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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by samfrost on Nov 9, 2014 21:40:34 GMT 1, 
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Dr Plip on Nov 9, 2014 23:43:29 GMT 1, whoa...have a load of posts gone missing ?
whoa...have a load of posts gone missing ? Have the legal team been in again? |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Wearology on Nov 10, 2014 0:12:58 GMT 1, I work in the fashion industry and there are no copyright laws.
This is the headline from a recent article where a law was almost
passed protecting designers, but never made it into law.
FASHION DESIGNS AREN'T PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT LAW, SO KNOCKOFFS THRIVE AS DESIGNERS SUFFER
I work in the fashion industry and there are no copyright laws.
This is the headline from a recent article where a law was almost
passed protecting designers, but never made it into law.
FASHION DESIGNS AREN'T PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT LAW, SO KNOCKOFFS THRIVE AS DESIGNERS SUFFER
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Fairxat on Nov 10, 2014 0:37:32 GMT 1, Who posted the first link association between the two pieces ? Too many pages now to troll through
Who posted the first link association between the two pieces ? Too many pages now to troll through
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 10, 2014 1:03:57 GMT 1, Well this did get interesting.
Well this did get interesting.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by samfrost on Nov 10, 2014 2:08:25 GMT 1, Quite a rapid set of developments. First, MW fans went into denial, then rationalization and now ignoring blatant copyright violations as "art". Next step will be "I love it, still keeping it on my wall".
Unfortunately, this certainly can't help MW's future...just another lesson to be careful when evaluating an artist. I am sure that MW is a nice chap, however I have failed to observe exactly what is so mind-blowing about a few squiggles on stock images?!? Sad to see so many people flush money down the drain on crap art.
Quite a rapid set of developments. First, MW fans went into denial, then rationalization and now ignoring blatant copyright violations as "art". Next step will be "I love it, still keeping it on my wall".
Unfortunately, this certainly can't help MW's future...just another lesson to be careful when evaluating an artist. I am sure that MW is a nice chap, however I have failed to observe exactly what is so mind-blowing about a few squiggles on stock images?!? Sad to see so many people flush money down the drain on crap art.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by thomasmer on Nov 10, 2014 4:33:10 GMT 1, Bunch of Daily Mail readers.
It all comes down to, if you're going to break the law and rob shit, DON"T USE YOUR REAL FUCKING NAME.
Bunch of Daily Mail readers.
It all comes down to, if you're going to break the law and rob shit, DON"T USE YOUR REAL FUCKING NAME.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by thomasmer on Nov 10, 2014 4:34:40 GMT 1, Good to hear everyones 2cents but at the end of the day martin has been caught being lazy and a little bit naughty, we all know everyone one does it to some degree but it must be pretty embarrassing to be caught out for the world to see but then again he probably doesn't give a s**t.
Good to hear everyones 2cents but at the end of the day martin has been caught being lazy and a little bit naughty, we all know everyone one does it to some degree but it must be pretty embarrassing to be caught out for the world to see but then again he probably doesn't give a s**t. Why would he give a shit, everyone in this whole genre has stolen images from google images, its the foundation of this movement. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 4:59:15 GMT 1, But thats the difference, stealing from Google images photography vs stealing Fine Art.
But thats the difference, stealing from Google images photography vs stealing Fine Art.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by johnnyh on Nov 10, 2014 5:22:16 GMT 1, Quite a rapid set of developments. First, MW fans went into denial, then rationalization and now ignoring blatant copyright violations as "art". Next step will be "I love it, still keeping it on my wall". Unfortunately, this certainly can't help MW's future...just another lesson to be careful when evaluating an artist. I am sure that MW is a nice chap, however I have failed to observe exactly what is so mind-blowing about a few squiggles on stock images?!? Sad to see so many people flush money down the drain on crap art.
