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Nothing for sale, by Bamboo Charcoal on Sept 27, 2015 23:53:28 GMT 1, Nothing for sale until I contribute and participate more to this forum.
Nothing for sale until I contribute and participate more to this forum.
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dreadnatty
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Nothing for sale, by dreadnatty on Sept 29, 2015 1:17:08 GMT 1, Sorry to step on a FS thread but I always find it a pity...and slightly worrying when people only use this as a selling platform.
We even changed the rules because of it and on the whole, everyone respects them.
Some have set-out to try and by-pass or cheat by making random posts and as soon as they cross that threshold post 51 is another sale
Now, if the other 50 posts were even mildly interesting and were contributing to the community then you'd easily establish they had some credibility and were endeavouring to become part of the community, and more importantly could call on good references
If they just post rubbish till post 51, I'd wonder who I was dealing with. Just my 2 cents.
Sorry to step on a FS thread but I always find it a pity...and slightly worrying when people only use this as a selling platform.
We even changed the rules because of it and on the whole, everyone respects them.
Some have set-out to try and by-pass or cheat by making random posts and as soon as they cross that threshold post 51 is another sale
Now, if the other 50 posts were even mildly interesting and were contributing to the community then you'd easily establish they had some credibility and were endeavouring to become part of the community, and more importantly could call on good references
If they just post rubbish till post 51, I'd wonder who I was dealing with. Just my 2 cents.
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Nothing for sale, by Bamboo Charcoal on Sept 29, 2015 1:31:31 GMT 1, Sorry, my last 50 post was not of quality.
Sorry, my last 50 post was not of quality.
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11
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Nothing for sale, by 11 on Sept 29, 2015 1:39:36 GMT 1, I see sales until the rules changed, random and irrelevant sentences until you could raise a sales thread again. 51st post, another sales thread
I agree with dreadnatty. It isn't difficult to contribute and participate and is actually enjoyable so I find it disrespectful when people think they can use this place as a fee free eBay and nothing more
I see sales until the rules changed, random and irrelevant sentences until you could raise a sales thread again. 51st post, another sales thread I agree with dreadnatty. It isn't difficult to contribute and participate and is actually enjoyable so I find it disrespectful when people think they can use this place as a fee free eBay and nothing more
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BKBOI
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Nothing for sale, by BKBOI on Sept 29, 2015 2:53:12 GMT 1, selling the Kaws YSKIK already?
selling the Kaws YSKIK already?
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Nothing for sale, by Bamboo Charcoal on Sept 29, 2015 5:32:55 GMT 1, Yes, to fund an original.
Yes, to fund an original.
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mla
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Nothing for sale, by mla on Sept 29, 2015 15:31:26 GMT 1, While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not sure why this particular poster was singled out?
While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not sure why this particular poster was singled out?
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Wilson
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Nothing for sale, by Wilson on Sept 29, 2015 16:05:24 GMT 1, ... although I think his attitude to being rumbled speaks volumes!
... although I think his attitude to being rumbled speaks volumes!
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Nothing for sale, by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 16:07:39 GMT 1, We could always ban GLWTS posts
We could always ban GLWTS posts
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11
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Nothing for sale, by 11 on Sept 29, 2015 16:25:29 GMT 1, While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not sure why this particular poster was singled out?
