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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Happy Shopper on Mar 18, 2015 11:31:59 GMT 1, I just got an email from Pace too! $45k!!! Are they having a laugh?
I just got an email from Pace too! $45k!!! Are they having a laugh?
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 12:34:18 GMT 1, Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of shit ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time !
Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of shit ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time !
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Philpenn on Mar 18, 2015 14:41:19 GMT 1, Something something Ferrari fuel.
Something something Ferrari fuel.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by dazarino on Mar 18, 2015 16:02:45 GMT 1, $45k? April fools is next month
$45k? April fools is next month
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by dazarino on Mar 18, 2015 16:26:40 GMT 1, Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of s**t ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time !
Well if you do sort out a deal with covert and receive the prints within in the next 4 months,
that's still a month less than the estimated postage with pace gallery
Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of s**t ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time ! Well if you do sort out a deal with covert and receive the prints within in the next 4 months, that's still a month less than the estimated postage with pace gallery
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by jayawesum24 on Mar 18, 2015 18:57:27 GMT 1, I wont be surprised if the price goes up once they sell a few more sets. Which i think they will. But lets see.
I wont be surprised if the price goes up once they sell a few more sets. Which i think they will. But lets see.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by alittle on Mar 18, 2015 19:07:58 GMT 1, I'm curious...which market segment is buying these $45,000 print sets?
I'm curious...which market segment is buying these $45,000 print sets?
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by disdig1 on Mar 18, 2015 19:17:11 GMT 1, I'd like to know that as well because if I had that kind of money id be buying originals.
I'd like to know that as well because if I had that kind of money id be buying originals.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Happy Shopper on Mar 18, 2015 19:20:41 GMT 1, I'm curious...which market segment is buying these $45,000 print sets? I'm going to guess it's the high roller collectors, who buy 1 of everything, and the flippers hoping to break the set up and sell for a profit.
I'm curious...which market segment is buying these $45,000 print sets? I'm going to guess it's the high roller collectors, who buy 1 of everything, and the flippers hoping to break the set up and sell for a profit.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by BKBOI on Mar 18, 2015 20:19:37 GMT 1, I'd like to know that as well because if I had that kind of money id be buying signed Banksy. Just trying to keep you on track.
I'd like to know that as well because if I had that kind of money id be buying signed Banksy. Just trying to keep you on track.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 20:29:28 GMT 1, I think after further research and consideration these are def priced accordingly. For $45k you can def go for an original by other artists, but not a kaws original unless it is a very minimal, undesired work. I purchased a skulll on canvas circa 1999 measuring 16 x 16" about a yr ago for $42k and it has no where near the visual impact of this set.
In addition for those who own other kaws prints the quality is spectaular unlike anyting ive seen in or on a screenprint from any one other artist. His originals have been fetching in the $100K + range and much higher on a very consistant basis and with an artist (kaws) who has a very tight hold on his market and oversees where pieces go and to whom, the market is not over saturated in anyway with his work keeping the current market value's consistantly rising with a deman that far outweighs the supply, most people who purchase tend to keep these are not really made for the flippers although sets are broekn up I think its more for catering to those who would like to own one but cannot afford a whole set.
although it defeats the purpose as they are meant to be displayed as a set & i think these will sell out and not too many will make it to the secondary market just for the sake of flipping.
I think after further research and consideration these are def priced accordingly. For $45k you can def go for an original by other artists, but not a kaws original unless it is a very minimal, undesired work. I purchased a skulll on canvas circa 1999 measuring 16 x 16" about a yr ago for $42k and it has no where near the visual impact of this set.
In addition for those who own other kaws prints the quality is spectaular unlike anyting ive seen in or on a screenprint from any one other artist. His originals have been fetching in the $100K + range and much higher on a very consistant basis and with an artist (kaws) who has a very tight hold on his market and oversees where pieces go and to whom, the market is not over saturated in anyway with his work keeping the current market value's consistantly rising with a deman that far outweighs the supply, most people who purchase tend to keep these are not really made for the flippers although sets are broekn up I think its more for catering to those who would like to own one but cannot afford a whole set.
