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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Print Them All on Sept 22, 2015 15:18:59 GMT 1, PTA is happy to announce the next print release by legendary Ron English:
African Elephant Ron English 6 Colors lithograph 60,5 x 87 cm Paper : 270 gr BFK Rives Edition size : 99
Available @ random time on 22nd of Sept via PrintThemAll.com!
PTA is happy to announce the next print release by legendary Ron English: African Elephant Ron English 6 Colors lithograph 60,5 x 87 cm Paper : 270 gr BFK Rives Edition size : 99 Available @ random time on 22nd of Sept via PrintThemAll.com!
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Archer Designs 13 on Sept 23, 2015 15:41:05 GMT 1, Thoughts on this piece? I really like it for some reason - I think it's how clean it is
Thoughts on this piece? I really like it for some reason - I think it's how clean it is
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South Bound
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by South Bound on Sept 23, 2015 15:52:28 GMT 1, I think it looks great, not really my style. But I dig it, the detail on it is fantastic. Nice work by PTA (I have definitely been hard on them in the past).
I think it looks great, not really my style. But I dig it, the detail on it is fantastic. Nice work by PTA (I have definitely been hard on them in the past).
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Happy Shopper on Sept 23, 2015 16:00:19 GMT 1, Unless you're really into elephants, Africa or both I just can't see anyone hanging this !?
Big fan of Ron English but this is a weird print!
Unless you're really into elephants, Africa or both I just can't see anyone hanging this !?
Big fan of Ron English but this is a weird print!
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mojo
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May 2014
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by mojo on Sept 23, 2015 16:19:12 GMT 1, I like how he's made the ears in the shape of Africa. Maybe it's the 'elephant in the room' ?
I like how he's made the ears in the shape of Africa. Maybe it's the 'elephant in the room' ?
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kel
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by kel on Sept 23, 2015 16:35:27 GMT 1, Easiest pass since Socrates to Zico in 1982
Easiest pass since Socrates to Zico in 1982
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Happy Shopper on Sept 23, 2015 16:37:08 GMT 1, I like how he's made the ears in the shape of Africa. Maybe it's the 'elephant in the room' ? Is Brian Sewell still with us?
I like how he's made the ears in the shape of Africa. Maybe it's the 'elephant in the room' ? Is Brian Sewell still with us?
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mojo
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by mojo on Sept 23, 2015 17:32:33 GMT 1, I like how he's made the ears in the shape of Africa. Maybe it's the 'elephant in the room' ? Is Brian Sewell still with us? ha ha you've obviously never heard my accent! I did meet Brian Sewell once at an event I was working at. He asked/told me to buy him a packet of fags. He was very snobby and posh and spoke to everyone like something he'd trod in. For Real. RIP Brian
I like how he's made the ears in the shape of Africa. Maybe it's the 'elephant in the room' ? Is Brian Sewell still with us? ha ha you've obviously never heard my accent! I did meet Brian Sewell once at an event I was working at. He asked/told me to buy him a packet of fags. He was very snobby and posh and spoke to everyone like something he'd trod in. For Real. RIP Brian
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Icesay
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March 2010
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Icesay on Sept 23, 2015 17:47:12 GMT 1, Who doesn't like elephants!? Or the cradle of mankind!? And who doesn't hate the oppression of Africa and it's people!?
Who doesn't like elephants!? Or the cradle of mankind!? And who doesn't hate the oppression of Africa and it's people!?
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Archer Designs 13 on Sept 23, 2015 18:18:52 GMT 1, Was there an artist statement that came along with the release?
Was there an artist statement that came along with the release?
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Happy Shopper on Sept 24, 2015 10:58:52 GMT 1, Was there an artist statement that came along with the release? It might help. It looks like the sort of print that would be released to raise money for a good cause... but not sure if it is!??
Was there an artist statement that came along with the release? It might help. It looks like the sort of print that would be released to raise money for a good cause... but not sure if it is!??
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Con Art Studio
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April 2007
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Con Art Studio on Sept 24, 2015 13:25:00 GMT 1, Thoughts on this piece? I really like it for some reason - I think it's how clean it is fan of Ron English and really like the image but the composition (placement) of the elephant on the paper is absolutely horrible. Each ear almost bleeds off the sides of the paper and there's too much white space above and below the image. It's as if they just used whatever paper they had lying around and just dropped the image onto it without any thought. The paper shape is completely wrong for the image and unfortunately, ruins it for me.
Thoughts on this piece? I really like it for some reason - I think it's how clean it is fan of Ron English and really like the image but the composition (placement) of the elephant on the paper is absolutely horrible. Each ear almost bleeds off the sides of the paper and there's too much white space above and below the image. It's as if they just used whatever paper they had lying around and just dropped the image onto it without any thought. The paper shape is completely wrong for the image and unfortunately, ruins it for me.
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 13:39:45 GMT 1, Who doesn't like elephants!? Or the cradle of mankind!? And who doesn't hate the oppression of Africa and it's people!? Me, because I live in Africa, in cradle of mankind, and I can tell you that this all elephant thing is just a great way to milk the ignorant westerners...
