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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by khog on Oct 15, 2014 22:35:52 GMT 1, I'm curious as to what he uses to secure them in place. It can't be silicone, some type of mortar or grout, epoxy maybe? Silicone could be removed rather easily without damage but mortar or grout would require some effort and would definitely damage either the tiles, building or both.
I'm curious as to what he uses to secure them in place. It can't be silicone, some type of mortar or grout, epoxy maybe? Silicone could be removed rather easily without damage but mortar or grout would require some effort and would definitely damage either the tiles, building or both.
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by maddoghoek100 on Oct 15, 2014 22:53:13 GMT 1, more likely charge here in the states would be criminal trespass, but no idea what the charge woul dbe anywhere else on the world.
That said, i think you can sleep easy. An invader would seem to be darn hard to take down intact and without damaging the tiles. In the case of invader, this could be classed as criminal damage in removing it, as chances are you are going to damage the building trying to get it off intact.
more likely charge here in the states would be criminal trespass, but no idea what the charge woul dbe anywhere else on the world. That said, i think you can sleep easy. An invader would seem to be darn hard to take down intact and without damaging the tiles. In the case of invader, this could be classed as criminal damage in removing it, as chances are you are going to damage the building trying to get it off intact. |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 1:21:14 GMT 1, Hi everyone, This is my first post in this forum and I really hope not the last. I am very new to this world. I got into it by accident, but the more I learn, the more I realize what are the Do's and Don'ts and I am afraid I have made a couple of big Don'ts! I need some guidance and advice. Basically, the story is this: A Couple of years ago, a friend of mine was in some financial trouble and didn't want help. He just wanted to sell some of his stuff. I have seen these "invaders" on his wall, and we agreed on a price. These "invaders" are actually original ones that he had removed from their original location and re-assembled and framed. He has provided me with pictures of the pieces in their original location, along with picture of them being removed and finally, their picture as being put back together to be framed. In hindsight, I understand how disgusting this is, and how much it goes against the artist's original intension, but what can I do. I'd like some advise on what to do with these as I am not even sure I should keep them on my wall, although - I have to say - I really like them. I have 6 of them from France, Spain, Switerland and Ireland. Thanks, O. You could make a nice mosaic out of them.
Hi everyone, This is my first post in this forum and I really hope not the last. I am very new to this world. I got into it by accident, but the more I learn, the more I realize what are the Do's and Don'ts and I am afraid I have made a couple of big Don'ts! I need some guidance and advice. Basically, the story is this: A Couple of years ago, a friend of mine was in some financial trouble and didn't want help. He just wanted to sell some of his stuff. I have seen these "invaders" on his wall, and we agreed on a price. These "invaders" are actually original ones that he had removed from their original location and re-assembled and framed. He has provided me with pictures of the pieces in their original location, along with picture of them being removed and finally, their picture as being put back together to be framed. In hindsight, I understand how disgusting this is, and how much it goes against the artist's original intension, but what can I do. I'd like some advise on what to do with these as I am not even sure I should keep them on my wall, although - I have to say - I really like them. I have 6 of them from France, Spain, Switerland and Ireland. Thanks, O. You could make a nice mosaic out of them.
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Justdave
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Oct 16, 2014 6:47:48 GMT 1, I'm curious as to what he uses to secure them in place. It can't be silicone, some type of mortar or grout, epoxy maybe? Silicone could be removed rather easily without damage but mortar or grout would require some effort and would definitely damage either the tiles, building or both.
Swimming pool tile adhesive i believe.
I'm curious as to what he uses to secure them in place. It can't be silicone, some type of mortar or grout, epoxy maybe? Silicone could be removed rather easily without damage but mortar or grout would require some effort and would definitely damage either the tiles, building or both. Swimming pool tile adhesive i believe. |
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beatztom
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by beatztom on Oct 16, 2014 9:36:32 GMT 1, I'm curious as to what he uses to secure them in place. It can't be silicone, some type of mortar or grout, epoxy maybe? Silicone could be removed rather easily without damage but mortar or grout would require some effort and would definitely damage either the tiles, building or both. Swimming pool tile adhesive i believe.
I really think he adapts the glue to the surface. Also the type of pressure that he can apply, ie if he's dangling off the edge of a ladder or not!
I'm curious as to what he uses to secure them in place. It can't be silicone, some type of mortar or grout, epoxy maybe? Silicone could be removed rather easily without damage but mortar or grout would require some effort and would definitely damage either the tiles, building or both. Swimming pool tile adhesive i believe. I really think he adapts the glue to the surface. Also the type of pressure that he can apply, ie if he's dangling off the edge of a ladder or not! |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by beatztom on Oct 16, 2014 10:04:29 GMT 1, 
I like the way the person who restored this one mocks the vandal by adding one word!!