although it defeats the purpose as they are meant to be displayed as a set & i think these will sell out and not too many will make it to the secondary market just for the sake of flipping.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by msobel3 on Mar 18, 2015 22:03:50 GMT 1, Agree with @godspeed that Kaws quality is next level. His acceptance amongst the fine art crowd is also next level. Kaws has really made the transition to top tier artist. One of 5 living artists to have a float in the Macys thanksgiving day parade (two of the others include Koons and Murakami). Kaws is entirely on an another planet compared to basically every other artist discussed on here. The only other artist frequently discussed here that is in the same league as Kaws is Banksy. And while people here pay £10K for Banksys without blinking an eye they are hemming and hawing over Kaws's prices. If you want a canvas from Kaws you can expect to pay 75,000. If you want a big one, which many of his works are, be prepared to spend $200,000. This is one of the greatest living artists. While many of you guys may not agree, there are obviously many people who do. And while most complained about the price of Ups and Downs, it sold out without a problem--and this set will do the same, dont you worry. I just don't understand what forum members expectations are. Because as I've seen with other print releases, it sure feel likes 80% of all the prints released are bought by forum members. And when you deal with the Maya Hayuk's, Sandra Chevrier's and DALeast's of the world, its fairly understandable because despite how popular we perceive them to be, most of the art world does not know or care about them. (no offense to the artists or Jean-Francois because i own and love my pieces from those artists) But the perspective needs to change when you are talking about an artist like Kaws who has recognition, respect and acceptance from some of the smartest, richest and most powerful people in the entire WORLD, not just our forum. Do you guys realize how many people JUST in Hong Kong that went to Basel can afford to spend $45,000 without blinking an eye? Forgetting the Pharell's and Nigo's and all of the other big time celebrities who are Kaws fans. There are a lot of rich people in this world and there are a lot of rich people who love Kaws. He only needs 100 of them to buy this set. This has become a bit of a rant at this point but it just frustrates me that some people here do not seem to recognize Kaws and what he has accomplished. Because if you did, you would understand that his price is a reflection of his market--very very strong.
Agree with @godspeed that Kaws quality is next level. His acceptance amongst the fine art crowd is also next level. Kaws has really made the transition to top tier artist. One of 5 living artists to have a float in the Macys thanksgiving day parade (two of the others include Koons and Murakami). Kaws is entirely on an another planet compared to basically every other artist discussed on here. The only other artist frequently discussed here that is in the same league as Kaws is Banksy. And while people here pay £10K for Banksys without blinking an eye they are hemming and hawing over Kaws's prices. If you want a canvas from Kaws you can expect to pay 75,000. If you want a big one, which many of his works are, be prepared to spend $200,000. This is one of the greatest living artists. While many of you guys may not agree, there are obviously many people who do. And while most complained about the price of Ups and Downs, it sold out without a problem--and this set will do the same, dont you worry. I just don't understand what forum members expectations are. Because as I've seen with other print releases, it sure feel likes 80% of all the prints released are bought by forum members. And when you deal with the Maya Hayuk's, Sandra Chevrier's and DALeast's of the world, its fairly understandable because despite how popular we perceive them to be, most of the art world does not know or care about them. (no offense to the artists or Jean-Francois because i own and love my pieces from those artists) But the perspective needs to change when you are talking about an artist like Kaws who has recognition, respect and acceptance from some of the smartest, richest and most powerful people in the entire WORLD, not just our forum. Do you guys realize how many people JUST in Hong Kong that went to Basel can afford to spend $45,000 without blinking an eye? Forgetting the Pharell's and Nigo's and all of the other big time celebrities who are Kaws fans. There are a lot of rich people in this world and there are a lot of rich people who love Kaws. He only needs 100 of them to buy this set. This has become a bit of a rant at this point but it just frustrates me that some people here do not seem to recognize Kaws and what he has accomplished. Because if you did, you would understand that his price is a reflection of his market--very very strong.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Winter on Mar 18, 2015 22:12:53 GMT 1, If these sets are broken the prints work out at around £3k each. If you think what that would buy in terms of Banksy it would possibly be a weaker unsigned piece. Kaws is likely to be one of the few artists remembered from this 'scene' along with Banksy, Os Gemeos and (according to some) Borondo. I do think his pricing is about right, the big question is further down the line if these have added value if kept as a set.
