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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by beatztom on Oct 15, 2014 8:56:26 GMT 1, I wholeheartedly agree with you both. Street art is indeed a controversial subject, and I understand those who remove the works which displease them and are placed on their property. Stealing them for personal gain however is pretty low. You can always play the 'doing the city a favour' card, but in the end you're just greedy and taking another person's joy away. Those who condone this practice by buying these pieces are definitely also to blame. If you're a real fan/collector, and want to support the artist then buy the official stuff!
I wholeheartedly agree with you both. Street art is indeed a controversial subject, and I understand those who remove the works which displease them and are placed on their property. Stealing them for personal gain however is pretty low. You can always play the 'doing the city a favour' card, but in the end you're just greedy and taking another person's joy away. Those who condone this practice by buying these pieces are definitely also to blame. If you're a real fan/collector, and want to support the artist then buy the official stuff!
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by oxomo on Oct 15, 2014 9:32:31 GMT 1, I wholeheartedly agree with you both. Street art is indeed a controversial subject, and I understand those who remove the works which displease them and are placed on their property. Stealing them for personal gain however is pretty low. You can always play the 'doing the city a favour' card, but in the end you're just greedy and taking another person's joy away. Those who condone this practice by buying these pieces are definitely also to blame. If you're a real fan/collector, and want to support the artist then buy the official stuff!
I agree with this 100%.
I personally think the 'doing the city a favour' card is a load of BS. Yes, the owner of the property may not have given permission for someone to spray on their wall (which is another story altogether), but that doesn't mean that anyone has the right to just remove it.
If that person were to then claim that they were 'helping the city and saving it money' is utterly ridiculous. It was removed for personal gain, therefore making it wrong. BUT, if the person does simply just enjoy helping clean the city and is genuinely just doing a public service, well then, give that person a job, because they are a better person than I am.
I wholeheartedly agree with you both. Street art is indeed a controversial subject, and I understand those who remove the works which displease them and are placed on their property. Stealing them for personal gain however is pretty low. You can always play the 'doing the city a favour' card, but in the end you're just greedy and taking another person's joy away. Those who condone this practice by buying these pieces are definitely also to blame. If you're a real fan/collector, and want to support the artist then buy the official stuff! I agree with this 100%. I personally think the 'doing the city a favour' card is a load of BS. Yes, the owner of the property may not have given permission for someone to spray on their wall (which is another story altogether), but that doesn't mean that anyone has the right to just remove it. If that person were to then claim that they were 'helping the city and saving it money' is utterly ridiculous. It was removed for personal gain, therefore making it wrong. BUT, if the person does simply just enjoy helping clean the city and is genuinely just doing a public service, well then, give that person a job, because they are a better person than I am. |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by beatztom on Oct 15, 2014 10:30:54 GMT 1, Those who really do the city a favour are the ones who take the time and effort to clean, or restore damaged pieces. I've seen a couple of invader pieces fully restored or cleaned here in Paris. Those are the true Samaritans and crusaders for the street art cause!
Those who really do the city a favour are the ones who take the time and effort to clean, or restore damaged pieces. I've seen a couple of invader pieces fully restored or cleaned here in Paris. Those are the true Samaritans and crusaders for the street art cause!
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Invaded 420 on Oct 15, 2014 10:48:26 GMT 1, Those who really do the city a favour are the ones who take the time and effort to clean, or restore damaged pieces. I've seen a couple of invader pieces fully restored or cleaned here in Paris. Those are the true Samaritans and crusaders for the street art cause!
i wanted to do this in London with someone or a team an possibly replicate and restick ones that were stolen like in Japan aswell as fixing/cleaning damaged ones . But no one seemed interested, I don't think I'd have the balls to go round London resticking invaders lol but I could deffinately aid in making pieces and gettin colours to fit to fix damaged ones
Those who really do the city a favour are the ones who take the time and effort to clean, or restore damaged pieces. I've seen a couple of invader pieces fully restored or cleaned here in Paris. Those are the true Samaritans and crusaders for the street art cause! i wanted to do this in London with someone or a team an possibly replicate and restick ones that were stolen like in Japan aswell as fixing/cleaning damaged ones . But no one seemed interested, I don't think I'd have the balls to go round London resticking invaders lol but I could deffinately aid in making pieces and gettin colours to fit to fix damaged ones |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Dellboyy on Oct 15, 2014 10:55:18 GMT 1, Yeah, as much as i understand work on the street is usually always going to be temporary, especially the illegal work, people stealing things off the wall for profit always seems so wrong. I mean as much as i dislike it, i even get why the council paints over them. The Invaders around Manchester seem to be getting fewer these days due to people stealing them, only the other day i noticed the mothership was gone.