Must say at this point I do not have or particularly like any of the tagging stuff and don't own any etc just an ER canvas
You and Natsan do like to gloat don't you?
like its a big end etc. this is nothing ---the worst that will happen is that Martin will need to pay a slice of what he earned. The pieces are the same they have the same value whether he had permission or not.
i would be very surprised if anyone thought he free drew the dancer etc. just as I never thought he photographed the space man.
likewise never thought Banksy took the photo's he makes his stencils from etc.
its not a criminal offense it's a copyright issue/ infringement at best. Likewise did not see anyone stop using their apple or Samsung Phones due to their copyright violations on each other.
so yes it's a bit wrong but not much to be honest. The piece became his piece based on the tagging and look etc it uses the same image in that he took his stencil but it is not an exact replica. So I assume he will just carry on exactly as before but either create his own, use unprotected images or gain permission etc
then em that's it really
If Ryoung contacts them then something will be either agreed or not agreed. May be legal etc it will go one way or another. But it's a percentage of the profit....that's it nothing more nothing less
Quite a rapid set of developments. First, MW fans went into denial, then rationalization and now ignoring blatant copyright violations as "art". Next step will be "I love it, still keeping it on my wall". Unfortunately, this certainly can't help MW's future...just another lesson to be careful when evaluating an artist. I am sure that MW is a nice chap, however I have failed to observe exactly what is so mind-blowing about a few squiggles on stock images?!? Sad to see so many people flush money down the drain on crap art. Dear dear me!!! Must say at this point I do not have or particularly like any of the tagging stuff and don't own any etc just an ER canvas You and Natsan do like to gloat don't you? like its a big end etc. this is nothing ---the worst that will happen is that Martin will need to pay a slice of what he earned. The pieces are the same they have the same value whether he had permission or not. i would be very surprised if anyone thought he free drew the dancer etc. just as I never thought he photographed the space man. likewise never thought Banksy took the photo's he makes his stencils from etc. its not a criminal offense it's a copyright issue/ infringement at best. Likewise did not see anyone stop using their apple or Samsung Phones due to their copyright violations on each other. so yes it's a bit wrong but not much to be honest. The piece became his piece based on the tagging and look etc it uses the same image in that he took his stencil but it is not an exact replica. So I assume he will just carry on exactly as before but either create his own, use unprotected images or gain permission etc then em that's it really If Ryoung contacts them then something will be either agreed or not agreed. May be legal etc it will go one way or another. But it's a percentage of the profit....that's it nothing more nothing less |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by mrkyuss on Nov 10, 2014 6:21:29 GMT 1, Monkey face !
Monkey face !
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by gatecrasher on Nov 10, 2014 6:46:14 GMT 1, Time to call in the police I think.
Time to call in the police I think. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by johnnyh on Nov 10, 2014 7:03:32 GMT 1, Fuckin hell next people will be spraying on other peoples walls without permission.
Fuckin hell next people will be spraying on other peoples walls without permission.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by bone on Nov 10, 2014 7:21:13 GMT 1, f**kin hell next people will be spraying on other peoples walls without permission.
f**kin hell next people will be spraying on other peoples walls without permission. Best comment of the whole thread |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by natstan on Nov 10, 2014 7:41:06 GMT 1, Quite a rapid set of developments. First, MW fans went into denial, then rationalization and now ignoring blatant copyright violations as "art". Next step will be "I love it, still keeping it on my wall". Unfortunately, this certainly can't help MW's future...just another lesson to be careful when evaluating an artist. I am sure that MW is a nice chap, however I have failed to observe exactly what is so mind-blowing about a few squiggles on stock images?!? Sad to see so many people flush money down the drain on crap art. Dear dear me!!! Must say at this point I do not have or particularly like any of the tagging stuff and don't own any etc just an ER canvas You and Natsan do like to gloat don't you? like its a big end etc. this is nothing ---the worst that will happen is that Martin will need to pay a slice of what he earned. The pieces are the same they have the same value whether he had permission or not. i would be very surprised if anyone thought he free drew the dancer etc. just as I never thought he photographed the space man. likewise never thought Banksy took the photo's he makes his stencils from etc. its not a criminal offense it's a copyright issue/ infringement at best. Likewise did not see anyone stop using their apple or Samsung Phones due to their copyright violations on each other. so yes it's a bit wrong but not much to be honest. The piece became his piece based on the tagging and look etc it uses the same image in that he took his stencil but it is not an exact replica. So I assume he will just carry on exactly as before but either create his own, use unprotected images or gain permission etc then em that's it really If Ryoung contacts them then something will be either agreed or not agreed. May be legal etc it will go one way or another. But it's a percentage of the profit....that's it nothing more nothing less
Dude, that is so wrong. I did not gloat and seriously, I can't even be bothered to reply to your previous reply on my post anymore as I don't find a bicker with you will result in anything fruitful, or that it will change facts. You seem like the kind who only believe what you chose to believe in.