If these sets are broken the prints work out at around £3k each. If you think what that would buy in terms of Banksy it would possibly be a weaker unsigned piece. Kaws is likely to be one of the few artists remembered from this 'scene' along with Banksy, Os Gemeos and (according to some) Borondo. I do think his pricing is about right, the big question is further down the line if these have added value if kept as a set.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by covertshadowops on Mar 18, 2015 22:23:10 GMT 1, Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of s**t ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time ! no sure whether to bite or not... so i will have a nibble instead.
'The world does not revolve around you, DrJimmy'
i have more things to do in the day than sit on the banksy forum replying to messages from someone who sends them every hour. You arent the only one interested in my KAWS Ups and Downs set.
he wanted them for $32500, and i said no.
he seems to have spat his dummy out.
Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of s**t ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time ! no sure whether to bite or not... so i will have a nibble instead. 'The world does not revolve around you, DrJimmy' i have more things to do in the day than sit on the banksy forum replying to messages from someone who sends them every hour. You arent the only one interested in my KAWS Ups and Downs set. he wanted them for $32500, and i said no. he seems to have spat his dummy out.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Toykio on Mar 18, 2015 22:55:11 GMT 1, congrats to everyone who scored one. keeping the kaws editions collection complete is getting harder with every release...
congrats to everyone who scored one. keeping the kaws editions collection complete is getting harder with every release...
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Winter on Mar 18, 2015 22:57:00 GMT 1, Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of s**t ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time ! no sure whether to bite or not... so i will have a nibble instead. 'The world does not revolve around you, DrJimmy' i have more things to do in the day than sit on the banksy forum replying to messages from someone who sends them every hour. You arent the only one interested in my KAWS Ups and Downs set. he wanted them for $32500, and i said no. he seems to have spat his dummy out. So just to be clear negotiations are at an advanced stage!
Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of s**t ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time ! no sure whether to bite or not... so i will have a nibble instead. 'The world does not revolve around you, DrJimmy' i have more things to do in the day than sit on the banksy forum replying to messages from someone who sends them every hour. You arent the only one interested in my KAWS Ups and Downs set. he wanted them for $32500, and i said no. he seems to have spat his dummy out. So just to be clear negotiations are at an advanced stage!
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by kfroms on Mar 18, 2015 23:18:04 GMT 1, i have more things to do in the day than sit on the banksy forum replying to messages from someone who sends them every hour. How dare you!
i have more things to do in the day than sit on the banksy forum replying to messages from someone who sends them every hour. How dare you!
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Dice on Mar 18, 2015 23:19:01 GMT 1, Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of s**t ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time ! no sure whether to bite or not... so i will have a nibble instead. 'The world does not revolve around you, DrJimmy' i have more things to do in the day than sit on the banksy forum replying to messages from someone who sends them every hour. You arent the only one interested in my KAWS Ups and Downs set. he wanted them for $32500, and i said no. he seems to have spat his dummy out.
So in interests of clarity how much DO you want for the set and is it in the uk?
Guys seems covert shadows is actually full of s**t ! I have tried to negotiate a price but he originally asked $37500 Now I cannot get him to give me a price One big waste of time ! no sure whether to bite or not... so i will have a nibble instead. 'The world does not revolve around you, DrJimmy' i have more things to do in the day than sit on the banksy forum replying to messages from someone who sends them every hour. You arent the only one interested in my KAWS Ups and Downs set. he wanted them for $32500, and i said no. he seems to have spat his dummy out. So in interests of clarity how much DO you want for the set and is it in the uk?
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Collection 1 on Mar 19, 2015 3:30:56 GMT 1, Would love to see a photo of either set framed together in someone's house. You'd need a pretty big space for it not to absolutely dominate. here we go: Swizzbeatz son's room.
Would love to see a photo of either set framed together in someone's house. You'd need a pretty big space for it not to absolutely dominate. here we go: Swizzbeatz son's room.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 4:01:25 GMT 1, Would love to see a photo of either set framed together in someone's house. You'd need a pretty big space for it not to absolutely dominate. here we go: Swizzbeatz son's room. Thanks! Always good to know who your competition is.
