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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 23:02:40 GMT 1, LOL. Have some of this instead. Wonderful!. A Musical God.
LOL. Have some of this instead. Wonderful!. A Musical God.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 7:09:54 GMT 1, LOL. Have some of this instead. Wonderful!. A Musical God. I truly think the guy is great.
LOL. Have some of this instead. Wonderful!. A Musical God. I truly think the guy is great.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 13:32:14 GMT 1, Buffalo Bill ?
Buffalo Bill ?
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 1, 2014 14:36:10 GMT 1, I'm getting excited. Only 6hours until I send the Bugle invoices out. Sacked, yours in in the post.
Dreadphone
I'm getting excited. Only 6hours until I send the Bugle invoices out. Sacked, yours in in the post.
Dreadphone
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 1, 2014 19:40:50 GMT 1, "Stealing Banksy auction doesn’t benefit charity
Charities are yet to receive funds raised by the Stealing Banksy auction "
" Questions are being raised about the profits of an auction of unauthenticated Banksy artworks after it emerged one of the charity beneficiaries listed does not exist.
On Sunday, bidding closed on a private, online auction of nine unauthorised Banksy artworks. Before the online auction website became inaccessible nearly four hours before it ended, 29 bids had been placed, with lots commanding values of between £45,000 and £495,000 each"
www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-news/10800879/Stealing-Banksy-auction-doesnt-benefit-charity.html
"Stealing Banksy auction doesn’t benefit charity
Charities are yet to receive funds raised by the Stealing Banksy auction "
" Questions are being raised about the profits of an auction of unauthenticated Banksy artworks after it emerged one of the charity beneficiaries listed does not exist.
On Sunday, bidding closed on a private, online auction of nine unauthorised Banksy artworks. Before the online auction website became inaccessible nearly four hours before it ended, 29 bids had been placed, with lots commanding values of between £45,000 and £495,000 each"
www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-news/10800879/Stealing-Banksy-auction-doesnt-benefit-charity.html
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 1, 2014 22:57:57 GMT 1, Page removed Ploppi.
Its on Complex though...
www.complex.com/art-design/2014/05/the-stealing-banksy-auction-has-not-benefited-charities
Yet another shady story involving Banksy's art and false promises of charitable donations. First there was the BNE collaboration that never was, and their subsequent fallout with Charity: Water. Now, The Telegraph is reporting that the "Stealing Banksy?" auction (which followed the unauthorized exhibition that Banksy called "disgusting") did not benefit charities in the way that it claimed.
The private auction of nine Banksy works was organized by the Sincura Group. Sincura Group director Tony Baxter told Vandalog that "100% of the profits from the sale of No Ball Games will be given to the local charity Step by Step, which helps underprivileged children in the Tottenham Area." The funny thing is, according to Telegraph, "there is no charity called Step by Step in Tottenham, and a homelessness charity called Step by Step, based in Aldershot, tell The Telegraph that they have never heard of Sincura Group, the Stealing Banksy auction and don’t have a branch in Tottenham." That's strike one.
Strike two- The "Stealing Banksy?" website states that the Sincura Group would make a charitable donation to The Nelson Mandela Children's Fund (UK), and the charity was supposed to "receive a share of all ticket sales, auction registrations, art sales and corporate events." Instead, they told the publication that they are only benefiting from the sale of one piece in the auction and a portion of the ticket sales.
And the final strike- The Tree of Hope CEO Jeremy Marris says that his charity was promised 5% from the sale of another piece in the auction, and has asked the Sincura Group how much the piece sold for. He has yet to hear from them and the auction website was not updated within 24 hours with news about the sale, as was promised.
An update is scheduled for May 10 that will reveal "the true motives behind the show" as well as the locations of the artwork and info about the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund donation, but the Sincura Group may have a bit more explaining to do by then.
