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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by 18921892 on Nov 12, 2021 9:52:11 GMT 1, 95,000 pounds for balloon girl No it was a lot more than that I think £120k plus other fees added on to the eventual invoice. I would think close to £130k which is pretty good given the condition. Probably why it was put in to auction. Seller got £95k another reason not sell at auction unless you are have condition issues,
95,000 pounds for balloon girl No it was a lot more than that I think £120k plus other fees added on to the eventual invoice. I would think close to £130k which is pretty good given the condition. Probably why it was put in to auction. Seller got £95k another reason not sell at auction unless you are have condition issues,
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kickthecat
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by kickthecat on Nov 13, 2021 17:23:35 GMT 1, 95,000 pounds for balloon girl No it was a lot more than that I think £120k plus other fees added on to the eventual invoice. I would think close to £130k which is pretty good given the condition. Probably why it was put in to auction. Seller got £95k another reason not sell at auction unless you are have condition issues, Honest Question
So when you are talking selling Banksy for the 10's of £1000s upwards where would you sell?
A well known auction house like Bonhams seems like a good idea surely?
95,000 pounds for balloon girl No it was a lot more than that I think £120k plus other fees added on to the eventual invoice. I would think close to £130k which is pretty good given the condition. Probably why it was put in to auction. Seller got £95k another reason not sell at auction unless you are have condition issues, Honest Question So when you are talking selling Banksy for the 10's of £1000s upwards where would you sell? A well known auction house like Bonhams seems like a good idea surely?
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by JFCC on Nov 14, 2021 16:33:57 GMT 1, No it was a lot more than that I think £120k plus other fees added on to the eventual invoice. I would think close to £130k which is pretty good given the condition. Probably why it was put in to auction. Seller got £95k another reason not sell at auction unless you are have condition issues, Honest Question So when you are talking selling Banksy for the 10's of £1000s upwards where would you sell? A well known auction house like Bonhams seems like a good idea surely? Bonhams were my favourite auction house for a long period of time, great people to deal with and very straight forward. However in my opinion, I think they have definitely lost their way in terms of catalogues, promotion of sales and condition reports, this is my own personal opinion I must stress. An example is the Pop x Culture sale which had so many lots, many were for a few hundred pounds, then they had a random Supreme LV trunk and then somewhere some excellent Banksy prints mixed in there. They also had some poor ones!!! Who an earth was the audience for that collection? I will add however I do buy from Bonhams as they are always the cheapest auction house but I prefer to try and do a deal with members here or with other parties that I know.
Forum are excellent and very honest brokers but they have just pushed to many Banksy only auctions and are in, in my opinion again, part the reason for the market indigestion we have seen all year. They have been a victim of their own success and as their reach is pretty limited to a relatively compact band of collectors it is hard to break the circle. They need to have less Banksy lots and a much wider number of artists that they assemble alongside.
Sotheby's and Phillips are in my opinion the best at the moment. Their reach is far and away the best and advertising and marketing to their clientele much better than the rest. Christies are close but a little haphazard and are perhaps too honest in their estimates thus not creating an early enough frenzy feel either online or in the room. All three do however bring an excellent international reach to the equation and that is also good.
So if I was selling a Banksy print today, it would not be in a Banksy only sale. It would be in mixed catalogue of other urban and pop artists all with a similar quality and price range. Most likely it would be through Sotheby's or Phillips depending on who gave me the best deal of no sellers fees etc.
Just my view!!!