Would love to see a photo of either set framed together in someone's house. You'd need a pretty big space for it not to absolutely dominate. here we go: Swizzbeatz son's room. Thanks! Always good to know who your competition is.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by dazarino on Mar 19, 2015 4:07:47 GMT 1,
I agree with most of this, but remember art is so personal if your talking about the next level,kaws is popular but not as much in Europe as in the states clearly. He is well known in urban art and toy collecting circles but i don't agree with that is one of the most important living artists. That said I'm a fan of his as well.
I think it's the price increase that has shocked a few members on here, we all know kaws has a wealthy fan base and they will buy this set no doubt. It's just a shame pace has now set the price even higher, so fewer fans/collectors can afford them. Also not so sure a parade in America is a good example of how famous an artist is worldwide Imo Did enjoy your post though
Agree with @godspeed that Kaws quality is next level. His acceptance amongst the fine art crowd is also next level. Kaws has really made the transition to top tier artist. One of 5 living artists to have a float in the Macys thanksgiving day parade (two of the others include Koons and Murakami). Kaws is entirely on an another planet compared to basically every other artist discussed on here. The only other artist frequently discussed here that is in the same league as Kaws is Banksy. And while people here pay £10K for Banksys without blinking an eye they are hemming and hawing over Kaws's prices. If you want a canvas from Kaws you can expect to pay 75,000. If you want a big one, which many of his works are, be prepared to spend $200,000. This is one of the greatest living artists. While many of you guys may not agree, there are obviously many people who do. And while most complained about the price of Ups and Downs, it sold out without a problem--and this set will do the same, dont you worry. I just don't understand what forum members expectations are. Because as I've seen with other print releases, it sure feel likes 80% of all the prints released are bought by forum members. And when you deal with the Maya Hayuk's, Sandra Chevrier's and DALeast's of the world, its fairly understandable because despite how popular we perceive them to be, most of the art world does not know or care about them. (no offense to the artists or Jean-Francois because i own and love my pieces from those artists) But the perspective needs to change when you are talking about an artist like Kaws who has recognition, respect and acceptance from some of the smartest, richest and most powerful people in the entire WORLD, not just our forum. Do you guys realize how many people JUST in Hong Kong that went to Basel can afford to spend $45,000 without blinking an eye? Forgetting the Pharell's and Nigo's and all of the other big time celebrities who are Kaws fans. There are a lot of rich people in this world and there are a lot of rich people who love Kaws. He only needs 100 of them to buy this set. This has become a bit of a rant at this point but it just frustrates me that some people here do not seem to recognize Kaws and what he has accomplished. Because if you did, you would understand that his price is a reflection of his market--very very strong.I
I agree with most of this, but remember art is so personal if your talking about the next level,kaws is popular but not as much in Europe as in the states clearly. He is well known in urban art and toy collecting circles but i don't agree with that is one of the most important living artists. That said I'm a fan of his as well. I think it's the price increase that has shocked a few members on here, we all know kaws has a wealthy fan base and they will buy this set no doubt. It's just a shame pace has now set the price even higher, so fewer fans/collectors can afford them. Also not so sure a parade in America is a good example of how famous an artist is worldwide Imo Did enjoy your post though Agree with @godspeed that Kaws quality is next level. His acceptance amongst the fine art crowd is also next level. Kaws has really made the transition to top tier artist. One of 5 living artists to have a float in the Macys thanksgiving day parade (two of the others include Koons and Murakami). Kaws is entirely on an another planet compared to basically every other artist discussed on here. The only other artist frequently discussed here that is in the same league as Kaws is Banksy. And while people here pay £10K for Banksys without blinking an eye they are hemming and hawing over Kaws's prices. If you want a canvas from Kaws you can expect to pay 75,000. If you want a big one, which many of his works are, be prepared to spend $200,000. This is one of the greatest living artists. While many of you guys may not agree, there are obviously many people who do. And while most complained about the price of Ups and Downs, it sold out