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BANKSY for £1000, by naughtyshorty on Aug 5, 2014 14:27:23 GMT 1, Glad to see this is going forward and congrats to all involved.
Andy, it sounds like the initial thought was to basically get someone a chance to win a banksy, but now, with the opportunity to raise some serious cash for a charity, the focus may be on raising £££ more, right?
My view is ultimately, u cannot control the outcome of who wins the print. Setting rules on who can participate, minimum posts they must have entered, when they must have joined by can more of less be circumvented and before you know it u will have a complex raffle that people both genuine and not can't be involved in. And whoever wins it, what's to stop them from flipping or selling it straight away, regardless of what you get them to sign up to.
If it was me, I would do an open raffle open to anyone in the world who wants to participate. Tickets priced at £10 with no limit. Let's hope it goes viral and you will raise a huge amount for a v well deserving charity and chances are the print will go to a deserving fan. This way is also simpler to organise with less conditions or bureaucracy. And hell, if it goes to a flipper, so what. Happens to PoW continuously despite all their processes so I don't think this forum will be able to develop a more safe proof way.
Above all do what u think is right. This is a great initiative - well done to u and all involved.
Glad to see this is going forward and congrats to all involved.
Andy, it sounds like the initial thought was to basically get someone a chance to win a banksy, but now, with the opportunity to raise some serious cash for a charity, the focus may be on raising £££ more, right?
My view is ultimately, u cannot control the outcome of who wins the print. Setting rules on who can participate, minimum posts they must have entered, when they must have joined by can more of less be circumvented and before you know it u will have a complex raffle that people both genuine and not can't be involved in. And whoever wins it, what's to stop them from flipping or selling it straight away, regardless of what you get them to sign up to.
If it was me, I would do an open raffle open to anyone in the world who wants to participate. Tickets priced at £10 with no limit. Let's hope it goes viral and you will raise a huge amount for a v well deserving charity and chances are the print will go to a deserving fan. This way is also simpler to organise with less conditions or bureaucracy. And hell, if it goes to a flipper, so what. Happens to PoW continuously despite all their processes so I don't think this forum will be able to develop a more safe proof way.
Above all do what u think is right. This is a great initiative - well done to u and all involved.
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BANKSY for £1000, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:17:35 GMT 1, Glad to see this is going forward and congrats to all involved. Andy, it sounds like the initial thought was to basically get someone a chance to win a banksy, but now, with the opportunity to raise some serious cash for a charity, the focus may be on raising £££ more, right? My view is ultimately, u cannot control the outcome of who wins the print. Setting rules on who can participate, minimum posts they must have entered, when they must have joined by can more of less be circumvented and before you know it u will have a complex raffle that people both genuine and not can't be involved in. And whoever wins it, what's to stop them from flipping or selling it straight away, regardless of what you get them to sign up to. If it was me, I would do an open raffle open to anyone in the world who wants to participate. Tickets priced at £10 with no limit. Let's hope it goes viral and you will raise a huge amount for a v well deserving charity and chances are the print will go to a deserving fan. This way is also simpler to organise with less conditions or bureaucracy. And hell, if it goes to a flipper, so what. Happens to PoW continuously despite all their processes so I don't think this forum will be able to develop a more safe proof way. Above all do what u think is right. This is a great initiative - well done to u and all involved.
Glad to see this is going forward and congrats to all involved. Andy, it sounds like the initial thought was to basically get someone a chance to win a banksy, but now, with the opportunity to raise some serious cash for a charity, the focus may be on raising £££ more, right? My view is ultimately, u cannot control the outcome of who wins the print. Setting rules on who can participate, minimum posts they must have entered, when they must have joined by can more of less be circumvented and before you know it u will have a complex raffle that people both genuine and not can't be involved in. And whoever wins it, what's to stop them from flipping or selling it straight away, regardless of what you get them to sign up to. If it was me, I would do an open raffle open to anyone in the world who wants to participate. Tickets priced at £10 with no limit. Let's hope it goes viral and you will raise a huge amount for a v well deserving charity and chances are the print will go to a deserving fan. This way is also simpler to organise with less conditions or bureaucracy. And hell, if it goes to a flipper, so what. Happens to PoW continuously despite all their processes so I don't think this forum will be able to develop a more safe proof way. Above all do what u think is right. This is a great initiative - well done to u and all involved. I think what you're saying is bang on right Naughty, I keep changing my mind on whats the best way to do it, initially it was a simple giveaway to the forum and most likely to a nominated most deserved recipient, now the charitys involved and its getting a lot of support if we took away restrictions on who can buy and how many per person and it went viral which tbh I think it easily could, a huge amount of money could be raised, another very well respected UAA member contacted me via pm and asked if I would like them to make others aware on different art forums they are involved with raising money for charity and I believe if we did this and everyone got involved putting it on Facebook etc etc it could do so well for the charity. I'm only a member on UAA and it was a thank you gesture to the forum members of UAA ie give something back, in a way that has been done as so many have come together as a great community to support a good cause so it has added something positive to the forum. If I did say £10 a ticket anything goes I know we could raise a serious bit of cash but I also know I could end up on the most wanted list but I want to do whats right, also I don't want to loose the support that's there which has been fantastic. I need a time out.....voice your opinion. |
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BANKSY for £1000, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:29:28 GMT 1, maybe state a very optimistic goal? say 4K or so... and have it be 10 each/limit 5, unless you don't hit the goal, then you'd allow people to buy more than 5?
