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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Dungle on Oct 2, 2015 12:08:02 GMT 1, question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release...
I remember a lot of lies from certain people about what they had sold their copies for.
question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... I remember a lot of lies from certain people about what they had sold their copies for.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Wilson on Oct 2, 2015 12:15:11 GMT 1, question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... Think that's right. When you start getting near ยฃ3k for a release like Baby, you start thinking a few quid more and you've a decent unsigned Banksy. Now those Liberty's have hung around at ยฃ1,500 for a while, is Baby that much better?
question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... Think that's right. When you start getting near ยฃ3k for a release like Baby, you start thinking a few quid more and you've a decent unsigned Banksy. Now those Liberty's have hung around at ยฃ1,500 for a while, is Baby that much better?
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Wilson on Oct 2, 2015 12:18:54 GMT 1, ... and another thing I'm not paying someone on Ebay ยฃ3k outta general fucking principle
... and another thing I'm not paying someone on Ebay ยฃ3k outta general fucking principle
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by iamzero on Oct 2, 2015 12:34:57 GMT 1, It sounds a bit odd to say out loud considering they're are such simple pieces of work but Liberty does show as much character as SB or Walk. I have no idea why that is for me?
It sounds a bit odd to say out loud considering they're are such simple pieces of work but Liberty does show as much character as SB or Walk. I have no idea why that is for me?
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by tab1 on Oct 2, 2015 13:45:20 GMT 1, question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release...
Down to patience again , which after a release many see prices rising and are eager and panic buy before the piece rises more , eventually they fall back again , bit like watching a penny share thread.
The dran was a good example , one recently was up for sale here for ยฃ700 ?
Stik has nice easy to hang pieces , but hasn't really done any major exhibitions or majors shows or in any major collections to warrant these high prices Just down to the fact his editions are so small and doesn't release an edition every few months ILike whatson and has a few dedicated collectors that push these prices up.
Once all the collectors that missed out have one no other General fan will pay the high prices so will/ may fall .
Happens with most popular artist releases but has spiked high with this one , maybe added with all the pr from the book as late and fb account is always posting frequently which has not been before.
question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... Down to patience again , which after a release many see prices rising and are eager and panic buy before the piece rises more , eventually they fall back again , bit like watching a penny share thread. The dran was a good example , one recently was up for sale here for ยฃ700 ? Stik has nice easy to hang pieces , but hasn't really done any major exhibitions or majors shows or in any major collections to warrant these high prices Just down to the fact his editions are so small and doesn't release an edition every few months ILike whatson and has a few dedicated collectors that push these prices up. Once all the collectors that missed out have one no other General fan will pay the high prices so will/ may fall . Happens with most popular artist releases but has spiked high with this one , maybe added with all the pr from the book as late and fb account is always posting frequently which has not been before.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 13:54:47 GMT 1, question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... Down to patience again , which after a release many see prices rising and are eager and panic buy before the piece rises more , eventually they fall back again , bit like watching a penny share thread. The dran was a good example , one recently was up for sale here for ยฃ700 ? Stik has nice easy to hang pieces , but hasn't really done any major exhibitions or majors shows or in any major collections to warrant these high prices Just down to the fact his editions are so small and doesn't release an edition every few months ILike whatson and has a few dedicated collectors that push these prices up. Once all the collectors that missed out have one no other General fan will pay the high prices so will/ may fall . Happens with most popular artist releases but has spiked high with this one , maybe added with all the pr from the book as late and fb account is always posting frequently which has not been before.
