmation
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therivler1
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by therivler1 on Jan 29, 2014 22:11:24 GMT 1, my status was switched from "payment accepted" to "preparation in progress."
woohoo!
my status was switched from "payment accepted" to "preparation in progress."
woohoo!
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Gard
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Gard on Jan 29, 2014 22:13:27 GMT 1, Just got an email saying they're processing my print, happy happy
Just got an email saying they're processing my print, happy happy
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overend
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by overend on Jan 29, 2014 22:22:18 GMT 1, Love their work but this image is average at best.
Love their work but this image is average at best.
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Coach on Jan 29, 2014 22:37:15 GMT 1, Good luck to those who have had funds taken and awaiting confirmation
This! Good to see forum members still being made very happy.
Good luck to those who have had funds taken and awaiting confirmation This! Good to see forum members still being made very happy.
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bmerel
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leumasdarnley
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by leumasdarnley on Jan 29, 2014 22:53:46 GMT 1, CNN is reporting it was Justin Bieber he purchased it high as sin playing crash up derby with a stolen Maserati. So chances are the sale might not hold much water but I could be wrong.
CNN is reporting it was Justin Bieber he purchased it high as sin playing crash up derby with a stolen Maserati. So chances are the sale might not hold much water but I could be wrong.
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easycraig
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by easycraig on Jan 29, 2014 22:58:18 GMT 1, Love their work but this image is average at best. I agree... - to be completely honest, I would't hang this if it were given to me for free.... (that's probably not completely true.... i am sure i could find the back of a door to hang it on. I guess what I am saying is it would never make a main wall..... and i sure as hell would never pay 4k for it.... but that is me. To those who got it.... congrats.... to those who missed it, i wouldn't stress... when there is this type of money to be made... i think there will be more prints in the future and hopefully better images selected. ec
Love their work but this image is average at best. I agree... - to be completely honest, I would't hang this if it were given to me for free.... (that's probably not completely true.... i am sure i could find the back of a door to hang it on. I guess what I am saying is it would never make a main wall..... and i sure as hell would never pay 4k for it.... but that is me. To those who got it.... congrats.... to those who missed it, i wouldn't stress... when there is this type of money to be made... i think there will be more prints in the future and hopefully better images selected. ec
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marrosi
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by marrosi on Jan 29, 2014 23:26:53 GMT 1, We just got the confirmation email from 99prints "Your order xxxxxxx - Processingย We are currently processing your 99 Prints order with the reference xxxxxxx" very excited now
We just got the confirmation email from 99prints "Your order xxxxxxx - Processingย We are currently processing your 99 Prints order with the reference xxxxxxx" very excited now
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sohohoho
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by sohohoho on Jan 30, 2014 0:24:13 GMT 1, Does anyone have a contact email address for 99 prints other than the standard one... I need to contact them urgently. Thanks.
contact@social-animals.net
Does anyone have a contact email address for 99 prints other than the standard one... I need to contact them urgently. Thanks. contact@social-animals.net
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bmerel
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by bmerel on Jan 30, 2014 0:24:39 GMT 1, Does anyone have a contact email address for 99 prints other than the standard one... I need to contact them urgently. Thanks.
did you stub your toe?
Does anyone have a contact email address for 99 prints other than the standard one... I need to contact them urgently. Thanks. did you stub your toe?
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M
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by M on Jan 30, 2014 0:41:49 GMT 1, Nothing. France is in EU
Nothing. France is in EU
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Billy Sport
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Billy Sport on Jan 30, 2014 0:51:25 GMT 1, zero. its coming from France....
zero. its coming from France....
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drugfree
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by drugfree on Jan 30, 2014 0:56:18 GMT 1, Just got an email from 99 prints and it's saying they're processing my order. Yey, made my day!
Just got an email from 99 prints and it's saying they're processing my order. Yey, made my day!
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drugfree
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by drugfree on Jan 30, 2014 1:08:45 GMT 1, Just to check... When I go into paypal and click details on the payment I made it gives me an item number under the description. Anyone else seeing that? mine says item#10
Just to check... When I go into paypal and click details on the payment I made it gives me an item number under the description. Anyone else seeing that? mine says item#10
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 1:23:41 GMT 1, it is rare you see such enthusiasm to partake in what is is a blatant art ponzi sceme.
please think before pressing the button
it is rare you see such enthusiasm to partake in what is is a blatant art ponzi sceme.
