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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by 19818914 on Mar 6, 2019 19:24:59 GMT 1, This is great. I think Iโll be able to get one after all.
This is great. I think Iโll be able to get one after all.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 6, 2019 19:25:26 GMT 1, only 68 k
only 68 k
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 19:25:39 GMT 1, So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve
Did I mention I hate Bonhams
So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve
Did I mention I hate Bonhams
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Eton Groover on Mar 6, 2019 19:26:12 GMT 1, Not typical of the artists genre Not the artists usual medium Religious imagery Itโs an edition not an original. I think the estimate is extremely bullish
Iโll give myself a pat on the back
Not typical of the artists genre Not the artists usual medium Religious imagery Itโs an edition not an original. I think the estimate is extremely bullish Iโll give myself a pat on the back
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Winter on Mar 6, 2019 19:26:34 GMT 1, Ok who said ยฃ300k?!!
Ok who said ยฃ300k?!!
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 6, 2019 19:27:03 GMT 1, So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve Did I mention I hate Bonhams seems like bonhams is the cheapest way to own a banksy
So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve Did I mention I hate Bonhams seems like bonhams is the cheapest way to own a banksy
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 6, 2019 19:27:55 GMT 1, aahahhahahahahahahah
me!!
i'll take commission as art consultant hahahahaha
aahahhahahahahahahah me!! i'll take commission as art consultant hahahahaha
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 19:28:37 GMT 1, So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve Did I mention I hate Bonhams seems like bonhams is the cheapest way to own a banksy
No shit LOL
So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve Did I mention I hate Bonhams seems like bonhams is the cheapest way to own a banksy No shit LOL
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Mar 6, 2019 19:31:20 GMT 1, This is great. I think Iโll be able to get one after all. Try catawiki next week
This is great. I think Iโll be able to get one after all. Try catawiki next week
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19818914
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by 19818914 on Mar 6, 2019 19:33:35 GMT 1, Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached?
Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pawel on Mar 6, 2019 19:35:30 GMT 1, Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached?
This one didn't sell so obviously the seller wants more...
Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached? This one didn't sell so obviously the seller wants more...
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Mar 6, 2019 19:35:56 GMT 1, Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached? It never made the reserve so really it could have been the house bidding from 60 to 68
Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached? It never made the reserve so really it could have been the house bidding from 60 to 68
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Matt on Mar 6, 2019 19:36:28 GMT 1, Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached?
Question isnโt if it is fair but if it is likely.
And it isnโt
This piece was probably in the wrong place at the wrong time, but most of all owners would have no incentive to let go of theirs for a measly margin
Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached? Question isnโt if it is fair but if it is likely. And it isnโt This piece was probably in the wrong place at the wrong time, but most of all owners would have no incentive to let go of theirs for a measly margin
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19818914
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by 19818914 on Mar 6, 2019 19:38:20 GMT 1, Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached? Question isnโt if it is fair but if it is likely. And it isnโt This piece was probably in the wrong place at the wrong time, but most of all owners would have no incentive to let go of theirs for a measly margin
Understandable. I canโt help but think some owners would rather use that cash for other priorities in life.
Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached? Question isnโt if it is fair but if it is likely. And it isnโt This piece was probably in the wrong place at the wrong time, but most of all owners would have no incentive to let go of theirs for a measly margin Understandable. I canโt help but think some owners would rather use that cash for other priorities in life.
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19818914
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by 19818914 on Mar 6, 2019 19:39:30 GMT 1, Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached? This one didn't sell so obviously the seller wants more...
Only 2k more to reserve. And does the auction house charge the seller fees aside from the premium they make?
Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached? This one didn't sell so obviously the seller wants more... Only 2k more to reserve. And does the auction house charge the seller fees aside from the premium they make?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 19:41:08 GMT 1, Question isnโt if it is fair but if it is likely. And it isnโt This piece was probably in the wrong place at the wrong time, but most of all owners would have no incentive to let go of theirs for a measly margin Understandable. I canโt help but think some owners would rather use that cash for other priorities in life though.
Put it out there, you never know
I wouldn't, but it only takes one
Question isnโt if it is fair but if it is likely. And it isnโt This piece was probably in the wrong place at the wrong time, but most of all owners would have no incentive to let go of theirs for a measly margin Understandable. I canโt help but think some owners would rather use that cash for other priorities in life though. Put it out there, you never know I wouldn't, but it only takes one
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by 19818914 on Mar 6, 2019 19:45:58 GMT 1, Thanks. I thought this would be out of reach but itโs a strong work for 90k usd.
