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New Banksy?, by iamzero on Apr 17, 2014 8:55:48 GMT 1, Well the other one must be Outis trying to bite his style with epic fail.
Well the other one must be Outis trying to bite his style with epic fail.
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New Banksy?, by Dr Plip on Apr 17, 2014 9:10:58 GMT 1, Many artists have left art on the streets for people to take home.
Many artists have left art on the streets for people to take home. Antony Gormley. |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:13:38 GMT 1, Many artists have left art on the streets for people to take home. Antony Gormley.
SPQR
Loads of artists at Upfest
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Many artists have left art on the streets for people to take home. Antony Gormley. Adam Neate SPQR Loads of artists at Upfest etc |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 9:15:00 GMT 1, Plip I live your avatar. Maybe you should change your user name to 'Poop' though.
Plip I live your avatar. Maybe you should change your user name to 'Poop' though.
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Dr Plip
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New Banksy?, by Dr Plip on Apr 17, 2014 9:16:34 GMT 1, So... If any other artist had ripped a stock image off they would be hung up and done up the rear with hot pokers. Banksy does it, all the fan boys offer him their rear. Stay classy you plonkers.
So... If any other artist had ripped a stock image off they would be hung up and done up the rear with hot pokers. Banksy does it, all the fan boys offer him their rear. Stay classy you plonkers. Hasn't he used a few stock images in the past? I wasn't aware this was a revelation. Whether it's a stock image used, or a relation/flatmate, I don't see it makes a huge difference. Drawing is hard, but so is spraying the image on the street without getting caught. |
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New Banksy?, by fastone on Apr 17, 2014 10:31:04 GMT 1, So... If any other artist had ripped a stock image off they would be hung up and done up the rear with hot pokers. Banksy does it, all the fan boys offer him their rear. Stay classy you plonkers. Hasn't he used a few stock images in the past? I wasn't aware this was a revelation. Whether it's a stock image used, or a relation/flatmate, I don't see it makes a huge difference. Drawing is hard, but so is spraying the image on the street without getting caught. I think that, once again, FREE®ANGE is being a little mischievious. He knows Banksy has used other peoples images for an awful lot of his work. Please take the time to research old threads - you'll find lots of gems about source images - like the hydridising of the Eli Reed and Joe Rosenthal images for flags, the advert used for Morons etc etc. fastone
So... If any other artist had ripped a stock image off they would be hung up and done up the rear with hot pokers. Banksy does it, all the fan boys offer him their rear. Stay classy you plonkers. Hasn't he used a few stock images in the past? I wasn't aware this was a revelation. Whether it's a stock image used, or a relation/flatmate, I don't see it makes a huge difference. Drawing is hard, but so is spraying the image on the street without getting caught. I think that, once again, FREE®ANGE is being a little mischievious. He knows Banksy has used other peoples images for an awful lot of his work. Please take the time to research old threads - you'll find lots of gems about source images - like the hydridising of the Eli Reed and Joe Rosenthal images for flags, the advert used for Morons etc etc. fastone |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 11:14:03 GMT 1, Now at the Bristol Museum.
www.bristolpost.co.uk/Banksy-mural-moved-Bristol-boys-club-Bristol/story-20972379-detail/story.html
“I also will be asking Banksy if he would consider making a limited edition print to be sold in aid of the club. He has done that in the past. I can’t read his mind, but I think he is a person with a generous spirit and I think he would quite like a solution that is good for the whole of Bristol.
“That’s the sort of direction I’m thinking of taking things.”
Good luck with that one fella.
Now at the Bristol Museum. www.bristolpost.co.uk/Banksy-mural-moved-Bristol-boys-club-Bristol/story-20972379-detail/story.html“I also will be asking Banksy if he would consider making a limited edition print to be sold in aid of the club. He has done that in the past. I can’t read his mind, but I think he is a person with a generous spirit and I think he would quite like a solution that is good for the whole of Bristol. “That’s the sort of direction I’m thinking of taking things.” Good luck with that one fella. |
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New Banksy?, by kittysaz on Apr 17, 2014 11:35:44 GMT 1, A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates properly belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it
Section 1 Theft Act 1968
All elements of up the offence have to be complete for the offence of theft to be made out
Kitty
A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates properly belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it
Section 1 Theft Act 1968
All elements of up the offence have to be complete for the offence of theft to be made out
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 11:44:47 GMT 1,
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 11:53:50 GMT 1, A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates properly belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it Section 1 Theft Act 1968 All elements of up the offence have to be complete for the offence of theft to be made out Kitty
so basically if the plywood was part of the councils property as toast said the guy who took it would be liable for a theft charge if the council pursued it and he'd have to return the plywood, the painting would'nt be anything to do with the theft charge because nobody actually owned it, what a kirfuffle!
