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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by gatecrasher on Jul 4, 2015 23:42:57 GMT 1, A/Ps and P/Ps aren't usually numbered. I have had a couple of AP's and PP's by various artists and they have all been numbered.
Maybe artists have moved on from PPs being actual proofs for the printer and APs being gifted to friends and family, in which case they didn't need to be numbered as they weren't of an edition or have any future value.
Are APs now just a little extra income that an artist can make on top of an edition release ? Who knows what PPs are :S
A/Ps and P/Ps aren't usually numbered. I have had a couple of AP's and PP's by various artists and they have all been numbered. Me too .. mine aren't though. Maybe artists have moved on from PPs being actual proofs for the printer and APs being gifted to friends and family, in which case they didn't need to be numbered as they weren't of an edition or have any future value. Are APs now just a little extra income that an artist can make on top of an edition release ? Who knows what PPs are :S |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 0:01:56 GMT 1, I have had a couple of AP's and PP's by various artists and they have all been numbered. Me too .. mine aren't though. Maybe artists have moved on from PPs being actual proofs for the printer and APs being gifted to friends and family, in which case they didn't need to be numbered as they weren't of an edition or have any future value. Are APs now just a little extra income that an artist can make on top of an edition release ? Who knows what PPs are :S
Not sure, one of my AP's is the Red IFTL edition of 8 which is very much different from the normal edition but the others look pretty much like normal edition. I also had a black nick walker empire state TMA which was a PP and Im sure that was numbered but cant be certain, fantastic version.
I have had a couple of AP's and PP's by various artists and they have all been numbered. Me too .. mine aren't though. Maybe artists have moved on from PPs being actual proofs for the printer and APs being gifted to friends and family, in which case they didn't need to be numbered as they weren't of an edition or have any future value. Are APs now just a little extra income that an artist can make on top of an edition release ? Who knows what PPs are :S Not sure, one of my AP's is the Red IFTL edition of 8 which is very much different from the normal edition but the others look pretty much like normal edition. I also had a black nick walker empire state TMA which was a PP and Im sure that was numbered but cant be certain, fantastic version. |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by 11 on Jul 5, 2015 0:42:47 GMT 1, AP's were traditionally (and still are with some artists) different from the main edition with it being colours, paper or size and not necessarily for friends and family but were regarded as special, more desirable than the main edition.
True Printers Proofs would be 'working prints' of a slightly different colour or not as many colours and would be marked with printers references and typically would only be 2 or 3 produced. Traditionally both the artist and printer would sign them and maybe keep one each.
When there is no difference between an AP, PP and the main edition then they are just 'over-runs' and marked with these 'special terms' purely for commercial gain (IMO)
Very few artists seem to declare the entire edition up-front - Hush and Guy Denning spring to mind as being very transparent in this area but even with Mr B we are constantly surprised to see a different edition of a 10yr old print that nobody knew existed.
Everybody says wow then - although most of his special editions do differ from the main so i'll give him that ;D
AP's were traditionally (and still are with some artists) different from the main edition with it being colours, paper or size and not necessarily for friends and family but were regarded as special, more desirable than the main edition.
True Printers Proofs would be 'working prints' of a slightly different colour or not as many colours and would be marked with printers references and typically would only be 2 or 3 produced. Traditionally both the artist and printer would sign them and maybe keep one each.
When there is no difference between an AP, PP and the main edition then they are just 'over-runs' and marked with these 'special terms' purely for commercial gain (IMO)
Very few artists seem to declare the entire edition up-front - Hush and Guy Denning spring to mind as being very transparent in this area but even with Mr B we are constantly surprised to see a different edition of a 10yr old print that nobody knew existed.
Everybody says wow then - although most of his special editions do differ from the main so i'll give him that ;D
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by natstan on Jul 5, 2015 3:36:39 GMT 1, Must have been the most number of auctions for a print at any one time on the bay i have seen so far...
Must have been the most number of auctions for a print at any one time on the bay i have seen so far...