Whilst the immediate changes were positively embraced we have a small group of newbies coming over thinking they can ignore the 'in the spirit of the forum' bit....but we're getting there slowly
An indefinite sales ban is a serious consideration - and if people think someone is trying to bypass the rules, if anyone flags it we will assess and do something about it when appropriate
Having positive comments about a members reputation is a good thing (IMO) so saying that you don't know the seller and they haven't contributed to the forum is just as valid and why it is the n their best interests to be a member of the community first
We have to work together to make people realise that whilst we've addressed the issues of trolls we can all still express our disapproval if people continue to treat this place like a free eBay. And their sales will be given the same level of respect and consideration as they give us
While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not sure why this particular poster was singled out? Whilst the immediate changes were positively embraced we have a small group of newbies coming over thinking they can ignore the 'in the spirit of the forum' bit....but we're getting there slowly An indefinite sales ban is a serious consideration - and if people think someone is trying to bypass the rules, if anyone flags it we will assess and do something about it when appropriate Having positive comments about a members reputation is a good thing (IMO) so saying that you don't know the seller and they haven't contributed to the forum is just as valid and why it is the n their best interests to be a member of the community first We have to work together to make people realise that whilst we've addressed the issues of trolls we can all still express our disapproval if people continue to treat this place like a free eBay. And their sales will be given the same level of respect and consideration as they give us
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mla
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Nothing for sale, by mla on Sept 29, 2015 16:40:37 GMT 1, Like I said, I don't disagree with the actions taken, I just think it should be consistently applied. For example, I see another thread on the front page, that despite nudges to participate elsewhere does not have a single post outside of the FS/WTB forums, with one exception to enter a free giveaway, yet that sale thread just keeps on trucking with no interruption.
Like I said, I don't disagree with the actions taken, I just think it should be consistently applied. For example, I see another thread on the front page, that despite nudges to participate elsewhere does not have a single post outside of the FS/WTB forums, with one exception to enter a free giveaway, yet that sale thread just keeps on trucking with no interruption.
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Nothing for sale, by 11 on Sept 29, 2015 17:00:07 GMT 1, Help me out mla - I can't read every sales thread....but if people are pissed at people doing exactly that then flag it to any one of us and we will have a look - PM is fine.
As said, its a sudden spate of people desperate to sell shit so they think they can just ignore and disrespect the forum and will still get a way with it, we've politely been saying we disrupt sales threads and apply sales bans and I guess we're now at the point where we are ready to take action.
But we do also rely on you all to work with us too
Help me out mla - I can't read every sales thread....but if people are pissed at people doing exactly that then flag it to any one of us and we will have a look - PM is fine. As said, its a sudden spate of people desperate to sell shit so they think they can just ignore and disrespect the forum and will still get a way with it, we've politely been saying we disrupt sales threads and apply sales bans and I guess we're now at the point where we are ready to take action. But we do also rely on you all to work with us too
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South Bound
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Nothing for sale, by South Bound on Sept 30, 2015 1:22:22 GMT 1, I get the whole concept behind the rules for people posting their "For Sale" thread. But if we are gonna bust some guy's chops about posting a "For Sale" thread on his 51st post, then something has to be done about the "For Sale" threads that keep going to the top of the board with each new post. There is one thread near the top right now that was originally started on July 20th and dude keeps adding stuff and bumping essentially turning this forum into his own personal store. To me that is more annoying and detrimental to this forum then a newbie posting a "For Sale" thread.
I get the whole concept behind the rules for people posting their "For Sale" thread. But if we are gonna bust some guy's chops about posting a "For Sale" thread on his 51st post, then something has to be done about the "For Sale" threads that keep going to the top of the board with each new post. There is one thread near the top right now that was originally started on July 20th and dude keeps adding stuff and bumping essentially turning this forum into his own personal store. To me that is more annoying and detrimental to this forum then a newbie posting a "For Sale" thread.
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dreadnatty
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Nothing for sale, by dreadnatty on Sept 30, 2015 2:14:21 GMT 1, I get the whole concept behind the rules for people posting their "For Sale" thread. But if we are gonna bust some guy's chops about posting a "For Sale" thread on his 51st post, then something has to be done about the "For Sale" threads that keep going to the top of the board with each new post. There is one thread near the top right now that was originally started on July 20th and dude keeps adding stuff and bumping essentially turning this forum into his own personal store. To me that is more annoying and detrimental to this forum then a newbie posting a "For Sale" thread. What thread are you talking about?
I get the whole concept behind the rules for people posting their "For Sale" thread. But if we are gonna bust some guy's chops about posting a "For Sale" thread on his 51st post, then something has to be done about the "For Sale" threads that keep going to the top of the board with each new post. There is one thread near the top right now that was originally started on July 20th and dude keeps adding stuff and bumping essentially turning this forum into his own personal store. To me that is more annoying and detrimental to this forum then a newbie posting a "For Sale" thread. What thread are you talking about?