Here, just few reasons:
1/ There are - in some areas of Africa - too many elephants (despite alarming poaching recently)
2/ Governments spend billions of dollars to move elephants from one place to another (stupid waste of money)
3/ Elephants in Kenya kill about 120 persons per year and another thousand injurd per year. But this, nobody speak about.
4/ People killed or injured by elephants get nothing (may be a 1000 euros max per death)
3/ Overpopulation means nature is destroyed. Also they like to destroy crops and they consume lot of water (hydric stress)
4/ Most water resources are gazetted and included in national park and/or reserves, forcing nomadic people to move and walk for hours (if not days) to get water, same for cattle.
5/ Elephants bring lot of tourists, sure, but communities never ever got their share of money collected by authorities. Promises to share water by installing pump station and pipe were never done.
6/ A good one, money donated usually goes to British Trust or private trustees (rarely communities or authorities), it means that money you give goes to the grandson of a white colon who presumably live on stolen land and often behave like an arrogant white hunter.
7/ Most poachers have backup in police and government (yep, MPs are known to fund poachers) and money you send to the white guy in his farm will not help. To fight poaching, it is simple, you need to fight CORRUPTION
In general, I find it amazing that animal life usually bring more interest than human life... So yes, people in Africa are oppressed by the elephants, land grabbers, politicians and tourism and they don't get much.
*********** This said; this work is Ron English is indeed very odd, unusual and not very nice.
Still have one of mine for sale at 70 euros www.flickr.com/photos/drugzilla/albums/72157631333796100
Who doesn't like elephants!? Or the cradle of mankind!? And who doesn't hate the oppression of Africa and it's people!? Me, because I live in Africa, in cradle of mankind, and I can tell you that this all elephant thing is just a great way to milk the ignorant westerners... Here, just few reasons: 1/ There are - in some areas of Africa - too many elephants (despite alarming poaching recently) 2/ Governments spend billions of dollars to move elephants from one place to another (stupid waste of money) 3/ Elephants in Kenya kill about 120 persons per year and another thousand injurd per year. But this, nobody speak about. 4/ People killed or injured by elephants get nothing (may be a 1000 euros max per death) 3/ Overpopulation means nature is destroyed. Also they like to destroy crops and they consume lot of water (hydric stress) 4/ Most water resources are gazetted and included in national park and/or reserves, forcing nomadic people to move and walk for hours (if not days) to get water, same for cattle. 5/ Elephants bring lot of tourists, sure, but communities never ever got their share of money collected by authorities. Promises to share water by installing pump station and pipe were never done. 6/ A good one, money donated usually goes to British Trust or private trustees (rarely communities or authorities), it means that money you give goes to the grandson of a white colon who presumably live on stolen land and often behave like an arrogant white hunter. 7/ Most poachers have backup in police and government (yep, MPs are known to fund poachers) and money you send to the white guy in his farm will not help. To fight poaching, it is simple, you need to fight CORRUPTION In general, I find it amazing that animal life usually bring more interest than human life... So yes, people in Africa are oppressed by the elephants, land grabbers, politicians and tourism and they don't get much.
*********** This said; this work is Ron English is indeed very odd, unusual and not very nice. Still have one of mine for sale at 70 euros www.flickr.com/photos/drugzilla/albums/72157631333796100
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by greatplainsman on Sept 24, 2015 14:11:46 GMT 1, Sounds like your problem is Greedy, Stupid humans... Not Elephants.
Sounds like your problem is Greedy, Stupid humans... Not Elephants.
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sakyamuni
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by sakyamuni on Sept 24, 2015 16:03:54 GMT 1, bigboss, no offense but this is some of the stupidest post i have seen on this forum... Nobody understand "africa" but you... Interesting... You may get a few things you see from your window but i fear that's about it. And please, stop saying you live in africa when you actually live in kenya. Africa, like every continent is big, complex, and with dozen of countries, all different thank you ?
bigboss, no offense but this is some of the stupidest post i have seen on this forum... Nobody understand "africa" but you... Interesting... You may get a few things you see from your window but i fear that's about it. And please, stop saying you live in africa when you actually live in kenya. Africa, like every continent is big, complex, and with dozen of countries, all different thank you ?
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RolexDave
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September 2009
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by RolexDave on Sept 24, 2015 16:27:27 GMT 1, .... 54 countries in Africa..... Just saying......
.... 54 countries in Africa..... Just saying......
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Inknart
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April 2015
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Inknart on Sept 24, 2015 18:01:03 GMT 1, I found the comments in this thread a little more interesting than the piece itself haha.
I found the comments in this thread a little more interesting than the piece itself haha.
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clockshovel
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February 2015
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by clockshovel on Sept 24, 2015 18:52:22 GMT 1, Hellabeauty
Hellabeauty
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Icesay
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March 2010
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Icesay on Sept 24, 2015 19:06:12 GMT 1, 2/ Government spent billions of dollars to move elephants from one place to another.
Wow is that true!? Billions? How are they moving them?
Seriously though I don't know the facts but would be nice if the proceeds of the print went to some good cause.
2/ Government spent billions of dollars to move elephants from one place to another.