maybe state a very optimistic goal? say 4K or so... and have it be 10 each/limit 5, unless you don't hit the goal, then you'd allow people to buy more than 5?
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BANKSY for £1000, by jayTown on Aug 5, 2014 15:31:54 GMT 1, Got to be something charity related.
Got to be something charity related.
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BANKSY for £1000, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:34:20 GMT 1, As much as I love the idea of go big or go home, Id say opening to UAA forum members only is the best of both worlds. There are enough members here to raise the prints worth and more, and youre also sticking true to your original idea of rewarding the board.
I really liked 5 ticket max, 10GBP ea.
Open to UAA Forum members
Add a section where you can donate more if youd like, and they will.
Still, a great idea, very thoughtful, and this board is awesome.
As much as I love the idea of go big or go home, Id say opening to UAA forum members only is the best of both worlds. There are enough members here to raise the prints worth and more, and youre also sticking true to your original idea of rewarding the board.
I really liked 5 ticket max, 10GBP ea.
Open to UAA Forum members
Add a section where you can donate more if youd like, and they will.
Still, a great idea, very thoughtful, and this board is awesome.
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BANKSY for £1000, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:35:38 GMT 1, Got to be something charity related. 
Got to be something charity related. The charity bit is set in stone Jay 100%, whatever is raised is going to donalwalshlivelife, and the Banksy will be given to the Raffle winner |
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BANKSY for £1000, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:41:38 GMT 1, You'll definitely hit a point of diminishing returns if you open it up outside of UAA; I know I personally won't enter if I know there are more than 400 some-odd tickets being sold, full disclosure.
You'll definitely hit a point of diminishing returns if you open it up outside of UAA; I know I personally won't enter if I know there are more than 400 some-odd tickets being sold, full disclosure.
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BANKSY for £1000, by jayTown on Aug 5, 2014 15:45:55 GMT 1, Got to be something charity related. The charity bit is set in stone Jay 100%, whatever is raised is going to donalwalshlivelife, and the Banksy will be given to the Raffle winner
Got to be something charity related. The charity bit is set in stone Jay 100%, whatever is raised is going to donalwalshlivelife, and the Banksy will be given to the Raffle winner Amazing. Love seeing this kind of stuff on the forum, nice one. |
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BANKSY for £1000, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 16:37:02 GMT 1, Glad to see this is going forward and congrats to all involved. Andy, it sounds like the initial thought was to basically get someone a chance to win a banksy, but now, with the opportunity to raise some serious cash for a charity, the focus may be on raising £££ more, right? My view is ultimately, u cannot control the outcome of who wins the print. Setting rules on who can participate, minimum posts they must have entered, when they must have joined by can more of less be circumvented and before you know it u will have a complex raffle that people both genuine and not can't be involved in. And whoever wins it, what's to stop them from flipping or selling it straight away, regardless of what you get them to sign up to. If it was me, I would do an open raffle open to anyone in the world who wants to participate. Tickets priced at £10 with no limit. Let's hope it goes viral and you will raise a huge amount for a v well deserving charity and chances are the print will go to a deserving fan. This way is also simpler to organise with less conditions or bureaucracy. And hell, if it goes to a flipper, so what. Happens to PoW continuously despite all their processes so I don't think this forum will be able to develop a more safe proof way. Above all do what u think is right. This is a great initiative - well done to u and all involved. I think what you're saying is bang on right Naughty, I keep changing my mind on whats the best way to do it, initially it was a simple giveaway to the forum and most likely to a nominated most deserved recipient, now the charitys involved and its getting a lot of support if we took away restrictions on who can buy and how many per person and it went viral which tbh I think it easily could, a huge amount of money could be raised, another very well respected UAA member contacted me via pm and asked if I would like them to make others aware on different art forums they are involved with raising money for charity and I believe if we did this and everyone got involved putting it on Facebook etc etc it could do so well for the charity. I'm only a member on UAA and it was a thank you gesture to the forum members of UAA ie give something back, in a way that has been done as so many have come together as a great community to support a good cause so it has added something positive to the forum. If I did say £10 a ticket anything goes I know we could raise a serious bit of cash but I also know I could end up on the most wanted list but I want to do whats right, also I don't want to loose the support that's there which has been fantastic. I need a time out.....voice your opinion.