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Rsyok on Jul 5, 2015 8:51:08 GMT 1, Must have been the most number of auctions for a print at any one time on the bay i have seen so far...
Have you heard of Mr Brainwash?
Must have been the most number of auctions for a print at any one time on the bay i have seen so far... Have you heard of Mr Brainwash? |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Wilson on Jul 5, 2015 9:30:12 GMT 1, Must have been the most number of auctions for a print at any one time on the bay i have seen so far...
Eine B's and C's take that honour
Must have been the most number of auctions for a print at any one time on the bay i have seen so far... Eine B's and C's take that honour |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Finsbury on Jul 5, 2015 11:08:07 GMT 1, That looks fookin wicked. Framing dilemma's ahoy!
That looks fookin wicked. Framing dilemma's ahoy! |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by disturbart on Jul 5, 2015 11:27:00 GMT 1,
Frame looks good and good value
Out of interest is the print touching the glass?
Frame looks good and good value Out of interest is the print touching the glass? |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Board Stupid on Jul 5, 2015 11:31:37 GMT 1, That looks fookin wicked. Framing dilemma's ahoy!
Where did you get the frame from?
That looks fookin wicked. Framing dilemma's ahoy! Where did you get the frame from? |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by klyde on Jul 5, 2015 11:44:00 GMT 1, Bought from homebase. My local one has a habitat section. You can also buy online. £30. Yes the print touches the glass, but to be honest I have never had an issue with this. It's not above a heat source or in direct Sunlight so will certainly do for now. I'll probably get it framed with a decent mount etc to go with others in the room at some point.
Bought from homebase. My local one has a habitat section. You can also buy online. £30. Yes the print touches the glass, but to be honest I have never had an issue with this. It's not above a heat source or in direct Sunlight so will certainly do for now. I'll probably get it framed with a decent mount etc to go with others in the room at some point.
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by laurentbaboo on Jul 5, 2015 11:53:49 GMT 1, That is the Joy of a 50x70 print release, can get it frame straight away without spending a fortune, and still look amazing!
That is the Joy of a 50x70 print release, can get it frame straight away without spending a fortune, and still look amazing!
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by bilbo on Jul 5, 2015 12:19:52 GMT 1, Both AP's and PP's are pretty much 10% of the 225 regular edition, which to me is a normal run. Hey Ruggs. I'm not comparing it with other releases by Eelus. Maybe it's different in the urban scene, or maybe I'm out of date, but I always thought that it's usual for there to be only very few PP's, sometimes only 1. Isn't having 20-25 missing the point of what a PP is? Not intending to be critical of this particular artist. I was merely suprised that there would be this amount of PP's for any print. Unless, of course, there were a lot of printers involved!
If I remember rightly with ATR Eelus had a lot of trouble with printing it due to the number of colours in the print and the release was delayed by a good few months. So maybe the number of PPs or APs might be larger than normally expected because of it?
Both AP's and PP's are pretty much 10% of the 225 regular edition, which to me is a normal run. Hey Ruggs. I'm not comparing it with other releases by Eelus. Maybe it's different in the urban scene, or maybe I'm out of date, but I always thought that it's usual for there to be only very few PP's, sometimes only 1. Isn't having 20-25 missing the point of what a PP is? Not intending to be critical of this particular artist. I was merely suprised that there would be this amount of PP's for any print. Unless, of course, there were a lot of printers involved! If I remember rightly with ATR Eelus had a lot of trouble with printing it due to the number of colours in the print and the release was delayed by a good few months. So maybe the number of PPs or APs might be larger than normally expected because of it? |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Ruggs on Jul 5, 2015 14:30:30 GMT 1, Both AP's and PP's are pretty much 10% of the 225 regular edition, which to me is a normal run. Hey Ruggs. I'm not comparing it with other releases by Eelus. Maybe it's different in the urban scene, or maybe I'm out of date, but I always thought that it's usual for there to be only very few PP's, sometimes only 1. Isn't having 20-25 missing the point of what a PP is? Not intending to be critical of this particular artist. I was merely suprised that there would be this amount of PP's for any print. Unless, of course, there were a lot of printers involved!