You make it sound like you are the artist defending yourself. Nobody said MW's career is over, (as you assume people are inferring that) but I just thought it will be harder road for him to continue his work methodlogy this way in the future in view of this copyright issue. I don't nessarily think that people will stop buying his works.
I am just being honest about my thoughts and opinions on this forum. If you have a vested interest in this artist, I can understand your position. If not, I really have no clue why you need to be so worked up behind a monitor screen in your little virtual world. Else, PM me and let me know what is your problem with me.
Quite a rapid set of developments. First, MW fans went into denial, then rationalization and now ignoring blatant copyright violations as "art". Next step will be "I love it, still keeping it on my wall". Unfortunately, this certainly can't help MW's future...just another lesson to be careful when evaluating an artist. I am sure that MW is a nice chap, however I have failed to observe exactly what is so mind-blowing about a few squiggles on stock images?!? Sad to see so many people flush money down the drain on crap art. Dear dear me!!! Must say at this point I do not have or particularly like any of the tagging stuff and don't own any etc just an ER canvas You and Natsan do like to gloat don't you? like its a big end etc. this is nothing ---the worst that will happen is that Martin will need to pay a slice of what he earned. The pieces are the same they have the same value whether he had permission or not. i would be very surprised if anyone thought he free drew the dancer etc. just as I never thought he photographed the space man. likewise never thought Banksy took the photo's he makes his stencils from etc. its not a criminal offense it's a copyright issue/ infringement at best. Likewise did not see anyone stop using their apple or Samsung Phones due to their copyright violations on each other. so yes it's a bit wrong but not much to be honest. The piece became his piece based on the tagging and look etc it uses the same image in that he took his stencil but it is not an exact replica. So I assume he will just carry on exactly as before but either create his own, use unprotected images or gain permission etc then em that's it really If Ryoung contacts them then something will be either agreed or not agreed. May be legal etc it will go one way or another. But it's a percentage of the profit....that's it nothing more nothing less Dude, that is so wrong. I did not gloat and seriously, I can't even be bothered to reply to your previous reply on my post anymore as I don't find a bicker with you will result in anything fruitful, or that it will change facts. You seem like the kind who only believe what you chose to believe in. You make it sound like you are the artist defending yourself. Nobody said MW's career is over, (as you assume people are inferring that) but I just thought it will be harder road for him to continue his work methodlogy this way in the future in view of this copyright issue. I don't nessarily think that people will stop buying his works. I am just being honest about my thoughts and opinions on this forum. If you have a vested interest in this artist, I can understand your position. If not, I really have no clue why you need to be so worked up behind a monitor screen in your little virtual world. Else, PM me and let me know what is your problem with me. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by natstan on Nov 10, 2014 8:14:52 GMT 1, Dear dear me!!! Must say at this point I do not have or particularly like any of the tagging stuff and don't own any etc just an ER canvas You and Natsan do like to gloat don't you? like its a big end etc. this is nothing ---the worst that will happen is that Martin will need to pay a slice of what he earned. The pieces are the same they have the same value whether he had permission or not. i would be very surprised if anyone thought he free drew the dancer etc. just as I never thought he photographed the space man. likewise never thought Banksy took the photo's he makes his stencils from etc. its not a criminal offense it's a copyright issue/ infringement at best. Likewise did not see anyone stop using their apple or Samsung Phones due to their copyright violations on each other. so yes it's a bit wrong but not much to be honest. The piece became his piece based on the tagging and look etc it uses the same image in that he took his stencil but it is not an exact replica. So I assume he will just carry on exactly as before but either create his own, use unprotected images or gain permission etc then em that's it really If Ryoung contacts them then something will be either agreed or not agreed. May be legal etc it will go one way or another. But it's a percentage of the profit....that's it nothing more nothing less Dude, that is so wrong. I did not gloat and seriously, I can't even be bothered to reply to your previous reply on my post anymore. Why? Because I don't find a bicker with you will result in anything fruitful, or that it will change facts. Also, you seem like the kind who only believe what you chose to believe in. You make it sound like you are the artist defending yourself. Nobody said MW's career is over, (as you assume people are inferring that) but I just thought it will be a harder road for him to continue his work methodlogy this way in the future in view of this copyright and 'duplicated image' issue. I don't neccessarily think that people will stop buying his works. I am just being honest about my thoughts and opinions on this forum. If you have a vested interest in this artist, I can understand your position. If not, I really have no clue why you need to be so worked up behind a monitor screen in your little virtual world. Else, PM me and let me know what is your problem with me.