without a problem--and this set will do the same, dont you worry. I just don't understand what forum members expectations are. Because as I've seen with other print releases, it sure feel likes 80% of all the prints released are bought by forum members. And when you deal with the Maya Hayuk's, Sandra Chevrier's and DALeast's of the world, its fairly understandable because despite how popular we perceive them to be, most of the art world does not know or care about them. (no offense to the artists or Jean-Francois because i own and love my pieces from those artists) But the perspective needs to change when you are talking about an artist like Kaws who has recognition, respect and acceptance from some of the smartest, richest and most powerful people in the entire WORLD, not just our forum. Do you guys realize how many people JUST in Hong Kong that went to Basel can afford to spend $45,000 without blinking an eye? Forgetting the Pharell's and Nigo's and all of the other big time celebrities who are Kaws fans. There are a lot of rich people in this world and there are a lot of rich people who love Kaws. He only needs 100 of them to buy this set. This has become a bit of a rant at this point but it just frustrates me that some people here do not seem to recognize Kaws and what he has accomplished. Because if you did, you would understand that his price is a reflection of his market--very very strong.I
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Black Apple Art on Mar 19, 2015 7:17:36 GMT 1, I agree with most of this, but remember art is so personal if your talking about the next level,kaws is popular but not as much in Europe as in the states clearly. He is well known in urban art and toy collecting circles but i don't agree with that is one of the most important living artists. That said I'm a fan of his as well. I think it's the price increase that has shocked a few members on here, we all know kaws has a wealthy fan base and they will buy this set no doubt. It's just a shame pace has now set the price even higher, so fewer fans/collectors can afford them. Also not so sure a parade in America is a good example of how famous an artist is worldwide Imo Did enjoy your post though Agree with @godspeed that Kaws quality is next level. His acceptance amongst the fine art crowd is also next level. Kaws has really made the transition to top tier artist. One of 5 living artists to have a float in the Macys thanksgiving day parade (two of the others include Koons and Murakami). Kaws is entirely on an another planet compared to basically every other artist discussed on here. The only other artist frequently discussed here that is in the same league as Kaws is Banksy. And while people here pay £10K for Banksys without blinking an eye they are hemming and hawing over Kaws's prices. If you want a canvas from Kaws you can expect to pay 75,000. If you want a big one, which many of his works are, be prepared to spend $200,000. This is one of the greatest living artists. While many of you guys may not agree, there are obviously many people who do. And while most complained about the price of Ups and Downs, it sold out without a problem--and this set will do the same, dont you worry. I just don't understand what forum members expectations are. Because as I've seen with other print releases, it sure feel likes 80% of all the prints released are bought by forum members. And when you deal with the Maya Hayuk's, Sandra Chevrier's and DALeast's of the world, its fairly understandable because despite how popular we perceive them to be, most of the art world does not know or care about them. (no offense to the artists or Jean-Francois because i own and love my pieces from those artists) But the perspective needs to change when you are talking about an artist like Kaws who has recognition, respect and acceptance from some of the smartest, richest and most powerful people in the entire WORLD, not just our forum. Do you guys realize how many people JUST in Hong Kong that went to Basel can afford to spend $45,000 without blinking an eye? Forgetting the Pharell's and Nigo's and all of the other big time celebrities who are Kaws fans. There are a lot of rich people in this world and there are a lot of rich people who love Kaws. He only needs 100 of them to buy this set. This has become a bit of a rant at this point but it just frustrates me that some people here do not seem to recognize Kaws and what he has accomplished. Because if you did, you would understand that his price is a reflection of his market--very very strong.I I'm not a vinyl collector but I like Kaws as well but think his core demand and image is more associated with his toys and collaborations with various apparel brands then art, not that takes anything away from his accomplishments. Also his start in the 90s in the NY graf scene is genuine and grew organically from there. Have to remember the vinyl market is HUGE especially in Asia and I believe that helped him transcend into other collectable markets.
