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Why doesn't Banksy flood his own market?, by My Name is Frank on Feb 3, 2015 19:46:20 GMT 1, To be fair, he released an edition of 1000, guess what, they're worth ยฃ2k+ from an initial ยฃ100 of which proceeds went to sight savers. He saw the LA Lift off so he decided to add another 750 prints to the trolleys release, then more in Bethlehem, guess what they're worth more. He tried posters, guess what, they went up. He tried down loads, that worked. He does absolutely nothing to stop boot leggers like WCP, in effect re-releasing old prints, guess what, no change.
He even stopped releasing prints other than In small editions to try to alienate his image, that didn't work. He could print girl with balloon again in an edition of 1,000,000 and guess what, the originals would go up in value. The man has tried everything, as a final example he even extended a limited edition with Nola, anyone else would have been destroyed on here, but guess what, you get damn good money for those too. In short he HAS tried to flood his market and failed again and again and again, I also forgot to mention the Central Park originals stunt, showing his works true value to the world? He can't stand up for falling down
To be fair, he released an edition of 1000, guess what, they're worth ยฃ2k+ from an initial ยฃ100 of which proceeds went to sight savers. He saw the LA Lift off so he decided to add another 750 prints to the trolleys release, then more in Bethlehem, guess what they're worth more. He tried posters, guess what, they went up. He tried down loads, that worked. He does absolutely nothing to stop boot leggers like WCP, in effect re-releasing old prints, guess what, no change.
He even stopped releasing prints other than In small editions to try to alienate his image, that didn't work. He could print girl with balloon again in an edition of 1,000,000 and guess what, the originals would go up in value. The man has tried everything, as a final example he even extended a limited edition with Nola, anyone else would have been destroyed on here, but guess what, you get damn good money for those too. In short he HAS tried to flood his market and failed again and again and again, I also forgot to mention the Central Park originals stunt, showing his works true value to the world? He can't stand up for falling down
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Why doesn't Banksy flood his own market?, by Bina on Feb 3, 2015 20:22:18 GMT 1, To be fair, he released an edition of 1000, guess what, they're worth ยฃ2k+ from an initial ยฃ100 of which proceeds went to sight savers. He saw the LA Lift off so he decided to add another 750 prints to the trolleys release, then more in Bethlehem, guess what they're worth more. He tried posters, guess what, they went up. He tried down loads, that worked. He does absolutely nothing to stop boot leggers like WCP, in effect re-releasing old prints, guess what, no change. He even stopped releasing prints other than In small editions to try to alienate his image, that didn't work. He could print girl with balloon again in an edition of 1,000,000 and guess what, the originals would go up in value. The man has tried everything, as a final example he even extended a limited edition with Nola, anyone else would have been destroyed on here, but guess what, you get damn good money for those too. In short he HAS tried to flood his market and failed again and again and again, I also forgot to mention the Central Park originals stunt, showing his works true value to the world? He can't stand up for falling down Adds another 58 to the CYW to help out = Sought after
To be fair, he released an edition of 1000, guess what, they're worth ยฃ2k+ from an initial ยฃ100 of which proceeds went to sight savers. He saw the LA Lift off so he decided to add another 750 prints to the trolleys release, then more in Bethlehem, guess what they're worth more. He tried posters, guess what, they went up. He tried down loads, that worked. He does absolutely nothing to stop boot leggers like WCP, in effect re-releasing old prints, guess what, no change. He even stopped releasing prints other than In small editions to try to alienate his image, that didn't work. He could print girl with balloon again in an edition of 1,000,000 and guess what, the originals would go up in value. The man has tried everything, as a final example he even extended a limited edition with Nola, anyone else would have been destroyed on here, but guess what, you get damn good money for those too. In short he HAS tried to flood his market and failed again and again and again, I also forgot to mention the Central Park originals stunt, showing his works true value to the world? He can't stand up for falling down Adds another 58 to the CYW to help out = Sought after
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Why doesn't Banksy flood his own market?, by tommyb on Feb 4, 2015 1:13:15 GMT 1, By not releasing prints and cashing in his previous prints sell for more and more this gets the media talking, this causes the hype and prices to grow further to the point where every single piece he creates on the streets ends up in dozens of news papers and various other news sources etc... as his art carries a political message he ofcourse wants his message to reach as far as possible, if his work was not hyped the way it is it would only really ever be seen by whomever walks past it or the likes of us collectors (who are for the most part already of a similar political persuasion). It is all just about creating as big an audience as possible for himself. If you were to take another artist with a political agenda such as shep fairey who churnes out print after print after print only collectors ever hear of his realeases and as mentioned before they already have a similar political mindset anyway, so in terms of spreading a political message one Banksy street piece a year probably challenges more minds then dozens of fairey prints. Maybe he wants every fan to own a piece of his artwork to enjoy everyday I really don't know, but if he were to do this the hype would slow, his message would reach fewer people and that would defeat the entire purpose of making political art.