Dear dear me!!! Must say at this point I do not have or particularly like any of the tagging stuff and don't own any etc just an ER canvas You and Natsan do like to gloat don't you? like its a big end etc. this is nothing ---the worst that will happen is that Martin will need to pay a slice of what he earned. The pieces are the same they have the same value whether he had permission or not. i would be very surprised if anyone thought he free drew the dancer etc. just as I never thought he photographed the space man. likewise never thought Banksy took the photo's he makes his stencils from etc. its not a criminal offense it's a copyright issue/ infringement at best. Likewise did not see anyone stop using their apple or Samsung Phones due to their copyright violations on each other. so yes it's a bit wrong but not much to be honest. The piece became his piece based on the tagging and look etc it uses the same image in that he took his stencil but it is not an exact replica. So I assume he will just carry on exactly as before but either create his own, use unprotected images or gain permission etc then em that's it really If Ryoung contacts them then something will be either agreed or not agreed. May be legal etc it will go one way or another. But it's a percentage of the profit....that's it nothing more nothing less Dude, that is so wrong. I did not gloat and seriously, I can't even be bothered to reply to your previous reply on my post anymore. Why? Because I don't find a bicker with you will result in anything fruitful, or that it will change facts. Also, you seem like the kind who only believe what you chose to believe in. You make it sound like you are the artist defending yourself. Nobody said MW's career is over, (as you assume people are inferring that) but I just thought it will be a harder road for him to continue his work methodlogy this way in the future in view of this copyright and 'duplicated image' issue. I don't neccessarily think that people will stop buying his works. I am just being honest about my thoughts and opinions on this forum. If you have a vested interest in this artist, I can understand your position. If not, I really have no clue why you need to be so worked up behind a monitor screen in your little virtual world. Else, PM me and let me know what is your problem with me. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by johnnyh on Nov 10, 2014 8:43:02 GMT 1, Natsan
Why will it be harder he just needs to find stencils that are not copyright protected or get permission.
Career troubles I actually quoted Sam Frosts post which you had clicked like to so one would assume you agreed with it.
On the contrary I have stated a few time throughout the thread I disagree with using other people's work, I also do not like the tag thing he does etc.
Think it's fair to say that most stencil artists do not create the image in the stencil. Does using two peoples artworks to create two stencils and putting them together to give a different meaning create something unique or is it twice the abuse etc. likewise does using another's image with or without permission make any difference to the artwork.
eg If Martin had permission would it make any difference. Note it is also not clear yet whether he did or he did not have permission.
only CY who says she represents the artist says he did not.
Cy could be fake the stencil may have been made from a photo that was on a free to use site etc
so there are a number of things still not very clear here.
similarly even if all the above is true and it was without permission it may be settled for say eg ยฃ1 a print etc in which case no issue.
so as said earlier not sure it's correct to jump to too many conclusions and two I do not think there is actually much issue as stencil artists use stencils.
bit like Banksy copied the praying boy from Rene G mmm no he didn't they both nicked it from someone's photo.
Natsan
Why will it be harder he just needs to find stencils that are not copyright protected or get permission.
Career troubles I actually quoted Sam Frosts post which you had clicked like to so one would assume you agreed with it.
On the contrary I have stated a few time throughout the thread I disagree with using other people's work, I also do not like the tag thing he does etc.