Completely agree with beatztom though, every now and again the opposite happens and one is rescued, like this one in Manchester:
Which someone painted over at point for god knows what reason:
Then the other day my mate took this pic, so someone has obviously taken the time to clean and restore it completely!
Yeah, as much as i understand work on the street is usually always going to be temporary, especially the illegal work, people stealing things off the wall for profit always seems so wrong. I mean as much as i dislike it, i even get why the council paints over them. The Invaders around Manchester seem to be getting fewer these days due to people stealing them, only the other day i noticed the mothership was gone. Completely agree with beatztom though, every now and again the opposite happens and one is rescued, like this one in Manchester: Which someone painted over at point for god knows what reason: Then the other day my mate took this pic, so someone has obviously taken the time to clean and restore it completely! |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 12:18:07 GMT 1, Yeah, as much as i understand work on the street is usually always going to be temporary, especially the illegal work, people stealing things off the wall for profit always seems so wrong. I mean as much as i dislike it, i even get why the council paints over them. The Invaders around Manchester seem to be getting fewer these days due to people stealing them, only the other day i noticed the mothership was gone. Completely agree with beatztom though, every now and again the opposite happens and one is rescued, like this one in Manchester: Which someone painted over at point for god knows what reason: Then the other day my mate took this pic, so someone has obviously taken the time to clean and restore it completely!
I go to Manchester quite a bit, have not seen this one. Will make the effort on my next trip.
I know of 2 others that are left in Manchester. With this that is 3. Wonder how many more are? I know a lot have been on eBay the last couple of years :-(
Yeah, as much as i understand work on the street is usually always going to be temporary, especially the illegal work, people stealing things off the wall for profit always seems so wrong. I mean as much as i dislike it, i even get why the council paints over them. The Invaders around Manchester seem to be getting fewer these days due to people stealing them, only the other day i noticed the mothership was gone. Completely agree with beatztom though, every now and again the opposite happens and one is rescued, like this one in Manchester: Which someone painted over at point for god knows what reason: Then the other day my mate took this pic, so someone has obviously taken the time to clean and restore it completely! I go to Manchester quite a bit, have not seen this one. Will make the effort on my next trip. I know of 2 others that are left in Manchester. With this that is 3. Wonder how many more are? I know a lot have been on eBay the last couple of years :-( |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Dellboyy on Oct 15, 2014 14:06:16 GMT 1, I go to Manchester quite a bit, have not seen this one. Will make the effort on my next trip. I know of 2 others that are left in Manchester. With this that is 3. Wonder how many more are? I know a lot have been on eBay the last couple of years :-(
There are actually quite a few still hanging around Manchester, the four big ones are still there, and even i'm still spotting the odd small one i've not noticed. Just a shame the few small ones i know of are starting to disappear!
I go to Manchester quite a bit, have not seen this one. Will make the effort on my next trip. I know of 2 others that are left in Manchester. With this that is 3. Wonder how many more are? I know a lot have been on eBay the last couple of years :-( There are actually quite a few still hanging around Manchester, the four big ones are still there, and even i'm still spotting the odd small one i've not noticed. Just a shame the few small ones i know of are starting to disappear! |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 14:23:48 GMT 1, I know this one is still up, or was last time I looked. Minus a tile or 2 unfortunatly.
Also the Union jack one, but it's been white painted over and a few tiles missing.
I know this one is still up, or was last time I looked. Minus a tile or 2 unfortunatly. Also the Union jack one, but it's been white painted over and a few tiles missing. |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 14:26:27 GMT 1, I also took a picture of the UFO one in manc, and the week after it was on eBay. Scum!
