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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Howard Johnson on Aug 24, 2018 21:21:33 GMT 1, Update: The surfboards are a reoccurring edition they will carry on for the foreseeable future. They made a handful of ones with a red/blue pattern last year, a handful of the green/orange ones this year, and next years design will be burgundy. The rep I spoke with didn't know the exact edition of each variant, but there are only a few left of this years models, but they sold quite a few to brick-and-mortar retailers who are reselling them for $100-300 over the original publisher price.
Update: The surfboards are a reoccurring edition they will carry on for the foreseeable future. They made a handful of ones with a red/blue pattern last year, a handful of the green/orange ones this year, and next years design will be burgundy. The rep I spoke with didn't know the exact edition of each variant, but there are only a few left of this years models, but they sold quite a few to brick-and-mortar retailers who are reselling them for $100-300 over the original publisher price.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by racket on Aug 24, 2018 22:13:19 GMT 1, I don't think artists release info or number commerical epheremal items such as some of these as they're open edition as you found out. Some of the more interesting items can be found on eBay from time to time, and are nice to frame-up (hand sprayed zines, screen printed/hand drawn envelope etc). A lot of things are released quietly and without fanfare, beyond this little community, as previously alluded to. I don't think those prints were the best, but at 250 for a signed/numbered McGee.. bargain
I don't think artists release info or number commerical epheremal items such as some of these as they're open edition as you found out. Some of the more interesting items can be found on eBay from time to time, and are nice to frame-up (hand sprayed zines, screen printed/hand drawn envelope etc). A lot of things are released quietly and without fanfare, beyond this little community, as previously alluded to. I don't think those prints were the best, but at 250 for a signed/numbered McGee.. bargain
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by moron on Aug 24, 2018 22:43:02 GMT 1, I personally believe you have the wrong peer group for McGee. IMO, his peer group includes Fairey and Kaws. To me, McGee/Kaws/Fairey are the three legends to emerge out of the 90's US street scene, which I find to be distinct from the celebrated scene of the 1980's. All three rose during the nineties and then branched out in different directions and taking different paths to their current status as absolute legends. Kaws famously became 'big in Japan', and a branding superstar before reemerging on the contemporary art scene full-force in 2008 with Gering & Lopez. Fairey continued his democratic approach, including his early use of the internet, spraying out art at all possible price points, from t-shirts to 1/1 canvas works, while developing some truly iconic images (including the Obama Hope, which to me remains the most important artwork of the 21st century so far). McGee went the route of gallery representation(Deitch showed him in NYC in 1999), museum installations, and big splashes like participating in the 2001 Venice Biennale. He received early support from collectors in the worldwide contemporary art scene, over and above the support he received regionally in San Francisco as one of the 'mission school'. He crossed the $100k auction barrier back in 2003 for a gorgeous bottle installation. As stated above, I think McGee falls in to a crack on a forum like this, along with someone like Phil Frost, because there are no real flippy times to be had and they were established before the advent of the forums. I disagree. I wouldn't categorise Mcgee anywhere near Fairey or Kaws.
He has more artistic talent than the other two for a start and more originality.
He comes across as a bridge between Pop art and op art and urban art. Haring and Jasper Johns come to mind and agree the simplicity is deceiving at first glance as it's easy to overlook the sophistication that goes into his art.
I imagine that people buy his art because they appreciate it. As opposed to thinking short term and buying whats fashionably flippable. The best collections have been built by people with a good eye who know what they like.
I personally believe you have the wrong peer group for McGee. IMO, his peer group includes Fairey and Kaws. To me, McGee/Kaws/Fairey are the three legends to emerge out of the 90's US street scene, which I find to be distinct from the celebrated scene of the 1980's. All three rose during the nineties and then branched out in different directions and taking different paths to their current status as absolute legends. Kaws famously became 'big in Japan', and a branding superstar before reemerging on the contemporary art scene full-force in 2008 with Gering & Lopez. Fairey continued his democratic approach, including his early use of the internet, spraying out art at all possible price points, from t-shirts to 1/1 canvas works, while developing some truly iconic images (including the Obama Hope, which to me remains the most important artwork of the 21st century so far). McGee went the route of gallery representation(Deitch showed him in NYC in 1999), museum installations, and big splashes like participating in the 2001 Venice Biennale. He received early support from collectors in the worldwide contemporary art scene, over and above the support he received regionally in San Francisco as one of the 'mission school'. He crossed the $100k auction barrier back in 2003 for a gorgeous bottle installation. As stated above, I think McGee falls in to a crack on a forum like this, along with someone like Phil Frost, because there are no real flippy times to be had and they were established before the advent of the forums. I disagree. I wouldn't categorise Mcgee anywhere near Fairey or Kaws. He has more artistic talent than the other two for a start and more originality. He comes across as a bridge between Pop art and op art and urban art. Haring and Jasper Johns come to mind and agree the simplicity is deceiving at first glance as it's easy to overlook the sophistication that goes into his art. I imagine that people buy his art because they appreciate it. As opposed to thinking short term and buying whats fashionably flippable. The best collections have been built by people with a good eye who know what they like.