Great idea and good man for doing it
Glad to see this is going forward and congrats to all involved. Andy, it sounds like the initial thought was to basically get someone a chance to win a banksy, but now, with the opportunity to raise some serious cash for a charity, the focus may be on raising £££ more, right? My view is ultimately, u cannot control the outcome of who wins the print. Setting rules on who can participate, minimum posts they must have entered, when they must have joined by can more of less be circumvented and before you know it u will have a complex raffle that people both genuine and not can't be involved in. And whoever wins it, what's to stop them from flipping or selling it straight away, regardless of what you get them to sign up to. If it was me, I would do an open raffle open to anyone in the world who wants to participate. Tickets priced at £10 with no limit. Let's hope it goes viral and you will raise a huge amount for a v well deserving charity and chances are the print will go to a deserving fan. This way is also simpler to organise with less conditions or bureaucracy. And hell, if it goes to a flipper, so what. Happens to PoW continuously despite all their processes so I don't think this forum will be able to develop a more safe proof way. Above all do what u think is right. This is a great initiative - well done to u and all involved. I think what you're saying is bang on right Naughty, I keep changing my mind on whats the best way to do it, initially it was a simple giveaway to the forum and most likely to a nominated most deserved recipient, now the charitys involved and its getting a lot of support if we took away restrictions on who can buy and how many per person and it went viral which tbh I think it easily could, a huge amount of money could be raised, another very well respected UAA member contacted me via pm and asked if I would like them to make others aware on different art forums they are involved with raising money for charity and I believe if we did this and everyone got involved putting it on Facebook etc etc it could do so well for the charity. I'm only a member on UAA and it was a thank you gesture to the forum members of UAA ie give something back, in a way that has been done as so many have come together as a great community to support a good cause so it has added something positive to the forum. If I did say £10 a ticket anything goes I know we could raise a serious bit of cash but I also know I could end up on the most wanted list but I want to do whats right, also I don't want to loose the support that's there which has been fantastic. I need a time out.....voice your opinion. Do what HarveyN did on the Mercy charity appeal a few years back. That seemed to work well, though it was easy for me as I just bought tickets. Maybe PM him, and its sometimes easier to research and copy. Great idea and good man for doing it |
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BANKSY for £1000, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 16:59:47 GMT 1, Do what HarveyN did on the Mercy charity appeal a few years back. That seemed to work well, though it was easy for me as I just bought tickets. Maybe PM him, and its sometimes easier to research and copy. Great idea and good man for doing it
Do what HarveyN did on the Mercy charity appeal a few years back. That seemed to work well, though it was easy for me as I just bought tickets. Maybe PM him, and its sometimes easier to research and copy. Great idea and good man for doing it Good idea, no need to PM though Andy as H lives in Ballykissangel too, nip next door but one and knock thrice!, no more than thrice though as he'll think its Riverdance come to tea. |
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BANKSY for £1000, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 17:59:53 GMT 1, Do what HarveyN did on the Mercy charity appeal a few years back. That seemed to work well, though it was easy for me as I just bought tickets. Maybe PM him, and its sometimes easier to research and copy. Great idea and good man for doing it Good idea, no need to PM though Andy as H lives in Ballykissangel too, nip next door but one and knock thrice!, no more than thrice though as he'll think its Riverdance come to tea.
Do what HarveyN did on the Mercy charity appeal a few years back. That seemed to work well, though it was easy for me as I just bought tickets. Maybe PM him, and its sometimes easier to research and copy. Great idea and good man for doing it Good idea, no need to PM though Andy as H lives in Ballykissangel too, nip next door but one and knock thrice!, no more than thrice though as he'll think its Riverdance come to tea. Oh, I didn't realise that. I read the other day in the Daily star that Ballykissangel authority are in consultation with the residence to rename it Artykissangel. Interesting huh |
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BANKSY for £1000, by naughtyshorty on Aug 5, 2014 22:34:00 GMT 1, You'll definitely hit a point of diminishing returns if you open it up outside of UAA; I know I personally won't enter if I know there are more than 400 some-odd tickets being sold, full disclosure.