Thanks. I thought this would be out of reach but itโs a strong work for 90k usd.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dexter Bulldog on Mar 6, 2019 19:52:24 GMT 1, Not really
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by silvermyn on Mar 6, 2019 19:59:44 GMT 1, Thoughts on what this goes for tomorrow ? Lets sweepstake it I dont think it will hit low estimate as i have zero faith in Bonhams. Come on Bonhams show me how wrong i am My guesstimate Sub 70k And the winner was... Manty!
Thoughts on what this goes for tomorrow ? Lets sweepstake it I dont think it will hit low estimate as i have zero faith in Bonhams. Come on Bonhams show me how wrong i am My guesstimate Sub 70k And the winner was... Manty!
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by silvermyn on Mar 6, 2019 20:01:17 GMT 1, Manty, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. No way on this earth will this not go over the high estimate! I am going to go for ยฃ170k hammer Hammer at ยฃ90k I was a bit too optimistic
Manty, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. No way on this earth will this not go over the high estimate! I am going to go for ยฃ170k hammer Hammer at ยฃ90k I was a bit too optimistic
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Dexter Bulldog on Mar 6, 2019 20:02:48 GMT 1, I really donโt necessarily blame the auction house here I think this piece is a challenge for a number of reasons mentioned, mainly how to display it and itโs context. Combining those two actually it may be initially difficult for (others) to decipher it from just a regular crucifix with a rope, depending how high up it is. Whereas cwsb jumps out what itโs trying to tell you. Iโm not into the blatant religious statement pieces but Iโd much rather have that print than this even if there were 1000 printed and only 3 of the hooks made. People saying 200, you have to think not many people would buy this over a gwb print
I really donโt necessarily blame the auction house here I think this piece is a challenge for a number of reasons mentioned, mainly how to display it and itโs context. Combining those two actually it may be initially difficult for (others) to decipher it from just a regular crucifix with a rope, depending how high up it is. Whereas cwsb jumps out what itโs trying to tell you. Iโm not into the blatant religious statement pieces but Iโd much rather have that print than this even if there were 1000 printed and only 3 of the hooks made. People saying 200, you have to think not many people would buy this over a gwb print
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19818914
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by 19818914 on Mar 6, 2019 20:14:49 GMT 1, I really donโt necessarily blame the auction house here I think this piece is a challenge for a number of reasons mentioned, mainly how to display it and itโs context. Combining those two actually it may be initially difficult for (others) to decipher it from just a regular crucifix with a rope, depending how high up it is. Whereas cwsb jumps out what itโs trying to tell you. Iโm not into the blatant religious statement pieces but Iโd much rather have that print than this even if there were 1000 printed and only 3 of the hooks made. People saying 200, you have to think not many people would buy this over a Girl With Balloon print
Itโs just tiring. Banksy is so much more than a girl with balloon.
I really donโt necessarily blame the auction house here I think this piece is a challenge for a number of reasons mentioned, mainly how to display it and itโs context. Combining those two actually it may be initially difficult for (others) to decipher it from just a regular crucifix with a rope, depending how high up it is. Whereas cwsb jumps out what itโs trying to tell you. Iโm not into the blatant religious statement pieces but Iโd much rather have that print than this even if there were 1000 printed and only 3 of the hooks made. People saying 200, you have to think not many people would buy this over a Girl With Balloon print Itโs just tiring. Banksy is so much more than a girl with balloon.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by artearte on Mar 6, 2019 20:19:54 GMT 1, I think Bonhams was biding on it to get the reserved. Worse Banksy in 20 years. And box is not hand made by banksy.
I think Bonhams was biding on it to get the reserved. Worse Banksy in 20 years. And box is not hand made by banksy.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Mar 6, 2019 20:49:32 GMT 1, I'm confused on how these auctions work, if the reserve was a bit less than the low estimate and it failed to sell, does that mean it was chandelier bid up to ยฃ68k to try and get it over the line?
It's all a bit of a let down, I was actually hoping the bullish pundits would be correct, on the bright side a white NOLA sold for over ยฃ50k this week at Forum auctions. I just think the subject matter and the awkwardness of the piece wasn't appealing to the right collectors with deep enough pockets, and the box wasn't enough to pull it over the line. I'm sure the owner of these can still sell them privately for a nice profit on the secondary or they could enjoy them on their walls as I expect was the reason they bought them in the first place.
I'm confused on how these auctions work, if the reserve was a bit less than the low estimate and it failed to sell, does that mean it was chandelier bid up to ยฃ68k to try and get it over the line?