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Howard Johnson
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Howard Johnson on Aug 24, 2018 22:58:58 GMT 1, I personally believe you have the wrong peer group for McGee. IMO, his peer group includes Fairey and Kaws. To me, McGee/Kaws/Fairey are the three legends to emerge out of the 90's US street scene, which I find to be distinct from the celebrated scene of the 1980's. All three rose during the nineties and then branched out in different directions and taking different paths to their current status as absolute legends. Kaws famously became 'big in Japan', and a branding superstar before reemerging on the contemporary art scene full-force in 2008 with Gering & Lopez. Fairey continued his democratic approach, including his early use of the internet, spraying out art at all possible price points, from t-shirts to 1/1 canvas works, while developing some truly iconic images (including the Obama Hope, which to me remains the most important artwork of the 21st century so far). McGee went the route of gallery representation(Deitch showed him in NYC in 1999), museum installations, and big splashes like participating in the 2001 Venice Biennale. He received early support from collectors in the worldwide contemporary art scene, over and above the support he received regionally in San Francisco as one of the 'mission school'. He crossed the $100k auction barrier back in 2003 for a gorgeous bottle installation. As stated above, I think McGee falls in to a crack on a forum like this, along with someone like Phil Frost, because there are no real flippy times to be had and they were established before the advent of the forums. I disagree. I wouldn't categorise Mcgee anywhere near Fairey or Kaws. He has more artistic talent than the other two for a start and more originality. He comes across as a bridge between Pop art and op art and urban art. Haring and Jasper Johns come to mind and agree the simplicity is deceiving at first glance as it's easy to overlook the sophistication that goes into his art. I imagine that people buy his art because they appreciate it. As opposed to thinking short term and buying whats fashionably flippable. The best collections have been built by people with a good eye who know what they like. Good points all around, but its hard to agree when it comes to Kaws. I mean its Kaws; beloved by all, and the subject of mass obsession in the both the media and public. Talent-wise, its all subjective, but I'm not sure McGee and Kaws are even close to the same ballpark. I mean there could be a ton of McGee enthusiasts that religiously collect his work, but the popularity and value wise, Kaws appears to be miles ahead. But then again, I didn't even know about McGee until recently so I'm clearly not a reputable source regarding this debate lol.