Fair point but I think Stik will have longevity and the success of the book demonstrates it. Not many artists are backed by one of the biggest names in publishing. Plus, Stik's relentless charitable work sets him apart from most others in the urban art scene and his back story is part of why people want to support him.
question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... Down to patience again , which after a release many see prices rising and are eager and panic buy before the piece rises more , eventually they fall back again , bit like watching a penny share thread. The dran was a good example , one recently was up for sale here for ยฃ700 ? Stik has nice easy to hang pieces , but hasn't really done any major exhibitions or majors shows or in any major collections to warrant these high prices Just down to the fact his editions are so small and doesn't release an edition every few months ILike whatson and has a few dedicated collectors that push these prices up. Once all the collectors that missed out have one no other General fan will pay the high prices so will/ may fall . Happens with most popular artist releases but has spiked high with this one , maybe added with all the pr from the book as late and fb account is always posting frequently which has not been before. Fair point but I think Stik will have longevity and the success of the book demonstrates it. Not many artists are backed by one of the biggest names in publishing. Plus, Stik's relentless charitable work sets him apart from most others in the urban art scene and his back story is part of why people want to support him.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by t3c on Oct 2, 2015 13:59:16 GMT 1, How many people queued up for his book release out of interest? 1000? more? less?
How many people queued up for his book release out of interest? 1000? more? less?
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by sierrahotel on Oct 2, 2015 14:05:16 GMT 1, question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... Down to patience again , which after a release many see prices rising and are eager and panic buy before the piece rises more , eventually they fall back again , bit like watching a penny share thread. The dran was a good example , one recently was up for sale here for ยฃ700 ? Stik has nice easy to hang pieces , but hasn't really done any major exhibitions or majors shows or in any major collections to warrant these high prices Just down to the fact his editions are so small and doesn't release an edition every few months ILike whatson and has a few dedicated collectors that push these prices up. Once all the collectors that missed out have one no other General fan will pay the high prices so will/ may fall . Happens with most popular artist releases but has spiked high with this one , maybe added with all the pr from the book as late and fb account is always posting frequently which has not been before. the V&A has a single mum I believe. I for one hope this print comes back down to earth so I can get one.
question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... Down to patience again , which after a release many see prices rising and are eager and panic buy before the piece rises more , eventually they fall back again , bit like watching a penny share thread. The dran was a good example , one recently was up for sale here for ยฃ700 ? Stik has nice easy to hang pieces , but hasn't really done any major exhibitions or majors shows or in any major collections to warrant these high prices Just down to the fact his editions are so small and doesn't release an edition every few months ILike whatson and has a few dedicated collectors that push these prices up. Once all the collectors that missed out have one no other General fan will pay the high prices so will/ may fall . Happens with most popular artist releases but has spiked high with this one , maybe added with all the pr from the book as late and fb account is always posting frequently which has not been before. the V&A has a single mum I believe. I for one hope this print comes back down to earth so I can get one.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by t3c on Oct 2, 2015 14:16:29 GMT 1, whats the going rate on a Single Mum?
whats the going rate on a Single Mum?
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by iamzero on Oct 2, 2015 14:37:14 GMT 1, A Bacardi breezer and a larger box of Maltesers.
A Bacardi breezer and a larger box of Maltesers.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Fะฏ on Oct 2, 2015 14:40:54 GMT 1, whats the going rate on a Single Mum?
whats the going rate on a Single Mum?
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Matt on Oct 2, 2015 14:41:45 GMT 1, question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... Down to patience again , which after a release many see prices rising and are eager and panic buy before the piece rises more , eventually they fall back again , bit like watching a penny share thread. The dran was a good example , one recently was up for sale here for ยฃ700 ? Stik has nice easy to hang pieces , but hasn't really done any major exhibitions or majors shows or in any major collections to warrant these high prices Just down to the fact his editions are so small and doesn't release an edition every few months ILike whatson and has a few dedicated collectors that push these prices up. Once all the collectors that missed out have one no other General fan will pay the high prices so will/ may fall . Happens with most popular artist releases but has spiked high with this one , maybe added with all the pr from the book as late and fb account is always posting frequently which has not been before.
Most reasonable, balanced and realistic point of view in this whole thread.
Stik is a great artist, and this is a great print, which will remain reasonably pricey in the foreseeable future, but the euphoria surrounding it will die down when the next big print hits.
