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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 4:38:49 GMT 1, ugh i was gonna try to pick up another mr. b around september - is this gonna be a s**tshow now? or is this just smoke and mirrors.
some of these are 3x what they were yesterday.
ugh i was gonna try to pick up another mr. b around september - is this gonna be a s**tshow now? or is this just smoke and mirrors.
some of these are 3x what they were yesterday.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Black Apple Art on Jan 29, 2015 5:53:35 GMT 1, Great find! What was that used for?
Great find! What was that used for? |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Black Apple Art on Jan 29, 2015 6:10:35 GMT 1, If true they would have never let the only OG go for Β£40k. That wasn't steve's
BTW if anyone has not yet seen " The Great Contemporary Art Bubble" by the BBC I highly recommend it. If you can't find it give me a PM shout and I'll shoot you a link to the DL. Here's a teaser.
If true they would have never let the only OG go for Β£40k. That wasn't steve's Well if there was shill bidding wouldn't matter who owned it. Driving up over all prices puts exponentially more money in a large collectors pocket. I think this is universes away from a Warhol / Hirst scandal. BTW if anyone has not yet seen " The Great Contemporary Art Bubble" by the BBC I highly recommend it. If you can't find it give me a PM shout and I'll shoot you a link to the DL. Here's a teaser. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Simococo on Jan 29, 2015 6:46:15 GMT 1, It appears the 4 Soup Cans, Gold on Cream, ed.54, failed to sell with estimate of Β£3k - 5k. Even at Β£5k plus the premium would have still been great value.
It sold for 8.5k plus premium
It appears the 4 Soup Cans, Gold on Cream, ed.54, failed to sell with estimate of Β£3k - 5k. Even at Β£5k plus the premium would have still been great value. It sold for 8.5k plus premium |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by thehatshop143 on Jan 29, 2015 6:50:39 GMT 1, Anyone worked out what laz will be walking away with after selling the bank sys
Anyone worked out what laz will be walking away with after selling the bank sys he'll be walking away with a s**t eating grin for starters |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 7:35:44 GMT 1, Guys, I think you missed the most important news about yesterday's auction. A StarWars toy bought 50 GBP in 1991 sold at 18,000 GBP !! Time to leave the Banksy boat and move to toys !!! 
Guys, I think you missed the most important news about yesterday's auction. A StarWars toy bought 50 GBP in 1991 sold at 18,000 GBP !! Time to leave the Banksy boat and move to toys !!! |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Ruggs on Jan 29, 2015 10:25:06 GMT 1, It appears the 4 Soup Cans, Gold on Cream, ed.54, failed to sell with estimate of Β£3k - 5k. Even at Β£5k plus the premium would have still been great value. It sold for 8.5k plus premium
It appears the 4 Soup Cans, Gold on Cream, ed.54, failed to sell with estimate of Β£3k - 5k. Even at Β£5k plus the premium would have still been great value. It sold for 8.5k plus premium Cheers simococo. Looking at all the other Soup Cans that sold I reckon the buyers got great deals especially as two of those sold were editions of only 2. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by rosh on Jan 29, 2015 13:41:18 GMT 1, OMG it was an historic sale ! Can someone say me for how much go the Colour Trolley? It was unsigned?
Lazarides did the job on Banksy Market
OMG it was an historic sale ! Can someone say me for how much go the Colour Trolley? It was unsigned?
Lazarides did the job on Banksy Market
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 13:45:42 GMT 1, OMG it was an historic sale ! Can someone say me for how much go the Colour Trolley? It was unsigned? Lazarides did the job on Banksy Market
Bethlehem Trolley - 10.5 Hammer - Sold for Β£13,750 (β¬18,416) inc. premium
OMG it was an historic sale ! Can someone say me for how much go the Colour Trolley? It was unsigned? Lazarides did the job on Banksy Market Color Trolley is only Signed - 9.5 Hammer - Sold for Β£12,250 (β¬16,407) inc. premium Bethlehem Trolley - 10.5 Hammer - Sold for Β£13,750 (β¬18,416) inc. premium |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by rosh on Jan 29, 2015 13:51:29 GMT 1, Thanks mate for the information. Seems that crazy prices go on here !
Thanks mate for the information. Seems that crazy prices go on here !
