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COA held to ransom, by Deleted on May 21, 2014 22:57:15 GMT 1, I think Sohohoho is a pretty cool bloke.
I think Sohohoho is a pretty cool bloke.
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kenzler
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COA held to ransom, by kenzler on May 21, 2014 23:00:56 GMT 1, Well at least your upfront about your reasons mate. If he PM's send it on if you can. If he don't then who ever buys this bast contact seller 2
Out of interest what print was it anyway?
Edit its "nose" and the only one on the bay
Well at least your upfront about your reasons mate. If he PM's send it on if you can. If he don't then who ever buys this bast contact seller 2 Out of interest what print was it anyway? Edit its "nose" and the only one on the bay
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COA held to ransom, by fnord on May 21, 2014 23:02:47 GMT 1, Well at least your upfront about your reasons mate. If he PM's send it on if you can. If he don't then who ever buys this bast contact seller 2 Out of interest what print was it anyway? Bast The Nose. Already had regrets about selling it, now I really do.
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Well obviously he's never lied to you for money.
Well at least your upfront about your reasons mate. If he PM's send it on if you can. If he don't then who ever buys this bast contact seller 2 Out of interest what print was it anyway? Bast The Nose. Already had regrets about selling it, now I really do. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Slammer said: Well obviously he's never lied to you for money.
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COA held to ransom, by Deleted on May 21, 2014 23:08:14 GMT 1, Well at least your upfront about your reasons mate. If he PM's send it on if you can. If he don't then who ever buys this bast contact seller 2 Out of interest what print was it anyway? Bast The Nose. Already had regrets about selling it, now I really do. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Slammer said: Well obviously he's never lied to you for money. Nope. If you gave him the COA this wouldn't have happened. I personally don't see what all the fuss is about COA's. If someone forges a print. I am sure they'll be able to forge a COA.
Well at least your upfront about your reasons mate. If he PM's send it on if you can. If he don't then who ever buys this bast contact seller 2 Out of interest what print was it anyway? Bast The Nose. Already had regrets about selling it, now I really do. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Slammer said: Well obviously he's never lied to you for money. Nope. If you gave him the COA this wouldn't have happened. I personally don't see what all the fuss is about COA's. If someone forges a print. I am sure they'll be able to forge a COA.
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COA held to ransom, by fnord on May 21, 2014 23:11:28 GMT 1, Technically he lied to someone about the COA before I ever had it, so no, there's nothing I could have done to stop him from being shady.
My lie was of omission and I'm cool making it right. Also I completely agree with you about not knowing what the COA fuss is. This is print is printed with sand, good luck forging that. But you try and be upfront with people about that and the offers plummet.
Technically he lied to someone about the COA before I ever had it, so no, there's nothing I could have done to stop him from being shady.
My lie was of omission and I'm cool making it right. Also I completely agree with you about not knowing what the COA fuss is. This is print is printed with sand, good luck forging that. But you try and be upfront with people about that and the offers plummet.
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COA held to ransom, by Deleted on May 21, 2014 23:25:27 GMT 1, Right ok, I have a solution, i'll give you a tenner for the coa, sohoho gives me 20 for it, I'll get sohohos address and you can ship it direct to him (to save me any hassle ) so yous dont have to deal with each other directly....everybodys happy Job Done.
Right ok, I have a solution, i'll give you a tenner for the coa, sohoho gives me 20 for it, I'll get sohohos address and you can ship it direct to him (to save me any hassle ) so yous dont have to deal with each other directly....everybodys happy Job Done.
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COA held to ransom, by fnord on May 21, 2014 23:27:07 GMT 1, Right ok, I have a solution, i'll give you a tenner for the coa, sohoho gives me 20 for it, I'll get sohohos address and you can ship it direct to him (to save me any hassle ) so yous dont have to deal with each other directly....everybodys happy Job Done. Haha, that's an interesting ploy.