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South Bound
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Nothing for sale, by South Bound on Sept 30, 2015 2:27:35 GMT 1, I get the whole concept behind the rules for people posting their "For Sale" thread. But if we are gonna bust some guy's chops about posting a "For Sale" thread on his 51st post, then something has to be done about the "For Sale" threads that keep going to the top of the board with each new post. There is one thread near the top right now that was originally started on July 20th and dude keeps adding stuff and bumping essentially turning this forum into his own personal store. To me that is more annoying and detrimental to this forum then a newbie posting a "For Sale" thread. What thread are you talking about? pm'ing you
I get the whole concept behind the rules for people posting their "For Sale" thread. But if we are gonna bust some guy's chops about posting a "For Sale" thread on his 51st post, then something has to be done about the "For Sale" threads that keep going to the top of the board with each new post. There is one thread near the top right now that was originally started on July 20th and dude keeps adding stuff and bumping essentially turning this forum into his own personal store. To me that is more annoying and detrimental to this forum then a newbie posting a "For Sale" thread. What thread are you talking about? pm'ing you
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Nothing for sale, by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 2:40:38 GMT 1, Ssssssssssssssssss
Ssssssssssssssssss
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d.r. perseus
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Nothing for sale, by d.r. perseus on Sept 30, 2015 9:11:46 GMT 1, Im just glad the rules for buying and or the sellers are more willing to deal with us posters that are newer. I think I bought my first piece off a seller here when I had less than ten and I am not a big contributor post wise. I guess money talks?
Im just glad the rules for buying and or the sellers are more willing to deal with us posters that are newer. I think I bought my first piece off a seller here when I had less than ten and I am not a big contributor post wise. I guess money talks?
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Nothing for sale, by peted77 on Sept 30, 2015 10:11:58 GMT 1, I have to agree with ifightfortheusers I may not have many posts, but I take a lot of pleasure from the site and reading various posts despite not necessarily replying to them - usually because the thread has moved on! I have a handful of purchases under my belt, and I'd like to think that the sellers would recommend me as a good buyer. Not sure a one rule for all really works, but then it's not my site. Either way - still enjoying it and would rather see regular new stuff on the for sale board than none at all.
I have to agree with ifightfortheusers I may not have many posts, but I take a lot of pleasure from the site and reading various posts despite not necessarily replying to them - usually because the thread has moved on! I have a handful of purchases under my belt, and I'd like to think that the sellers would recommend me as a good buyer. Not sure a one rule for all really works, but then it's not my site. Either way - still enjoying it and would rather see regular new stuff on the for sale board than none at all.
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Wilson
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Nothing for sale, by Wilson on Sept 30, 2015 10:16:50 GMT 1, Im just glad the rules for buying and or the sellers are more willing to deal with us posters that are newer. I think I bought my first piece off a seller here when I had less than ten and I am not a big contributor post wise. I guess money talks?
I'm sure that the seller you bought off had a good history of participation on here which gave you confidence to buy. It would be ridiculous to suggest that respected users couldn't sell to someone who is new. Suggesting the rule is money orientated is strange.
Im just glad the rules for buying and or the sellers are more willing to deal with us posters that are newer. I think I bought my first piece off a seller here when I had less than ten and I am not a big contributor post wise. I guess money talks? I'm sure that the seller you bought off had a good history of participation on here which gave you confidence to buy. It would be ridiculous to suggest that respected users couldn't sell to someone who is new. Suggesting the rule is money orientated is strange.
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Wilson
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Nothing for sale, by Wilson on Sept 30, 2015 10:20:26 GMT 1, I have to agree with ifightfortheusers I may not have many posts, but I take a lot of pleasure from the site and reading various posts despite not necessarily replying to them - usually because the thread has moved on! I have a handful of purchases under my belt, and I'd like to think that the sellers would recommend me as a good buyer. Not sure a one rule for all really works, but then it's not my site. Either way - still enjoying it and would rather see regular new stuff on the for sale board than none at all.