I like the way the person who restored this one mocks the vandal by adding one word!! |
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opsami77
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by opsami77 on Oct 18, 2014 20:29:36 GMT 1, I have received a lot of feedback, some her eon the forum and some through PMs. Basically, everyone agrees that stealing is wrong and I agree as well, but Hello! I did not steal anything here.
The advise I have received so far is either
1- Put them up in Dubai (where I live) and I can't do that for two reasons: a) police doesn't kid around here and b) I have no clue how to hold the tiles together
2- Return them to their original locations: That's just not feasible
3- Keep them on my wall and enjoy them
So I am going with option 3.
As for the two/three comments that imply I am fishing for offers, thank you for giving me that much credit! I am not that smart nor that deviant. They are not for sale.
And as one of the last comments said, there is now way to prove origin or authenticity, so I clearly have overpaid for them!
I have received a lot of feedback, some her eon the forum and some through PMs. Basically, everyone agrees that stealing is wrong and I agree as well, but Hello! I did not steal anything here.
The advise I have received so far is either
1- Put them up in Dubai (where I live) and I can't do that for two reasons: a) police doesn't kid around here and b) I have no clue how to hold the tiles together
2- Return them to their original locations: That's just not feasible
3- Keep them on my wall and enjoy them
So I am going with option 3.
As for the two/three comments that imply I am fishing for offers, thank you for giving me that much credit! I am not that smart nor that deviant. They are not for sale.
And as one of the last comments said, there is now way to prove origin or authenticity, so I clearly have overpaid for them!
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Aza on Nov 1, 2014 12:44:14 GMT 1, Asshole.
That's one less I can see when I visit Paris later this month 
Asshole. That's one less I can see when I visit Paris later this month |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by yojoe007 on Nov 2, 2014 8:15:35 GMT 1, Further to the last auction, I received the following email when asking to see the "before" photos:
"Dear All.
I am recieving a lot of questions asking for the pictures of the work in situ. These are exclusively for the winning bidder because I don't want them to be spread around the internet and perhaps getting abused. Street art is my passion as well and I want to protect it as well as possible. My documentation is the pictures and the provenance is the streets. I have pictures showing the work in situ, the work being removed and a picture of the yard and wall after removal.
Happy bidding.
- shineslikeson"
This was my favourite line: "Street art is my passion as well and I want to protect it as well as possible"...
Further to the last auction, I received the following email when asking to see the "before" photos:
"Dear All.
I am recieving a lot of questions asking for the pictures of the work in situ. These are exclusively for the winning bidder because I don't want them to be spread around the internet and perhaps getting abused. Street art is my passion as well and I want to protect it as well as possible. My documentation is the pictures and the provenance is the streets. I have pictures showing the work in situ, the work being removed and a picture of the yard and wall after removal.
Happy bidding.
- shineslikeson"
This was my favourite line: "Street art is my passion as well and I want to protect it as well as possible"...
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Dec 25, 2014 18:50:48 GMT 1,
Ive never heard of invader putting 2 in the same place. I'm guessing one is an imposter lol.
Ive never heard of invader putting 2 in the same place. I'm guessing one is an imposter lol. |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Invaded 420 on Dec 25, 2014 19:53:14 GMT 1, He's done it with some of the early ones in Paris. There's 3 or so all different numbers in one place but in this case I think the thief took the wrong piece hahaha
He's done it with some of the early ones in Paris. There's 3 or so all different numbers in one place but in this case I think the thief took the wrong piece hahaha
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by beatztom on Dec 26, 2014 9:50:21 GMT 1, He's done it with some of the early ones in Paris. There's 3 or so all different numbers in one place but in this case I think the thief took the wrong piece hahaha
Lol !
It almost looks like the thief is actually an imposter. To me it appears as if the guy stuck up the sonic tiles next to a legit piece to give it some credit, and promptly removed the fake piece to sell along with the fake removal pics. I don't have access to my Paris invasion book currently but if I remember correctly, invader's real sonic piece (the old one) looked much cooler than that one on eBay.