It's all a bit of a let down, I was actually hoping the bullish pundits would be correct, on the bright side a white NOLA sold for over ยฃ50k this week at Forum auctions. I just think the subject matter and the awkwardness of the piece wasn't appealing to the right collectors with deep enough pockets, and the box wasn't enough to pull it over the line. I'm sure the owner of these can still sell them privately for a nice profit on the secondary or they could enjoy them on their walls as I expect was the reason they bought them in the first place.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 20:50:13 GMT 1, Lets sweepstake it I dont think it will hit low estimate as i have zero faith in Bonhams. Come on Bonhams show me how wrong i am My guesstimate Sub 70k And the winner was... Manty!
Thank-You
I am not happy being right, but if people dont know its for sale they will have a problem bidding on it
have I mentioned how much I hate Bonhams?
Lets sweepstake it I dont think it will hit low estimate as i have zero faith in Bonhams. Come on Bonhams show me how wrong i am My guesstimate Sub 70k And the winner was... Manty! Thank-You I am not happy being right, but if people dont know its for sale they will have a problem bidding on it have I mentioned how much I hate Bonhams?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by witchdoctor on Mar 6, 2019 20:52:19 GMT 1, Looks like Banksy`s dead guys. Sell!
Looks like Banksy`s dead guys. Sell!
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by lee3 on Mar 6, 2019 20:55:48 GMT 1, I'm confused on how these auctions work, if the reserve was a bit less than the low estimate and it failed to sell, does that mean it was chandelier bid up to ยฃ68k to try and get it over the line? It's all a bit of a let down, I was actually hoping the bullish pundits would be correct, on the bright side a white NOLA sold for over ยฃ50k this week at Forum auctions. I just think the subject matter and the awkwardness of the piece wasn't appealing too many people, and the box wasn't enough to pull it over the line. I'm sure the owner of these can still sell them privately for a nice profit on the secondary or they could enjoy them on their walls as I expect was the reason they bought them in the first place. You can be certain the reserve was the low estimate in this case as it is most of the time. As the sales approach the houses will try to get consignors to lower their reserve below the low estimate for works with minimal interest. Obviously this consignor did not lower their reserve or it would have sold at 68 IF the 68 were a true bid. As a habit I always negate any bid on an unsold lot as they are more often than not simply a chandelier. Important to note that the houses have 30 days minimum to work the unsold lots for post sale bids where the consignor may or may not lower their reserve. I've even seen lots that went unsold at auction that sold post sale for more than the high estimate so anything can and does happen.
I'm confused on how these auctions work, if the reserve was a bit less than the low estimate and it failed to sell, does that mean it was chandelier bid up to ยฃ68k to try and get it over the line? It's all a bit of a let down, I was actually hoping the bullish pundits would be correct, on the bright side a white NOLA sold for over ยฃ50k this week at Forum auctions. I just think the subject matter and the awkwardness of the piece wasn't appealing too many people, and the box wasn't enough to pull it over the line. I'm sure the owner of these can still sell them privately for a nice profit on the secondary or they could enjoy them on their walls as I expect was the reason they bought them in the first place. You can be certain the reserve was the low estimate in this case as it is most of the time. As the sales approach the houses will try to get consignors to lower their reserve below the low estimate for works with minimal interest. Obviously this consignor did not lower their reserve or it would have sold at 68 IF the 68 were a true bid. As a habit I always negate any bid on an unsold lot as they are more often than not simply a chandelier. Important to note that the houses have 30 days minimum to work the unsold lots for post sale bids where the consignor may or may not lower their reserve. I've even seen lots that went unsold at auction that sold post sale for more than the high estimate so anything can and does happen.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by artearte on Mar 6, 2019 20:58:53 GMT 1, And the winner was... Manty! Thank-You I am not happy being right, but if people dont know its for sale they will have a problem bidding on it have I mentioned how much I hate Bonhams?
You should buy what you like and not what you think you will make money with...
And the winner was... Manty! Thank-You I am not happy being right, but if people dont know its for sale they will have a problem bidding on it have I mentioned how much I hate Bonhams? You should buy what you like and not what you think you will make money with...
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:11:34 GMT 1, This piece is the perfect example of terrible art loved for no reason other than because of who made it.
People spunking over a cardboard box with a couple of stencils! Like that makes up for a crucifix for ยฃ100,000๐.
Shite
This piece is the perfect example of terrible art loved for no reason other than because of who made it.
People spunking over a cardboard box with a couple of stencils! Like that makes up for a crucifix for ยฃ100,000๐.
Shite
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:14:16 GMT 1, Thanks. I thought this would be out of reach but itโs a strong work for 90k usd. if you have 90k USD to spare for decoration in a kids room then im sure you can sdd a few quid to it, go speak to Bonhsms and you never know.
Thanks. I thought this would be out of reach but itโs a strong work for 90k usd. if you have 90k USD to spare for decoration in a kids room then im sure you can sdd a few quid to it, go speak to Bonhsms and you never know.
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