I agree with most of this, but remember art is so personal if your talking about the next level,kaws is popular but not as much in Europe as in the states clearly. He is well known in urban art and toy collecting circles but i don't agree with that is one of the most important living artists. That said I'm a fan of his as well. I think it's the price increase that has shocked a few members on here, we all know kaws has a wealthy fan base and they will buy this set no doubt. It's just a shame pace has now set the price even higher, so fewer fans/collectors can afford them. Also not so sure a parade in America is a good example of how famous an artist is worldwide Imo Did enjoy your post though Agree with @godspeed that Kaws quality is next level. His acceptance amongst the fine art crowd is also next level. Kaws has really made the transition to top tier artist. One of 5 living artists to have a float in the Macys thanksgiving day parade (two of the others include Koons and Murakami). Kaws is entirely on an another planet compared to basically every other artist discussed on here. The only other artist frequently discussed here that is in the same league as Kaws is Banksy. And while people here pay £10K for Banksys without blinking an eye they are hemming and hawing over Kaws's prices. If you want a canvas from Kaws you can expect to pay 75,000. If you want a big one, which many of his works are, be prepared to spend $200,000. This is one of the greatest living artists. While many of you guys may not agree, there are obviously many people who do. And while most complained about the price of Ups and Downs, it sold out without a problem--and this set will do the same, dont you worry. I just don't understand what forum members expectations are. Because as I've seen with other print releases, it sure feel likes 80% of all the prints released are bought by forum members. And when you deal with the Maya Hayuk's, Sandra Chevrier's and DALeast's of the world, its fairly understandable because despite how popular we perceive them to be, most of the art world does not know or care about them. (no offense to the artists or Jean-Francois because i own and love my pieces from those artists) But the perspective needs to change when you are talking about an artist like Kaws who has recognition, respect and acceptance from some of the smartest, richest and most powerful people in the entire WORLD, not just our forum. Do you guys realize how many people JUST in Hong Kong that went to Basel can afford to spend $45,000 without blinking an eye? Forgetting the Pharell's and Nigo's and all of the other big time celebrities who are Kaws fans. There are a lot of rich people in this world and there are a lot of rich people who love Kaws. He only needs 100 of them to buy this set. This has become a bit of a rant at this point but it just frustrates me that some people here do not seem to recognize Kaws and what he has accomplished. Because if you did, you would understand that his price is a reflection of his market--very very strong.I I'm not a vinyl collector but I like Kaws as well but think his core demand and image is more associated with his toys and collaborations with various apparel brands then art, not that takes anything away from his accomplishments. Also his start in the 90s in the NY graf scene is genuine and grew organically from there. Have to remember the vinyl market is HUGE especially in Asia and I believe that helped him transcend into other collectable markets.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by monk on Mar 19, 2015 7:24:30 GMT 1, Very well said Msobel3. I agree completely.
Very well said Msobel3. I agree completely.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by sixsense on Mar 19, 2015 9:08:17 GMT 1, Im also agree with msobel3 and Godspeed, and would like to share my thoughts with my poor English. Im based in Hong Kong, perhaps can give you guys another angle of seeing this.
Why KAWS price goes up so quickly? I won't go through the history of how he move from street/urban artist to "Contemporary Artist" . I don't think he is in the top tier, yet. But the market seems driving him to. Here are some fact I've observed this past few years.
Popularity US/Europe - All the exhibitions he has done in major galleries and museum, more people get to know his work, also the works he crossover with magazines and celebrities. I believe majority of people get to know his name only in this past few years, not in his early career.
Japan/Hong Kong - He was pretty well known back when he still an urban artist. Major trend and hype were usually came from Japan. He worked with all the big name in Japan. Nigo- A Bathing Ape had some crossover items with KAWS , KAWS works were also representing by Bape gallery when he was not known by anyone in Asia Medicom toys- People didn't know toys could be that expensive until KAWS made his debut of his be@rbrick and companion series OriginalFake - his store in Tokyo selling his own brand of merchandise, it used to have line up almost every Saturday. Hong Kong - Hugh sculpture ( passing through, cleaning slate) were displayed in the most famous shopping mall in HK, that didn't only draw attention to the locals but also people from mainland China. Because that shopping mall is one of the must go places when people from mainland China came to visit.
So, who wants to buy KAWS? Collector - like you guys, support KAWS works from the beginning and wanted to collect every pieces he released Investor - If people have money to spare, instead of keeping them in bank, why not chip in to KAWS works. The results tell them it can double or triple what they put in. Take a recent auction from Cristie's for example
www.christies.com/lotfinder/salebrowse.aspx?intsaleid=25603&viewType=list
look at Lot 76, 78 and 79
Demand Having said above, KAWS no longer collected by the urban art lovers, you are basically competing with the whole world just like msobel3 said. I've spoke to the people from Pace Prints at art basel, she told me the opening was a kiosk, people actually line up to buy things, we are not talking about line up to buy sneakers here, can you believe people line up to spend serious money?