He's done it with some of the early ones in Paris. There's 3 or so all different numbers in one place but in this case I think the thief took the wrong piece hahaha Lol ! It almost looks like the thief is actually an imposter. To me it appears as if the guy stuck up the sonic tiles next to a legit piece to give it some credit, and promptly removed the fake piece to sell along with the fake removal pics. I don't have access to my Paris invasion book currently but if I remember correctly, invader's real sonic piece (the old one) looked much cooler than that one on eBay. |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Invaded 420 on Dec 26, 2014 15:10:57 GMT 1, He's done it with some of the early ones in Paris. There's 3 or so all different numbers in one place but in this case I think the thief took the wrong piece hahaha Lol ! It almost looks like the thief is actually an imposter. To me it appears as if the guy stuck up the sonic tiles next to a legit piece to give it some credit, and promptly removed the fake piece to sell along with the fake removal pics. I don't have access to my Paris invasion book currently but if I remember correctly, invader's real sonic piece (the old one) looked much cooler than that one on eBay.
i think your right man. Or someone has stuck up a 'tribute' and he took the wrong one lol
He's done it with some of the early ones in Paris. There's 3 or so all different numbers in one place but in this case I think the thief took the wrong piece hahaha Lol ! It almost looks like the thief is actually an imposter. To me it appears as if the guy stuck up the sonic tiles next to a legit piece to give it some credit, and promptly removed the fake piece to sell along with the fake removal pics. I don't have access to my Paris invasion book currently but if I remember correctly, invader's real sonic piece (the old one) looked much cooler than that one on eBay. i think your right man. Or someone has stuck up a 'tribute' and he took the wrong one lol |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Dec 26, 2014 17:52:02 GMT 1, Ha ha. Dumb ass.
Ha ha. Dumb ass.
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beatztom
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by beatztom on Dec 27, 2014 14:53:45 GMT 1, Can't believe someone actually bid for those tiles, could actually be a friend of the seller... Generating hype for junk ;-p
Can't believe someone actually bid for those tiles, could actually be a friend of the seller... Generating hype for junk ;-p
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Justdave
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Justdave on Dec 27, 2014 16:11:16 GMT 1, I find it hard to believe that they got all those tiles off without breaking any. Either way, scumbags!
I find it hard to believe that they got all those tiles off without breaking any. Either way, scumbags!
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Sweetcorn on Dec 27, 2014 16:39:27 GMT 1, I find it hard to believe that they got all those tiles off without breaking any. Either way, scumbags!
They probably destroyed 3 or 4 to make one good 1
kuntz
I find it hard to believe that they got all those tiles off without breaking any. Either way, scumbags!
They probably destroyed 3 or 4 to make one good 1
kuntz
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beatztom
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by beatztom on Dec 28, 2014 14:21:57 GMT 1, Assuming the piece wasn't by invader I think it would probably be easier to remove; less experience with tiling.
The eBay listing appears to have been removed anyway, good riddance!
Assuming the piece wasn't by invader I think it would probably be easier to remove; less experience with tiling.
The eBay listing appears to have been removed anyway, good riddance!
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 20:43:07 GMT 1, 2 more down : PA_144    PA_689   Edit : and hello to all ! 1st post but i browse this forum since a while.  !?!
2 more down : PA_144 PA_689 Edit : and hello to all ! 1st post but i browse this forum since a while. Welcome to the forum! And are these streetkits yours? !?! |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by pingoo on Dec 29, 2014 14:21:53 GMT 1, Absolutely not, but they were showed to me by a gallerist.
I refuse his offer of course.
Absolutely not, but they were showed to me by a gallerist.
I refuse his offer of course.
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by pingoo on Jun 26, 2015 14:12:34 GMT 1, Some others in auction house, can they legally do that ?
Some others in auction house, can they legally do that ? |
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Matt
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Matt on Jun 26, 2015 16:13:51 GMT 1, I find it hard to believe that they got all those tiles off without breaking any. Either way, scumbags!
As Invader suggests his own website :
- take a pic of the invader in place.
- tear it off, most likely destroying it
- take a picture of the invader gone
- go to DIY store and buy tiles
- rebuild invader "taken down from the wall"
- sell to gullible clowns
He even gives the names of the shops where he buys his tiles
I find it hard to believe that they got all those tiles off without breaking any. Either way, scumbags! As Invader suggests his own website : - take a pic of the invader in place. - tear it off, most likely destroying it - take a picture of the invader gone - go to DIY store and buy tiles - rebuild invader "taken down from the wall" - sell to gullible clowns He even gives the names of the shops where he buys his tiles |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by theglifster on Jun 26, 2015 16:19:37 GMT 1, It's a shame. So much fun to explore new cities by looking out for space invaders
It's a shame. So much fun to explore new cities by looking out for space invaders
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11
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by 11 on Jun 26, 2015 16:51:08 GMT 1, I find it hard to believe that they got all those tiles off without breaking any. Either way, scumbags! As Invader suggests his own website : - take a pic of the invader in place. - tear it off, most likely destroying it - take a picture of the invader gone - go to DIY store and buy tiles - rebuild invader "taken down from the wall" - sell to gullible clowns He even gives the names of the shops where he buys his tiles
So you're summary should read like this
- take a pic of the invader in place.
