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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by mega on Jan 29, 2015 15:37:55 GMT 1, surprised no one has commented on the Morons price yet...
surprised no one has commented on the Morons price yet...
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Jan 29, 2015 15:40:14 GMT 1, We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!! The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home. Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints. In the time I've been monitoring auctions I find that people rarely pay a premium for a slightly different edition. I think the major issue with this sale is that most dealers (I know two sites that changed all their prints to POA yesterday!) are going to use this sale as a benchmark for standard prices while ignoring the special nature of the sale. That is, the large number of prints on offer garnered far more interest and bidders than usual, and that they came from Banksy's former manager. That extra bit of provenance comes at a premium. Just because Steve Lazarides' Trolleys sold for ยฃ10k doesn't make yours worth more than ยฃ6k. Of course, it's only a matter of time before the next large lot of prints is sold and we see if this was nothing more than a fluke.
We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!! The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home. Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints. In the time I've been monitoring auctions I find that people rarely pay a premium for a slightly different edition. I think the major issue with this sale is that most dealers (I know two sites that changed all their prints to POA yesterday!) are going to use this sale as a benchmark for standard prices while ignoring the special nature of the sale. That is, the large number of prints on offer garnered far more interest and bidders than usual, and that they came from Banksy's former manager. That extra bit of provenance comes at a premium. Just because Steve Lazarides' Trolleys sold for ยฃ10k doesn't make yours worth more than ยฃ6k. Of course, it's only a matter of time before the next large lot of prints is sold and we see if this was nothing more than a fluke.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by rosh on Jan 29, 2015 15:58:25 GMT 1, Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices?
Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Matt on Jan 29, 2015 16:09:58 GMT 1, We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!! The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home. Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints. In the time I've been monitoring auctions I find that people rarely pay a premium for a slightly different edition. I think the major issue with this sale is that most dealers (I know two sites that changed all their prints to POA yesterday!) are going to use this sale as a benchmark for standard prices while ignoring the special nature of the sale. That is, the large number of prints on offer garnered far more interest and bidders than usual, and that they came from Banksy's former manager. That extra bit of provenance comes at a premium. Just because Steve Lazarides' Trolleys sold for ยฃ10k doesn't make yours worth more than ยฃ6k. Of course, it's only a matter of time before the next large lot of prints is sold and we see if this was nothing more than a fluke.ย
Agree that low ed with slight changes does not necessarily mean a premium, but given the overall crazy prices here for some mostly unloved prints and big editions, I think it is one of the less crazy / more reasonable
As for galleries I'm sure they will now claim this is the price, but they also know that they won't get the Bonhams craze to carry over to every single buyer out there, so this should balance itself out slowly as some of the galleries will want to start moving prints out of their stock
We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!! The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home. Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints. In the time I've been monitoring auctions I find that people rarely pay a premium for a slightly different edition. I think the major issue with this sale is that most dealers (I know two sites that changed all their prints to POA yesterday!) are going to use this sale as a benchmark for standard prices while ignoring the special nature of the sale. That is, the large number of prints on offer garnered far more interest and bidders than usual, and that they came from Banksy's former manager. That extra bit of provenance comes at a premium. Just because Steve Lazarides' Trolleys sold for ยฃ10k doesn't make yours worth more than ยฃ6k. Of course, it's only a matter of time before the next large lot of prints is sold and we see if this was nothing more than a fluke.ย Agree that low ed with slight changes does not necessarily mean a premium, but given the overall crazy prices here for some mostly unloved prints and big editions, I think it is one of the less crazy / more reasonable As for galleries I'm sure they will now claim this is the price, but they also know that they won't get the Bonhams craze to carry over to every single buyer out there, so this should balance itself out slowly as some of the galleries will want to start moving prints out of their stock
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Jan 29, 2015 16:10:01 GMT 1, Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? Perhaps provenance was not the correct word choice and it's the little extra bit of history as to where the print came from.
Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? Perhaps provenance was not the correct word choice and it's the little extra bit of history as to where the print came from.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:10:44 GMT 1, Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? I think to the average collector, yes. A lot of the old salts on this forum have been long into the Banksy game and the whole 'mystique" thing is not so mysterious But for an average rich guy, and at this point who else can afford them, having the personal connection to Banksy makes it a bit more special than provenance from "Private Collector."
Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? I think to the average collector, yes. A lot of the old salts on this forum have been long into the Banksy game and the whole 'mystique" thing is not so mysterious But for an average rich guy, and at this point who else can afford them, having the personal connection to Banksy makes it a bit more special than provenance from "Private Collector."
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Jan 29, 2015 16:11:49 GMT 1, Btw, most of the prints on Castle Gallery's site and all of the print on Hang Up's site have now been marked as "POA." Yikes.
Btw, most of the prints on Castle Gallery's site and all of the print on Hang Up's site have now been marked as "POA." Yikes.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:15:09 GMT 1, Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? Perhaps provenance was not the correct word choice and it's the little extra bit of history as to where the print came from. Actually provenance is exactly that, the history of ownership.
Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? Perhaps provenance was not the correct word choice and it's the little extra bit of history as to where the print came from. Actually provenance is exactly that, the history of ownership.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lroy on Jan 29, 2015 17:04:50 GMT 1, Reading this thread, clicking on the links and watching the photos make me depressed and give me a big burn out, with suicidal tendencies ... Very frustrated in fact. I would have loved this suitcase, this is there, a true Banksy, stickers, tenners, cd, the life ! and the jokes and the protest of the man ! I see that I have nothing and I prefer to close the log and return in my slippers to the fireside... without chemney off course Not online catalogue or for real?
Reading this thread, clicking on the links and watching the photos make me depressed and give me a big burn out, with suicidal tendencies ... Very frustrated in fact. I would have loved this suitcase, this is there, a true Banksy, stickers, tenners, cd, the life ! and the jokes and the protest of the man ! I see that I have nothing and I prefer to close the log and return in my slippers to the fireside... without chemney off course Not online catalogue or for real?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lroy on Jan 29, 2015 17:11:48 GMT 1, No pDF To download ?
No pDF To download ?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by A.R.T. on Jan 29, 2015 17:23:11 GMT 1, But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago?
But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by rosh on Jan 29, 2015 17:29:20 GMT 1, "The auctions high results were reportedly driven by the important provenance of the Lazarides collection. Lazarides has been widely credited not only for the success of Banksy, but also for spearheading the growth of the street art movement in recent years."
"The auctions high results were reportedly driven by the important provenance of the Lazarides collection. Lazarides has been widely credited not only for the success of Banksy, but also for spearheading the growth of the street art movement in recent years."
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by wishingiwaslucky on Jan 29, 2015 17:30:23 GMT 1, But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago? They were from Laz's personal colletion.......i.e a few he wanted to offload randomly to ready himself for a more important and money making sell off with rarer prints.....maybe
But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago? They were from Laz's personal colletion.......i.e a few he wanted to offload randomly to ready himself for a more important and money making sell off with rarer prints.....maybe
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by SW20 on Jan 29, 2015 17:31:40 GMT 1, It's actually articles like the above that will support the increase in prices from the Bonhams sale.
Bonhams are bringing Banksy to a whole diff audience in general and generating good earnings. They also worked hard on the promotion for this one chasing up their database, past buyers etc and pushing the Banksy pieces.
They gained great results which I think will obviously affect the general market. A lot of galleries that did not have Banksy or street pieces are now inte rested in having a Banksy in their portfolio etc so can def see a rise in prices happening based on this.
Just to clarify I do own Banksy prints etc. So there is an interest or gain in higher prices however the above is just my opinion
It's actually articles like the above that will support the increase in prices from the Bonhams sale.
Bonhams are bringing Banksy to a whole diff audience in general and generating good earnings. They also worked hard on the promotion for this one chasing up their database, past buyers etc and pushing the Banksy pieces.
They gained great results which I think will obviously affect the general market. A lot of galleries that did not have Banksy or street pieces are now inte rested in having a Banksy in their portfolio etc so can def see a rise in prices happening based on this.