I also took a picture of the UFO one in manc, and the week after it was on eBay. Scum!
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Dellboyy on Oct 15, 2014 14:33:26 GMT 1, Yeah i managed to get a piccy of it myself a while back, only just noticed that one had vanished, sad to hear it ended up on ebay!
Yeah i managed to get a piccy of it myself a while back, only just noticed that one had vanished, sad to hear it ended up on ebay! |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 14:40:20 GMT 1, Yeah i managed to get a piccy of it myself a while back, only just noticed that one had vanished, sad to hear it ended up on ebay!
Yeah was last year sometime I think. The same seller sold 4 or 5 over about a year. In fact I think one was one of the really big ones, near or under a bridge if I remember right.
Yeah i managed to get a piccy of it myself a while back, only just noticed that one had vanished, sad to hear it ended up on ebay! Yeah was last year sometime I think. The same seller sold 4 or 5 over about a year. In fact I think one was one of the really big ones, near or under a bridge if I remember right. |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Dellboyy on Oct 15, 2014 14:43:52 GMT 1, Yeah i managed to get a piccy of it myself a while back, only just noticed that one had vanished, sad to hear it ended up on ebay! Yeah was last year sometime I think. The same seller sold 4 or 5 over about a year. In fact I think one was one of the really big ones, near or under a bridge if I remember right.
Was the big one from Manchester too? I only know/knew of four big ones, and they're all still there as far as i know.
Yeah i managed to get a piccy of it myself a while back, only just noticed that one had vanished, sad to hear it ended up on ebay! Yeah was last year sometime I think. The same seller sold 4 or 5 over about a year. In fact I think one was one of the really big ones, near or under a bridge if I remember right. Was the big one from Manchester too? I only know/knew of four big ones, and they're all still there as far as i know. |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Dellboyy on Oct 15, 2014 14:48:03 GMT 1, These are the four bigguns i know of:
 
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by oxomo on Oct 15, 2014 14:48:06 GMT 1, Invader's work is unfortunately very easy to steal! Sucks that they end up on the bay.
Invader's work is unfortunately very easy to steal! Sucks that they end up on the bay.
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 14:54:09 GMT 1, Yeah was last year sometime I think. The same seller sold 4 or 5 over about a year. In fact I think one was one of the really big ones, near or under a bridge if I remember right. Was the big one from Manchester too? I only know/knew of four big ones, and they're all still there as far as i know.
Sorry my bad. It wasn't a big one, it just looked big on the eBay advert from what I remember. It was this one.
It was a while ago. Lol
Yeah was last year sometime I think. The same seller sold 4 or 5 over about a year. In fact I think one was one of the really big ones, near or under a bridge if I remember right. Was the big one from Manchester too? I only know/knew of four big ones, and they're all still there as far as i know. Sorry my bad. It wasn't a big one, it just looked big on the eBay advert from what I remember. It was this one. It was a while ago. Lol |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Dellboyy on Oct 15, 2014 15:02:59 GMT 1, Aah, i'm sure i recognise that one, shame! Still it's been a while since he did them, so pretty impressive more haven't gone for one reason or another to be honest!
Aah, i'm sure i recognise that one, shame! Still it's been a while since he did them, so pretty impressive more haven't gone for one reason or another to be honest!
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Invaded 420 on Oct 15, 2014 15:15:23 GMT 1, Was the big one from Manchester too? I only know/knew of four big ones, and they're all still there as far as i know. Sorry my bad. It wasn't a big one, it just looked big on the eBay advert from what I remember. It was this one. It was a while ago. Lol
I also saw about 6 from same seller from Manc. Disgusting. These were deffinately 2 of them
Was the big one from Manchester too? I only know/knew of four big ones, and they're all still there as far as i know. Sorry my bad. It wasn't a big one, it just looked big on the eBay advert from what I remember. It was this one. It was a while ago. Lol I also saw about 6 from same seller from Manc. Disgusting. These were deffinately 2 of them |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 15:22:03 GMT 1, Sorry my bad. It wasn't a big one, it just looked big on the eBay advert from what I remember. It was this one. It was a while ago. Lol I also saw about 6 from same seller from Manc. Disgusting. These were deffinately 2 of them
Yes I can remember the same seller selling them all. He sold MAN-26, MAN-30, and MAN-35 as well. The b*****rd!