I personally believe you have the wrong peer group for McGee. IMO, his peer group includes Fairey and Kaws. To me, McGee/Kaws/Fairey are the three legends to emerge out of the 90's US street scene, which I find to be distinct from the celebrated scene of the 1980's. All three rose during the nineties and then branched out in different directions and taking different paths to their current status as absolute legends. Kaws famously became 'big in Japan', and a branding superstar before reemerging on the contemporary art scene full-force in 2008 with Gering & Lopez. Fairey continued his democratic approach, including his early use of the internet, spraying out art at all possible price points, from t-shirts to 1/1 canvas works, while developing some truly iconic images (including the Obama Hope, which to me remains the most important artwork of the 21st century so far). McGee went the route of gallery representation(Deitch showed him in NYC in 1999), museum installations, and big splashes like participating in the 2001 Venice Biennale. He received early support from collectors in the worldwide contemporary art scene, over and above the support he received regionally in San Francisco as one of the 'mission school'. He crossed the $100k auction barrier back in 2003 for a gorgeous bottle installation. As stated above, I think McGee falls in to a crack on a forum like this, along with someone like Phil Frost, because there are no real flippy times to be had and they were established before the advent of the forums. I disagree. I wouldn't categorise Mcgee anywhere near Fairey or Kaws. He has more artistic talent than the other two for a start and more originality. He comes across as a bridge between Pop art and op art and urban art. Haring and Jasper Johns come to mind and agree the simplicity is deceiving at first glance as it's easy to overlook the sophistication that goes into his art. I imagine that people buy his art because they appreciate it. As opposed to thinking short term and buying whats fashionably flippable. The best collections have been built by people with a good eye who know what they like. Good points all around, but its hard to agree when it comes to Kaws. I mean its Kaws; beloved by all, and the subject of mass obsession in the both the media and public. Talent-wise, its all subjective, but I'm not sure McGee and Kaws are even close to the same ballpark. I mean there could be a ton of McGee enthusiasts that religiously collect his work, but the popularity and value wise, Kaws appears to be miles ahead. But then again, I didn't even know about McGee until recently so I'm clearly not a reputable source regarding this debate lol.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by mmmike on Aug 25, 2018 6:25:05 GMT 1, Thank you all for the great comments! I particularly like the note about his work being "deceptive." I think I was being my typical art snob self, and unconsciously lumped him into the skate-art sector, who like Mark Gonzalez, may be incredibly talented but will always be known for their contributions to one particular sub-culture. Seems like McGee has comparable institutional backing to kaws, but not the widespread fanatic fanbase. (On another note, does anyone else find it odd that a number of street artists have made it to the museum scene, but the self-appointed leader, Banksy, has not?) Considering what y'all have said, it seems like $250 was a very reasonable price point for his prints. I do feel quite lucky to have found his work in time to nab a multiple! Does he always do stone lithographs, or are the new ones a different technique? Anyone seen them in the flesh? Hind-sight is so 20-20, I spent a fair amount on a bunch of ephemera to my a makeshift collage, aiming for something like the first picture below with a nice tray frame surrounding the entire collage, but now I'm thinking so attempting something like the second picture to work in the new print. Has anyone out there make a wall collage of his smaller works? If so, please share some pics. Thanks again! It is great that you are finding new artists that interest you. I'd suggest you worry less about categorizing the art and artist and just get to know each artist for who they are and their context.
I'm pretty obsessed with Barry McGee but even more so with Gonz. Sounds like you are writing him off even before you learn to spell his name
To me Gonz is fearless in everything he does. Gonz really seems to be able to produce art without filters like no one else.
Back to Twist. I don't haven't found any books of his that I love. There are a few that are ok
This one is ok but IMHO it tries to be to serious. www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee-Alex-Baker/dp/1935202855/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174063&sr=8-2&keywords=barry+mcgee&dpID=6107F3%252BiGnL&preST=_SY264_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
This one has some great pics www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee/dp/8862080964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174063&sr=8-1&keywords=barry+mcgee&dpID=51aRrGud8mL&preST=_SX198_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch
This one was a bit of a let down but I just love the cover www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee-Raphaela-Platow/dp/0962054585/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174259&sr=8-20&keywords=barry+mcgee
I'd second the recommendation to watch Beautiful Losers. The book is also great for pics. Again I wasn't blown away by the writing but the book is still worth picking up. One that I go back to frequently.
There are a number of interesting documentaries on YouTube as well.
I bet in the next few years there will be threads popping up like this on Gonz. That is if forums are still a thing in a few years.