I've also thought about listing the COA for sale and when people ask about the print I say it never came with one
Right ok, I have a solution, i'll give you a tenner for the coa, sohoho gives me 20 for it, I'll get sohohos address and you can ship it direct to him (to save me any hassle ) so yous dont have to deal with each other directly....everybodys happy Job Done. Haha, that's an interesting ploy. I've also thought about listing the COA for sale and when people ask about the print I say it never came with one
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COA held to ransom, by brownbuffalo13 on May 21, 2014 23:27:32 GMT 1, If you don't know what the fuss is about the COA why are you claiming that he is shady for not reveling the full details about the COA? seems like you have a bad case of seller's remorse.
If you don't know what the fuss is about the COA why are you claiming that he is shady for not reveling the full details about the COA? seems like you have a bad case of seller's remorse.
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COA held to ransom, by Deleted on May 21, 2014 23:28:43 GMT 1, Right ok, I have a solution, i'll give you a tenner for the coa, sohoho gives me 20 for it, I'll get sohohos address and you can ship it direct to him (to save me any hassle ) so yous dont have to deal with each other directly....everybodys happy Job Done. Best solution ever. Do it.
Right ok, I have a solution, i'll give you a tenner for the coa, sohoho gives me 20 for it, I'll get sohohos address and you can ship it direct to him (to save me any hassle ) so yous dont have to deal with each other directly....everybodys happy Job Done. Best solution ever. Do it.
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COA held to ransom, by met on May 21, 2014 23:29:55 GMT 1, Technically he lied to someone about the COA before I ever had it, so no, there's nothing I could have done to stop him from being shady. My lie was of omission and I'm cool making it right. Also I completely agree with you about not knowing what the COA fuss is. This is print is printed with sand, good luck forging that. But you try and be upfront with people about that and the offers plummet. It never ceases to amaze me how one's perception of a story and initial thoughts can change so dramatically upon also hearing the other side.
Based on your description, it does sound like this sohohoho / purplehairedhoney character is a liar, cynically deceiving potential buyers for financial gain. Despicable behaviour. And quite sad, in a pathetic kind of way. He certainly wasn't transparent about this in his original post.
Your cautionary tale, assuming it's accurate and not misleading, is helpful to collectors who may have possible dealings with the man in the future.
As for the Certificate of Authenticity, this belongs with the artwork. If sohohoho asks for the COA, provides his address details and covers your P&P expenses, it should be passed on to him.
Technically he lied to someone about the COA before I ever had it, so no, there's nothing I could have done to stop him from being shady. My lie was of omission and I'm cool making it right. Also I completely agree with you about not knowing what the COA fuss is. This is print is printed with sand, good luck forging that. But you try and be upfront with people about that and the offers plummet. It never ceases to amaze me how one's perception of a story and initial thoughts can change so dramatically upon also hearing the other side. Based on your description, it does sound like this sohohoho / purplehairedhoney character is a liar, cynically deceiving potential buyers for financial gain. Despicable behaviour. And quite sad, in a pathetic kind of way. He certainly wasn't transparent about this in his original post. Your cautionary tale, assuming it's accurate and not misleading, is helpful to collectors who may have possible dealings with the man in the future. As for the Certificate of Authenticity, this belongs with the artwork. If sohohoho asks for the COA, provides his address details and covers your P&P expenses, it should be passed on to him.
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COA held to ransom, by fnord on May 21, 2014 23:30:46 GMT 1, If you don't know what the fuss is about the COA why are you claiming that he is shady for not reveling the full details about the COA? seems like you have a bad case of seller's remorse. Read the last sentence. I don't know what the fuss is about but I acknowledge that the market makes it a big deal and when you make sure people are aware that it's missing the COA their monetary offers drop.
And with that I'm talking too much for no good reason. Sohohoho I await your PM, here or on eBay or wherever.
If you don't know what the fuss is about the COA why are you claiming that he is shady for not reveling the full details about the COA? seems like you have a bad case of seller's remorse. Read the last sentence. I don't know what the fuss is about but I acknowledge that the market makes it a big deal and when you make sure people are aware that it's missing the COA their monetary offers drop. And with that I'm talking too much for no good reason. Sohohoho I await your PM, here or on eBay or wherever.