Page removed Ploppi. Its on Complex though... www.complex.com/art-design/2014/05/the-stealing-banksy-auction-has-not-benefited-charitiesYet another shady story involving Banksy's art and false promises of charitable donations. First there was the BNE collaboration that never was, and their subsequent fallout with Charity: Water. Now, The Telegraph is reporting that the "Stealing Banksy?" auction (which followed the unauthorized exhibition that Banksy called "disgusting") did not benefit charities in the way that it claimed. The private auction of nine Banksy works was organized by the Sincura Group. Sincura Group director Tony Baxter told Vandalog that "100% of the profits from the sale of No Ball Games will be given to the local charity Step by Step, which helps underprivileged children in the Tottenham Area." The funny thing is, according to Telegraph, "there is no charity called Step by Step in Tottenham, and a homelessness charity called Step by Step, based in Aldershot, tell The Telegraph that they have never heard of Sincura Group, the Stealing Banksy auction and don’t have a branch in Tottenham." That's strike one. Strike two- The "Stealing Banksy?" website states that the Sincura Group would make a charitable donation to The Nelson Mandela Children's Fund (UK), and the charity was supposed to "receive a share of all ticket sales, auction registrations, art sales and corporate events." Instead, they told the publication that they are only benefiting from the sale of one piece in the auction and a portion of the ticket sales. And the final strike- The Tree of Hope CEO Jeremy Marris says that his charity was promised 5% from the sale of another piece in the auction, and has asked the Sincura Group how much the piece sold for. He has yet to hear from them and the auction website was not updated within 24 hours with news about the sale, as was promised. An update is scheduled for May 10 that will reveal "the true motives behind the show" as well as the locations of the artwork and info about the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund donation, but the Sincura Group may have a bit more explaining to do by then.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Dr Plip on May 1, 2014 23:32:21 GMT 1, From the Sincura Facebook page:
"We would like to thank the hundreds of people who attended, and the thousands of people who engaged in conversation about, the recent STEALING BANKSY? show in London.
Our goal was not to answer, but to ask, questions surround the legal, moral and social implication of the removal and sale or street art.
The true motives behind the show will be revealed on the stealingbanksy.com website on May 10th.
Both the Sincura Group, and the event patriarch, would like to thank you for engaging in this project - whether supporting or condoning the exhibition."
I'm guessing they'll claim it was a social experiment.
From the Sincura Facebook page:
"We would like to thank the hundreds of people who attended, and the thousands of people who engaged in conversation about, the recent STEALING BANKSY? show in London.
Our goal was not to answer, but to ask, questions surround the legal, moral and social implication of the removal and sale or street art.
The true motives behind the show will be revealed on the stealingbanksy.com website on May 10th.
Both the Sincura Group, and the event patriarch, would like to thank you for engaging in this project - whether supporting or condoning the exhibition."
I'm guessing they'll claim it was a social experiment.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Dungle on May 1, 2014 23:47:54 GMT 1, From the Sincura Facebook page: Both the Sincura Group, and the event patriarch, would like to thank you for engaging in this project - whether supporting or condoning the exhibition."
the aim was to make money. I guess they succeeded
From the Sincura Facebook page: Both the Sincura Group, and the event patriarch, would like to thank you for engaging in this project - whether supporting or condoning the exhibition." the aim was to make money. I guess they succeeded
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 2, 2014 11:57:47 GMT 1, ""Our goal was not to answer, but to ask, questions surround the legal, moral and social implication of the removal and sale or street art.
The true motives behind the show will be revealed on the stealingbanksy.com website on May 10th. ""
They just make it up as they go along.
There is no question to answer.
Irrespective of who painted what on a property owners outside wall without permission from the owner.
The owner can do what they want with their wall and whatever is painted on it.
Moral and social factors don't come into it.
It's the PR machine and media hype turning basic stencil pictures into a visual version of War and Peace.
Did anyone actually bid on those pieces or is it a case of pretending that they were sold at auction?
""Our goal was not to answer, but to ask, questions surround the legal, moral and social implication of the removal and sale or street art.
The true motives behind the show will be revealed on the stealingbanksy.com website on May 10th. ""
They just make it up as they go along.
There is no question to answer.
Irrespective of who painted what on a property owners outside wall without permission from the owner.
The owner can do what they want with their wall and whatever is painted on it.
Moral and social factors don't come into it.
It's the PR machine and media hype turning basic stencil pictures into a visual version of War and Peace.