Both AP's and PP's are pretty much 10% of the 225 regular edition, which to me is a normal run. Hey Ruggs. I'm not comparing it with other releases by Eelus. Maybe it's different in the urban scene, or maybe I'm out of date, but I always thought that it's usual for there to be only very few PP's, sometimes only 1. Isn't having 20-25 missing the point of what a PP is? Not intending to be critical of this particular artist. I was merely suprised that there would be this amount of PP's for any print. Unless, of course, there were a lot of printers involved! Not disagreeing with you coach. It's seems normal to do a run of 20-25 AP's based on the total of the regular edition. Maybe Eelus and AR were being intentionally over generous on the number of PP's they made available. Remember the production of the print would have taken some months to produce, so they probably ended up printing a fair amount along the way in order to get it as perfect as possible and decided to mark those as PP's. Either way at least they made a few more available for us. |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Ruggs on Jul 6, 2015 11:08:23 GMT 1, Print delivered this morning. Firstly, just want to say well done to Art Republic and Eelus for using a very large, strong, bomb proof tube and great inner packaging. Print is incredible. Colours are amazing on thick paper stock. Another one for MFM to sort.
Print delivered this morning. Firstly, just want to say well done to Art Republic and Eelus for using a very large, strong, bomb proof tube and great inner packaging. Print is incredible. Colours are amazing on thick paper stock. Another one for MFM to sort.
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by t3c on Jul 6, 2015 11:12:49 GMT 1, Hope i get my wood version this week, prints look the business
Hope i get my wood version this week, prints look the business
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Wilson on Jul 6, 2015 11:35:10 GMT 1, Print delivered this morning. Firstly, just want to say well done to Art Republic and Eelus for using a very large, strong, bomb proof tube and great inner packaging. Print is incredible. Colours are amazing on thick paper stock. Another one for MFM to sort. How did it arrive Ruggs? My post has been and nothing. The tracking refs don't work.
Parp!
Print delivered this morning. Firstly, just want to say well done to Art Republic and Eelus for using a very large, strong, bomb proof tube and great inner packaging. Print is incredible. Colours are amazing on thick paper stock. Another one for MFM to sort. How did it arrive Ruggs? My post has been and nothing. The tracking refs don't work.
Parp!
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Ruggs on Jul 6, 2015 11:40:13 GMT 1, Print delivered this morning. Firstly, just want to say well done to Art Republic and Eelus for using a very large, strong, bomb proof tube and great inner packaging. Print is incredible. Colours are amazing on thick paper stock. Another one for MFM to sort. How did it arrive Ruggs? My post has been and nothing. The tracking refs don't work.
Parp!
The normal UPS chap rocked up this morning.
Print delivered this morning. Firstly, just want to say well done to Art Republic and Eelus for using a very large, strong, bomb proof tube and great inner packaging. Print is incredible. Colours are amazing on thick paper stock. Another one for MFM to sort. How did it arrive Ruggs? My post has been and nothing. The tracking refs don't work.
Parp!
The normal UPS chap rocked up this morning. |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Wilson on Jul 6, 2015 11:46:26 GMT 1, Hope they get to mine before the Art Stasi get back from their coffee morning. She has seen the Ebay prices and has it in her head that my WTNFU will be best part ex'd for garden stuff
Hope they get to mine before the Art Stasi get back from their coffee morning. She has seen the Ebay prices and has it in her head that my WTNFU will be best part ex'd for garden stuff
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by porkus on Jul 6, 2015 11:46:51 GMT 1, Print delivered this morning. Firstly, just want to say well done to Art Republic and Eelus for using a very large, strong, bomb proof tube and great inner packaging. Print is incredible. Colours are amazing on thick paper stock. Another one for MFM to sort. How did it arrive Ruggs? My post has been and nothing. The tracking refs don't work.
