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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jamesreeve5 on Feb 7, 2008 0:18:38 GMT 1, Did you just copy that from one of your so called books
"so called books" haha, I'm at work, wrote it off the top my head.
Did you just copy that from one of your so called books "so called books" haha, I'm at work, wrote it off the top my head. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by crazyarsemother on Feb 7, 2008 0:24:25 GMT 1, What? Were they not really books? Whats this have you been asking to look at pretend books. You trickster.
Just doing my dissertaion which has to be in on Friday about Relational Aesthetics and Bourriaud's reaction to Greenberganist Modernist theories - don't suppose you know much about that to do you James? Like about 8,000 words in my in tray by the morning?
What? Were they not really books? Whats this have you been asking to look at pretend books. You trickster.
Just doing my dissertaion which has to be in on Friday about Relational Aesthetics and Bourriaud's reaction to Greenberganist Modernist theories - don't suppose you know much about that to do you James? Like about 8,000 words in my in tray by the morning?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jamesreeve5 on Feb 7, 2008 0:28:17 GMT 1, oh yea I'll send you a PM in about 10 minutes!
oh yea I'll send you a PM in about 10 minutes!
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by crazyarsemother on Feb 7, 2008 0:35:13 GMT 1, Great but don't make me look in at any more books. I don't need a load of books to know that Tiravanija getting a load of mates around to eat curry is a load of sh@e.
Great but don't make me look in at any more books. I don't need a load of books to know that Tiravanija getting a load of mates around to eat curry is a load of sh@ e. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 7, 2008 1:01:19 GMT 1, This thread illustrates perfectly how "underground / genre breaking art" is perceived. I love Pollock, Rothko, abstract expressionism but also love street art. Both incite passion and vitriol in equal measure - when abstract expressionism first came into public conciousness some people thought it was crap the same view some people have of Banksy being puerile etc etc.
People if they can be arsed should read the "intellectualism" surrounding art purely for some sort of perspective other than their own and it might provide them with added insight. I agree with ricosg on Twombly but then again we are both big abstract fans and our street art side also leans to some abstraction i.e. Parla. This thread also illustrates the diversity of people who by street art.
This thread illustrates perfectly how "underground / genre breaking art" is perceived. I love Pollock, Rothko, abstract expressionism but also love street art. Both incite passion and vitriol in equal measure - when abstract expressionism first came into public conciousness some people thought it was crap the same view some people have of Banksy being puerile etc etc.
People if they can be arsed should read the "intellectualism" surrounding art purely for some sort of perspective other than their own and it might provide them with added insight. I agree with ricosg on Twombly but then again we are both big abstract fans and our street art side also leans to some abstraction i.e. Parla. This thread also illustrates the diversity of people who by street art.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by hollywouldifhecoul on Feb 7, 2008 1:15:08 GMT 1, Mose is one smart mofo. Mos def dig the style in which you use our written language, brother. "Valuation does not equal, or even usually reflect, merit." That phrase is art within itself.
Mose is one smart mofo. Mos def dig the style in which you use our written language, brother. "Valuation does not equal, or even usually reflect, merit." That phrase is art within itself.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by darjeeling on Feb 7, 2008 4:36:35 GMT 1, There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum. And by meaning I'm not talking about some obvious anti corporate statement or some stupid joke. This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here. Twombly is in every museum worth a shit in the western world and has dozens of books and hundreds of exhibitions to his credit. When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare.
Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great?
There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum. And by meaning I'm not talking about some obvious anti corporate statement or some stupid joke. This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here. Twombly is in every museum worth a shit in the western world and has dozens of books and hundreds of exhibitions to his credit. When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare.
Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by artstylee on Feb 7, 2008 6:37:48 GMT 1, Just the fact that you guys can argue weather Twombly or Banksy is better just proves how powerful the art is.
At the end of the day, both painters were just expressing what's real to them at the time. & Both are innovational for their time.
An arguement stating that one or the other is "Better" than the other is going to go nowhere.