So, does it worth $45,000 for 10 prints ? We already had this kind of debate when the Ups and Downs released last year. People thinks $24,000 is so crazy and expected it won't sell out so soon. When you look back today, $24,000 is now consider as a steal. (FYI, the Ups and Downs set was sold @ $400,000HKD at the Cleaning Slate show on the first day) and Philips sold for £25,000 not long ago. Lets assume KAWS himself didn't involve with the price decision ,but if you are the producer or gallery , will you raise the price if it has a strong price record?
Provenance Someone has mentioned PACE was an institute, it also made the best prints in the world. I had Nara's prints form them which made by woodcut, they are fantastic. I think the quality of the print is as good as you can gets in the industry.
Lastly, $4K for a print that has 100 run is not crazy at all if KAWS is considered as first tier contemporary artist, simply compare to Damien Hirst, Koons, Kusama, Murakami, Nara...
We all just can't believe the fact that KAWS is or been push to the next level by the art world/market.
Im also agree with msobel3 and Godspeed, and would like to share my thoughts with my poor English. Im based in Hong Kong, perhaps can give you guys another angle of seeing this. Why KAWS price goes up so quickly?I won't go through the history of how he move from street/urban artist to "Contemporary Artist" . I don't think he is in the top tier, yet. But the market seems driving him to. Here are some fact I've observed this past few years. PopularityUS/Europe - All the exhibitions he has done in major galleries and museum, more people get to know his work, also the works he crossover with magazines and celebrities. I believe majority of people get to know his name only in this past few years, not in his early career. Japan/Hong Kong - He was pretty well known back when he still an urban artist. Major trend and hype were usually came from Japan. He worked with all the big name in Japan. Nigo- A Bathing Ape had some crossover items with KAWS , KAWS works were also representing by Bape gallery when he was not known by anyone in Asia Medicom toys- People didn't know toys could be that expensive until KAWS made his debut of his be@rbrick and companion series OriginalFake - his store in Tokyo selling his own brand of merchandise, it used to have line up almost every Saturday. Hong Kong - Hugh sculpture ( passing through, cleaning slate) were displayed in the most famous shopping mall in HK, that didn't only draw attention to the locals but also people from mainland China. Because that shopping mall is one of the must go places when people from mainland China came to visit. So, who wants to buy KAWS?Collector - like you guys, support KAWS works from the beginning and wanted to collect every pieces he released Investor - If people have money to spare, instead of keeping them in bank, why not chip in to KAWS works. The results tell them it can double or triple what they put in. Take a recent auction from Cristie's for example www.christies.com/lotfinder/salebrowse.aspx?intsaleid=25603&viewType=listlook at Lot 76, 78 and 79 DemandHaving said above, KAWS no longer collected by the urban art lovers, you are basically competing with the whole world just like msobel3 said. I've spoke to the people from Pace Prints at art basel, she told me the opening was a kiosk, people actually line up to buy things, we are not talking about line up to buy sneakers here, can you believe people line up to spend serious money? So, does it worth $45,000 for 10 prints ?We already had this kind of debate when the Ups and Downs released last year. People thinks $24,000 is so crazy and expected it won't sell out so soon. When you look back today, $24,000 is now consider as a steal. (FYI, the Ups and Downs set was sold @ $400,000HKD at the Cleaning Slate show on the first day) and Philips sold for £25,000 not long ago. Lets assume KAWS himself didn't involve with the price decision ,but if you are the producer or gallery , will you raise the price if it has a strong price record? ProvenanceSomeone has mentioned PACE was an institute, it also made the best prints in the world. I had Nara's prints form them which made by woodcut, they are fantastic. I think the quality of the print is as good as you can gets in the industry. Lastly, $4K for a print that has 100 run is not crazy at all if KAWS is considered as first tier contemporary artist, simply compare to Damien Hirst, Koons, Kusama, Murakami, Nara... We all just can't believe the fact that KAWS is or been push to the next level by the art world/market.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 10:51:27 GMT 1, Covert shadows I haven't spat the dummy out ! Just hate time wasters ? Why say you are selling something at $37500? Then you ask me for a firm offer which I made then no response ? And after 24 hours still no response As I said , you are full of shit ! Sell or shut up .. Me thinks you have decided to up the price now that I and others have shown interest Take a full bite if you wish !!