Have fun
Thank you all for the great comments! I particularly like the note about his work being "deceptive." I think I was being my typical art snob self, and unconsciously lumped him into the skate-art sector, who like Mark Gonzalez, may be incredibly talented but will always be known for their contributions to one particular sub-culture. Seems like McGee has comparable institutional backing to kaws, but not the widespread fanatic fanbase. (On another note, does anyone else find it odd that a number of street artists have made it to the museum scene, but the self-appointed leader, Banksy, has not?) Considering what y'all have said, it seems like $250 was a very reasonable price point for his prints. I do feel quite lucky to have found his work in time to nab a multiple! Does he always do stone lithographs, or are the new ones a different technique? Anyone seen them in the flesh? Hind-sight is so 20-20, I spent a fair amount on a bunch of ephemera to my a makeshift collage, aiming for something like the first picture below with a nice tray frame surrounding the entire collage, but now I'm thinking so attempting something like the second picture to work in the new print. Has anyone out there make a wall collage of his smaller works? If so, please share some pics. Thanks again! It is great that you are finding new artists that interest you. I'd suggest you worry less about categorizing the art and artist and just get to know each artist for who they are and their context. I'm pretty obsessed with Barry McGee but even more so with Gonz. Sounds like you are writing him off even before you learn to spell his name To me Gonz is fearless in everything he does. Gonz really seems to be able to produce art without filters like no one else. Back to Twist. I don't haven't found any books of his that I love. There are a few that are ok This one is ok but IMHO it tries to be to serious. www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee-Alex-Baker/dp/1935202855/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174063&sr=8-2&keywords=barry+mcgee&dpID=6107F3%252BiGnL&preST=_SY264_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch This one has some great pics www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee/dp/8862080964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174063&sr=8-1&keywords=barry+mcgee&dpID=51aRrGud8mL&preST=_SX198_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch This one was a bit of a let down but I just love the cover www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee-Raphaela-Platow/dp/0962054585/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174259&sr=8-20&keywords=barry+mcgeeI'd second the recommendation to watch Beautiful Losers. The book is also great for pics. Again I wasn't blown away by the writing but the book is still worth picking up. One that I go back to frequently. There are a number of interesting documentaries on YouTube as well. I bet in the next few years there will be threads popping up like this on Gonz. That is if forums are still a thing in a few years. Have fun
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by mmmike on Aug 25, 2018 6:38:50 GMT 1, On the comparison of Twist to Kaws. Kaws can make big money for any museum or gallery who shows him. His trinkets sell in a big way. I think that is a big reason why he gets so much press and attention or maybe that is a chicken and egg thing?
Barry McGee is very different. In some ways I think he has more institutional recognition when you consider he doesn't offer the same marketability but still gets respect in many contexts. The bigger question is why does it matter? Who cares what the art elite think?
I've been a big Kaws fan for a long time. I really like his stuff but he doesn't effect me like Twist. I'm sure Kaws makes a lot more money but I'd say Twist is way more successful in his art and life. At least in my mind.
If you strip out the fans that are fans because they think it is cool to like the artist, think his stuff is cute or think there is money to be made then I suspect Barry McGee has a much larger and more loyal fan base.
On the comparison of Twist to Kaws. Kaws can make big money for any museum or gallery who shows him. His trinkets sell in a big way. I think that is a big reason why he gets so much press and attention or maybe that is a chicken and egg thing?
Barry McGee is very different. In some ways I think he has more institutional recognition when you consider he doesn't offer the same marketability but still gets respect in many contexts. The bigger question is why does it matter? Who cares what the art elite think?
I've been a big Kaws fan for a long time. I really like his stuff but he doesn't effect me like Twist. I'm sure Kaws makes a lot more money but I'd say Twist is way more successful in his art and life. At least in my mind.
If you strip out the fans that are fans because they think it is cool to like the artist, think his stuff is cute or think there is money to be made then I suspect Barry McGee has a much larger and more loyal fan base.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by jp on Aug 25, 2018 9:17:37 GMT 1, A huge McGee I spotted at art Basel in 2013. I must have stared for 5 minutes before taking the pic. I didn't bother to ask the price...
A huge McGee I spotted at art Basel in 2013. I must have stared for 5 minutes before taking the pic. I didn't bother to ask the price...
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Hairbland on Aug 25, 2018 10:45:14 GMT 1, Doesn't have to be about Barry versus Brian. Both are quite talented and there is room for both.
Doesn't have to be about Barry versus Brian. Both are quite talented and there is room for both.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 11:54:57 GMT 1, Doesn't have to be about Barry versus Brian. Both are quite talented and there is room for both.
Does anyone have details of the prints/images etc. Love Barry.
Doesn't have to be about Barry versus Brian. Both are quite talented and there is room for both. Does anyone have details of the prints/images etc. Love Barry.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 11:55:13 GMT 1, A huge McGee I spotted at art Basel in 2013. I must have stared for 5 minutes before taking the pic. I didn't bother to ask the price...
That is wonderful.
A huge McGee I spotted at art Basel in 2013. I must have stared for 5 minutes before taking the pic. I didn't bother to ask the price... That is wonderful.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Villain Dillon on Aug 25, 2018 15:57:05 GMT 1, Not to mention that if you go into the industrial areas of San Francisco right now you will spot a freshly painted Twist throw-up/burner. Along with Os Gemeos, I believe Barry still focusses on his roots and still keeps his name in the streets.