Parp!
Print delivered this morning. Firstly, just want to say well done to Art Republic and Eelus for using a very large, strong, bomb proof tube and great inner packaging. Print is incredible. Colours are amazing on thick paper stock. Another one for MFM to sort. How did it arrive Ruggs? My post has been and nothing. The tracking refs don't work.
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by badgersurf on Jul 6, 2015 13:14:14 GMT 1, Hope they get to mine before the Art Stasi get back from their coffee morning. She has seen the Ebay prices and has it in her head that my WTNFU will be best part ex'd for garden stuff Sell the print to me for cost, that will show her who wears the trousers in your relationship, and she can't expect you to compromise your principles and become a hated flipper just for her garden furniture! 
Hope they get to mine before the Art Stasi get back from their coffee morning. She has seen the Ebay prices and has it in her head that my WTNFU will be best part ex'd for garden stuff Sell the print to me for cost, that will show her who wears the trousers in your relationship, and she can't expect you to compromise your principles and become a hated flipper just for her garden furniture!
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by Wilson on Jul 6, 2015 13:28:07 GMT 1, Hope they get to mine before the Art Stasi get back from their coffee morning. She has seen the Ebay prices and has it in her head that my WTNFU will be best part ex'd for garden stuff Sell the print to me for cost, that will show her who wears the trousers in your relationship, and she can't expect you to compromise your principles and become a hated flipper just for her garden furniture!
Or better still soak it in water and grow cress on it. A reminder of the consequences of messing with me every time she has an egg sandwich
Hope they get to mine before the Art Stasi get back from their coffee morning. She has seen the Ebay prices and has it in her head that my WTNFU will be best part ex'd for garden stuff Sell the print to me for cost, that will show her who wears the trousers in your relationship, and she can't expect you to compromise your principles and become a hated flipper just for her garden furniture!
Or better still soak it in water and grow cress on it. A reminder of the consequences of messing with me every time she has an egg sandwich
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by porkus on Jul 6, 2015 16:12:04 GMT 1, Mine's just arrived  enormous tube, very well packaged, too many kids & animals about at the minute I'll wait 'til tonight for the unveiling. I've never had a print with a certificate with it before, whats the norm? stick it to the back of the frame? Bearing in mind that I lose everything
Mine's just arrived enormous tube, very well packaged, too many kids & animals about at the minute I'll wait 'til tonight for the unveiling. I've never had a print with a certificate with it before, whats the norm? stick it to the back of the frame? Bearing in mind that I lose everything |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by securityman on Jul 6, 2015 16:16:38 GMT 1, I keep the Coa separate, but if you lose everything, then yes behind the frame will do. I keep them separate in case of insurance claim. It will make it easier if you still have the paper work.
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I keep the Coa separate, but if you lose everything, then yes behind the frame will do. I keep them separate in case of insurance claim. It will make it easier if you still have the paper work.
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by behaviorist on Jul 6, 2015 16:45:55 GMT 1, Mine's just arrived enormous tube, very well packaged, too many kids & animals about at the minute I'll wait 'til tonight for the unveiling. I've never had a print with a certificate with it before, whats the norm? stick it to the back of the frame? Bearing in mind that I lose everything
Mine's just arrived enormous tube, very well packaged, too many kids & animals about at the minute I'll wait 'til tonight for the unveiling. I've never had a print with a certificate with it before, whats the norm? stick it to the back of the frame? Bearing in mind that I lose everything my framers have always installed a small sleeve in the back, upon request, to keep the COA stored. efficient, easy to access, and archival! |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by t3c on Jul 6, 2015 16:59:36 GMT 1, Mine's just arrived enormous tube, very well packaged, too many kids & animals about at the minute I'll wait 'til tonight for the unveiling. I've never had a print with a certificate with it before, whats the norm? stick it to the back of the frame? Bearing in mind that I lose everything my framers have always installed a small sleeve in the back, upon request, to keep the COA stored. efficient, easy to access, and archival!