Gartner has a great illustration of how new technologies move along a hype vs. creates actually value curve. Applies 100% to these prints.
question always comes down to what else can you get for 3k gbp. Remember the crazy asking prices for Dran sunset minutes after every collector missed out on the release... Down to patience again , which after a release many see prices rising and are eager and panic buy before the piece rises more , eventually they fall back again , bit like watching a penny share thread. The dran was a good example , one recently was up for sale here for ยฃ700 ? Stik has nice easy to hang pieces , but hasn't really done any major exhibitions or majors shows or in any major collections to warrant these high prices Just down to the fact his editions are so small and doesn't release an edition every few months ILike whatson and has a few dedicated collectors that push these prices up. Once all the collectors that missed out have one no other General fan will pay the high prices so will/ may fall . Happens with most popular artist releases but has spiked high with this one , maybe added with all the pr from the book as late and fb account is always posting frequently which has not been before. Most reasonable, balanced and realistic point of view in this whole thread. Stik is a great artist, and this is a great print, which will remain reasonably pricey in the foreseeable future, but the euphoria surrounding it will die down when the next big print hits. Gartner has a great illustration of how new technologies move along a hype vs. creates actually value curve. Applies 100% to these prints.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by 11 on Oct 2, 2015 14:44:38 GMT 1, whats the going rate on a Single Mum? How about an opinion from someone that isn't holding....
whats the going rate on a Single Mum? How about an opinion from someone that isn't holding....
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Fะฏ on Oct 2, 2015 14:46:24 GMT 1, How about an opinion from someone that isn't holding.... holding? It was a joke mate.
How about an opinion from someone that isn't holding.... holding? It was a joke mate.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Coach on Oct 2, 2015 14:47:47 GMT 1, whats the going rate on a Single Mum?
What is that supposed to mean?
It's like a playground here sometimes.
whats the going rate on a Single Mum? What is that supposed to mean? It's like a playground here sometimes.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Fะฏ on Oct 2, 2015 14:48:23 GMT 1, some jokes go right over people. i wont bother next time.
some jokes go right over people. i wont bother next time.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by sakyamuni on Oct 2, 2015 14:53:05 GMT 1, whats the going rate on a Single Mum? original price was ยฃ75 so my guess would be a bit higher than that...
whats the going rate on a Single Mum? original price was ยฃ75 so my guess would be a bit higher than that...
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by t3c on Oct 2, 2015 15:02:16 GMT 1, some jokes go right over people. i wont bother next time. I got it. I lol'd
some jokes go right over people. i wont bother next time. I got it. I lol'd
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by t3c on Oct 2, 2015 15:02:26 GMT 1, whats the going rate on a Single Mum? original price was ยฃ75 so my guess would be a bit higher than that... ..annnnnnnd another
whats the going rate on a Single Mum? original price was ยฃ75 so my guess would be a bit higher than that... ..annnnnnnd another
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by sierrahotel on Oct 2, 2015 15:04:19 GMT 1, I thought the dr evil joke was funny.
it's pricing versus value as damodaran would but it. Under current pricing conditions (baby trading at 2000/2500 or whatever) single mum should be worth more as the older print, and one of his more popular images, in my opinion.
that said, I don't think the current price of baby, means that the fair value of all Stik work have just tracked up insanely. I don't like the word hype, because I don't think there is any organized manipulation going on here - I think the queue, and the fact that only 10 have come to market for sure suggests genuine excitement, and a bit of panic in the secondary market.
disclosure - I own 4 stik prints, a plaque, and 2 large cut outs.