No it was a lot more than that I think £120k plus other fees added on to the eventual invoice. I would think close to £130k which is pretty good given the condition. Probably why it was put in to auction. Seller got £95k another reason not sell at auction unless you are have condition issues, Honest Question So when you are talking selling Banksy for the 10's of £1000s upwards where would you sell? A well known auction house like Bonhams seems like a good idea surely? Bonhams were my favourite auction house for a long period of time, great people to deal with and very straight forward. However in my opinion, I think they have definitely lost their way in terms of catalogues, promotion of sales and condition reports, this is my own personal opinion I must stress. An example is the Pop x Culture sale which had so many lots, many were for a few hundred pounds, then they had a random Supreme LV trunk and then somewhere some excellent Banksy prints mixed in there. They also had some poor ones!!! Who an earth was the audience for that collection? I will add however I do buy from Bonhams as they are always the cheapest auction house but I prefer to try and do a deal with members here or with other parties that I know. Forum are excellent and very honest brokers but they have just pushed to many Banksy only auctions and are in, in my opinion again, part the reason for the market indigestion we have seen all year. They have been a victim of their own success and as their reach is pretty limited to a relatively compact band of collectors it is hard to break the circle. They need to have less Banksy lots and a much wider number of artists that they assemble alongside. Sotheby's and Phillips are in my opinion the best at the moment. Their reach is far and away the best and advertising and marketing to their clientele much better than the rest. Christies are close but a little haphazard and are perhaps too honest in their estimates thus not creating an early enough frenzy feel either online or in the room. All three do however bring an excellent international reach to the equation and that is also good. So if I was selling a Banksy print today, it would not be in a Banksy only sale. It would be in mixed catalogue of other urban and pop artists all with a similar quality and price range. Most likely it would be through Sotheby's or Phillips depending on who gave me the best deal of no sellers fees etc. Just my view!!!
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pollz66
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by pollz66 on Dec 8, 2021 22:21:04 GMT 1,
There's some bargains to be had at Bonhams Prints and Multiples auction tomorrow including:
Hirst, Banksy, Shrigley, Opie, Emin, Stik and this lovely Chris Levine Lightness Of Being Queen.
www.bonhams.com/auctions/26786/#/aa1=1&MR1_length=241&w1=list&m1=1
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by kickthecat on Dec 9, 2021 16:39:13 GMT 1, well well, well - certainly a buyers market today
well well, well - certainly a buyers market today
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by My Name is Frank on Dec 9, 2021 16:49:28 GMT 1, Yep, shelving my retirement plans, christ the price of the Opie poster now!
Yep, shelving my retirement plans, christ the price of the Opie poster now!
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JFCC
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by JFCC on Dec 9, 2021 17:08:07 GMT 1, Another Bonhams buyers feast!!!
Out of 8 Banksy unsigned prints sold today 6 achieved new record lows!!!
Thank you for the bargains but who would ever sell there!!!
Another Bonhams buyers feast!!!
Out of 8 Banksy unsigned prints sold today 6 achieved new record lows!!!
Thank you for the bargains but who would ever sell there!!!
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Lazarus II
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by Lazarus II on Dec 9, 2021 17:11:25 GMT 1, Another Bonhams buyers feast!!! Out of 8 Banksy unsigned prints sold today 6 achieved new record lows!!! Thank you for the bargains but who would ever sell there!!! which prints were the record lows ?
Another Bonhams buyers feast!!! Out of 8 Banksy unsigned prints sold today 6 achieved new record lows!!! Thank you for the bargains but who would ever sell there!!! which prints were the record lows ?
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JFCC
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by JFCC on Dec 9, 2021 17:20:08 GMT 1, This is record lows, this year which is my measure of the state of the market or in this case the state of the auction house.
For example Love Rat sold yesterday at 20% more at Tate Ward (Hammer £25k TW v £20k at Bonhams)
All were unsigned
Happy Choppers, B&W Trollies, IFTL, HMV, Grannies and Love Rat
This is record lows, this year which is my measure of the state of the market or in this case the state of the auction house.
For example Love Rat sold yesterday at 20% more at Tate Ward (Hammer £25k TW v £20k at Bonhams)
All were unsigned
Happy Choppers, B&W Trollies, IFTL, HMV, Grannies and Love Rat
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by tonys on Dec 9, 2021 17:25:10 GMT 1, Another Bonhams buyers feast!!! Out of 8 Banksy unsigned prints sold today 6 achieved new record lows!!! Thank you for the bargains but who would ever sell there!!! which prints were the record lows ? the unsignes GWRB I think was a record high if not mistaken
Another Bonhams buyers feast!!! Out of 8 Banksy unsigned prints sold today 6 achieved new record lows!!! Thank you for the bargains but who would ever sell there!!! which prints were the record lows ? the unsignes GWRB I think was a record high if not mistaken
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by JFCC on Dec 9, 2021 17:40:43 GMT 1, which prints were the record lows ? the unsignes Girl With Red Baloon I think was a record high if not mistaken Actually Bonhams does have the record for an unsigned GWB, but it wasn't today it was in March this year at £328k (Hammer £262k).