I'd rather see no sales than pages of sales contributed by users on here concerned only with pecuniary motives.
I have to agree with ifightfortheusers I may not have many posts, but I take a lot of pleasure from the site and reading various posts despite not necessarily replying to them - usually because the thread has moved on! I have a handful of purchases under my belt, and I'd like to think that the sellers would recommend me as a good buyer. Not sure a one rule for all really works, but then it's not my site. Either way - still enjoying it and would rather see regular new stuff on the for sale board than none at all. I'd rather see no sales than pages of sales contributed by users on here concerned only with pecuniary motives.
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peted77
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Nothing for sale, by peted77 on Sept 30, 2015 10:25:57 GMT 1, Yeah, sure. But they seem so transparent to me anyway, and I'm new. Surely there's nothing wrong with a friendly well laid out and presented FS thread (see-I'm even starting to get the hang of the acronyms) from someone who's new? Agreed, this one was pretty blunt - but then (s)he's unlikely to get any respect reciprocated from the forum members.
Yeah, sure. But they seem so transparent to me anyway, and I'm new. Surely there's nothing wrong with a friendly well laid out and presented FS thread (see-I'm even starting to get the hang of the acronyms) from someone who's new? Agreed, this one was pretty blunt - but then (s)he's unlikely to get any respect reciprocated from the forum members.
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BKBOI
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Nothing for sale, by BKBOI on Sept 30, 2015 11:59:11 GMT 1, what about when it's an alt posting a sale thread? are they still bound by 50 post rule?
what about when it's an alt posting a sale thread? are they still bound by 50 post rule?
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basquiat1
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Nothing for sale, by basquiat1 on Sept 30, 2015 12:34:20 GMT 1, How about, then, if your talking about banning sales on a case by case basis if they get to 50 based on nonsense posts you also accept sales before on a case by cases before they reach 50. I bought and sold successfully on here then suddenly could not any longer. So someone with no references on here but say 74 posts could sell before me with 2-3 positive translations?
How about, then, if your talking about banning sales on a case by case basis if they get to 50 based on nonsense posts you also accept sales before on a case by cases before they reach 50. I bought and sold successfully on here then suddenly could not any longer. So someone with no references on here but say 74 posts could sell before me with 2-3 positive translations?
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11
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Nothing for sale, by 11 on Sept 30, 2015 12:58:47 GMT 1, The rules are very light, simple and just require some respect. No one is going to monitor every single sales thread and it isn't unreasonable to expect grown-adults to show due respect to the intention of the rules and to the spirit of the community in general.
If people make a point of cheating then they run the risk of losing privileges that go with being a valued member - I wrote a very polite note to a member asking them to refrain from the single word posts yet they totally ignored that and continued with their immature ways. Do I then let them carry on with selling or do I as a guardian make a point of saying the seller does not have the backing or confidence of the community so buyer beware.
Sadly it seems that those that are childish enough to post single word posts are the same that bleat on about being treated unfairly. if people gave the same respect and consideration they expect we wouldn't have to be stepping in
Quite simply, respect the forum, respect the rules and you will in turn garner the same respect in return - if people attract attention to themselves with these practices then they shouldn't be crying as they had fair warning about what would result from their behaviours.
The rules are very light, simple and just require some respect. No one is going to monitor every single sales thread and it isn't unreasonable to expect grown-adults to show due respect to the intention of the rules and to the spirit of the community in general.
If people make a point of cheating then they run the risk of losing privileges that go with being a valued member - I wrote a very polite note to a member asking them to refrain from the single word posts yet they totally ignored that and continued with their immature ways. Do I then let them carry on with selling or do I as a guardian make a point of saying the seller does not have the backing or confidence of the community so buyer beware.
Sadly it seems that those that are childish enough to post single word posts are the same that bleat on about being treated unfairly. if people gave the same respect and consideration they expect we wouldn't have to be stepping in
Quite simply, respect the forum, respect the rules and you will in turn garner the same respect in return - if people attract attention to themselves with these practices then they shouldn't be crying as they had fair warning about what would result from their behaviours.
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