Not to mention that if you go into the industrial areas of San Francisco right now you will spot a freshly painted Twist throw-up/burner. Along with Os Gemeos, I believe Barry still focusses on his roots and still keeps his name in the streets.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Harveyn on Aug 25, 2018 19:20:21 GMT 1, Been a huge fan for years of Barry McGee. The 9 piece cluster I bought from Ratio3 many years back is still one of the favourites in my collection.
Been a huge fan for years of Barry McGee. The 9 piece cluster I bought from Ratio3 many years back is still one of the favourites in my collection.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by fonebone45 on Aug 26, 2018 7:55:05 GMT 1, I think to me Barry represents a certain time in street art history. Now that could be from watching/reading Beautiful Losers, but I think it's that connection that adds value and mystique to the work.
I think to me Barry represents a certain time in street art history. Now that could be from watching/reading Beautiful Losers, but I think it's that connection that adds value and mystique to the work.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by jimbofatz on Aug 26, 2018 14:14:49 GMT 1, Speaking of beautiful losers did anyone ever buy any prints from the show off an ebay seller with the username blackhawk1496? (this would have been 6 or 7 years ago).
feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=blackhawk1496&ftab=AllFeedback
Somehow this person ended up with a large quantity of this run and was selling them off for virtually nothing. As you can see the prices...did anyone else buy these or know the seller?
I bought out some of these prints and left them out in the rain.
I know Pettibon has nothing good to say about the people involved in this film. But you can't argue with the quality of the artists involved in the project. It has aged well in my eyes.
Speaking of beautiful losers did anyone ever buy any prints from the show off an ebay seller with the username blackhawk1496? (this would have been 6 or 7 years ago). feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=blackhawk1496&ftab=AllFeedbackSomehow this person ended up with a large quantity of this run and was selling them off for virtually nothing. As you can see the prices...did anyone else buy these or know the seller? I bought out some of these prints and left them out in the rain.
I know Pettibon has nothing good to say about the people involved in this film. But you can't argue with the quality of the artists involved in the project. It has aged well in my eyes.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by moron on Aug 26, 2018 21:46:39 GMT 1, I disagree. I wouldn't categorise Mcgee anywhere near Fairey or Kaws. He has more artistic talent than the other two for a start and more originality. He comes across as a bridge between Pop art and op art and urban art. Haring and Jasper Johns come to mind and agree the simplicity is deceiving at first glance as it's easy to overlook the sophistication that goes into his art. I imagine that people buy his art because they appreciate it. As opposed to thinking short term and buying whats fashionably flippable. The best collections have been built by people with a good eye who know what they like. Good points all around, but its hard to agree when it comes to Kaws. I mean its Kaws; beloved by all, and the subject of mass obsession in the both the media and public. Talent-wise, its all subjective, but I'm not sure McGee and Kaws are even close to the same ballpark. I mean there could be a ton of McGee enthusiasts that religiously collect his work, but the popularity and value wise, Kaws appears to be miles ahead. But then again, I didn't even know about McGee until recently so I'm clearly not a reputable source regarding this debate lol. kaws and his ilk remind me of the Chinese art bubble of a few years back where rich delaers created a fast rising market for Chinese artists that did plasticky cartoony art. Wealthy buyers have bought into kaws and i don't know how realistic his prices really are.
Mcgee to me is pure Americana the way that Jasper Johns was Americana for me. Americana and folk art that spans the past and the present. It shows in his style on his pottery and the way he combines text and patterns etc. I like it personally.
Carl Cashman does something similar and the style of art by McGee has been done before but it's good how each individual artist transforms it into their own style.
I think Carl will evolve in his own way is easily affordable to many.
Mcgee is expensive out of the reach of many.