Did anyone actually bid on those pieces or is it a case of pretending that they were sold at auction?
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Dr Plip on May 2, 2014 12:00:23 GMT 1, I thought that Sincura statement was a bit of nonsense bollocks at first. I checked 3 times to make sure that it was posted on their actual, official, real-life Facebook account.
I thought that Sincura statement was a bit of nonsense bollocks at first. I checked 3 times to make sure that it was posted on their actual, official, real-life Facebook account.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 2, 2014 12:20:03 GMT 1, Fk Sincura.
Fk Sincura.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Emile on May 2, 2014 12:25:00 GMT 1, From the Sincura Facebook page: "We would like to thank the hundreds of people who attended, and the thousands of people who engaged in conversation about, the recent STEALING BANKSY? show in London. Our goal was not to answer, but to ask, questions surround the legal, moral and social implication of the removal and sale or street art. The true motives behind the show will be revealed on the stealingbanksy.com website on May 10th. Both the Sincura Group, and the event patriarch, would like to thank you for engaging in this project - whether supporting or condoning the exhibition." I'm guessing they'll claim it was a social experiment. hahah that is classic
did I say classic? I meant ridiculous
From the Sincura Facebook page: "We would like to thank the hundreds of people who attended, and the thousands of people who engaged in conversation about, the recent STEALING BANKSY? show in London. Our goal was not to answer, but to ask, questions surround the legal, moral and social implication of the removal and sale or street art. The true motives behind the show will be revealed on the stealingbanksy.com website on May 10th. Both the Sincura Group, and the event patriarch, would like to thank you for engaging in this project - whether supporting or condoning the exhibition." I'm guessing they'll claim it was a social experiment. hahah that is classic did I say classic? I meant ridiculous
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 3, 2014 0:34:17 GMT 1, Dear Press,
Following today's episode with the Telegraph newspaper, we have moved forwards the press announcement with regards the true motives behind the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition. Please find below our press announcement which is available for publish. We thank you for your support and wish you a wonderful bank holiday weekend.
If you would like to verify the project you can email the CEO of The Old London Underground Company , Ajit Chambers. You can email him at ajit.chambers@theoldlondonundergroundcompany.com or phone him on 07872103114
Regards Tony
=========================================================== The Sincura Arts Club would like to thank the hundreds of people who attended, and the thousands of people who discussed, the recent STEALING BANKSY? exhibition in London. We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale. What is more, those artwork made available had strict caveats placed on them - that upon purchase they would be donated back for public display, and that the proceeds from any sale would benefit local charities. As a company we where approached at the start of this project to explore the feasibility of the creation of the world's first Street Art Museum in the heart of London. We believe strongly that street art is an important part of the modern day art movement and should be recognised as such. Established museums do not have budgets allocated for the preservation of such art and school curriculums shun the subject. We were tasked to prove that there was a demand for this, for the artwork to remain on view, for the conservation of the art, and as a public debate. This is why we called the show STEALING BANKSY? with the goals to explore the social, legal and moral side of the sale of street art. Our goal was not to answer questions but to ask them to the general public. The show saw a huge amount of public opinion, both good and bad, and proved that as a nation we do feel attached to this form of artwork. Our tours during the show where aimed at explaining the work we do and to engage the public for their opinions on the street art movement. And the positive feedback was tremendous. As such we are in advanced negotiations with The Old London Underground Company to convert a disused London underground station into the first ever Street Art Museum in the world. The Street Art Museum will be a working museum providing educational services to schools, showcasing preserved works, and highlighting up-and-coming artists. Much like the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition, the museum will support a number of local charities. Much of the artwork on display at the STEALING BANKSY? will be donated back to the museum. We did not mean to pull the wool over people's eyes but we were under strict instructions by our event patriarch to operate the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition under the guise of it being a sale of popular street art. By showing the negatives we hoped the positives would shine through, which it did. We do not claim that by running this event, and through our long term activities, we are above public opinion and criticism. However, we are actively working towards ensuring street art does become a recognised art form, that pieces are preserved and remain available for public view, and that the local community benefits from our actions. We anticipate the London Street Art Museum to be open within 12 months and we thank the public for their engagement in this project.
