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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by pezlow on Feb 8, 2008 22:30:03 GMT 1, have enjoyed reading this thread, very enlightening, I would love to comment on Duchamp's fountain, but I have niether the literary skill or education.
I think you have just commented on it rather well Lou.
have enjoyed reading this thread, very enlightening, I would love to comment on Duchamp's fountain, but I have niether the literary skill or education. I think you have just commented on it rather well Lou. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jamesreeve5 on Feb 8, 2008 22:56:45 GMT 1, The more money you can demand as an artists the more respect get in the art world.
I think it might be the other way around though... the more respected or well known of an artist you are, the more money you can demand from your buyers.
The more money you can demand as an artists the more respect get in the art world. I think it might be the other way around though... the more respected or well known of an artist you are, the more money you can demand from your buyers. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by flypitcher on Feb 8, 2008 23:07:56 GMT 1, making money is art.
making money is art.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by EHC on Feb 8, 2008 23:08:31 GMT 1, The more money you can demand as an artists the more respect get in the art world. I think it might be the other way around though... the more respected or well known of an artist you are, the more money you can demand from your buyers.
I think its safe to say that it can go both ways.
The more money you can demand as an artists the more respect get in the art world. I think it might be the other way around though... the more respected or well known of an artist you are, the more money you can demand from your buyers. I think its safe to say that it can go both ways. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by loucastel on Feb 8, 2008 23:29:48 GMT 1, The more money you can demand as an artists the more respect get in the art world. I think it might be the other way around though... the more respected or well known of an artist you are, the more money you can demand from your buyers.
The more money you can demand as an artists the more respect get in the art world. I think it might be the other way around though... the more respected or well known of an artist you are, the more money you can demand from your buyers. Trouble is a lot of the truly greats are now deceased, they are the ones who command telephone number prices, I think the closest we have living is Hirst, where it is nothing to pay Β£5-10million for one of his pieces. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by EHC on Feb 8, 2008 23:51:14 GMT 1, I think it might be the other way around though... the more respected or well known of an artist you are, the more money you can demand from your buyers. Trouble is a lot of the truly greats are now deceased, they are the ones who command telephone number prices, I think the closest we have living is Hirst, where it is nothing to pay Β£5-10million for one of his pieces.
Don't forget Koons
I think it might be the other way around though... the more respected or well known of an artist you are, the more money you can demand from your buyers. Trouble is a lot of the truly greats are now deceased, they are the ones who command telephone number prices, I think the closest we have living is Hirst, where it is nothing to pay Β£5-10million for one of his pieces. Don't forget Koons |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by ricosg11 on Feb 8, 2008 23:52:37 GMT 1, and murakami and richard prince
and murakami and richard prince
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by becksaboo on Feb 9, 2008 0:47:32 GMT 1, all art is subjective so it's ridiculous to say anything is shite. can just say it's not to my taste. i think it;s fantastic that there's so many artists around at the mo- it doesn't matter that i don't like them as others do
but if someone creates art but no-one else likes it, does that mean it isn't art? no because it's one person's way of expressing whatever so it's irrelevent. If you know what i mean.
all art is subjective so it's ridiculous to say anything is shite. can just say it's not to my taste. i think it;s fantastic that there's so many artists around at the mo- it doesn't matter that i don't like them as others do
but if someone creates art but no-one else likes it, does that mean it isn't art? no because it's one person's way of expressing whatever so it's irrelevent. If you know what i mean.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by corisma on Feb 9, 2008 3:18:54 GMT 1, the estimate is 1.5 million pounds - 2 million pounds.
is that because it'll never actually sell ?
stick it up on the bay & it'll sell for what it is worth 
the estimate is 1.5 million pounds - 2 million pounds. is that because it'll never actually sell ? stick it up on the bay & it'll sell for what it is worth |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by beyond on Feb 9, 2008 3:36:34 GMT 1, After reading this thread through and going back to the original picture it still looks like a nursery school scribble and if i had 2 mill burning a hole in my pocket this would possibly be the last thing i would spend it on.