You can't discredit Banksy, because if there was no Banksy forum we (the younger art collecting community) probably wouldn't be discussing Twombly at all. The high end academic art community is usually 3 steps behind which the current auction prices reflect.
Although that "switchblade" comment was funny,
The majority of older people can't relate to this BRP/POW/LAZ Poster/Street/Stencil Art movement. Because it's not really for them.
Chances are if you had a Twombly and, god forbid, passed away, your kids would sell it to buy up Banksy stuff.
"New School Rules" - Russy Simmons (Rev. Run son).
PS. Banksy haters are going to look dumb when prints are selling like Warhol stuff 10-15 years from now.
Just the fact that you guys can argue weather Twombly or Banksy is better just proves how powerful the art is.
At the end of the day, both painters were just expressing what's real to them at the time. & Both are innovational for their time.
An arguement stating that one or the other is "Better" than the other is going to go nowhere.
You can't discredit Banksy, because if there was no Banksy forum we (the younger art collecting community) probably wouldn't be discussing Twombly at all. The high end academic art community is usually 3 steps behind which the current auction prices reflect.
Although that "switchblade" comment was funny,
The majority of older people can't relate to this BRP/POW/LAZ Poster/Street/Stencil Art movement. Because it's not really for them.
Chances are if you had a Twombly and, god forbid, passed away, your kids would sell it to buy up Banksy stuff.
"New School Rules" - Russy Simmons (Rev. Run son).
PS. Banksy haters are going to look dumb when prints are selling like Warhol stuff 10-15 years from now.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jamesreeve5 on Feb 7, 2008 8:57:39 GMT 1,
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by fergy on Feb 7, 2008 9:50:51 GMT 1, "All of you are idiots. Seriously, do some research and shut your mouths. Cy Twombly is one of the most influential artists of the last 100 years. You know, like how the Beatles affected every piece of music that came after them. Kinda like that. yea"
Well said.
A forum for someone that makes stencils from photocopies is hardly the place to slag trained veteran artists. I imagine that Twombly piece was a doodle intended for inclusion on a a bigger canvas.
He didn't put that sketch on a pedestal - the buyers did you burke.
Anyway, I loved the way Twombly included scribbles and writing in his work - when I first saw his work it reminded me of a bus stop on an estate I lived in. Now thats 'street' for ya! ;D
"All of you are idiots. Seriously, do some research and shut your mouths. Cy Twombly is one of the most influential artists of the last 100 years. You know, like how the Beatles affected every piece of music that came after them. Kinda like that. yea"
Well said.
A forum for someone that makes stencils from photocopies is hardly the place to slag trained veteran artists. I imagine that Twombly piece was a doodle intended for inclusion on a a bigger canvas.
He didn't put that sketch on a pedestal - the buyers did you burke.
Anyway, I loved the way Twombly included scribbles and writing in his work - when I first saw his work it reminded me of a bus stop on an estate I lived in. Now thats 'street' for ya! ;D
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by stuey09 on Feb 7, 2008 10:36:37 GMT 1, There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum. And by meaning I'm not talking about some obvious anti corporate statement or some stupid joke. This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here. Twombly is in every museum worth a s**t in the western world and has dozens of books and hundreds of exhibitions to his credit. When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare. Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great?
If you really want to present a reasoned argument, you might get further by typing from the brain rather than the heart.
There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum.
Does this mean that 10% of the crap has more energy and meaning...
When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare.
If you're going to single out artists at least get their names right. Also some people on here have been collecting Nick and Beejoir's work for a lot longer than you're giving them credit for and are not necessarily interested in 'next months flavor' (sic)
Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great?
Who're 'You guys'? Don't tar everyone on here with the same brush. There are plenty of open minded forum members with a sound appreciation of diverse art that can see through the obvious.
This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here.
I was just thinking the same.