I disagree. I wouldn't categorise Mcgee anywhere near Fairey or Kaws. He has more artistic talent than the other two for a start and more originality. He comes across as a bridge between Pop art and op art and urban art. Haring and Jasper Johns come to mind and agree the simplicity is deceiving at first glance as it's easy to overlook the sophistication that goes into his art. I imagine that people buy his art because they appreciate it. As opposed to thinking short term and buying whats fashionably flippable. The best collections have been built by people with a good eye who know what they like. Good points all around, but its hard to agree when it comes to Kaws. I mean its Kaws; beloved by all, and the subject of mass obsession in the both the media and public. Talent-wise, its all subjective, but I'm not sure McGee and Kaws are even close to the same ballpark. I mean there could be a ton of McGee enthusiasts that religiously collect his work, but the popularity and value wise, Kaws appears to be miles ahead. But then again, I didn't even know about McGee until recently so I'm clearly not a reputable source regarding this debate lol. kaws and his ilk remind me of the Chinese art bubble of a few years back where rich delaers created a fast rising market for Chinese artists that did plasticky cartoony art. Wealthy buyers have bought into kaws and i don't know how realistic his prices really are. Mcgee to me is pure Americana the way that Jasper Johns was Americana for me. Americana and folk art that spans the past and the present. It shows in his style on his pottery and the way he combines text and patterns etc. I like it personally. Carl Cashman does something similar and the style of art by McGee has been done before but it's good how each individual artist transforms it into their own style. I think Carl will evolve in his own way is easily affordable to many. Mcgee is expensive out of the reach of many.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by shy on Aug 27, 2018 2:53:56 GMT 1, personally I never got into McGee's work. I think it's dated...
personally I never got into McGee's work. I think it's dated...
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Hairbland on Aug 27, 2018 3:42:11 GMT 1, Good points all around, but its hard to agree when it comes to Kaws. I mean its Kaws; beloved by all, and the subject of mass obsession in the both the media and public. Talent-wise, its all subjective, but I'm not sure McGee and Kaws are even close to the same ballpark. I mean there could be a ton of McGee enthusiasts that religiously collect his work, but the popularity and value wise, Kaws appears to be miles ahead. But then again, I didn't even know about McGee until recently so I'm clearly not a reputable source regarding this debate lol.ย kaws and his ilk remind me of the Chinese art bubble of a few years back where rich delaers created a fast rising market for Chinese artists that did plasticky cartoony art.ย Wealthy buyers have bought into kaws and i don't know how realistic his prices really are. ย Mcgee to me is pure Americana the way that Jasper Johns was Americana for me. Americana and folk art that spans the past and the present. It shows in his style on his pottery and the way he combines text and patterns etc. I like it personally. ย Carl Cashman does something similar and the style of art by McGee has been done before but it's good how each individual artist transforms it into their own style.ย I think Carl will evolve in his own way is easily affordable to many. Mcgee is expensive out of the reach of many. [I don't think KAWS has anything to do with a bubble - numerous museum shows and frankly if you have his work it doesn't tire. Both are pillars of this scene. Knock Chevrier if you wish, the pillars are the pillars.
Good points all around, but its hard to agree when it comes to Kaws. I mean its Kaws; beloved by all, and the subject of mass obsession in the both the media and public. Talent-wise, its all subjective, but I'm not sure McGee and Kaws are even close to the same ballpark. I mean there could be a ton of McGee enthusiasts that religiously collect his work, but the popularity and value wise, Kaws appears to be miles ahead. But then again, I didn't even know about McGee until recently so I'm clearly not a reputable source regarding this debate lol.ย kaws and his ilk remind me of the Chinese art bubble of a few years back where rich delaers created a fast rising market for Chinese artists that did plasticky cartoony art.ย Wealthy buyers have bought into kaws and i don't know how realistic his prices really are. ย Mcgee to me is pure Americana the way that Jasper Johns was Americana for me. Americana and folk art that spans the past and the present. It shows in his style on his pottery and the way he combines text and patterns etc. I like it personally. ย Carl Cashman does something similar and the style of art by McGee has been done before but it's good how each individual artist transforms it into their own style.ย I think Carl will evolve in his own way is easily affordable to many. Mcgee is expensive out of the reach of many. [I don't think KAWS has anything to do with a bubble - numerous museum shows and frankly if you have his work it doesn't tire. Both are pillars of this scene. Knock Chevrier if you wish, the pillars are the pillars.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Hairbland on Aug 27, 2018 3:43:39 GMT 1, personally I never got into McGee's work. I think it's dated... Broken clocks are right twice a day, wrong much more often.
personally I never got into McGee's work. I think it's dated... Broken clocks are right twice a day, wrong much more often.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by South Bound on Aug 27, 2018 18:12:45 GMT 1, Great to see a real art conversation around here.
Iโm a Twist fanatic and collector for a long time now.