A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates properly belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it Section 1 Theft Act 1968 All elements of up the offence have to be complete for the offence of theft to be made out Kitty so basically if the plywood was part of the councils property as toast said the guy who took it would be liable for a theft charge if the council pursued it and he'd have to return the plywood, the painting would'nt be anything to do with the theft charge because nobody actually owned it, what a kirfuffle! |
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New Banksy?, by Coach on Apr 17, 2014 12:00:04 GMT 1, street art is transitory its very nature is change, it's not meant to be f**king ummed and erred over like a piece in gallery. It's a smile as you walk passed, a thought provoking statement, it brightens your rubbish strewn street and then it's gone..and then it begins again. It's not for 'saving', the pictures do that, life goes on, either an individual tries to use it for personal gain or in some ultra rare instances it helps someone make a better life for someone else (where the f**k were all you holier than thou people when WCP was doing his thing?). If I have to choose between seeing a piece of art on the streets and knowing some kids got a better start to life, I know which I'd choose. Get your priorities right, stop bowing to the institutions, to the state and to what you're supposed to think is 'right', you're doing the exact opposite of what street art/vandalism/graffiti should stand for.
Very well said.
street art is transitory its very nature is change, it's not meant to be f**king ummed and erred over like a piece in gallery. It's a smile as you walk passed, a thought provoking statement, it brightens your rubbish strewn street and then it's gone..and then it begins again. It's not for 'saving', the pictures do that, life goes on, either an individual tries to use it for personal gain or in some ultra rare instances it helps someone make a better life for someone else (where the f**k were all you holier than thou people when WCP was doing his thing?). If I have to choose between seeing a piece of art on the streets and knowing some kids got a better start to life, I know which I'd choose. Get your priorities right, stop bowing to the institutions, to the state and to what you're supposed to think is 'right', you're doing the exact opposite of what street art/vandalism/graffiti should stand for. Very well said. |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 12:00:54 GMT 1, street art is transitory its very nature is change, it's not meant to be f**king ummed and erred over like a piece in gallery. It's a smile as you walk passed, a thought provoking statement, it brightens your rubbish strewn street and then it's gone..and then it begins again. It's not for 'saving', the pictures do that, life goes on, either an individual tries to use it for personal gain or in some ultra rare instances it helps someone make a better life for someone else (where the f**k were all you holier than thou people when WCP was doing his thing?). If I have to choose between seeing a piece of art on the streets and knowing some kids got a better start to life, I know which I'd choose. Get your priorities right, stop bowing to the institutions, to the state and to what you're supposed to think is 'right', you're doing the exact opposite of what street art/vandalism/graffiti should stand for. Yawn!! Leftist spotted 
street art is transitory its very nature is change, it's not meant to be f**king ummed and erred over like a piece in gallery. It's a smile as you walk passed, a thought provoking statement, it brightens your rubbish strewn street and then it's gone..and then it begins again. It's not for 'saving', the pictures do that, life goes on, either an individual tries to use it for personal gain or in some ultra rare instances it helps someone make a better life for someone else (where the f**k were all you holier than thou people when WCP was doing his thing?). If I have to choose between seeing a piece of art on the streets and knowing some kids got a better start to life, I know which I'd choose. Get your priorities right, stop bowing to the institutions, to the state and to what you're supposed to think is 'right', you're doing the exact opposite of what street art/vandalism/graffiti should stand for. Yawn!! Leftist spotted and that's a negative on a Banksy forum now is it ? Ignorant right wing *edited |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 12:08:23 GMT 1, What next Steve or anyone with a bald head is Banksy lol
What next Steve or anyone with a bald head is Banksy lol |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 12:22:23 GMT 1, What next Steve or anyone with a bald head is Banksy lol
What next Steve or anyone with a bald head is Banksy lol You might be on to somthing there. |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 12:39:16 GMT 1, What next Steve or anyone with a bald head is Banksy lol
What next Steve or anyone with a bald head is Banksy lol You mean hes not? |
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New Banksy?, by kittysaz on Apr 17, 2014 12:41:31 GMT 1, Castle Gallery
It's a little complicated
If it was Banksy's plywood and he put it up there with nails and caused damage to the stonework or surrounding wood he has committed criminal damage TO THE WALL or surround. Simple legislation.