Covert shadows I haven't spat the dummy out ! Just hate time wasters ? Why say you are selling something at $37500? Then you ask me for a firm offer which I made then no response ? And after 24 hours still no response As I said , you are full of shit ! Sell or shut up .. Me thinks you have decided to up the price now that I and others have shown interest Take a full bite if you wish !!
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by dazarino on Mar 19, 2015 11:00:36 GMT 1, That's what I love about this forum, so many different views, I'm glad this thread has been sensibly discussed with no trolling involved at all. Oh with a little bit of entertainment from a certain buyer and seller
I think this thread has shown we have some real fans of kaws on here that believe in the longevity of his career, I myself like him but imo he will never be as famous as banksy.he will stand besides others in the urban art scene but not above.
I think his work in other areas is where his legacy will rest
Still.... I love his work and can't wait to have a piece on the wall
That's what I love about this forum, so many different views, I'm glad this thread has been sensibly discussed with no trolling involved at all. Oh with a little bit of entertainment from a certain buyer and seller I think this thread has shown we have some real fans of kaws on here that believe in the longevity of his career, I myself like him but imo he will never be as famous as banksy.he will stand besides others in the urban art scene but not above. I think his work in other areas is where his legacy will rest Still.... I love his work and can't wait to have a piece on the wall
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Winter on Mar 19, 2015 11:37:59 GMT 1, here we go: Swizzbeatz son's room.
They really need some space in between. Not liking that at all.
Too tight to the ceiling - really screwed that installation. Hope it doesn't affect his son's judgement later in life.
here we go: Swizzbeatz son's room.
They really need some space in between. Not liking that at all.
Too tight to the ceiling - really screwed that installation. Hope it doesn't affect his son's judgement later in life.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by covertshadowops on Mar 19, 2015 12:34:00 GMT 1, Covert shadows I haven't spat the dummy out ! Just hate time wasters ? Why say you are selling something at $37500? Then you ask me for a firm offer which I made then no response ? And after 24 hours still no response As I said , you are full of s**t ! Sell or shut up .. Me thinks you have decided to up the price now that I and others have shown interest Take a full bite if you wish !! wasting time? a deal doesnt have to take 24 hours to complete, it could take 1 week.? full of shit i might be, but i am selling them, just cus you dont like the price you are getting frustrated it seems. and no, i havent put the price up. its $37,500.... in fact my bottom price is $36,000. no lower. take it or leave it. get your money out or shut up. here are the pics or some of the prints.
oh, BTW.... i think i am the only person with a set of these on this forum i am sure, probably in the UK. unless someone corrects me and proves me otherwise.
this set is for sale, but if no one wants to buy, then i will push it back under the bed for another time.
Covert shadows I haven't spat the dummy out ! Just hate time wasters ? Why say you are selling something at $37500? Then you ask me for a firm offer which I made then no response ? And after 24 hours still no response As I said , you are full of s**t ! Sell or shut up .. Me thinks you have decided to up the price now that I and others have shown interest Take a full bite if you wish !! wasting time? a deal doesnt have to take 24 hours to complete, it could take 1 week.? full of shit i might be, but i am selling them, just cus you dont like the price you are getting frustrated it seems. and no, i havent put the price up. its $37,500.... in fact my bottom price is $36,000. no lower. take it or leave it. get your money out or shut up. here are the pics or some of the prints. oh, BTW.... i think i am the only person with a set of these on this forum i am sure, probably in the UK. unless someone corrects me and proves me otherwise. this set is for sale, but if no one wants to buy, then i will push it back under the bed for another time.
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 12:42:10 GMT 1, Thank you ! Simples Right who is in ? All those that PMd me let me know if your defo in ?
Thank you ! Simples Right who is in ? All those that PMd me let me know if your defo in ?
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Kaws • No Reply • 10 Print Set, by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 12:42:51 GMT 1, $36000/10=$3600 each !
$36000/10=$3600 each !
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