please think before pressing the button
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 1:29:31 GMT 1, I always find it funny that street art, art that was "born on the streets." Democratic art, often anti-consumerist and made for "everyone" is actually just a scene filled with hundreds of thousands of rabid fans literally obsessed with owning limited editions for their interior walls. Whose lives somehow seem incomplete without a signed print they can own and consume and covet and flip for something better next year. Fans who continually defend the high prices demanded for these street art prints, whose editions generally trade at higher premiums than their contemporary artist counterparts. Don't blame 99 prints or os gemeos for manufacturing hype. They don't need to do that because all of you people have done it for them. It's the 10,000 posts on the Banksy forum and other forums that is the hype. It's all so ironic. Its not a democratic art at all it never has been, its an artform where artists do what they want on the streets without asking for permission I dont see the democracy in that at all. I can see graffiti and street art being more socialist than democratic due to the non-consumerist aspect of street work as you stated. You are are correct the fans do have an effect on the art in a negative way at times and collecting art has turned into whole genre of its own within street art. Its a biproduct of our societies and people wanting a part of something that is given freely in most cases. The difference between the twins and alot of other artists this forum caters to is that Os Gemeos are authentic representations of the real power of the artform, and most of the other hyped artists are products of the market and their work exists only because forums like this exist. You dont see those artists painting around the world still for free, giving donating shows to small galleries that helped them along the way. You see edition after edition from the same artists, and this feeds the craze you talk about. Yet when a true representative of our culture like the twins makes something available to the fans of course the frenzy will consume it as it does much lesser artists. To me judging them based on this print release alone is unfair, and the defending the value atleast in my case is trying to help people get past all the bulls**t that is being posted on here. I didnt buy one i wasn't lucky enough to and I wont buy one on the secondary market, I am ok with that. Os Gemeos has 200K instagram followers not because they sell prints and art but because they have touched a huge demographic, painted cities for the past 2 decades and imprinted themselves on the world. You dont think that 99 of those 200K fans can afford a 4K print? I dont see the problem with any hype that comes there way, only because they arent attention whores that feed off this hype and need to always be in the spotlight. They have found a balance in there work street/gallery and it works for them. I am sure someone mentioned making a print at a studio Picasso printed at and it sounded intriguing. One of the major reasons I coveted this print was because this print making process is also artistic in nature and each print is an extension of their art not just a reproduction. The guy that keeps bring up Koons is clueless I wont restate what I have stated about OG vs contemporary counterparts, I will say that there is no comparison to this print and a Archival Giclee photograph even if a smaller edition from the worlds highest paid artist. You are basically paying for his signature IMO and there is no soul in that image, OG hands are all over this print and there mark has been left on it in more way that just a reproduction. Secondly we wouldn't even be having this conversation if the price was printed at 1k because all friends and family would have all gotten them because they could afford it. 4k was a lot of money for anyone and not only did it take out some of the speculation it also took out the homey discount aspect of a print run that can happen. I am still taken back by some of these posts, I just have to shake my head. lots of words, yet you fail to make any kind of point
I always find it funny that street art, art that was "born on the streets." Democratic art, often anti-consumerist and made for "everyone" is actually just a scene filled with hundreds of thousands of rabid fans literally obsessed with owning limited editions for their interior walls. Whose lives somehow seem incomplete without a signed print they can own and consume and covet and flip for something better next year. Fans who continually defend the high prices demanded for these street art prints, whose editions generally trade at higher premiums than their contemporary artist counterparts. Don't blame 99 prints or os gemeos for manufacturing hype. They don't need to do that because all of you people have done it for them. It's the 10,000 posts on the Banksy forum and other forums that is the hype. It's all so ironic. Its not a democratic art at all it never has been, its an artform where artists do what they want on the streets without asking for permission I dont see the democracy in that at all. I can see graffiti and street art being more socialist than democratic due to the non-consumerist aspect of street work as you stated. You are are correct the fans do have an effect on the art in a negative way at times and collecting art has turned into whole genre of its own within street art. Its a biproduct of our societies and people wanting a part of something that is given freely in most cases. The difference between the twins and alot of other artists this forum caters to is that Os Gemeos are authentic representations of the real power of the artform, and most of the other hyped artists are products of the market and their work exists only because forums like this exist. You dont see those artists painting around the world still for free, giving donating shows to small galleries that helped them along the way. You see edition after edition from the same artists, and this feeds the craze you talk about. Yet when a true representative of our culture like the twins makes something available to the fans of course the frenzy will consume it as it does much lesser artists. To me judging them based on this print release alone is unfair, and the defending the value atleast in my case is trying to help people get past all the bulls**t that is being posted on here. I didnt buy one i wasn't lucky enough to and I wont buy one on the secondary market, I am ok with that. Os Gemeos has 200K instagram followers not because they sell prints and art but because they have touched a huge demographic, painted cities for the past 2 decades and imprinted themselves on the world. You dont think that 99 of those 200K fans can afford a 4K print? I dont see the problem with any hype that comes there way, only because they arent attention whores that feed off this hype and need to always be in the spotlight. They have found a balance in there work street/gallery and it works for them. I am sure someone mentioned making a print at a studio Picasso printed at and it sounded intriguing. One of the major reasons I coveted this print was because this print making process is also artistic in nature and each print is an extension of their art not just a reproduction. The guy that keeps bring up Koons is clueless I wont restate what I have stated about OG vs contemporary counterparts, I will say that there is no comparison to this print and a Archival Giclee photograph even if a smaller edition from the worlds highest paid artist. You are basically paying for his signature IMO and there is no soul in that image, OG hands are all over this print and there mark has been left on it in more way that just a reproduction. Secondly we wouldn't even be having this conversation if the price was printed at 1k because all friends and family would have all gotten them because they could afford it. 4k was a lot of money for anyone and not only did it take out some of the speculation it also took out the homey discount aspect of a print run that can happen. I am still taken back by some of these posts, I just have to shake my head. lots of words, yet you fail to make any kind of point
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BKBOI
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by BKBOI on Jan 30, 2014 1:59:17 GMT 1, Can't wait for Justin Bieber's print release with 99prints.
Can't wait for Justin Bieber's print release with 99prints.
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graffuturism
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by graffuturism on Jan 30, 2014 2:03:03 GMT 1, lots of words, yet you fail to make any kind of point I blame the Coffee
lots of words, yet you fail to make any kind of point I blame the Coffee
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BKBOI
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by BKBOI on Jan 30, 2014 2:52:18 GMT 1, lots of words, yet you fail to make any kind of point I blame the American Coffee FTFY
Can't be credible unless you blame Americans
lots of words, yet you fail to make any kind of point I blame the American Coffee FTFY Can't be credible unless you blame Americans
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dreadnatty
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by dreadnatty on Jan 30, 2014 2:57:41 GMT 1, Elevated Scott bagged one - Fo' Sho'
Elevated Scott bagged one - Fo' Sho'
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