Wow is that true!? Billions? How are they moving them?
Seriously though I don't know the facts but would be nice if the proceeds of the print went to some good cause.
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 20:50:48 GMT 1, bigboss, no offense but this is some of the stupidest post i have seen on this forum... Nobody understand "africa" but you... Interesting... I said "Africa, in the cradle of mankind" to quote the post. I never said "nobody knows Africa but me", I said "ignorant westerners". Nothing interested, living in Africa, I may know more than people living outside Africa.You may get a few things you see from your window but i fear that's about it. Which window ? Sure I have a house and a office with windows... that's about it, hehehe, I fear you are wrong, do you know me ? What's do you see from your windows, sakya ?
Well, thank to you too but I have been to school. AI think if I live in Kenya, I live in Africa; why should stop saying this ? What should I say then Sure there are many countries in Africa but get your fact, Kenya has been for many years (since the 80s up to now) for a full ban of ivory trade and this has been implemented at African level, despite the fact that most other African countries were in favor of limited and controlled trade.
So sure it is complex, so sharing my point of view is on point. It's may be the stupidest post of the year (I am waiting for my price) but since you didn't brought any interesting facts to this (except primary level geography), I'll give you second place. no offense, thank you ?? No pun fight, no need to get pop corn, I let you tell me what you see from your window in your continent... and just ignore you I guess.
Anyway, for good cause or not, I am sure the artist had fun at PrintThemAll printing, a great one from what I have seen, and that printing is quality. But as said someone above, it is blunt, the background is bad and the elephant itself is like any elephant you get here in "Curio shop" along the route. Otherwise, I like Ron English, been following for years... very odd.
As for giving to elephants, whatever you do is fine, but me I don't.
Bye
bigboss, no offense but this is some of the stupidest post i have seen on this forum... Nobody understand "africa" but you... Interesting... I said "Africa, in the cradle of mankind" to quote the post. I never said "nobody knows Africa but me", I said "ignorant westerners". Nothing interested, living in Africa, I may know more than people living outside Africa.You may get a few things you see from your window but i fear that's about it. Which window ? Sure I have a house and a office with windows... that's about it, hehehe, I fear you are wrong, do you know me ? What's do you see from your windows, sakya ? Well, thank to you too but I have been to school. AI think if I live in Kenya, I live in Africa; why should stop saying this ? What should I say then Sure there are many countries in Africa but get your fact, Kenya has been for many years (since the 80s up to now) for a full ban of ivory trade and this has been implemented at African level, despite the fact that most other African countries were in favor of limited and controlled trade. So sure it is complex, so sharing my point of view is on point. It's may be the stupidest post of the year (I am waiting for my price) but since you didn't brought any interesting facts to this (except primary level geography), I'll give you second place. no offense, thank you ?? No pun fight, no need to get pop corn, I let you tell me what you see from your window in your continent... and just ignore you I guess. Anyway, for good cause or not, I am sure the artist had fun at PrintThemAll printing, a great one from what I have seen, and that printing is quality. But as said someone above, it is blunt, the background is bad and the elephant itself is like any elephant you get here in "Curio shop" along the route. Otherwise, I like Ron English, been following for years... very odd. As for giving to elephants, whatever you do is fine, but me I don't. Bye
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 21:08:53 GMT 1, but elephants never forget
but elephants never forget
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Ron English "African Elephant" print release, by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 21:21:42 GMT 1, 2/ Government spent billions of dollars to move elephants from one place to another. Wow is that true!? Billions? How are they moving them? Seriously though I don't know the facts but would be nice if the proceeds of the print went to some good cause. Hehe, an hyperbole, sorry... It varies greatly depending of countries, but in case of Kenya, they spent a lot. 2-3 millions of dollars a year... they move them by truck. This said, poaching is a big problem now, and population is low but still stable. And Kenya spend a lot now fighting poaching, millions too... That's governmental expenses, then you have all the big private reserves-trustees. They also spend quite a lot in elephant conservation and fighting poaching.
There was a major conference in London about protection of widlife and especially trade recently and more money is being now injected to assist countries to try to block the ivory trade. But then, without a full participation of Asian countries and stronger institutions in African countries, the killing will continue.
Cost related, at the end, it adds up... but far from stupidest billions.
*I didn't say Africa, yeah
2/ Government spent billions of dollars to move elephants from one place to another. Wow is that true!? Billions? How are they moving them? Seriously though I don't know the facts but would be nice if the proceeds of the print went to some good cause. Hehe, an hyperbole, sorry... It varies greatly depending of countries, but in case of Kenya, they spent a lot. 2-3 millions of dollars a year... they move them by truck. This said, poaching is a big problem now, and population is low but still stable. And Kenya spend a lot now fighting poaching, millions too... That's governmental expenses, then you have all the big private reserves-trustees. They also spend quite a lot in elephant conservation and fighting poaching. There was a major conference in London about protection of widlife and especially trade recently and more money is being now injected to assist countries to try to block the ivory trade. But then, without a full participation of Asian countries and stronger institutions in African countries, the killing will continue. Cost related, at the end, it adds up... but far from stupidest billions. *I didn't say Africa, yeah
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