- go to DIY store and buy tiles
- build you're own copy
- enjoy
It does also highlight how easy it would be to recreate a street piece and so people shouldn't ever buy his pieces that were solely intended for the street as they are very likely fake (and he will never authenticate them)
I find it hard to believe that they got all those tiles off without breaking any. Either way, scumbags! As Invader suggests his own website : - take a pic of the invader in place. - tear it off, most likely destroying it - take a picture of the invader gone - go to DIY store and buy tiles - rebuild invader "taken down from the wall" - sell to gullible clowns He even gives the names of the shops where he buys his tiles Er......I think Invader suggested people make their own from scratch, not remove his pieces and then repair them. He was pissed at so many being removed so just simply pointed out that if people wanted an invader they could just build one in the same style rather than destroy a street piece So you're summary should read like this - take a pic of the invader in place. - go to DIY store and buy tiles - build you're own copy - enjoy It does also highlight how easy it would be to recreate a street piece and so people shouldn't ever buy his pieces that were solely intended for the street as they are very likely fake (and he will never authenticate them) |
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by 11 on Jun 26, 2015 16:58:04 GMT 1, This is the actual article and he does make it clear at the start that he considers any removal of his pieces theft and a violation of Artists Rights
He goes onto say that any removal immediately invalidates its authenticity and in fact the act of removal pretty much destroys the tiles so the stolen pieces could be made entirely from new tiles and still passed off as his
Read more - Street Art Destruction
This is the actual article and he does make it clear at the start that he considers any removal of his pieces theft and a violation of Artists Rights He goes onto say that any removal immediately invalidates its authenticity and in fact the act of removal pretty much destroys the tiles so the stolen pieces could be made entirely from new tiles and still passed off as his Read more - Street Art Destruction
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Matt
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Space Invaders removed from the Street, by Matt on Jun 26, 2015 17:00:58 GMT 1, As Invader suggests his own website : - take a pic of the invader in place. - tear it off, most likely destroying it - take a picture of the invader gone - go to DIY store and buy tiles - rebuild invader "taken down from the wall" - sell to gullible clowns He even gives the names of the shops where he buys his tiles Er......I think Invader suggested people make their own from scratch, not remove his pieces and then repair them. He was pissed at so many being removed so just simply pointed out that if people wanted an invader they could just build one in the same style rather than destroy a street piece So you're summary should read like this - take a pic of the invader in place. - go to DIY store and buy tiles - build you're own copy - enjoy It does also highlight how easy it would be to recreate a street piece and so people shouldn't ever buy his pieces that were solely intended for the street as they are very likely fake (and he will never authenticate them)
I am not implying invader is saying "try to steal my art, destroy it, and make some money" :-D
Of course he explaining how it is done so that
-he reminds people it won't be authenticated
- adds that you are probably not even getting the actual wall piece that was ripped off
- reminds that the tiles are just standard, from the shops he mentions, and not signed so they have no intrinsic value as a tile
So indeed you are better off building your own
As Invader suggests his own website : - take a pic of the invader in place. - tear it off, most likely destroying it - take a picture of the invader gone - go to DIY store and buy tiles - rebuild invader "taken down from the wall" - sell to gullible clowns He even gives the names of the shops where he buys his tiles Er......I think Invader suggested people make their own from scratch, not remove his pieces and then repair them. He was pissed at so many being removed so just simply pointed out that if people wanted an invader they could just build one in the same style rather than destroy a street piece So you're summary should read like this - take a pic of the invader in place. - go to DIY store and buy tiles - build you're own copy - enjoy It does also highlight how easy it would be to recreate a street piece and so people shouldn't ever buy his pieces that were solely intended for the street as they are very likely fake (and he will never authenticate them) I am not implying invader is saying "try to steal my art, destroy it, and make some money" :-D Of course he explaining how it is done so that -he reminds people it won't be authenticated - adds that you are probably not even getting the actual wall piece that was ripped off - reminds that the tiles are just standard, from the shops he mentions, and not signed so they have no intrinsic value as a tile So indeed you are better off building your own |
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