Gary @ MFM always tends to do that as well, very handy
Mine's just arrived enormous tube, very well packaged, too many kids & animals about at the minute I'll wait 'til tonight for the unveiling. I've never had a print with a certificate with it before, whats the norm? stick it to the back of the frame? Bearing in mind that I lose everything my framers have always installed a small sleeve in the back, upon request, to keep the COA stored. efficient, easy to access, and archival! Gary @ MFM always tends to do that as well, very handy |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by pking1601 on Jul 6, 2015 17:00:30 GMT 1, Mine turned up via UPS. As said before, massive tube but that always worries me a bit as there was too much space for the print to slide around inside, and it was, but the Kraft paper was done more like a Christmas cracker and thankfully the print was unscathed.
Mine turned up via UPS. As said before, massive tube but that always worries me a bit as there was too much space for the print to slide around inside, and it was, but the Kraft paper was done more like a Christmas cracker and thankfully the print was unscathed.
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by kultur on Jul 6, 2015 20:15:51 GMT 1, Mine's just arrived enormous tube, very well packaged, too many kids & animals about at the minute I'll wait 'til tonight for the unveiling. I've never had a print with a certificate with it before, whats the norm? stick it to the back of the frame? Bearing in mind that I lose everything my framers have always installed a small sleeve in the back, upon request, to keep the COA stored. efficient, easy to access, and archival!
Mine's just arrived enormous tube, very well packaged, too many kids & animals about at the minute I'll wait 'til tonight for the unveiling. I've never had a print with a certificate with it before, whats the norm? stick it to the back of the frame? Bearing in mind that I lose everything my framers have always installed a small sleeve in the back, upon request, to keep the COA stored. efficient, easy to access, and archival! The worst idea ever to keep the COA with the art, its like keeping the combination to the safe taped to the back. Keep the COA is a safe place away from the art. |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by kultur on Jul 6, 2015 20:39:57 GMT 1, Why did you delete your post behaviorist?
I am so sorry... it is a wonderful idea to keep your COA on the back of your artwork. I hope you have lots of Banksy prints with the COA's hidden safely on the back of the frame. Then you could share your address publicly in the forum and tell us all where you hide your spare keys. That might be a tad worse. Best of luck to you!
Why did you delete your post behaviorist? I am so sorry... it is a wonderful idea to keep your COA on the back of your artwork. I hope you have lots of Banksy prints with the COA's hidden safely on the back of the frame. Then you could share your address publicly in the forum and tell us all where you hide your spare keys. That might be a tad worse. Best of luck to you! |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by behaviorist on Jul 6, 2015 20:48:28 GMT 1, Why did you delete your post behaviorist? I am so sorry... it is a wonderful idea to keep your COA on the back of your artwork. I hope you have lots of Banksy prints with the COA's hidden safely on the back of the frame. Then you could share your address publicly in the forum and tell us all where you hide your spare keys. That might be a tad worse. Best of luck to you!
To each her/his own!
Why did you delete your post behaviorist? I am so sorry... it is a wonderful idea to keep your COA on the back of your artwork. I hope you have lots of Banksy prints with the COA's hidden safely on the back of the frame. Then you could share your address publicly in the forum and tell us all where you hide your spare keys. That might be a tad worse. Best of luck to you! I deleted it because I didn't want to engage with you on this level. Your tone's a bit off putting. To each her/his own! |
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Eelus • Where They'll Never Find Us, by klyde on Jul 6, 2015 20:56:52 GMT 1, Whatever!
Looks like I'm still winning the jam your new Eelus into a cheap frame and get it on your wall competition.
#smug
Whatever!
Looks like I'm still winning the jam your new Eelus into a cheap frame and get it on your wall competition.
#smug
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enormous tube, very well packaged, too many kids & animals about at the minute I'll wait 'til tonight for the unveiling. I've never had a print with a certificate with it before, whats the norm? stick it to the back of the frame? Bearing in mind that I lose everything 