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kenzler
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COA held to ransom, by kenzler on May 21, 2014 23:31:55 GMT 1, If you don't know what the fuss is about the COA why are you claiming that he is shady for not reveling the full details about the COA? seems like you have a bad case of seller's remorse. I took it that he had a great price without the COA and now trying to sell for more claiming it didn't have one. Id agree on the seller remorse thing as well as it's lovely. Im sticking with contact seller 2 for COA and crack on with life both
If you don't know what the fuss is about the COA why are you claiming that he is shady for not reveling the full details about the COA? seems like you have a bad case of seller's remorse. I took it that he had a great price without the COA and now trying to sell for more claiming it didn't have one. Id agree on the seller remorse thing as well as it's lovely. Im sticking with contact seller 2 for COA and crack on with life both
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COA held to ransom, by sohohoho on May 21, 2014 23:40:48 GMT 1, Sorry for the delay in responding, I had to leave for a night shift. I see fnord continues to question my integrity. I've said to potential buyers that a COA was never originally issued with this edition but to contact Bast if they had any doubts about it's authenticity. How on earth does that qualify as shady or a lie to extort money? I've still got all the PM's we exchanged back in January 2013 and there is no talk of a COA. I bought it for the asking price with no terms and conditions, no doubts it was genuine and no need for a COA. Offering it to streetartfan in September 2013 does not equal "a month or two later". It was mine to do what I wanted with and offering it to someone eight months later was my prerogative. I only found out about the COA today when he decided to taunt me over eBay along with his expressobeans pals. There was no point me asking him for the COA as he said he was going to "hold onto it". Sounds like he's changed his mind now though so I'll drop him a PM with my address. I'm proud of the way I do buy/sell and I can roll off a list of references the height of me should anyone doubt. Cheers.
Sorry for the delay in responding, I had to leave for a night shift. I see fnord continues to question my integrity. I've said to potential buyers that a COA was never originally issued with this edition but to contact Bast if they had any doubts about it's authenticity. How on earth does that qualify as shady or a lie to extort money? I've still got all the PM's we exchanged back in January 2013 and there is no talk of a COA. I bought it for the asking price with no terms and conditions, no doubts it was genuine and no need for a COA. Offering it to streetartfan in September 2013 does not equal "a month or two later". It was mine to do what I wanted with and offering it to someone eight months later was my prerogative. I only found out about the COA today when he decided to taunt me over eBay along with his expressobeans pals. There was no point me asking him for the COA as he said he was going to "hold onto it". Sounds like he's changed his mind now though so I'll drop him a PM with my address. I'm proud of the way I do buy/sell and I can roll off a list of references the height of me should anyone doubt. Cheers.
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COA held to ransom, by fnord on May 21, 2014 23:45:12 GMT 1, Yeah I lied, I cant just leave.
Here's my original listing. I guess there is room for interpretation but wtf would I make sure to say that I asked for a COA if it never came with one?
urbanartassociation.com/thread/102596/keyes-liqen-phlegm-lowest-prices
Could all just be a misunderstanding, but I've never had an issue like this before.
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COA held to ransom, by Deleted on May 21, 2014 23:49:43 GMT 1, Shouldn't you all be signing up to some utterly meaningless dreary picture of woman falling rather than talking utterly meaningless dreary shit on this thread?
Shouldn't you all be signing up to some utterly meaningless dreary picture of woman falling rather than talking utterly meaningless dreary shit on this thread?
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kenzler
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COA held to ransom, by kenzler on May 21, 2014 23:50:52 GMT 1, Id be gutted selling it at that price as well
Id be gutted selling it at that price as well
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COA held to ransom, by sohohoho on May 21, 2014 23:51:15 GMT 1, LOL. Thanks for jogging my memory. Not once did you tell me that you were the second owner. I was under the impression that you were the original owner (until today) and that the print never originally came with a COA but you had requested one from Bast. Obviously a misunderstanding but damn, calling me shady and a liar? I could call you the same for never disclosing that you were actually the second owner. This is all pretty pathetic but interesting none the less.