There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum. And by meaning I'm not talking about some obvious anti corporate statement or some stupid joke. This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here. Twombly is in every museum worth a s**t in the western world and has dozens of books and hundreds of exhibitions to his credit. When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare. Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great? If you really want to present a reasoned argument, you might get further by typing from the brain rather than the heart. There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum.Does this mean that 10% of the crap has more energy and meaning... When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare.If you're going to single out artists at least get their names right. Also some people on here have been collecting Nick and Beejoir's work for a lot longer than you're giving them credit for and are not necessarily interested in 'next months flavor' (sic) Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great?Who're 'You guys'? Don't tar everyone on here with the same brush. There are plenty of open minded forum members with a sound appreciation of diverse art that can see through the obvious. This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here. I was just thinking the same. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jB on Feb 8, 2008 4:52:55 GMT 1, There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum. And by meaning I'm not talking about some obvious anti corporate statement or some stupid joke. This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here. Twombly is in every museum worth a s**t in the western world and has dozens of books and hundreds of exhibitions to his credit. When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare. Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great? If you really want to present a reasoned argument, you might get further by typing from the brain rather than the heart. There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum.Does this mean that 10% of the crap has more energy and meaning... When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare.If you're going to single out artists at least get their names right. Also some people on here have been collecting Nick and Beejoir's work for a lot longer than you're giving them credit for and are not necessarily interested in 'next months flavor' (sic) Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great?Who're 'You guys'? Don't tar everyone on here with the same brush. There are plenty of open minded forum members with a sound appreciation of diverse art that can see through the obvious. This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here. I was just thinking the same.
Bravo stuey! couldnt say it better myself
There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum. And by meaning I'm not talking about some obvious anti corporate statement or some stupid joke. This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here. Twombly is in every museum worth a s**t in the western world and has dozens of books and hundreds of exhibitions to his credit. When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare. Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great? If you really want to present a reasoned argument, you might get further by typing from the brain rather than the heart. There's more energy and meaning put into that Twombly canvas than in 90% of the crap touted around this forum.Does this mean that 10% of the crap has more energy and meaning... When nick walker, beejoiur, or whatever next months flavor is accomplishes that then you you might have something to compare.If you're going to single out artists at least get their names right. Also some people on here have been collecting Nick and Beejoir's work for a lot longer than you're giving them credit for and are not necessarily interested in 'next months flavor' (sic) Maybe if he spray painted some corporate logos and switchblades on that canvas you guys would think it's great?Who're 'You guys'? Don't tar everyone on here with the same brush. There are plenty of open minded forum members with a sound appreciation of diverse art that can see through the obvious. This kind of moronic post makes me wonder why I even bother to come here. I was just thinking the same. Bravo stuey! couldnt say it better myself |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by pezlow on Feb 8, 2008 10:57:20 GMT 1, I think I am going to start a thread about marcel duchamp next. That should provoke some reaction  Or maybe Carl Andre....
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by pezlow on Feb 8, 2008 11:02:12 GMT 1, In fact here you go. What do you guys think of this art
James/ricosg you are not allowed to answer for a while
In fact here you go. What do you guys think of this art James/ricosg you are not allowed to answer for a while |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Fearkiller on Feb 8, 2008 11:10:22 GMT 1, I think I am going to start a thread about marcel duchamp next. That should provoke some reaction Or maybe Carl Andre....
morning,
why not posting some of Hermann nitschΒ΄s work?
:-D
this should provoke some reactions:
*not safe for work or for vegetarians*
www.kreuz.net/article/article.5246.attachment1.jpg
greetz
I think I am going to start a thread about marcel duchamp next. That should provoke some reaction Or maybe Carl Andre.... morning, why not posting some of Hermann nitschΒ΄s work? :-D this should provoke some reactions: *not safe for work or for vegetarians* www.kreuz.net/article/article.5246.attachment1.jpggreetz |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by benya on Feb 8, 2008 12:04:34 GMT 1, In fact here you go. What do you guys think of this art James/ricosg you are not allowed to answer for a while
ummmmm......