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Matt on Jan 29, 2015 14:18:58 GMT 1, We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!!
The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home.
Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints.
We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!!
The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home.
Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by mega on Jan 29, 2015 15:37:55 GMT 1, surprised no one has commented on the Morons price yet...
surprised no one has commented on the Morons price yet...
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Poster Bob on Jan 29, 2015 15:40:14 GMT 1, We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!! The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home. Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints.
We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!! The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home. Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints. In the time I've been monitoring auctions I find that people rarely pay a premium for a slightly different edition. I think the major issue with this sale is that most dealers (I know two sites that changed all their prints to POA yesterday!) are going to use this sale as a benchmark for standard prices while ignoring the special nature of the sale. That is, the large number of prints on offer garnered far more interest and bidders than usual, and that they came from Banksy's former manager. That extra bit of provenance comes at a premium. Just because Steve Lazarides' Trolleys sold for Β£10k doesn't make yours worth more than Β£6k. Of course, it's only a matter of time before the next large lot of prints is sold and we see if this was nothing more than a fluke. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by rosh on Jan 29, 2015 15:58:25 GMT 1, Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices?
Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Matt on Jan 29, 2015 16:09:58 GMT 1, We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!! The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home. Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints. In the time I've been monitoring auctions I find that people rarely pay a premium for a slightly different edition. I think the major issue with this sale is that most dealers (I know two sites that changed all their prints to POA yesterday!) are going to use this sale as a benchmark for standard prices while ignoring the special nature of the sale. That is, the large number of prints on offer garnered far more interest and bidders than usual, and that they came from Banksy's former manager. That extra bit of provenance comes at a premium. Just because Steve Lazarides' Trolleys sold for Β£10k doesn't make yours worth more than Β£6k. Of course, it's only a matter of time before the next large lot of prints is sold and we see if this was nothing more than a fluke.Β
Agree that low ed with slight changes does not necessarily mean a premium, but given the overall crazy prices here for some mostly unloved prints and big editions, I think it is one of the less crazy / more reasonable
As for galleries I'm sure they will now claim this is the price, but they also know that they won't get the Bonhams craze to carry over to every single buyer out there, so this should balance itself out slowly as some of the galleries will want to start moving prints out of their stock
We are going to see a lot of crazy FS threads on here in the coming days !!!! The prices for Flags and CND are just bonkers, but in the big scheme of Bond Street shenanigans it's just chump change for high rollers used to modern art auctions who thought they might have a bit of a laugh and have a bit of Banksy in the loo of their summer home. Bethlehem trolleys looks an ok deal to me, rare, signed, special colors and nice backstory to one of his great prints. In the time I've been monitoring auctions I find that people rarely pay a premium for a slightly different edition. I think the major issue with this sale is that most dealers (I know two sites that changed all their prints to POA yesterday!) are going to use this sale as a benchmark for standard prices while ignoring the special nature of the sale. That is, the large number of prints on offer garnered far more interest and bidders than usual, and that they came from Banksy's former manager. That extra bit of provenance comes at a premium. Just because Steve Lazarides' Trolleys sold for Β£10k doesn't make yours worth more than Β£6k. Of course, it's only a matter of time before the next large lot of prints is sold and we see if this was nothing more than a fluke.Β Agree that low ed with slight changes does not necessarily mean a premium, but given the overall crazy prices here for some mostly unloved prints and big editions, I think it is one of the less crazy / more reasonable As for galleries I'm sure they will now claim this is the price, but they also know that they won't get the Bonhams craze to carry over to every single buyer out there, so this should balance itself out slowly as some of the galleries will want to start moving prints out of their stock |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Poster Bob on Jan 29, 2015 16:10:01 GMT 1, Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices?
Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? Perhaps provenance was not the correct word choice and it's the little extra bit of history as to where the print came from. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:10:44 GMT 1, Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? I think to the average collector, yes. A lot of the old salts on this forum have been long into the Banksy game and the whole 'mystique" thing is not so mysterious But for an average rich guy, and at this point who else can afford them, having the personal connection to Banksy makes it a bit more special than provenance from "Private Collector."
Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? I think to the average collector, yes. A lot of the old salts on this forum have been long into the Banksy game and the whole 'mystique" thing is not so mysterious But for an average rich guy, and at this point who else can afford them, having the personal connection to Banksy makes it a bit more special than provenance from "Private Collector."
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Poster Bob on Jan 29, 2015 16:11:49 GMT 1, Btw, most of the prints on Castle Gallery's site and all of the print on Hang Up's site have now been marked as "POA." Yikes.
Btw, most of the prints on Castle Gallery's site and all of the print on Hang Up's site have now been marked as "POA." Yikes.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:15:09 GMT 1, Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? Perhaps provenance was not the correct word choice and it's the little extra bit of history as to where the print came from.
Do you all think that Lazarides provenance make a + on prices? Perhaps provenance was not the correct word choice and it's the little extra bit of history as to where the print came from. Actually provenance is exactly that, the history of ownership. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Lroy on Jan 29, 2015 17:04:50 GMT 1, Reading this thread, clicking on the links and watching the photos make me depressed and give me a big burn out, with suicidal tendencies ...
Very frustrated in fact. I would have loved this suitcase, this is there, a true Banksy, stickers, tenners, cd, the life ! and the jokes and the protest of the man !
I see that I have nothing and I prefer to close the log and return in my slippers to the fireside... without chemney off course 
Not online catalogue or for real?
Reading this thread, clicking on the links and watching the photos make me depressed and give me a big burn out, with suicidal tendencies ... Very frustrated in fact. I would have loved this suitcase, this is there, a true Banksy, stickers, tenners, cd, the life ! and the jokes and the protest of the man ! I see that I have nothing and I prefer to close the log and return in my slippers to the fireside... without chemney off course Not online catalogue or for real? |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Lroy on Jan 29, 2015 17:11:48 GMT 1, No pDF To download ?
No pDF To download ?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by A.R.T. on Jan 29, 2015 17:23:11 GMT 1, But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago?
But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by rosh on Jan 29, 2015 17:29:20 GMT 1, "The auctions high results were reportedly driven by the important provenance of the Lazarides collection. Lazarides has been widely credited not only for the success of Banksy, but also for spearheading the growth of the street art movement in recent years."
"The auctions high results were reportedly driven by the important provenance of the Lazarides collection. Lazarides has been widely credited not only for the success of Banksy, but also for spearheading the growth of the street art movement in recent years."
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by wishingiwaslucky on Jan 29, 2015 17:30:23 GMT 1, But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago?
But these weren't Laz's prints right? I thought they came from a collector he gave them to years ago? They were from Laz's personal colletion.......i.e a few he wanted to offload randomly to ready himself for a more important and money making sell off with rarer prints.....maybe |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by SW20 on Jan 29, 2015 17:31:40 GMT 1, It's actually articles like the above that will support the increase in prices from the Bonhams sale.
Bonhams are bringing Banksy to a whole diff audience in general and generating good earnings. They also worked hard on the promotion for this one chasing up their database, past buyers etc and pushing the Banksy pieces.
They gained great results which I think will obviously affect the general market. A lot of galleries that did not have Banksy or street pieces are now inte rested in having a Banksy in their portfolio etc so can def see a rise in prices happening based on this.
Just to clarify I do own Banksy prints etc. So there is an interest or gain in higher prices however the above is just my opinion
It's actually articles like the above that will support the increase in prices from the Bonhams sale.
Bonhams are bringing Banksy to a whole diff audience in general and generating good earnings. They also worked hard on the promotion for this one chasing up their database, past buyers etc and pushing the Banksy pieces.
They gained great results which I think will obviously affect the general market. A lot of galleries that did not have Banksy or street pieces are now inte rested in having a Banksy in their portfolio etc so can def see a rise in prices happening based on this.
Just to clarify I do own Banksy prints etc. So there is an interest or gain in higher prices however the above is just my opinion
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Winter on Jan 29, 2015 17:35:05 GMT 1, I'm curious as to what will happen to the prices of Banksy prints that weren't in the sale yesterday. Will the high prices in the auction have a knock-on effect across all his prints? I'm guessing only time will tell.
I'm curious as to what will happen to the prices of Banksy prints that weren't in the sale yesterday. Will the high prices in the auction have a knock-on effect across all his prints? I'm guessing only time will tell.
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