Think it's fair to say that most stencil artists do not create the image in the stencil. Does using two peoples artworks to create two stencils and putting them together to give a different meaning create something unique or is it twice the abuse etc. likewise does using another's image with or without permission make any difference to the artwork.
eg If Martin had permission would it make any difference. Note it is also not clear yet whether he did or he did not have permission.
only CY who says she represents the artist says he did not.
Cy could be fake the stencil may have been made from a photo that was on a free to use site etc
so there are a number of things still not very clear here.
similarly even if all the above is true and it was without permission it may be settled for say eg ยฃ1 a print etc in which case no issue.
so as said earlier not sure it's correct to jump to too many conclusions and two I do not think there is actually much issue as stencil artists use stencils.
bit like Banksy copied the praying boy from Rene G mmm no he didn't they both nicked it from someone's photo.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by thomasmer on Nov 10, 2014 9:31:46 GMT 1, But thats the difference, stealing from Google images photography vs stealing Fine Art.
But thats the difference, stealing from Google images photography vs stealing Fine Art. Do difference, both are art equally. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Happy Shopper on Nov 10, 2014 10:47:34 GMT 1, Of course many artists steal images to create stencils.
The difference is using an image to say something that wasn't intended in the original image.
Of course many artists steal images to create stencils.
The difference is using an image to say something that wasn't intended in the original image.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by natstan on Nov 10, 2014 11:53:43 GMT 1, Of course many artists steal images to create stencils. The difference is using an image to say something that wasn't intended in the original image.
See johnny? That's what we both agree on.
Anyway, since when did liking a post mean I have to always agree to everything said there??? 
Of course many artists steal images to create stencils. The difference is using an image to say something that wasn't intended in the original image. See johnny? That's what we both agree on. Anyway, since when did liking a post mean I have to always agree to everything said there??? |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by johnnyh on Nov 10, 2014 13:39:16 GMT 1, Of course many artists steal images to create stencils. The difference is using an image to say something that wasn't intended in the original image. See johnny? That's what we both agree on. Anyway, since when did liking a post mean I have to always agree to everything said there???
When I want reply to your posts I'll quote you. I was replying to Sam's post. I said you and Sam like to gloat tour last post kinda proves I was correct....."see Johnny"
Of course many artists steal images to create stencils. The difference is using an image to say something that wasn't intended in the original image. See johnny? That's what we both agree on. Anyway, since when did liking a post mean I have to always agree to everything said there??? When I want reply to your posts I'll quote you. I was replying to Sam's post. I said you and Sam like to gloat tour last post kinda proves I was correct....."see Johnny" |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by monkeyface on Nov 10, 2014 13:54:38 GMT 1, Yes mate?
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by natstan on Nov 10, 2014 14:35:35 GMT 1, See johnny? That's what we both agree on. Anyway, since when did liking a post mean I have to always agree to everything said there??? When I want reply to your posts I'll quote you. I was replying to Sam's post. I said you and Sam like to gloat tour last post kinda proves I was correct....."see Johnny"
Nothing I can do. You believe only what you choose to believe. Yawn... To bed. Night
See johnny? That's what we both agree on. Anyway, since when did liking a post mean I have to always agree to everything said there??? When I want reply to your posts I'll quote you. I was replying to Sam's post. I said you and Sam like to gloat tour last post kinda proves I was correct....."see Johnny" Nothing I can do. You believe only what you choose to believe. Yawn... To bed. Night |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 16:14:01 GMT 1, Well I hope all this hasn't put the flippers off.
I can imagine the future with lots of older people looking back on their collections of various editions by trendy names and thinking why did I buy all this stuff?
Well I hope all this hasn't put the flippers off.
I can imagine the future with lots of older people looking back on their collections of various editions by trendy names and thinking why did I buy all this stuff?