Tony Baxter Director The Sincura Group Proud Winners of Concierge Company of The Year 2013 - London Lifestyle Awards T: 0844 *** **** M: 07525 *** ****
Dear Press,
Following today's episode with the Telegraph newspaper, we have moved forwards the press announcement with regards the true motives behind the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition. Please find below our press announcement which is available for publish. We thank you for your support and wish you a wonderful bank holiday weekend.
If you would like to verify the project you can email the CEO of The Old London Underground Company , Ajit Chambers. You can email him at ajit.chambers@theoldlondonundergroundcompany.com or phone him on 07872103114
Regards Tony
=========================================================== The Sincura Arts Club would like to thank the hundreds of people who attended, and the thousands of people who discussed, the recent STEALING BANKSY? exhibition in London. We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale. What is more, those artwork made available had strict caveats placed on them - that upon purchase they would be donated back for public display, and that the proceeds from any sale would benefit local charities. As a company we where approached at the start of this project to explore the feasibility of the creation of the world's first Street Art Museum in the heart of London. We believe strongly that street art is an important part of the modern day art movement and should be recognised as such. Established museums do not have budgets allocated for the preservation of such art and school curriculums shun the subject. We were tasked to prove that there was a demand for this, for the artwork to remain on view, for the conservation of the art, and as a public debate. This is why we called the show STEALING BANKSY? with the goals to explore the social, legal and moral side of the sale of street art. Our goal was not to answer questions but to ask them to the general public. The show saw a huge amount of public opinion, both good and bad, and proved that as a nation we do feel attached to this form of artwork. Our tours during the show where aimed at explaining the work we do and to engage the public for their opinions on the street art movement. And the positive feedback was tremendous. As such we are in advanced negotiations with The Old London Underground Company to convert a disused London underground station into the first ever Street Art Museum in the world. The Street Art Museum will be a working museum providing educational services to schools, showcasing preserved works, and highlighting up-and-coming artists. Much like the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition, the museum will support a number of local charities. Much of the artwork on display at the STEALING BANKSY? will be donated back to the museum. We did not mean to pull the wool over people's eyes but we were under strict instructions by our event patriarch to operate the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition under the guise of it being a sale of popular street art. By showing the negatives we hoped the positives would shine through, which it did. We do not claim that by running this event, and through our long term activities, we are above public opinion and criticism. However, we are actively working towards ensuring street art does become a recognised art form, that pieces are preserved and remain available for public view, and that the local community benefits from our actions. We anticipate the London Street Art Museum to be open within 12 months and we thank the public for their engagement in this project.
Tony Baxter Director The Sincura Group Proud Winners of Concierge Company of The Year 2013 - London Lifestyle Awards T: 0844 *** **** M: 07525 *** ****
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 3, 2014 1:20:07 GMT 1, LOL.
LOL.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Poster Bob on May 3, 2014 9:24:55 GMT 1, That is the most error-laden press release that I have ever seen. Very professional.
That is the most error-laden press release that I have ever seen. Very professional.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by letiss on May 3, 2014 9:33:55 GMT 1, That is the most error-laden press release that I have ever seen. Very professional. Yep, guess they outsourced their press releases some far flung place that uses google translate. Either that or they wrote it on their iPhone using predictive text.
That is the most error-laden press release that I have ever seen. Very professional. Yep, guess they outsourced their press releases some far flung place that uses google translate. Either that or they wrote it on their iPhone using predictive text.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 3, 2014 12:05:21 GMT 1, "We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale."
Is this more baloney from Tony?
Have they comitted fraud by publicising that these Banksy street arts would be auctioned and also by demanding or taking payments of £50 each from people to register to bid.
The publicity a week ago was that thes epieces were removed with the uilding owners permission to be auctioned.
Now they are saying it was never a sale of street art.
Then we have some guy pops up who has a Facebook page about turning an old tube station into a museum of street art.
Is this Sincura's plan B ?
"We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale."
Is this more baloney from Tony?
Have they comitted fraud by publicising that these Banksy street arts would be auctioned and also by demanding or taking payments of £50 each from people to register to bid.