That said £174k all in (hammer £130k) achieved today was actually a good result. Probably the only good result!!
which prints were the record lows ? the unsignes Girl With Red Baloon I think was a record high if not mistaken Actually Bonhams does have the record for an unsigned GWB, but it wasn't today it was in March this year at £328k (Hammer £262k). That said £174k all in (hammer £130k) achieved today was actually a good result. Probably the only good result!!
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by Unica on Dec 9, 2021 19:01:48 GMT 1, Good result for the US GWB at £174k, given the condition. Must be the print to have moving forward, LIITA and LN have dropped off and GWB picking up steam following Love is in the Bin sale.
Good result for the US GWB at £174k, given the condition. Must be the print to have moving forward, LIITA and LN have dropped off and GWB picking up steam following Love is in the Bin sale.
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by irl1 on Dec 9, 2021 20:06:36 GMT 1, Good result for the US Girl With Balloon at £174k, given the condition. Must be the print to have moving forward, Love is in The Air and LN have dropped off and Girl With Balloon picking up steam following Love is in the Bin sale. Yesterday Love is in the air sold for €200,000 + fees
www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/BANKSY-(N%C3%A9-en-1975)----LOVE-IS-IN-THE-AIR-2003--033463BA31
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by Spenie on Dec 9, 2021 20:53:06 GMT 1, I wonder what Artdelight will have to say?
I wonder what Artdelight will have to say?
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by nobokov on Dec 9, 2021 21:46:58 GMT 1, Another reminder why it's not a good idea to buy prints, especially these days.
Another reminder why it's not a good idea to buy prints, especially these days.
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by pollz66 on Dec 10, 2021 10:38:47 GMT 1, A great result, however, for a very high edition, unsigned Chris Levine at £9.5k.
There are 1,000 of this edition so expect to see a few of them flooding auctions houses near you soon.
www.bonhams.com/auctions/26786/lot/165/
A great result, however, for a very high edition, unsigned Chris Levine at £9.5k. There are 1,000 of this edition so expect to see a few of them flooding auctions houses near you soon. www.bonhams.com/auctions/26786/lot/165/
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by amputeerich on Dec 10, 2021 14:37:24 GMT 1,
Why on earth would someone pay £9.5k for this when it’s available at source for £2.5k? It’s the same image right?
Why on earth would someone pay £9.5k for this when it’s available at source for £2.5k? It’s the same image right?
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by kickthecat on Dec 19, 2021 20:13:19 GMT 1, the recent Prints and Multiples sale at Bonhams - 16 Dec 2021, had 4 signed Banksy prints: Results:
Choose your Weapon (Bright Pink)
£ 100,000 - 150,000
US$ 130,000 - 200,000
WITHDRAWN
Grin Reaper
£ 50,000 - 70,000
US$ 66,000 - 93,000 PASSED
Trolleys (colour)
Sold for £ 40,250 (US$ 53,519) inc. premium
Very Little Helps
Sold for £ 50,250 (US$ 66,816) inc. premium
www.bonhams.com/auctions/26784/#/aa1=1&MR1_length=48&w1=list&q1=banksy&m1=1
thoughts?
the recent Prints and Multiples sale at Bonhams - 16 Dec 2021, had 4 signed Banksy prints: Results: Choose your Weapon (Bright Pink)£ 100,000 - 150,000 US$ 130,000 - 200,000 WITHDRAWN Grin Reaper£ 50,000 - 70,000 US$ 66,000 - 93,000 PASSED Trolleys (colour)
Sold for £ 40,250 (US$ 53,519) inc. premium Very Little HelpsSold for £ 50,250 (US$ 66,816) inc. premium www.bonhams.com/auctions/26784/#/aa1=1&MR1_length=48&w1=list&q1=banksy&m1=1thoughts?