After reading this thread through and going back to the original picture it still looks like a nursery school scribble and if i had 2 mill burning a hole in my pocket this would possibly be the last thing i would spend it on.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by imobiliare on Feb 9, 2008 10:49:26 GMT 1, it does seem to me that you lot are only prepared to endorse anything that has appeared on POW/LAZINC and are therefore creating your own little art world/scene where you inflate the prices of the pieces you purchase before you have even had the opportunity to purchase them. To quote your hero 'i cant believe you morons buy this shit'....
Artists such as Cy Twombly opened peoples minds and altered perspectives on art. Its just a bit more challenging to understand than your particular scene. Maybe like the influence of delta blues on modern music?
it does seem to me that you lot are only prepared to endorse anything that has appeared on POW/LAZINC and are therefore creating your own little art world/scene where you inflate the prices of the pieces you purchase before you have even had the opportunity to purchase them. To quote your hero 'i cant believe you morons buy this shit'....
Artists such as Cy Twombly opened peoples minds and altered perspectives on art. Its just a bit more challenging to understand than your particular scene. Maybe like the influence of delta blues on modern music?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by romanywg on Feb 9, 2008 10:58:17 GMT 1, Trouble is a lot of the truly greats are now deceased, they are the ones who command telephone number prices, I think the closest we have living is Hirst, where it is nothing to pay Β£5-10million for one of his pieces. Don't forget Koons
Or Peter Doig. Exhibition on at Tate Britain right now. Englands most expensive living artist until recently.
Trouble is a lot of the truly greats are now deceased, they are the ones who command telephone number prices, I think the closest we have living is Hirst, where it is nothing to pay Β£5-10million for one of his pieces. Don't forget Koons Or Peter Doig. Exhibition on at Tate Britain right now. Englands most expensive living artist until recently. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jcjcjc on Feb 9, 2008 13:30:50 GMT 1, Price of an artists work often has more to do with his/her ability to play the art markets politics and willingness to play the "Game". An interesting case in point was an American Arist name Jack Goldstein. He is work looking up and understanding as he pioneered cinematographic art and influenced a generation of Artists including some of the names. We turned his back on the Art scene having become disolutioned by the commercialism and become a virtual recluse before sadly commiting suicide a few years ago. I have a painting done by him in the 80s which I bought over 10 years ago for a very low sum of money by todays standards as I believed it to be a fabulous piece. It is the most appreciated piece I have on my walls and is a stunning canvas with the paint having been spray painted in layers using multiple stencils. Sounds a familiar style! His art is only now starting to gain the aclaim it deserves but is still far cheaper than a banksy or a Neate.
Banksy is an expert at playing the "game". For a guerilla artist he is very well represented by a powerful marketing machine. Ergo, his price goes up making everyone, including himself a lot of money.
What we are seeing with the urban art scene is unprecedented. Artists used to spend years pedaling their works through the galleries and the auction houses would not resell or touch their works until very well established. It's all turned on it's head now as helps make money faster for more. Is this all for real or just another bubble in the making?
Price of an artists work often has more to do with his/her ability to play the art markets politics and willingness to play the "Game". An interesting case in point was an American Arist name Jack Goldstein. He is work looking up and understanding as he pioneered cinematographic art and influenced a generation of Artists including some of the names. We turned his back on the Art scene having become disolutioned by the commercialism and become a virtual recluse before sadly commiting suicide a few years ago. I have a painting done by him in the 80s which I bought over 10 years ago for a very low sum of money by todays standards as I believed it to be a fabulous piece. It is the most appreciated piece I have on my walls and is a stunning canvas with the paint having been spray painted in layers using multiple stencils. Sounds a familiar style! His art is only now starting to gain the aclaim it deserves but is still far cheaper than a banksy or a Neate.
Banksy is an expert at playing the "game". For a guerilla artist he is very well represented by a powerful marketing machine. Ergo, his price goes up making everyone, including himself a lot of money.