The publicity a week ago was that thes epieces were removed with the uilding owners permission to be auctioned.
Now they are saying it was never a sale of street art.
Then we have some guy pops up who has a Facebook page about turning an old tube station into a museum of street art.
Is this Sincura's plan B ?
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Dr Plip on May 3, 2014 12:11:01 GMT 1, "We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale."
Is this more baloney from Tony?
Have they comitted fraud by publicising that these Banksy street arts would be auctioned and also by demanding or taking payments of £50 each from people to register to bid.
The publicity a week ago was that thes epieces were removed with the uilding owners permission to be auctioned.
Now they are saying it was never a sale of street art.
Then we have some guy pops up who has a Facebook page about turning an old tube station into a museum of street art.
Is this Sincura's plan B ?
Yeah, the registration fee, once paid, allowing you to bid on items either not for sale or with a caveat on them.
Bit whiffy that one.
"We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale."
Is this more baloney from Tony?
Have they comitted fraud by publicising that these Banksy street arts would be auctioned and also by demanding or taking payments of £50 each from people to register to bid.
The publicity a week ago was that thes epieces were removed with the uilding owners permission to be auctioned.
Now they are saying it was never a sale of street art.
Then we have some guy pops up who has a Facebook page about turning an old tube station into a museum of street art.
Is this Sincura's plan B ?
Yeah, the registration fee, once paid, allowing you to bid on items either not for sale or with a caveat on them. Bit whiffy that one.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 3, 2014 12:11:56 GMT 1, "We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale."
Is this more baloney from Tony?
Have they comitted fraud by publicising that these Banksy street arts would be auctioned and also by demanding or taking payments of £50 each from people to register to bid.
The publicity a week ago was that thes epieces were removed with the uilding owners permission to be auctioned.
Now they are saying it was never a sale of street art.
Then we have some guy pops up who has a Facebook page about turning an old tube station into a museum of street art.
Is this Sincura's plan B ?
social experiment??
"We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale."
Is this more baloney from Tony?
Have they comitted fraud by publicising that these Banksy street arts would be auctioned and also by demanding or taking payments of £50 each from people to register to bid.
The publicity a week ago was that thes epieces were removed with the uilding owners permission to be auctioned.
Now they are saying it was never a sale of street art.
Then we have some guy pops up who has a Facebook page about turning an old tube station into a museum of street art.
Is this Sincura's plan B ?
social experiment??
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Coach on May 3, 2014 12:16:28 GMT 1, "We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale."
Is this more baloney from Tony?
Have they comitted fraud by publicising that these Banksy street arts would be auctioned and also by demanding or taking payments of £50 each from people to register to bid.
The publicity a week ago was that thes epieces were removed with the uilding owners permission to be auctioned.
Now they are saying it was never a sale of street art.
Then we have some guy pops up who has a Facebook page about turning an old tube station into a museum of street art.
Is this Sincura's plan B ?
Is it possible that they are claiming most of the work was not for sale because no one wanted to buy it?
"We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale."
Is this more baloney from Tony?
Have they comitted fraud by publicising that these Banksy street arts would be auctioned and also by demanding or taking payments of £50 each from people to register to bid.
The publicity a week ago was that thes epieces were removed with the uilding owners permission to be auctioned.
Now they are saying it was never a sale of street art.
Then we have some guy pops up who has a Facebook page about turning an old tube station into a museum of street art.
Is this Sincura's plan B ?
Is it possible that they are claiming most of the work was not for sale because no one wanted to buy it?
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 3, 2014 12:22:24 GMT 1, Now do they expect fat Boris Johnson and his whiffy mates to cough up taxpayers money to turn an old tube station into a museum of street art so tourists can pay to see street art hidden ina museum as opposed to street art in the Streets.
Which goes to show that a museum of street art is not needed.
Sincura is managing to really piss of people who like street art in a big way with their corporate mentality and their big expensive limousines and rich clients.
Now do they expect fat Boris Johnson and his whiffy mates to cough up taxpayers money to turn an old tube station into a museum of street art so tourists can pay to see street art hidden ina museum as opposed to street art in the Streets.