Just to clarify I do own Banksy prints etc. So there is an interest or gain in higher prices however the above is just my opinion
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Winter on Jan 29, 2015 17:35:05 GMT 1, I'm curious as to what will happen to the prices of Banksy prints that weren't in the sale yesterday. Will the high prices in the auction have a knock-on effect across all his prints? I'm guessing only time will tell.
I'm curious as to what will happen to the prices of Banksy prints that weren't in the sale yesterday. Will the high prices in the auction have a knock-on effect across all his prints? I'm guessing only time will tell.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 17:37:25 GMT 1, I'm curious as to what will happen to the prices of Banksy prints that weren't in the sale yesterday. Will the high prices in the auction have a knock-on effect across all his prints? I'm guessing only time will tell. nah, CND will pass GWRB in no time
I'm curious as to what will happen to the prices of Banksy prints that weren't in the sale yesterday. Will the high prices in the auction have a knock-on effect across all his prints? I'm guessing only time will tell. nah, CND will pass GWRB in no time
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 17:39:03 GMT 1, and yea that hang-up thing isn't a great sign for buyers, eek
and yea that hang-up thing isn't a great sign for buyers, eek
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Jan 29, 2015 17:49:54 GMT 1, I'm curious as to what will happen to the prices of Banksy prints that weren't in the sale yesterday. Will the high prices in the auction have a knock-on effect across all his prints? I'm guessing only time will tell. My guess is that virtually all galleries will increase prices by at least 20%.
I'm curious as to what will happen to the prices of Banksy prints that weren't in the sale yesterday. Will the high prices in the auction have a knock-on effect across all his prints? I'm guessing only time will tell. My guess is that virtually all galleries will increase prices by at least 20%.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Lroy on Jan 29, 2015 18:10:14 GMT 1, This is really a serious thread...
Anyway, everyone knows if there is a PDF ot download ( second asking, for the trhird one, you are not boliged to answer me ) ?
This is really a serious thread... Anyway, everyone knows if there is a PDF ot download ( second asking, for the trhird one, you are not boliged to answer me ) ?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by bob60 on Jan 29, 2015 18:15:26 GMT 1, But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago? They were from Laz's personal colletion.......i.e a few he wanted to offload randomly to ready himself for a more important and money making sell off with rarer prints.....maybe Not all of them were Laz's because one of them belonged to a mate of mine, and he has never even met him so there is no connection there.
But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago? They were from Laz's personal colletion.......i.e a few he wanted to offload randomly to ready himself for a more important and money making sell off with rarer prints.....maybe Not all of them were Laz's because one of them belonged to a mate of mine, and he has never even met him so there is no connection there.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Simococo on Jan 29, 2015 18:51:24 GMT 1, It sold for 8.5k
It sold for 8.5k
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by MGK1 on Jan 29, 2015 19:22:17 GMT 1, Is the live feed recorded? Is there a way to watch the auction now?
Is the live feed recorded? Is there a way to watch the auction now?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by commissioner on Jan 29, 2015 20:43:15 GMT 1, Great find! What was that used for? Promotional product for the crew.. coasters
flip side
Great find! What was that used for? Promotional product for the crew.. coasters flip side
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 20:46:44 GMT 1, andy at castle put prices back up; don't seem too harsh. 3kgbp for unsigned IFTL.
andy at castle put prices back up; don't seem too harsh. 3kgbp for unsigned IFTL.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by seanburke on Jan 30, 2015 0:42:15 GMT 1, What are people's thoughts on the price the Conor H went for?
What are people's thoughts on the price the Conor H went for?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 1:08:07 GMT 1, Hang up has some banksy prices back up, not too crazy.
I Fought The Law - 8.5kGBP
NBG grey - 11.5kGBP
Nola white - 19kGBP
Color trolleys - 8.5kGBP
Very Little Helps - 11.5kGBP
Laugh Now - 20kGBP
Pulp Fiction - 19kGBP
Weston Super Mare - 9.5kGBP
Bomb hugger - 15kGBP
CYW slate - 17kGBP
Still listed as POA (all signed) --> LIITA, Jack Jill, GR, TM, Grannies, CWSB, SS, GWRB, Sepia Morons, NBG green, random CYWs, Nola AP.