it is an extremely important peice in the history of art
In fact here you go. What do you guys think of this art James/ricosg you are not allowed to answer for a while ummmmm...... it is an extremely important peice in the history of art |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jamesreeve5 on Feb 8, 2008 18:00:32 GMT 1, I had my first real "moment of enlightenment" about art where that light bulb goes on over your head while looking at Duchamp's "A Bride Stripped Bare by her Bachelors" (the original though, not the copy of it thats in the Tate)
I had my first real "moment of enlightenment" about art where that light bulb goes on over your head while looking at Duchamp's "A Bride Stripped Bare by her Bachelors" (the original though, not the copy of it thats in the Tate)
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jcjcjc on Feb 8, 2008 18:24:56 GMT 1, This is one of the most impassioned posts I've read on the forum and raises some interesting questions:
Does price = quality? By extension, does art need to have a financial value other than to satisfy the vanity of those that want to own it?
Is the person who starts a movement better than the person who evolves it to take it where it needs to be?
History is easy to see in retrospect but can you see what is relevant whilst it is happening?
What you chaps think?
This is one of the most impassioned posts I've read on the forum and raises some interesting questions:
Does price = quality? By extension, does art need to have a financial value other than to satisfy the vanity of those that want to own it?
Is the person who starts a movement better than the person who evolves it to take it where it needs to be?
History is easy to see in retrospect but can you see what is relevant whilst it is happening?
What you chaps think?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Gurn on Feb 8, 2008 18:26:50 GMT 1, Duchamp's Fountain changed the way people thought about what is and isn't art and still is an incredibly subversive piece.To say this isn't art is to say that grafitti isn't art,but,to say this is art is to say that two chinese guys pissing on it is also art.
Duchamp's Fountain changed the way people thought about what is and isn't art and still is an incredibly subversive piece.To say this isn't art is to say that grafitti isn't art,but,to say this is art is to say that two chinese guys pissing on it is also art.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jcjcjc on Feb 8, 2008 18:45:26 GMT 1, "two chinese guys pissing on it is also art" why would that not be art if the guys doing the pissing thought it was art?
How is that less artistic than someone piling bricks on the floor or sh**ing in a can?
What art is and was has changed through the ages. How are we to say what the art of tomorrow will be.
"two chinese guys pissing on it is also art" why would that not be art if the guys doing the pissing thought it was art?
How is that less artistic than someone piling bricks on the floor or sh**ing in a can?
What art is and was has changed through the ages. How are we to say what the art of tomorrow will be.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Gurn on Feb 8, 2008 18:51:44 GMT 1, "two chinese guys pissing on it is also art" why would that not be art if the guys doing the pissing thought it was art? How is that less artistic than someone piling bricks on the floor or sh**ing in a can? What art is and was has changed through the ages. How are we to say what the art of tomorrow will be.
That is my point exactly,and also Duchamp's IMO
"two chinese guys pissing on it is also art" why would that not be art if the guys doing the pissing thought it was art? How is that less artistic than someone piling bricks on the floor or sh**ing in a can? What art is and was has changed through the ages. How are we to say what the art of tomorrow will be. That is my point exactly,and also Duchamp's IMO |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jcjcjc on Feb 8, 2008 18:57:42 GMT 1, yep! agreed.
yep! agreed.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jamesreeve5 on Feb 8, 2008 19:19:03 GMT 1, wait a second... has a leaf turned on the Banksy Forum?
wait a second... has a leaf turned on the Banksy Forum?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by carlito on Feb 8, 2008 19:24:30 GMT 1, almost impossible to see what is relevant as it's happening, you can have a discerning eye and an understanding, but this area is moving so quickly with so many variables it's very difficult to pinpoint those that withstand the test of time other than those at the very top....value is in the eye of the beholder, by extension the eye now reaches over the Internet via ebay etc and gives u bigger (if not necessarily better) picture
almost impossible to see what is relevant as it's happening, you can have a discerning eye and an understanding, but this area is moving so quickly with so many variables it's very difficult to pinpoint those that withstand the test of time other than those at the very top....value is in the eye of the beholder, by extension the eye now reaches over the Internet via ebay etc and gives u bigger (if not necessarily better) picture
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by artstylee on Feb 8, 2008 20:47:39 GMT 1, Nick Walker signed/doodled 2-8-08 Vandal Air Balloon Poster from the show is selling for 770 on the bay. With a full day left of bidding. Surprising to see it's worth that much to collectors.