Am interested in this. Is this cos the motivation to participate is to win the print primarily? Rather than to donate to charity primarily and possibly win the print?
Am not judging, just interested in the thinking
You'll definitely hit a point of diminishing returns if you open it up outside of UAA; I know I personally won't enter if I know there are more than 400 some-odd tickets being sold, full disclosure. Am interested in this. Is this cos the motivation to participate is to win the print primarily? Rather than to donate to charity primarily and possibly win the print? Am not judging, just interested in the thinking |
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BANKSY for £1000, by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 22:39:06 GMT 1, You'll definitely hit a point of diminishing returns if you open it up outside of UAA; I know I personally won't enter if I know there are more than 400 some-odd tickets being sold, full disclosure. Am interested in this. Is this cos the motivation to participate is to win the print primarily? Rather than to donate to charity primarily and possibly win the print? Am not judging, just interested in the thinking
IMO yes, that is the reason. Otherwise you would simply donate to the charity outright or not donate at all; the Banksy print is the incentive to donate through the raffle.
That said, on second thought I'd probably buy one or two tickets regardless of what happens just because it feels all UAA and fuzzy nice in here; I just personally wouldn't go all out on tickets unless I thought I actually had a chance.
You'll definitely hit a point of diminishing returns if you open it up outside of UAA; I know I personally won't enter if I know there are more than 400 some-odd tickets being sold, full disclosure. Am interested in this. Is this cos the motivation to participate is to win the print primarily? Rather than to donate to charity primarily and possibly win the print? Am not judging, just interested in the thinking IMO yes, that is the reason. Otherwise you would simply donate to the charity outright or not donate at all; the Banksy print is the incentive to donate through the raffle. That said, on second thought I'd probably buy one or two tickets regardless of what happens just because it feels all UAA and fuzzy nice in here; I just personally wouldn't go all out on tickets unless I thought I actually had a chance. |
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BANKSY for £1000, by chads007 on Aug 5, 2014 22:42:16 GMT 1, I think what you're saying is bang on right Naughty, I keep changing my mind on whats the best way to do it, initially it was a simple giveaway to the forum and most likely to a nominated most deserved recipient, now the charitys involved and its getting a lot of support if we took away restrictions on who can buy and how many per person and it went viral which tbh I think it easily could, a huge amount of money could be raised, another very well respected UAA member contacted me via pm and asked if I would like them to make others aware on different art forums they are involved with raising money for charity and I believe if we did this and everyone got involved putting it on Facebook etc etc it could do so well for the charity. I'm only a member on UAA and it was a thank you gesture to the forum members of UAA ie give something back, in a way that has been done as so many have come together as a great community to support a good cause so it has added something positive to the forum. If I did say £10 a ticket anything goes I know we could raise a serious bit of cash but I also know I could end up on the most wanted list but I want to do whats right, also I don't want to loose the support that's there which has been fantastic. I need a time out.....voice your opinion. Do what HarveyN did on the Mercy charity appeal a few years back. That seemed to work well, though it was easy for me as I just bought tickets. Maybe PM him, and its sometimes easier to research and copy. Great idea and good man for doing it
Think the initial idea of 5 tickets for tenner each to board members sounds simplest and fairest way forward and sure many will help eclipse your target
I think what you're saying is bang on right Naughty, I keep changing my mind on whats the best way to do it, initially it was a simple giveaway to the forum and most likely to a nominated most deserved recipient, now the charitys involved and its getting a lot of support if we took away restrictions on who can buy and how many per person and it went viral which tbh I think it easily could, a huge amount of money could be raised, another very well respected UAA member contacted me via pm and asked if I would like them to make others aware on different art forums they are involved with raising money for charity and I believe if we did this and everyone got involved putting it on Facebook etc etc it could do so well for the charity. I'm only a member on UAA and it was a thank you gesture to the forum members of UAA ie give something back, in a way that has been done as so many have come together as a great community to support a good cause so it has added something positive to the forum. If I did say £10 a ticket anything goes I know we could raise a serious bit of cash but I also know I could end up on the most wanted list but I want to do whats right, also I don't want to loose the support that's there which has been fantastic. I need a time out.....voice your opinion. Do what HarveyN did on the Mercy charity appeal a few years back. That seemed to work well, though it was easy for me as I just bought tickets. Maybe PM him, and its sometimes easier to research and copy. Great idea and good man for doing it What was your user few years back? Think the initial idea of 5 tickets for tenner each to board members sounds simplest and fairest way forward and sure many will help eclipse your target |
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