Which goes to show that a museum of street art is not needed.
Sincura is managing to really piss of people who like street art in a big way with their corporate mentality and their big expensive limousines and rich clients.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 3, 2014 12:29:54 GMT 1, "Is it possible that they are claiming most of the work was not for sale because no one wanted to buy it?"
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I would assume the group has future concessions / events partners to think of.
A group wouldnt want egg on its face after a flop.
Still LOL.
"Is it possible that they are claiming most of the work was not for sale because no one wanted to buy it?" ---------------------------- I would assume the group has future concessions / events partners to think of. A group wouldnt want egg on its face after a flop. Still LOL.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Deleted on May 3, 2014 12:52:47 GMT 1, Wouldnt be at shocked to learn that the CEO of say......a group, had been initially influenced into an idea for a show similar to this one by say..........a gallery owner or even a couple of gallery owners, that way they wouldnt end up looking daft.
Just wouldnt be shocked.
At all.
LOL.
Wouldnt be at shocked to learn that the CEO of say......a group, had been initially influenced into an idea for a show similar to this one by say..........a gallery owner or even a couple of gallery owners, that way they wouldnt end up looking daft. Just wouldnt be shocked. At all. LOL.
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Dr Plip on May 3, 2014 12:54:54 GMT 1, "those artwork made available had strict caveats placed on them - that upon purchase they would be donated back for public display"
I have a feeling that if any of the pieces were actually for sale, this may have put a few buyers off.
So now the street art is quite literally going underground. Where no doubt they'll be tearing down and cleaning up the graffiti in the old tube station, to be replaced with some highly valued graffiti.
The school trips could be interesting....
"..2082"
Educator-tron 3000: "And if you set your ocular implants to your left, this work represents children physically at play. Many years ago, children were able to go outside and move freely."
Child 1: "What does that one over there mean, sir?"
Educator-tron 3000: "Ahh, that, Child 1, is a piece that encouraged the public to engage in sexual relations with animals of the Sus genus. It is believed that many people, before the Google Wars, suffered from social isolation, resulting in an inability to relate to their own kind. Many formed attachments to pets, livestock and minerals."
Child 2: "What's Banksy sir?"
Educator-tron 3000: "Banksy was an urban art terrorist. He was the creator of many of these wonderful pieces that you see around you."
Child 1: "Was he one of the famous?"
Educator-tron 3000: "Yes he was. He's the reason why a lot of this artwork was preserved underground for future generations."
Child 3: "I thought they were put underground because they were valuable, sir? To stop the ords from taking them away?"
Educator-tron 3000: "That's correct child 3. In 2022, it was decreed that the ordinaries couldn't be trusted with valuable things. And that valuable things were ultimately a distraction from their busy lives and resulted in lower productivity in the stacking mines."
Child 1: "What's that picture over there, sir?"
Educator-tron 3000: "That, Child 1, is a cock and balls."
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"those artwork made available had strict caveats placed on them - that upon purchase they would be donated back for public display"
I have a feeling that if any of the pieces were actually for sale, this may have put a few buyers off.
So now the street art is quite literally going underground. Where no doubt they'll be tearing down and cleaning up the graffiti in the old tube station, to be replaced with some highly valued graffiti.
The school trips could be interesting....
"..2082"
Educator-tron 3000: "And if you set your ocular implants to your left, this work represents children physically at play. Many years ago, children were able to go outside and move freely."
Child 1: "What does that one over there mean, sir?"
Educator-tron 3000: "Ahh, that, Child 1, is a piece that encouraged the public to engage in sexual relations with animals of the Sus genus. It is believed that many people, before the Google Wars, suffered from social isolation, resulting in an inability to relate to their own kind. Many formed attachments to pets, livestock and minerals."
Child 2: "What's Banksy sir?"
Educator-tron 3000: "Banksy was an urban art terrorist. He was the creator of many of these wonderful pieces that you see around you."
Child 1: "Was he one of the famous?"
Educator-tron 3000: "Yes he was. He's the reason why a lot of this artwork was preserved underground for future generations."