Sorry my bad. It wasn't a big one, it just looked big on the eBay advert from what I remember. It was this one. It was a while ago. Lol I also saw about 6 from same seller from Manc. Disgusting. These were deffinately 2 of them Yes I can remember the same seller selling them all. He sold MAN-26, MAN-30, and MAN-35 as well. The b*****rd! |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 15:27:01 GMT 1, This went a few weeks ago.
This went a few weeks ago. |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Invaded 420 on Oct 15, 2014 15:29:19 GMT 1, And man_01 I couldn't believe it. Everytime one sold a week or so after another would go up. How can people be so stupid to buy the street pieces. Even with picture documentation. And then didnt a gallery have a street piece for sale? I can see the appeal but geez, just buy some tiles and make your own if you can't afford an alias or ik! If anyone is ever thinking of buying a street piece, hook me up with the tiles and ill make it for you and send it back!!
And man_01 I couldn't believe it. Everytime one sold a week or so after another would go up. How can people be so stupid to buy the street pieces. Even with picture documentation. And then didnt a gallery have a street piece for sale? I can see the appeal but geez, just buy some tiles and make your own if you can't afford an alias or ik! If anyone is ever thinking of buying a street piece, hook me up with the tiles and ill make it for you and send it back!!
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Invaded 420 on Oct 15, 2014 15:31:15 GMT 1, This went a few weeks ago.
have they litterally cut it out the wall!!?
This went a few weeks ago. have they litterally cut it out the wall!!? |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 15:34:54 GMT 1, Looks like it. The discription said that the building was being demolished.
Looks like it. The discription said that the building was being demolished.
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Invaded 420 on Oct 15, 2014 15:41:51 GMT 1, The same has happened to the mini tile piece outside cargo nightclub in London. It now resides inside in a Perspex box on a chunk of concrete : / so weird lookin now
The same has happened to the mini tile piece outside cargo nightclub in London. It now resides inside in a Perspex box on a chunk of concrete : / so weird lookin now
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 15:55:08 GMT 1, Yeah I remember seeing the pic you posted. Is a bit weird looking.
But if a building is being destroyed with one on, what do you do?
Certainly don't sell for profit. Should it be destroyed with the building or displayed somewhere close to where it was somehow? It's a tough one.
Yeah I remember seeing the pic you posted. Is a bit weird looking.
But if a building is being destroyed with one on, what do you do?
Certainly don't sell for profit. Should it be destroyed with the building or displayed somewhere close to where it was somehow? It's a tough one.
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Invaded 420 on Oct 15, 2014 16:08:11 GMT 1, Yeah I'm sure that if the building it was on was being demolished then there could be a chance it could be removed and displayed in the local museum or something. I don't really know if the police/councils here acknowledge invader?
Yeah I'm sure that if the building it was on was being demolished then there could be a chance it could be removed and displayed in the local museum or something. I don't really know if the police/councils here acknowledge invader?
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 17:01:10 GMT 1, Probably not.
I'd say let it be destroyed. In destroying the building, the whole point of it goes with it. It would never be the same again.
Probably not.
I'd say let it be destroyed. In destroying the building, the whole point of it goes with it. It would never be the same again.
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by maddoghoek100 on Oct 15, 2014 19:34:10 GMT 1, as to how to post photos in the forum go to:
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create account, upload photos use the links it creates for you to post you pics.
That said, i think you can sleep easy. An invader would seem to be darn hard to take down intact and without damaging the tiles. The pieces are more likely just fakes that both you and your friend overpaid for. Which is the more likely scenario:
- a single person traveled around Europe carefully removing tiles from walls without being noticed
- or a person found some pictures of invader street pieces, bought some similar tiles from the internet for peanuts and sold them to you for a big profit
If you knew the seller was willing to take the pieces from the wall you knew you were dealing with a slightly shady character. Is it all that hard to believe they might be shady enough to lie about the provenance to make some cash. The seller certainly knew that authentication was not possible and you would have no recourse regardless.