If the plywood belonged to the boys club or council, and Banksy sprayed on it, again, criminal damage to the PLYWOOD
The theft aspect is more complicated
There HAS to he proved by the owner that whoever removed it had an InTENTION to PERMANENTLY deprive
So - if the plywood is council property and the boys club took it away with the intention of selling it, then the boys club commit theft and the buyer would be potentially handling stolen goods (different legislation)
Phew.
I've just gone back to training school.
Castle Gallery
It's a little complicated
If it was Banksy's plywood and he put it up there with nails and caused damage to the stonework or surrounding wood he has committed criminal damage TO THE WALL or surround. Simple legislation.
If the plywood belonged to the boys club or council, and Banksy sprayed on it, again, criminal damage to the PLYWOOD
The theft aspect is more complicated
There HAS to he proved by the owner that whoever removed it had an InTENTION to PERMANENTLY deprive
So - if the plywood is council property and the boys club took it away with the intention of selling it, then the boys club commit theft and the buyer would be potentially handling stolen goods (different legislation)
Phew.
I've just gone back to training school.
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New Banksy?, by kittysaz on Apr 17, 2014 12:43:53 GMT 1, And I guess that's why pest control won't issue COA for stuff on walls etc.... It's an admission of a criminal offence....
Clever lawyers would I am sure get around this...
When the owner of a piece of art on a wall decides to sell it it's up to them.
So if the council own the wood and they decide to sell it, no theft.
And I guess that's why pest control won't issue COA for stuff on walls etc.... It's an admission of a criminal offence....
Clever lawyers would I am sure get around this...
When the owner of a piece of art on a wall decides to sell it it's up to them.
So if the council own the wood and they decide to sell it, no theft.
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New Banksy?, by kittysaz on Apr 17, 2014 12:47:34 GMT 1, There is significant stated case law on theft too, which also complicates things...,.
There is significant stated case law on theft too, which also complicates things...,.
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New Banksy?, by kittysaz on Apr 17, 2014 12:52:45 GMT 1, And... No victim? No crime.
And... No victim? No crime.
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New Banksy?, by Dr Plip on Apr 17, 2014 13:03:23 GMT 1, Castle Gallery It's a little complicated If it was Banksy's plywood and he put it up there with nails and caused damage to the stonework or surrounding wood he has committed criminal damage TO THE WALL or surround. Simple legislation. If the plywood belonged to the boys club or council, and Banksy sprayed on it, again, criminal damage to the PLYWOOD The theft aspect is more complicated There HAS to he proved by the owner that whoever removed it had an InTENTION to PERMANENTLY deprive So - if the plywood is council property and the boys club took it away with the intention of selling it, then the boys club commit theft and the buyer would be potentially handling stolen goods (different legislation) Phew. I've just gone back to training school.
Castle Gallery It's a little complicated If it was Banksy's plywood and he put it up there with nails and caused damage to the stonework or surrounding wood he has committed criminal damage TO THE WALL or surround. Simple legislation. If the plywood belonged to the boys club or council, and Banksy sprayed on it, again, criminal damage to the PLYWOOD The theft aspect is more complicated There HAS to he proved by the owner that whoever removed it had an InTENTION to PERMANENTLY deprive So - if the plywood is council property and the boys club took it away with the intention of selling it, then the boys club commit theft and the buyer would be potentially handling stolen goods (different legislation) Phew. I've just gone back to training school. And this is how you're going to end up as the forum's resident Ally McBeal. |
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New Banksy?, by kittysaz on Apr 17, 2014 13:07:03 GMT 1, Lol Plop. Happy to help where I can
You lot are a very funny, kind, occasionally completely bonkers bunch.
The right said Fred posts have had me giggling muchly
Lol Plop. Happy to help where I can
You lot are a very funny, kind, occasionally completely bonkers bunch.