By not releasing prints and cashing in his previous prints sell for more and more this gets the media talking, this causes the hype and prices to grow further to the point where every single piece he creates on the streets ends up in dozens of news papers and various other news sources etc... as his art carries a political message he ofcourse wants his message to reach as far as possible, if his work was not hyped the way it is it would only really ever be seen by whomever walks past it or the likes of us collectors (who are for the most part already of a similar political persuasion). It is all just about creating as big an audience as possible for himself. If you were to take another artist with a political agenda such as shep fairey who churnes out print after print after print only collectors ever hear of his realeases and as mentioned before they already have a similar political mindset anyway, so in terms of spreading a political message one Banksy street piece a year probably challenges more minds then dozens of fairey prints. Maybe he wants every fan to own a piece of his artwork to enjoy everyday I really don't know, but if he were to do this the hype would slow, his message would reach fewer people and that would defeat the entire purpose of making political art.
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Why doesn't Banksy flood his own market?, by wishingiwaslucky on Feb 4, 2015 1:34:26 GMT 1, Age changes everyone and their thoughts, why should we assume he has the same agenda he had and not just got bored and moved on, he may be Billy no mates in the pub corner for all we know...
Age changes everyone and their thoughts, why should we assume he has the same agenda he had and not just got bored and moved on, he may be Billy no mates in the pub corner for all we know...
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Why doesn't Banksy flood his own market?, by Howard Johnson on Feb 4, 2015 1:34:24 GMT 1, By not releasing prints and cashing in his previous prints sell for more and more this gets the media talking, this causes the hype and prices to grow further to the point where every single piece he creates on the streets ends up in dozens of news papers and various other news sources etc... as his art carries a political message he ofcourse wants his message to reach as far as possible, if his work was not hyped the way it is it would only really ever be seen by whomever walks past it or the likes of us collectors (who are for the most part already of a similar political persuasion). It is all just about creating as big an audience as possible for himself. If you were to take another artist with a political agenda such as shep fairey who churnes out print after print after print only collectors ever hear of his realeases and as mentioned before they already have a similar political mindset anyway, so in terms of spreading a political message one Banksy street piece a year probably challenges more minds then dozens of fairey prints. Maybe he wants every fan to own a piece of his artwork to enjoy everyday I really don't know, but if he were to do this the hype would slow, his message would reach fewer people and that would defeat the entire purpose of making political art.
This is the most original viewpoint iv'e read on the various "why doesn't Banksy release more prints" threads. I'd also add that the finical success of Banksy's work only serves to further solidify his place in the art history books. Whether thats a good thing is debatable, but it bolsters this viewpoint. The more valuable his pieces become, the more artistic/historical relevance his work receives, the more likely that future generations will see and study his work. Essentially reaching not only people in our generation, but preserving his messages for generation to come. As much as I love Shep, I do agree that 90% of his crazy output will not make it into educational galleries or similar institutions.