Child 3: "I thought they were put underground because they were valuable, sir? To stop the ords from taking them away?"
Educator-tron 3000: "That's correct child 3. In 2022, it was decreed that the ordinaries couldn't be trusted with valuable things. And that valuable things were ultimately a distraction from their busy lives and resulted in lower productivity in the stacking mines."
Child 1: "What's that picture over there, sir?"
Educator-tron 3000: "That, Child 1, is a cock and balls."
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Prescription Art on May 3, 2014 13:51:22 GMT 1, =========================================================== The Sincura Arts Club would like to thank the hundreds of people who attended, and the thousands of people who discussed, the recent STEALING BANKSY? exhibition in London. We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale. What is more, those artwork made available had strict caveats placed on them - that upon purchase they would be donated back for public display, and that the proceeds from any sale would benefit local charities. As a company we where approached at the start of this project to explore the feasibility of the creation of the world's first Street Art Museum in the heart of London. We believe strongly that street art is an important part of the modern day art movement and should be recognised as such. Established museums do not have budgets allocated for the preservation of such art and school curriculums shun the subject. We were tasked to prove that there was a demand for this, for the artwork to remain on view, for the conservation of the art, and as a public debate. This is why we called the show STEALING BANKSY? with the goals to explore the social, legal and moral side of the sale of street art. Our goal was not to answer questions but to ask them to the general public. The show saw a huge amount of public opinion, both good and bad, and proved that as a nation we do feel attached to this form of artwork. Our tours during the show where aimed at explaining the work we do and to engage the public for their opinions on the street art movement. And the positive feedback was tremendous. As such we are in advanced negotiations with The Old London Underground Company to convert a disused London underground station into the first ever Street Art Museum in the world. The Street Art Museum will be a working museum providing educational services to schools, showcasing preserved works, and highlighting up-and-coming artists. Much like the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition, the museum will support a number of local charities. Much of the artwork on display at the STEALING BANKSY? will be donated back to the museum. We did not mean to pull the wool over people's eyes but we were under strict instructions by our event patriarch to operate the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition under the guise of it being a sale of popular street art. By showing the negatives we hoped the positives would shine through, which it did. We do not claim that by running this event, and through our long term activities, we are above public opinion and criticism. However, we are actively working towards ensuring street art does become a recognised art form, that pieces are preserved and remain available for public view, and that the local community benefits from our actions. We anticipate the London Street Art Museum to be open within 12 months and we thank the public for their engagement in this project. Tony Baxter Director The Sincura Group Proud Winners of Concierge Company of The Year 2013 - London Lifestyle Awards T: 0844 *** **** M: 07525 *** ****
Translation: "Shit, we couldn't sell anything and now have to find somewhere to store loads of concrete walls. Anyone have any ideas for a plan B?"
If there was ever to be a 'street art museum' in London, let's just pray that these c**t have nothing to do with it.
=========================================================== The Sincura Arts Club would like to thank the hundreds of people who attended, and the thousands of people who discussed, the recent STEALING BANKSY? exhibition in London. We can now reveal the truths behind the show. STEALING BANKSY? was never created as a sale of street art, and in fact many of the pieces displayed were not actually available for sale. What is more, those artwork made available had strict caveats placed on them - that upon purchase they would be donated back for public display, and that the proceeds from any sale would benefit local charities. As a company we where approached at the start of this project to explore the feasibility of the creation of the world's first Street Art Museum in the heart of London. We believe strongly that street art is an important part of the modern day art movement and should be recognised as such. Established museums do not have budgets allocated for the preservation of such art and school curriculums shun the subject. We were tasked to prove that there was a demand for this, for the artwork to remain on view, for the conservation of the art, and as a public debate. This is why we called the show STEALING BANKSY? with the goals to explore the social, legal and moral side of the sale of street art. Our goal was not to answer questions but to ask them to the general public. The show saw a huge amount of public opinion, both good and bad, and proved that as a nation we do feel attached to this form of artwork. Our tours during the show where aimed at explaining the work we do and to engage the public for