Hang up has some banksy prices back up, not too crazy.
I Fought The Law - 8.5kGBP
NBG grey - 11.5kGBP
Nola white - 19kGBP
Color trolleys - 8.5kGBP
Very Little Helps - 11.5kGBP
Laugh Now - 20kGBP
Pulp Fiction - 19kGBP
Weston Super Mare - 9.5kGBP
Bomb hugger - 15kGBP
CYW slate - 17kGBP
Still listed as POA (all signed) --> LIITA, Jack Jill, GR, TM, Grannies, CWSB, SS, GWRB, Sepia Morons, NBG green, random CYWs, Nola AP.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by wishingiwaslucky on Jan 30, 2015 1:13:45 GMT 1, Hang up has some banksy prices back up, not too crazy. I Fought The Law - 8.5kGBP NBG grey - 11.5kGBP Nola white - 19kGBP Color trolleys - 8.5kGBP Very Little Helps - 11.5kGBP Laugh Now - 20kGBP Pulp Fiction - 19kGBP Weston Super Mare - 9.5kGBP Bomb hugger - 15kGBP CYW slate - 17kGBP Still listed as POA (all signed) --> LIITA, Jack Jill, GR, TM, Grannies, CWSB, SS, GWRB, Sepia Morons, NBG green, random CYWs, Nola AP. NBG green 12k -Andy @ castle
Hang up has some banksy prices back up, not too crazy. I Fought The Law - 8.5kGBP NBG grey - 11.5kGBP Nola white - 19kGBP Color trolleys - 8.5kGBP Very Little Helps - 11.5kGBP Laugh Now - 20kGBP Pulp Fiction - 19kGBP Weston Super Mare - 9.5kGBP Bomb hugger - 15kGBP CYW slate - 17kGBP Still listed as POA (all signed) --> LIITA, Jack Jill, GR, TM, Grannies, CWSB, SS, GWRB, Sepia Morons, NBG green, random CYWs, Nola AP. NBG green 12k -Andy @ castle
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by SW20 on Jan 30, 2015 1:29:28 GMT 1, hehe of course one of the great thing about that sale for the galleries is that you pay full price and still think your getting a great deal. What's worse is you probably are!!
hehe of course one of the great thing about that sale for the galleries is that you pay full price and still think your getting a great deal. What's worse is you probably are!!
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Jan 30, 2015 1:34:53 GMT 1, Hang up has some banksy prices back up, not too crazy. I Fought The Law - 8.5kGBP NBG grey - 11.5kGBP Nola white - 19kGBP Color trolleys - 8.5kGBP Very Little Helps - 11.5kGBP Laugh Now - 20kGBP Pulp Fiction - 19kGBP Weston Super Mare - 9.5kGBP Bomb hugger - 15kGBP CYW slate - 17kGBP Still listed as POA (all signed) --> LIITA, Jack Jill, GR, TM, Grannies, CWSB, SS, GWRB, Sepia Morons, NBG green, random CYWs, Nola AP. NBG green 12k -Andy @ castle
Laugh now at 20k will seem cheap in years to come
Hang up has some banksy prices back up, not too crazy. I Fought The Law - 8.5kGBP NBG grey - 11.5kGBP Nola white - 19kGBP Color trolleys - 8.5kGBP Very Little Helps - 11.5kGBP Laugh Now - 20kGBP Pulp Fiction - 19kGBP Weston Super Mare - 9.5kGBP Bomb hugger - 15kGBP CYW slate - 17kGBP Still listed as POA (all signed) --> LIITA, Jack Jill, GR, TM, Grannies, CWSB, SS, GWRB, Sepia Morons, NBG green, random CYWs, Nola AP. NBG green 12k -Andy @ castle Laugh now at 20k will seem cheap in years to come
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