But considering the leading authority wrote,,.....
Juxtapoz magazine wrote on their website homepage about the event: "In case you havenβt heard all the art buzz revolving around Nick Walker, aka The Apish Angel, the Carmichael Gallery in Los Angeles has already sold out Walkerβs first American solo exhibition, titled Pretty Decorating after its opening February 2nd. Folks just canβt seem to get enough of this English street artist!
Yesterday marked the world's first Urban Art Auction at Bonhams London. Two of Walker's works were included in the sale: an artist print of The Morning After (London Version), and an original Moona Lisa, 2006, signed with artist's monogram, stencil spray paint and acrylic on canvas.
Nick Walker was the only artist in Bonhams Urban Art Auction who is also showing a solo exhibition of new works in the United States during the time as the auction, marking a major historical event. Bonhams Urban Art Auction is a highly anticipated event, and with Nick Walker's successful US debut at Carmichael Gallery, he is on the radar as the artist to watch and collect"
So because the show was a "Major Historic Event" people really want a show poster.
Vandal Air 2-8-08 Show/Exhibition Poster wasn't for sale at the show there was a stack that if you bought a print they'd let you have One. Looked like a stack of maybee 100 or so.
Being that it was a promotional only print.
With Nick Walker's signature/doodle written on it, the poster becomes alot more collectable than I thought they would be.
The 2-8-08 Poster Signed by NW It might be rarer than the Hollywood Print because NW only signed a few dozen, then stopped because of handcramps and being exhausted. Hands still stained w/ paint from the day/night before he was over it and decided to stop signing the print semi-dissappointing the rest of the long line waiting for the artist to sign their poster. They couldn't be too mad that he couldn't sign them all they all allready got a free Promotional print. Still a great show.
Nick Walker signed/doodled 2-8-08 Vandal Air Balloon Poster from the show is selling for 770 on the bay. With a full day left of bidding. Surprising to see it's worth that much to collectors.
But considering the leading authority wrote,,.....
Juxtapoz magazine wrote on their website homepage about the event: "In case you havenβt heard all the art buzz revolving around Nick Walker, aka The Apish Angel, the Carmichael Gallery in Los Angeles has already sold out Walkerβs first American solo exhibition, titled Pretty Decorating after its opening February 2nd. Folks just canβt seem to get enough of this English street artist!
Yesterday marked the world's first Urban Art Auction at Bonhams London. Two of Walker's works were included in the sale: an artist print of The Morning After (London Version), and an original Moona Lisa, 2006, signed with artist's monogram, stencil spray paint and acrylic on canvas.
Nick Walker was the only artist in Bonhams Urban Art Auction who is also showing a solo exhibition of new works in the United States during the time as the auction, marking a major historical event. Bonhams Urban Art Auction is a highly anticipated event, and with Nick Walker's successful US debut at Carmichael Gallery, he is on the radar as the artist to watch and collect"
So because the show was a "Major Historic Event" people really want a show poster.
Vandal Air 2-8-08 Show/Exhibition Poster wasn't for sale at the show there was a stack that if you bought a print they'd let you have One. Looked like a stack of maybee 100 or so.
Being that it was a promotional only print.
With Nick Walker's signature/doodle written on it, the poster becomes alot more collectable than I thought they would be.
The 2-8-08 Poster Signed by NW It might be rarer than the Hollywood Print because NW only signed a few dozen, then stopped because of handcramps and being exhausted. Hands still stained w/ paint from the day/night before he was over it and decided to stop signing the print semi-dissappointing the rest of the long line waiting for the artist to sign their poster. They couldn't be too mad that he couldn't sign them all they all allready got a free Promotional print. Still a great show.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by artstylee on Feb 8, 2008 20:57:12 GMT 1, In regards to collecting and passion for collecting.