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by Pipes on Dec 19, 2021 20:19:09 GMT 1, Bonhams has a reputation with Banksy’s - great for buyers - not so good for sellers.
Bonhams has a reputation with Banksy’s - great for buyers - not so good for sellers.
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by pollz66 on Jan 6, 2022 14:06:46 GMT 1, Why on earth would someone pay £9.5k for this when it’s available at source for £2.5k? It’s the same image right? It's not only the same image, it's part of the same edition as the one still available at source.
Why on earth would someone pay £9.5k for this when it’s available at source for £2.5k? It’s the same image right? It's not only the same image, it's part of the same edition as the one still available at source.
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by njr911 on Jan 6, 2022 15:25:10 GMT 1, I'm not sure I understand the difference.
Either way I love the image and have wanted one for years. If anyone has one they want to move/trade please let me know
I'm not sure I understand the difference.
Either way I love the image and have wanted one for years. If anyone has one they want to move/trade please let me know
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Bonhams BRITISH. COOL. 3rd March 2022, 10:00 GMT London, New Bond Street Banksy, Hirst, Miller, Riley, Emin Levine ......... www.bonhams.com/live_auctions/27252/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UK_STS_FIN_MULTI_27252_107022022&cid=21976082&pageLimit=48&page=1www.bonhams.com/auction/27252/lot/158/damien-hirst-british-born-1965-love-all-the-feelings-2016/LOT 158 AR Damien Hirst (British, born 1965) Love all the feelings, 2016 BRITISH. COOL. 3 March 2022, 10:00 GMT London, New Bond Street £12,000 - £18,000
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by George Poppit on Feb 7, 2022 21:01:35 GMT 1, Lots of very uncool bits in that sale. Are Conner Brothers now considered cool?
Lots of very uncool bits in that sale. Are Conner Brothers now considered cool?
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by robo on Feb 7, 2022 23:46:22 GMT 1, Is Britain still considered cool? 😝
Is Britain still considered cool? 😝
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by Blue on Feb 8, 2022 0:12:04 GMT 1, Is Britain still considered cool? 😝 Ha, yeah that ball was dropped a while back...
Is Britain still considered cool? 😝 Ha, yeah that ball was dropped a while back...
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by JFCC on Feb 8, 2022 11:24:05 GMT 1, Oh dear!!!
Bonhams don't really get cool do they!!!
Sorry to say but to me it's all a bit of mess with a bulging catalogue that basically seems to have crammed everything they can find in to it.
I feel sorry for the Banksy sellers as to me that does not look the place to achieve great values in my view!!
That said there are a few nice bits there if you are a buyer and have a lot of time to kill!!
Oh dear!!!
Bonhams don't really get cool do they!!!
Sorry to say but to me it's all a bit of mess with a bulging catalogue that basically seems to have crammed everything they can find in to it.
I feel sorry for the Banksy sellers as to me that does not look the place to achieve great values in my view!!
That said there are a few nice bits there if you are a buyer and have a lot of time to kill!!
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irl1
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Bonhams • Art Auctions • London 🇬🇧, by irl1 on Feb 8, 2022 12:21:12 GMT 1, Oh dear!!! Bonhams don't really get cool do they!!! Sorry to say but to me it's all a bit of mess with a bulging catalogue that basically seems to have crammed everything they can find in to it. I feel sorry for the Banksy sellers as to me that does not look the place to achieve great values in my view!! That said there are a few nice bits there if you are a buyer and have a lot of time to kill!! Yes have to agree with you but it won't be the Banksy results being discussed on here it will be this ...
www.bonhams.com/auction/27252/lot/158/damien-hirst-british-born-1965-love-all-the-feelings-2016/
Oh dear!!! Bonhams don't really get cool do they!!! Sorry to say but to me it's all a bit of mess with a bulging catalogue that basically seems to have crammed everything they can find in to it. I feel sorry for the Banksy sellers as to me that does not look the place to achieve great values in my view!! That said there are a few nice bits there if you are a buyer and have a lot of time to kill!! Yes have to agree with you but it won't be the Banksy results being discussed on here it will be this ... www.bonhams.com/auction/27252/lot/158/damien-hirst-british-born-1965-love-all-the-feelings-2016/
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