I thought the dr evil joke was funny.
it's pricing versus value as damodaran would but it. Under current pricing conditions (baby trading at 2000/2500 or whatever) single mum should be worth more as the older print, and one of his more popular images, in my opinion.
that said, I don't think the current price of baby, means that the fair value of all Stik work have just tracked up insanely. I don't like the word hype, because I don't think there is any organized manipulation going on here - I think the queue, and the fact that only 10 have come to market for sure suggests genuine excitement, and a bit of panic in the secondary market.
disclosure - I own 4 stik prints, a plaque, and 2 large cut outs.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by 11 on Oct 2, 2015 15:06:19 GMT 1, This particular image has resonated with many people, coupled with the subtle hyping has created a bigger spike than normal.
I havent seen anything to suggest a significant shift in his overall market - Liberty remains at the ยฃ1.5k mark and I would assume that Single Mum, Lovers and the like will remain on par for the prices they were fetching before this drop
Some that claim to hold nothing but have stocked piled will be doing their best to create an impression of an artist that has now broken through the glass ceiling and prices will only ever go in one direction now
This is all post-drop hype - lets see if things have settled a bit in a month
This particular image has resonated with many people, coupled with the subtle hyping has created a bigger spike than normal.
I havent seen anything to suggest a significant shift in his overall market - Liberty remains at the ยฃ1.5k mark and I would assume that Single Mum, Lovers and the like will remain on par for the prices they were fetching before this drop
Some that claim to hold nothing but have stocked piled will be doing their best to create an impression of an artist that has now broken through the glass ceiling and prices will only ever go in one direction now
This is all post-drop hype - lets see if things have settled a bit in a month
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Missy Parrot on Oct 2, 2015 15:29:53 GMT 1, A Lovers sold here for ยฃ3500 a little while ago , so single mum must be around that price ? I think sleeping baby is a better print then liberty, and is probably worth about ยฃ2K . I bid ยฃ1K on Diva but the nude colour way on eBay a year ago and lost out to a forum member , i wish I bid more but i do have the reg edition ...... anyone know what the starting price of a canvas is now ?
A Lovers sold here for ยฃ3500 a little while ago , so single mum must be around that price ? I think sleeping baby is a better print then liberty, and is probably worth about ยฃ2K . I bid ยฃ1K on Diva but the nude colour way on eBay a year ago and lost out to a forum member , i wish I bid more but i do have the reg edition ...... anyone know what the starting price of a canvas is now ?
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Gunny on Oct 2, 2015 20:16:11 GMT 1, Thanks for all the comments. I have found the cash I needed so happy to say this will now be going to gary for framing this week. I am gรฌng to offer up the poster i got for the charity and the best offer will get it and the winner will pay HOMERTON charity direct. Will do a thread for this, this week. All the best to all
Thanks for all the comments. I have found the cash I needed so happy to say this will now be going to gary for framing this week. I am gรฌng to offer up the poster i got for the charity and the best offer will get it and the winner will pay HOMERTON charity direct. Will do a thread for this, this week. All the best to all
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by rjf76 on Oct 2, 2015 20:48:22 GMT 1, Cost?
Cost?
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by yoyosh on Oct 2, 2015 20:57:35 GMT 1, Are we getting mad about this or nah?
Are we getting mad about this or nah?
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by rjf76 on Oct 2, 2015 21:10:58 GMT 1, Nah not really...just thought we had a bit more integrity on here.
Nah not really...just thought we had a bit more integrity on here.
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by duggyfresh on Oct 2, 2015 21:16:54 GMT 1, Brave!!
Brave!!
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 21:18:32 GMT 1, Brave it is, once upon a time you would get attacked on this forum for this!
Brave it is, once upon a time you would get attacked on this forum for this!
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 21:19:04 GMT 1, Nah not really...just thought we had a bit more integrity on here. dream on....
Charity print
ยฃ500 for the charity
ยฃ2,500 for queuing for a day
maybe i have it wrong?
Nah not really...just thought we had a bit more integrity on here. dream on.... Charity print ยฃ500 for the charity ยฃ2,500 for queuing for a day maybe i have it wrong?
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Stik Sleeping Baby, by chads007 on Oct 2, 2015 21:20:18 GMT 1, Nice days queuing
Nice days queuing
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