The actor/musician who played Sil on the Sopranos/ and plays in Bruce Springsteins band says
"Money = Respect."
The more money you can demand as an artists the more respect get in the art world.
Collectors want you to respect their art collection. So they move towards work that currently get's the most respect. So to get a respectable art collection you need to put your money up if you'd like to associate your self with the greatness of the world.
People would have alot less respect for Picasso or Pollock if they weren't fetching in the Millions.
go Art!!!!!!
In regards to collecting and passion for collecting.
The actor/musician who played Sil on the Sopranos/ and plays in Bruce Springsteins band says
"Money = Respect."
The more money you can demand as an artists the more respect get in the art world.
Collectors want you to respect their art collection. So they move towards work that currently get's the most respect. So to get a respectable art collection you need to put your money up if you'd like to associate your self with the greatness of the world.
People would have alot less respect for Picasso or Pollock if they weren't fetching in the Millions.
go Art!!!!!!
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Harveyn on Feb 8, 2008 21:20:53 GMT 1, Kept skipping past this thread. Just finished reading it (I will read it again) and on first pass I have to say this is probably the best thread I have read on here since I became a member. A good reasoned debate about art. I am not currently in a position to comment on the subject matter but will now, because of this thread make sure I am in the very near future. This is exactly what this forum should have more of, not exclusively this type of debate but a great deal more.
Kept skipping past this thread. Just finished reading it (I will read it again) and on first pass I have to say this is probably the best thread I have read on here since I became a member. A good reasoned debate about art. I am not currently in a position to comment on the subject matter but will now, because of this thread make sure I am in the very near future. This is exactly what this forum should have more of, not exclusively this type of debate but a great deal more.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by ricosg11 on Feb 8, 2008 21:24:17 GMT 1, Kept skipping past this thread. Just finished reading it (I will read it again) and on first pass I have to say this is probably the best thread I have read on here since I became a member. A good reasoned debate about art. I am not currently in a position to comment on the subject matter but will now, because of this thread make sure I am in the very near future. This is exactly what this forum should have more of, not exclusively this type of debate but a great deal more.
I agree and again I apologize for my harsh words in my first post. Looks like it got some good debate started though.
Kept skipping past this thread. Just finished reading it (I will read it again) and on first pass I have to say this is probably the best thread I have read on here since I became a member. A good reasoned debate about art. I am not currently in a position to comment on the subject matter but will now, because of this thread make sure I am in the very near future. This is exactly what this forum should have more of, not exclusively this type of debate but a great deal more. I agree and again I apologize for my harsh words in my first post. Looks like it got some good debate started though. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by loucastel on Feb 8, 2008 22:21:13 GMT 1, have enjoyed reading this thread, very enlightening, I would love to comment on Duchamp's fountain, but I have niether the literary skill or education, only to say that it provoked the same responces when it was first displayed as it does now, it is art because he said it was art. the most memorable piece for me was "nude going down stairs" or something like that, considering when it was painted, it wouldnt look out of place in the Tate Modern, (I dare say someone will now tell me it is) this is art that makes you think and ask questions, which I think is the main objective of many artists , Duchamp ,a man years ahead of his time, love his work or hate it, it evokes debate.discussion.
have enjoyed reading this thread, very enlightening, I would love to comment on Duchamp's fountain, but I have niether the literary skill or education, only to say that it provoked the same responces when it was first displayed as it does now, it is art because he said it was art. the most memorable piece for me was "nude going down stairs" or something like that, considering when it was painted, it wouldnt look out of place in the Tate Modern, (I dare say someone will now tell me it is) this is art that makes you think and ask questions, which I think is the main objective of many artists , Duchamp ,a man years ahead of his time, love his work or hate it, it evokes debate.discussion.
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Or maybe Carl Andre....