The right said Fred posts have had me giggling muchly
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New Banksy?, by Unica on Apr 17, 2014 14:00:43 GMT 1, It looks like someone is producing some merchandise from this image after the piece has been turned over to the council. Probably the threat of being charged with criminal damage and theft helped him have a change of heart. I will be looking forward to supporting the club and buying a print if one is produced. Maybe they could work with WCP, he would be the man I went to if I was going to knock off a quality print.
www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-27062456
It looks like someone is producing some merchandise from this image after the piece has been turned over to the council. Probably the threat of being charged with criminal damage and theft helped him have a change of heart. I will be looking forward to supporting the club and buying a print if one is produced. Maybe they could work with WCP, he would be the man I went to if I was going to knock off a quality print. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-27062456 |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 14:05:29 GMT 1, Yawn!! Leftist spotted and that's a negative on a Banksy forum now is it ? Ignorant right wing f**k head ! f**k off
Yawn!! Leftist spotted and that's a negative on a Banksy forum now is it ? Ignorant right wing f**k head ! f**k off Has the winky smiley face lost it's powers? |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 14:06:56 GMT 1, It looks like the boxing club manager will be producing some merchandise of this image after being coerced in to giving the piece to the council. Probably the threat of being charged with criminal damage and theft helped him have a change of heart. I will be looking forward to supporting the club and buying a print if they produce one. Maybe they could work with WCP, he would be the man I went to if I was going to knock off a quality print. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-27062456
It looks like the boxing club manager will be producing some merchandise of this image after being coerced in to giving the piece to the council. Probably the threat of being charged with criminal damage and theft helped him have a change of heart. I will be looking forward to supporting the club and buying a print if they produce one. Maybe they could work with WCP, he would be the man I went to if I was going to knock off a quality print. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-27062456that would be great. an awesome image for a good cause |
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New Banksy?, by Pistol on Apr 17, 2014 14:17:02 GMT 1, Talking of which this appeared out by my front wall this morning. It must have been a gift I was going to have viewings for a small donation but it has now been taken to my local museum!
Talking of which this appeared out by my front wall this morning. It must have been a gift I was going to have viewings for a small donation but it has now been taken to my local museum! |
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New Banksy?, by Dr Plip on Apr 17, 2014 14:26:30 GMT 1, It looks like someone is producing some merchandise from this image after the piece has been turned over to the council. Probably the threat of being charged with criminal damage and theft helped him have a change of heart. I will be looking forward to supporting the club and buying a print if one is produced. Maybe they could work with WCP, he would be the man I went to if I was going to knock off a quality print. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-27062456
It looks like someone is producing some merchandise from this image after the piece has been turned over to the council. Probably the threat of being charged with criminal damage and theft helped him have a change of heart. I will be looking forward to supporting the club and buying a print if one is produced. Maybe they could work with WCP, he would be the man I went to if I was going to knock off a quality print. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-27062456Rather than use Banky's image, could they not create their own? I'm not an artist, but would something like this work as a stencil? |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 14:33:55 GMT 1, Tweeted.............
bristol_museum
2/3 once we have cleaned the spiders, wasp nest and dirt off the work you'll be able to see it from 10am tomorrow ow.ly/i/5hbCe
Tweeted............. bristol_museum 2/3 once we have cleaned the spiders, wasp nest and dirt off the work you'll be able to see it from 10am tomorrow ow.ly/i/5hbCe |
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New Banksy?, by Dr Plip on Apr 17, 2014 14:39:58 GMT 1, Tweeted............. bristol_museum 2/3 once we have cleaned the spiders, wasp nest and dirt off the work you'll be able to see it from 10am tomorrow ow.ly/i/5hbCe
Tweeted............. bristol_museum 2/3 once we have cleaned the spiders, wasp nest and dirt off the work you'll be able to see it from 10am tomorrow ow.ly/i/5hbCe Saucy. |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 14:41:54 GMT 1, Love this.
It would look lovely in a nice gilt frame.
Can i nick it for instagram?.
Love this. It would look lovely in a nice gilt frame. Can i nick it for instagram?. |
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New Banksy?, by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 14:42:14 GMT 1, LOL at the gloves. It's an old board and spraypaint...
Big benefit to the museum, should get quite a few new visitors.
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So does anyone think the police carting it away and delivering it to the museum will set a precedent for future works?
LOL at the gloves. It's an old board and spraypaint...
Big benefit to the museum, should get quite a few new visitors.
Edit:
So does anyone think the police carting it away and delivering it to the museum will set a precedent for future works?
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