Iโve become well read on him BUT currently sick as a dog and donโt have the energy to elaborate on his history... maybe another time.
Letโs just say his importance to Street Art and the Current Art scene (At large) cannot be over-stated.
Great to see a real art conversation around here.
Iโm a Twist fanatic and collector for a long time now.
Iโve become well read on him BUT currently sick as a dog and donโt have the energy to elaborate on his history... maybe another time.
Letโs just say his importance to Street Art and the Current Art scene (At large) cannot be over-stated.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 20:10:53 GMT 1, Been a huge fan for years of Barry McGee. The 9 piece cluster I bought from Ratio3 many years back is still one of the favourites in my collection.
Now that is beautiful.
Been a huge fan for years of Barry McGee. The 9 piece cluster I bought from Ratio3 many years back is still one of the favourites in my collection. Now that is beautiful.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by moron on Aug 27, 2018 21:11:04 GMT 1, personally I never got into McGee's work. I think it's dated... Look at most urban art and you can see the same type of art done decades before in some cases and at least back to the eighties in many others. Banksy stencils, Blek and Fekner, other stuff goes back to Warhol and Basquiat, early Marvel and manga art, pop art, abstract expressionism, etc etc etc. It's all dated if looking at it in one way and it's not dated if looking at it another way.
I like McGees art because for me all of the elements work together to create a whole. Plus McGee comes across as an example to other artists in how to blend urban art and contemporary art with modernism and at the same time having that all american feel about it which springs up in small towns across America and feels safe. In other words, for me it's not pretentious. It's honest.
There are artists where one can not like their art but can appreciate what they do or appreciate their art.
There are also artists where one does not like and does not appreciate their art. Some artists mean nothing to me, their art and what they do, others make me feel good when looking at it.
personally I never got into McGee's work. I think it's dated... Look at most urban art and you can see the same type of art done decades before in some cases and at least back to the eighties in many others. Banksy stencils, Blek and Fekner, other stuff goes back to Warhol and Basquiat, early Marvel and manga art, pop art, abstract expressionism, etc etc etc. It's all dated if looking at it in one way and it's not dated if looking at it another way. I like McGees art because for me all of the elements work together to create a whole. Plus McGee comes across as an example to other artists in how to blend urban art and contemporary art with modernism and at the same time having that all american feel about it which springs up in small towns across America and feels safe. In other words, for me it's not pretentious. It's honest. There are artists where one can not like their art but can appreciate what they do or appreciate their art. There are also artists where one does not like and does not appreciate their art. Some artists mean nothing to me, their art and what they do, others make me feel good when looking at it.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by sal on Aug 27, 2018 21:25:48 GMT 1, If anyone is looking for Barryโs work but cant afford originals Id strongly suggest these editions - www.editioncopenhagen.com/634/barry_mcgee_original_prints_and_lithographs_for_sale
Also, current V1 show in Cooenhagen has bunch of smaller work and clusters of paper works which dont get up for sale that often.
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by fonebone45 on Aug 27, 2018 21:49:07 GMT 1, personally I never got into McGee's work. I think it's dated... Look at most urban art and you can see the same type of art done decades before in some cases and at least back to the eighties in many others. Banksy stencils, Blek and Fekner, other stuff goes back to Warhol and Basquiat, early Marvel and manga art, pop art, abstract expressionism, etc etc etc. It's all dated if looking at it in one way and it's not dated if looking at it another way. I like McGees art because for me all of the elements work together to create a whole. Plus McGee comes across as an example to other artists in how to blend urban art and contemporary art with modernism and at the same time having that all american feel about it which springs up in small towns across America and feels safe. In other words, for me it's not pretentious. It's honest. There are artists where one can not like their art but can appreciate what they do or appreciate their art. There are also artists where one does not like and does not appreciate their art. Some artists mean nothing to me, their art and what they do, others make me feel good when looking at it. Honest is a good description actually. Like you said as well I've always found it to be a good mix of graffiti world and traditional art world