their opinions on the street art movement. And the positive feedback was tremendous. As such we are in advanced negotiations with The Old London Underground Company to convert a disused London underground station into the first ever Street Art Museum in the world. The Street Art Museum will be a working museum providing educational services to schools, showcasing preserved works, and highlighting up-and-coming artists. Much like the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition, the museum will support a number of local charities. Much of the artwork on display at the STEALING BANKSY? will be donated back to the museum. We did not mean to pull the wool over people's eyes but we were under strict instructions by our event patriarch to operate the STEALING BANKSY? exhibition under the guise of it being a sale of popular street art. By showing the negatives we hoped the positives would shine through, which it did. We do not claim that by running this event, and through our long term activities, we are above public opinion and criticism. However, we are actively working towards ensuring street art does become a recognised art form, that pieces are preserved and remain available for public view, and that the local community benefits from our actions. We anticipate the London Street Art Museum to be open within 12 months and we thank the public for their engagement in this project. Tony Baxter Director The Sincura Group Proud Winners of Concierge Company of The Year 2013 - London Lifestyle Awards T: 0844 *** **** M: 07525 *** **** Translation: "Shit, we couldn't sell anything and now have to find somewhere to store loads of concrete walls. Anyone have any ideas for a plan B?" If there was ever to be a 'street art museum' in London, let's just pray that these c**t have nothing to do with it.
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Unica
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by Unica on May 3, 2014 15:02:28 GMT 1, Hmm, I find it hard to believe that the property owners agreed to have what is arguably valuable and rare artwork ripped from their walls to then be put up in a fake auction to eventually then be put in a non existent museum. If the property owners truly wanted the pieces to be enjoyed by the public they could easily of left them in place and covered them in some plexi to preserve them. I don't blame the property owners for trying to sell the pieces its their property they didn't ask for the Banksy on the wall, so to them its a bit of a windfall and they have their own bills to pay so fair enough. Didn't Sincura sell the Slave Labour piece at a private auction for a reported £500k, seems odd to me that now they would be concerned about a museum. Just a lot of nonsense. I reckon the auction was a complete flop and they spent some cash ripping out those walls, so to save face they are talking about a museum. Who is going to give them a station to place artwork that was already free on the streets. I met the chap from NY in Miami art Basel who was selling the Brooklyn Balloon piece, he was gutted it didn't sell when I met him the last day of the fair. Cost him a fortune to ship it to Miami, then he has to get it back to NY. I think he wanted close to $400k for that tagged up balloon. I think they may think twice about ripping out these massive walls in future, I still think smaller pieces will be fair game like mobile lovers as they are easily transportable. But must be a headache now for them all, I'm sure the property owner are not to happy. I'd be interested to hear from one of them.
Hmm, I find it hard to believe that the property owners agreed to have what is arguably valuable and rare artwork ripped from their walls to then be put up in a fake auction to eventually then be put in a non existent museum. If the property owners truly wanted the pieces to be enjoyed by the public they could easily of left them in place and covered them in some plexi to preserve them. I don't blame the property owners for trying to sell the pieces its their property they didn't ask for the Banksy on the wall, so to them its a bit of a windfall and they have their own bills to pay so fair enough. Didn't Sincura sell the Slave Labour piece at a private auction for a reported £500k, seems odd to me that now they would be concerned about a museum. Just a lot of nonsense. I reckon the auction was a complete flop and they spent some cash ripping out those walls, so to save face they are talking about a museum. Who is going to give them a station to place artwork that was already free on the streets. I met the chap from NY in Miami art Basel who was selling the Brooklyn Balloon piece, he was gutted it didn't sell when I met him the last day of the fair. Cost him a fortune to ship it to Miami, then he has to get it back to NY. I think he wanted close to $400k for that tagged up balloon. I think they may think twice about ripping out these massive walls in future, I still think smaller pieces will be fair game like mobile lovers as they are easily transportable. But must be a headache now for them all, I'm sure the property owner are not to happy. I'd be interested to hear from one of them.
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joncoo
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by joncoo on May 5, 2014 1:00:26 GMT 1,
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joncoo
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Sincura / Banksys sale starts today., by joncoo on May 5, 2014 1:02:45 GMT 1,
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