By not releasing prints and cashing in his previous prints sell for more and more this gets the media talking, this causes the hype and prices to grow further to the point where every single piece he creates on the streets ends up in dozens of news papers and various other news sources etc... as his art carries a political message he ofcourse wants his message to reach as far as possible, if his work was not hyped the way it is it would only really ever be seen by whomever walks past it or the likes of us collectors (who are for the most part already of a similar political persuasion). It is all just about creating as big an audience as possible for himself. If you were to take another artist with a political agenda such as shep fairey who churnes out print after print after print only collectors ever hear of his realeases and as mentioned before they already have a similar political mindset anyway, so in terms of spreading a political message one Banksy street piece a year probably challenges more minds then dozens of fairey prints. Maybe he wants every fan to own a piece of his artwork to enjoy everyday I really don't know, but if he were to do this the hype would slow, his message would reach fewer people and that would defeat the entire purpose of making political art. This is the most original viewpoint iv'e read on the various "why doesn't Banksy release more prints" threads. I'd also add that the finical success of Banksy's work only serves to further solidify his place in the art history books. Whether thats a good thing is debatable, but it bolsters this viewpoint. The more valuable his pieces become, the more artistic/historical relevance his work receives, the more likely that future generations will see and study his work. Essentially reaching not only people in our generation, but preserving his messages for generation to come. As much as I love Shep, I do agree that 90% of his crazy output will not make it into educational galleries or similar institutions. |
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Why doesn't Banksy flood his own market?, by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 10:33:58 GMT 1, So basically he's a tall but short drunken bum with no mates who wastes his time thinking about who he can cadge a drink from in some grotty old boozer daaaarn the old Kent road?, and not only that but he wears his Mum's old pinnie and has to rely on passing strangers handouts to afford the odd tin of paint?, all this on top of having ginger curly hair and thick rimmed glasses (Mort...Family Guy) whilst being followed around by a battered old Transit van containing a motley crew who call themselves 'Team Banksy' just waiting to follow him on his next adventure in a Scooby Doo Mystery Bus type way?.
I'd go with that one.
So basically he's a tall but short drunken bum with no mates who wastes his time thinking about who he can cadge a drink from in some grotty old boozer daaaarn the old Kent road?, and not only that but he wears his Mum's old pinnie and has to rely on passing strangers handouts to afford the odd tin of paint?, all this on top of having ginger curly hair and thick rimmed glasses (Mort...Family Guy) whilst being followed around by a battered old Transit van containing a motley crew who call themselves 'Team Banksy' just waiting to follow him on his next adventure in a Scooby Doo Mystery Bus type way?.
I'd go with that one.
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Why doesn't Banksy flood his own market?, by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 10:38:33 GMT 1, So basically he's a tall but short drunken bum with no mates who wastes his time thinking about who he can cadge a drink from in some grotty old boozer daaaarn the old Kent road?, and not only that but he wears his Mum's old pinnie and has to rely on passing strangers handouts to afford the odd tin of paint?, all this on top of having ginger curly hair and thick rimmed glasses (Mort...Family Guy) whilst being followed around by a battered old Transit van containing a motley crew who call themselves 'Team Banksy' just waiting to follow him on his next adventure in a Scooby Doo Mystery Bus type way?. I'd go with that one.
So basically he's a tall but short drunken bum with no mates who wastes his time thinking about who he can cadge a drink from in some grotty old boozer daaaarn the old Kent road?, and not only that but he wears his Mum's old pinnie and has to rely on passing strangers handouts to afford the odd tin of paint?, all this on top of having ginger curly hair and thick rimmed glasses (Mort...Family Guy) whilst being followed around by a battered old Transit van containing a motley crew who call themselves 'Team Banksy' just waiting to follow him on his next adventure in a Scooby Doo Mystery Bus type way?. I'd go with that one. I'll second that... Lovely! |
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Why doesn't Banksy flood his own market?, by tommyb on Feb 7, 2015 18:08:41 GMT 1, By not releasing prints and cashing in his previous prints sell for more and more this gets the media talking, this causes the hype and prices to grow And if he did continue to release prints it would also be a media frenzy with much publicity so I don't think it's a valid argument. I really think Banksy just doesn't care about satiating people's gluttonous desire to buy things.
By not releasing prints and cashing in his previous prints sell for more and more this gets the media talking, this causes the hype and prices to grow And if he did continue to release prints it would also be a media frenzy with much publicity so I don't think it's a valid argument. I really think Banksy just doesn't care about satiating people's gluttonous desire to buy things. Come on man, you cannot say that isn't a valid argument, it is after all more of an arguement then "I really think Banksy just doesn't care about satiating people's gluttonous desire to buy things.". I am not saying it is the right or wrong answer, it is ofcourse like everything else on this thread speculation. If you think of all the stories about the prices his art achieves, people claiming ownership of bits of wall he has painted on bits of wall that vanish over night etc... All of these stories happen due to the value of his art which is created because of its exclusivity. That is a valid arguement, I am not sure how you can disagree with that. |
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Why doesn't Banksy flood his own market?, by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 18:21:54 GMT 1, why should he?
Why doesnt he release any more prints?
why should he?
Why doesnt he release any more prints?
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