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by johnnyh on Nov 10, 2014 17:44:04 GMT 1, When I want reply to your posts I'll quote you. I was replying to Sam's post. I said you and Sam like to gloat tour last post kinda proves I was correct....."see Johnny" Nothing I can do. You believe only what you choose to believe. Yawn... To bed. Night
When I want reply to your posts I'll quote you. I was replying to Sam's post. I said you and Sam like to gloat tour last post kinda proves I was correct....."see Johnny" Nothing I can do. You believe only what you choose to believe. Yawn... To bed. Night Very true and I do believe your an idiot!!! |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by DREAMERS on Nov 10, 2014 18:06:50 GMT 1, Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe you only have have to change 20% of something that is copyrighted to make it yours.
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe you only have have to change 20% of something that is copyrighted to make it yours.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by johnnyh on Nov 10, 2014 18:49:20 GMT 1, Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe you only have have to change 20% of something that is copyrighted to make it yours.
Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe you only have have to change 20% of something that is copyrighted to make it yours. My pleasure.....Your wrong!!! It just don't work that way. Different countries also have different definitions etc but there is no flat percentage's |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 10, 2014 20:39:34 GMT 1, Too me this is less about whether it is illegal or not. Yes it's illegal to steal images from others but the reality is thatt is a very grey area that can be worked around and we see it all the time.
To me thing is more a case of a well known artist being lazy and taking an image from a lesser known artist which is a real deception.
This isnt Shepard fairly taking an Obama AP image. Or blek using a sybil from the Sistine chapel. Or use of s pop image that many claim is the basis for this type of art genre.
This is worse. Everyone knows those images but here we seem to have an artist taking an image with the thought no one will know because it's from a source not known to many. That is just sad.
Too me this is less about whether it is illegal or not. Yes it's illegal to steal images from others but the reality is thatt is a very grey area that can be worked around and we see it all the time.
To me thing is more a case of a well known artist being lazy and taking an image from a lesser known artist which is a real deception.
This isnt Shepard fairly taking an Obama AP image. Or blek using a sybil from the Sistine chapel. Or use of s pop image that many claim is the basis for this type of art genre.
This is worse. Everyone knows those images but here we seem to have an artist taking an image with the thought no one will know because it's from a source not known to many. That is just sad.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by jlf on Nov 10, 2014 21:20:24 GMT 1, This is worse. Everyone knows those images but here we seem to have an artist taking an image with the thought no one will know because it's from a source not known to many. That is just sad.
This is worse. Everyone knows those images but here we seem to have an artist taking an image with the thought no one will know because it's from a source not known to many. That is just sad. I agree this is the most disappointing bit in the whole thing, it's the way he has just tried to sneak it though. It's somehow not as bad when its obviously stolen and everyone knows it |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by aberdoom on Nov 10, 2014 21:52:50 GMT 1, This has gone much further than it really needed to....
The whole we hate MW and his repetitive tagging has turned into a hate mob saying this is shocking blah blah blah.
This isn't a hangable offence in the UK... If he's out with copyright laws I'm sure there will be consequences, but to me,this is just people jumping on the bandwagon and wanting to shot first and ask questions later! GP has already posted on the thread, and it am sure he will again after the situation has been resolved?
Would the original picture sell out if it was on GP site? I think not...
Did the MW version sell out? He'll yeah and it's a nice image, he's added his part!
If Banksy released this with a gangsta rat in the corner playing the ballet tunes, would people be email Mr Young??
I think not..
My opinion..
Now I'm off to find a thread about a release I don't like and make sure everyone knows about it! Then I'm going to head down Tesco's and shout at everyone who buys baked beans that haven't got the Heinz logo on them!
This has gone much further than it really needed to....
The whole we hate MW and his repetitive tagging has turned into a hate mob saying this is shocking blah blah blah.
This isn't a hangable offence in the UK... If he's out with copyright laws I'm sure there will be consequences, but to me,this is just people jumping on the bandwagon and wanting to shot first and ask questions later! GP has already posted on the thread, and it am sure he will again after the situation has been resolved?
Would the original picture sell out if it was on GP site? I think not...
Did the MW version sell out? He'll yeah and it's a nice image, he's added his part!
If Banksy released this with a gangsta rat in the corner playing the ballet tunes, would people be email Mr Young??
I think not..
My opinion..
Now I'm off to find a thread about a release I don't like and make sure everyone knows about it! Then I'm going to head down Tesco's and shout at everyone who buys baked beans that haven't got the Heinz logo on them!
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