LOL. Thanks for jogging my memory. Not once did you tell me that you were the second owner. I was under the impression that you were the original owner (until today) and that the print never originally came with a COA but you had requested one from Bast. Obviously a misunderstanding but damn, calling me shady and a liar? I could call you the same for never disclosing that you were actually the second owner. This is all pretty pathetic but interesting none the less.
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COA held to ransom, by curiousgeorge on May 21, 2014 23:54:37 GMT 1, Technically he lied to someone about the COA before I ever had it, so no, there's nothing I could have done to stop him from being shady. My lie was of omission and I'm cool making it right. Also I completely agree with you about not knowing what the COA fuss is. This is print is printed with sand, good luck forging that. But you try and be upfront with people about that and the offers plummet. It never ceases to amaze me how one's perception of a story and initial thoughts can change so dramatically upon also hearing the other side. Based on your description, it does sound like this sohohoho / purplehairedhoney character is a liar, cynically deceiving potential buyers for financial gain. Despicable behaviour. And quite sad, in a pathetic kind of way. He certainly wasn't transparent about this in his original post. Your cautionary tale, assuming it's accurate and not misleading, is helpful to collectors who may have possible dealings with the man in the future. As for the Certificate of Authenticity, this belongs with the artwork. If sohohoho asks for the COA, provides his address details and covers your P&P expenses, it should be passed on to him. From a member that has alluded to being part of the met police when the thread is relevant.Almost sad, in a pathetic kind of way.
Sohoho is a TOP TOP fella
Technically he lied to someone about the COA before I ever had it, so no, there's nothing I could have done to stop him from being shady. My lie was of omission and I'm cool making it right. Also I completely agree with you about not knowing what the COA fuss is. This is print is printed with sand, good luck forging that. But you try and be upfront with people about that and the offers plummet. It never ceases to amaze me how one's perception of a story and initial thoughts can change so dramatically upon also hearing the other side. Based on your description, it does sound like this sohohoho / purplehairedhoney character is a liar, cynically deceiving potential buyers for financial gain. Despicable behaviour. And quite sad, in a pathetic kind of way. He certainly wasn't transparent about this in his original post. Your cautionary tale, assuming it's accurate and not misleading, is helpful to collectors who may have possible dealings with the man in the future. As for the Certificate of Authenticity, this belongs with the artwork. If sohohoho asks for the COA, provides his address details and covers your P&P expenses, it should be passed on to him. From a member that has alluded to being part of the met police when the thread is relevant.Almost sad, in a pathetic kind of way. Sohoho is a TOP TOP fella
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COA held to ransom, by spirit on May 22, 2014 2:30:27 GMT 1, fnord - I think you shot yourself in the foot just now when you posted your original for sale thread.
I would have interpreted that exactly as Sohoho did - i.e. that the print was not issued with a COA and you had contacted Bast to see if you could get one.
Personally I think you should send Sohoho the COA along with a note of apology as he has done nothing wrong whatsoever.
fnord - I think you shot yourself in the foot just now when you posted your original for sale thread.
I would have interpreted that exactly as Sohoho did - i.e. that the print was not issued with a COA and you had contacted Bast to see if you could get one.
Personally I think you should send Sohoho the COA along with a note of apology as he has done nothing wrong whatsoever.
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COA held to ransom, by fnord on May 22, 2014 2:36:19 GMT 1, Sohohoho and I have been talking and it seems clear it was a misunderstanding.
Sohohoho and I have been talking and it seems clear it was a misunderstanding.
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COA held to ransom, by sohohoho on May 22, 2014 2:42:45 GMT 1, Guys, fnord has apologised, as have I for any offence caused by selling the print. He has also offered to forward the COA so that's the issue settled in my book. Hopefully Wearology can lock this thread up. Cheers.
Guys, fnord has apologised, as have I for any offence caused by selling the print. He has also offered to forward the COA so that's the issue settled in my book. Hopefully Wearology can lock this thread up. Cheers.
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