and off topic, im not sure you can actually steal something that was illegally placed in a location. i would certainly take a piece that i knew was going to be buffed or otherwise removed by the rightful property owner. There is certainly some gray area in all of this, but these don't seem to qualify.
as to how to post photos in the forum go to: www.photobucket.comcreate account, upload photos use the links it creates for you to post you pics. That said, i think you can sleep easy. An invader would seem to be darn hard to take down intact and without damaging the tiles. The pieces are more likely just fakes that both you and your friend overpaid for. Which is the more likely scenario: - a single person traveled around Europe carefully removing tiles from walls without being noticed - or a person found some pictures of invader street pieces, bought some similar tiles from the internet for peanuts and sold them to you for a big profit If you knew the seller was willing to take the pieces from the wall you knew you were dealing with a slightly shady character. Is it all that hard to believe they might be shady enough to lie about the provenance to make some cash. The seller certainly knew that authentication was not possible and you would have no recourse regardless. and off topic, im not sure you can actually steal something that was illegally placed in a location. i would certainly take a piece that i knew was going to be buffed or otherwise removed by the rightful property owner. There is certainly some gray area in all of this, but these don't seem to qualify. |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 19:40:32 GMT 1, I have one simple question. Why did the OP ask what he should do with these and then ignore any suggestions. I think he just should of posted in the for sale section.
I have one simple question. Why did the OP ask what he should do with these and then ignore any suggestions. I think he just should of posted in the for sale section.
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by khog on Oct 15, 2014 20:41:11 GMT 1, and off topic, im not sure you can actually steal something that was illegally placed in a location. i would certainly take a piece that i knew was going to be buffed or otherwise removed by the rightful property owner. There is certainly some gray area in all of this, but these don't seem to qualify.
and off topic, im not sure you can actually steal something that was illegally placed in a location. i would certainly take a piece that i knew was going to be buffed or otherwise removed by the rightful property owner. There is certainly some gray area in all of this, but these don't seem to qualify. Thank you, that was my point exactly |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 15, 2014 22:05:28 GMT 1, as to how to post photos in the forum go to: www.photobucket.comcreate account, upload photos use the links it creates for you to post you pics. That said, i think you can sleep easy. An invader would seem to be darn hard to take down intact and without damaging the tiles. The pieces are more likely just fakes that both you and your friend overpaid for. Which is the more likely scenario: - a single person traveled around Europe carefully removing tiles from walls without being noticed - or a person found some pictures of invader street pieces, bought some similar tiles from the internet for peanuts and sold them to you for a big profit If you knew the seller was willing to take the pieces from the wall you knew you were dealing with a slightly shady character. Is it all that hard to believe they might be shady enough to lie about the provenance to make some cash. The seller certainly knew that authentication was not possible and you would have no recourse regardless. and off topic, im not sure you can actually steal something that was illegally placed in a location. i would certainly take a piece that i knew was going to be buffed or otherwise removed by the rightful property owner. There is certainly some gray area in all of this, but these don't seem to qualify.
In the case of invader, this could be classed as criminal damage in removing it, as chances are you are going to damage the building trying to get it off intact.
as to how to post photos in the forum go to: www.photobucket.comcreate account, upload photos use the links it creates for you to post you pics. That said, i think you can sleep easy. An invader would seem to be darn hard to take down intact and without damaging the tiles. The pieces are more likely just fakes that both you and your friend overpaid for. Which is the more likely scenario: - a single person traveled around Europe carefully removing tiles from walls without being noticed - or a person found some pictures of invader street pieces, bought some similar tiles from the internet for peanuts and sold them to you for a big profit If you knew the seller was willing to take the pieces from the wall you knew you were dealing with a slightly shady character. Is it all that hard to believe they might be shady enough to lie about the provenance to make some cash. The seller certainly knew that authentication was not possible and you would have no recourse regardless. and off topic, im not sure you can actually steal something that was illegally placed in a location. i would certainly take a piece that i knew was going to be buffed or otherwise removed by the rightful property owner. There is certainly some gray area in all of this, but these don't seem to qualify. In the case of invader, this could be classed as criminal damage in removing it, as chances are you are going to damage the building trying to get it off intact. |
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