What we are seeing with the urban art scene is unprecedented. Artists used to spend years pedaling their works through the galleries and the auction houses would not resell or touch their works until very well established. It's all turned on it's head now as helps make money faster for more. Is this all for real or just another bubble in the making?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robart on Mar 26, 2008 13:13:08 GMT 1, Whens the next bonhams urban art auction?
Whens the next bonhams urban art auction?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by singerstu on Mar 26, 2008 13:44:45 GMT 1, Whens the next bonhams urban art auction?
October 2008
Whens the next bonhams urban art auction? October 2008 |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robinbanks on Mar 26, 2008 13:49:15 GMT 1, They're having a Vision 21 auction next month on the 16th I think.
There's usually quite a few contemporary prints and originals in those sales - Banksy etc. Along with loads of other stuff like furniture and sculpture.
They're having a Vision 21 auction next month on the 16th I think.
There's usually quite a few contemporary prints and originals in those sales - Banksy etc. Along with loads of other stuff like furniture and sculpture.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by cashman on Mar 26, 2008 13:53:31 GMT 1,
thats such a cool space 
thats such a cool space |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robart on Mar 26, 2008 13:57:13 GMT 1, Can you still add stuff to the bonhams auction now? When are they closing the doors to auctioned items?
Can you still add stuff to the bonhams auction now? When are they closing the doors to auctioned items?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robart on Mar 26, 2008 13:57:39 GMT 1, I love that portrait of an artist how much do you think that will go for?
I love that portrait of an artist how much do you think that will go for?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robinbanks on Mar 26, 2008 14:44:57 GMT 1,
I'm confused... it says that they're exclusively regional auctioneers but that location is in London? 
I'm confused... it says that they're exclusively regional auctioneers but that location is in London? |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by onemandown72 on Mar 26, 2008 16:26:08 GMT 1, I suggest you contact the relevant auction houses directly. They can give you all details about consigning work.
I suggest you contact the relevant auction houses directly. They can give you all details about consigning work.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by onemandown72 on Mar 26, 2008 16:27:39 GMT 1, Aarrr and have always wondered what that building with the tubes on the roof where on Great eastern st.
Aarrr and have always wondered what that building with the tubes on the roof where on Great eastern st.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by skanky on Mar 27, 2008 13:06:48 GMT 1, The catalogue is now online some good Faile, Banksy and Neate. Someone is selling a good Neate Red portrait 2007 which will be interesting. The Banksy Think Tank is a beauty.
www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Richard on Mar 27, 2008 13:11:05 GMT 1, The estimates are far too low!
Signed Laugh Now...Β£4-6k. 
The estimates are far too low! Signed Laugh Now...Β£4-6k. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robinbanks on Mar 27, 2008 13:23:11 GMT 1, Virtually all the estimates were smashed at the last Urban Art sale - I wouldn't be surprised at all if the same happened here. In fact, I fully expect it to.
Virtually all the estimates were smashed at the last Urban Art sale - I wouldn't be surprised at all if the same happened here. In fact, I fully expect it to.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by dave313perry on Mar 27, 2008 13:25:20 GMT 1, Virtually all the estimates were smashed at the last Urban Art sale - I wouldn't be surprised at all if the same happened here. In fact, I fully expect it to.
standard!
Virtually all the estimates were smashed at the last Urban Art sale - I wouldn't be surprised at all if the same happened here. In fact, I fully expect it to. standard! |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by manchestermike on Mar 27, 2008 13:31:12 GMT 1, A few Micallefs up too
A few Micallefs up too
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by simongoff on Mar 27, 2008 13:38:08 GMT 1, Link not work for me
Link not work for me
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Rude Copper on Mar 27, 2008 13:41:11 GMT 1, be interesting to see how much the neate goes for, the 2 that have been auctioned before were not as strong as this one,
some great pieces up tho, the laugh now on a pallet is a belter.
be interesting to see how much the neate goes for, the 2 that have been auctioned before were not as strong as this one,
some great pieces up tho, the laugh now on a pallet is a belter.
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