personally I never got into McGee's work. I think it's dated... Look at most urban art and you can see the same type of art done decades before in some cases and at least back to the eighties in many others. Banksy stencils, Blek and Fekner, other stuff goes back to Warhol and Basquiat, early Marvel and manga art, pop art, abstract expressionism, etc etc etc. It's all dated if looking at it in one way and it's not dated if looking at it another way. I like McGees art because for me all of the elements work together to create a whole. Plus McGee comes across as an example to other artists in how to blend urban art and contemporary art with modernism and at the same time having that all american feel about it which springs up in small towns across America and feels safe. In other words, for me it's not pretentious. It's honest. There are artists where one can not like their art but can appreciate what they do or appreciate their art. There are also artists where one does not like and does not appreciate their art. Some artists mean nothing to me, their art and what they do, others make me feel good when looking at it. Honest is a good description actually. Like you said as well I've always found it to be a good mix of graffiti world and traditional art world
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by Howard Johnson on Aug 27, 2018 22:37:45 GMT 1, Thank you all for the great comments! I particularly like the note about his work being "deceptive." I think I was being my typical art snob self, and unconsciously lumped him into the skate-art sector, who like Mark Gonzalez, may be incredibly talented but will always be known for their contributions to one particular sub-culture. Seems like McGee has comparable institutional backing to kaws, but not the widespread fanatic fanbase. (On another note, does anyone else find it odd that a number of street artists have made it to the museum scene, but the self-appointed leader, Banksy, has not?) Considering what y'all have said, it seems like $250 was a very reasonable price point for his prints. I do feel quite lucky to have found his work in time to nab a multiple! Does he always do stone lithographs, or are the new ones a different technique? Anyone seen them in the flesh? Hind-sight is so 20-20, I spent a fair amount on a bunch of ephemera to my a makeshift collage, aiming for something like the first picture below with a nice tray frame surrounding the entire collage, but now I'm thinking so attempting something like the second picture to work in the new print. Has anyone out there make a wall collage of his smaller works? If so, please share some pics. Thanks again! It is great that you are finding new artists that interest you. I'd suggest you worry less about categorizing the art and artist and just get to know each artist for who they are and their context.ย I'm pretty obsessed with Barry McGee but even more so with Gonz. Sounds like you are writing him off even before you learn to spell his name To me Gonz is fearless in everything he does. Gonz really seems to be able to produce art without filters like no one else.ย Back to Twist. I don't haven't found any books of his that I love. There are a few that are okย This one is ok but IMHO it tries to be to serious.ย www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee-Alex-Baker/dp/1935202855/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174063&sr=8-2&keywords=barry+mcgee&dpID=6107F3%252BiGnL&preST=_SY264_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch This one has some great pics www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee/dp/8862080964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174063&sr=8-1&keywords=barry+mcgee&dpID=51aRrGud8mL&preST=_SX198_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch This one was a bit of a let down but I just love the cover www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee-Raphaela-Platow/dp/0962054585/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174259&sr=8-20&keywords=barry+mcgeeI'd second the recommendation to watch Beautiful Losers. The book is also great for pics. Again I wasn't blown away by the writing but the book is still worth picking up. One that I go back to frequently.ย There are a number of interesting documentaries on YouTube as well.ย I bet in the next few years there will be threads popping up like this on Gonz. That is if forums are still a thing in a few years.ย Have fun
Lol very fair comments all around. I actually really like the skateboard artists I grew up with, but it's more of me believeing that they were not valued on the larger art market then a comment about their talent
It seems like everyone tries to tow the line between what they like and investment value, and give empty excuses about the brilliance of whatever artist they want to make a buck off of. I'm very transparent: I collect for investment. My opinion is that there is SO much damn art out there that you will always be able to find works that you BOTH love and are a good investment. This is certainly a very specific attitude about collecting that I don't push on others, it's just the boundaries set for myself. I have poor impulse control, so I need rules lol. So finding McGee was a cool experience as it hit both of my prerequisites for collecting and his work is rooted in a genre that doesn't get the acclaim it deserves.
Anyways, thank you all for the thoughtful comments and suggestions. If anyone has attempted a picture collage like his exhibitions please do not hesitate to post some pics!
Thank you all for the great comments! I particularly like the note about his work being "deceptive." I think I was being my typical art snob self, and unconsciously lumped him into the skate-art sector, who like Mark Gonzalez, may be incredibly talented but will always be known for their contributions to one particular sub-culture. Seems like McGee has comparable institutional backing to kaws, but not the widespread fanatic fanbase. (On another note, does anyone else find it odd that a number of street artists have made it to the museum scene, but the self-appointed leader, Banksy, has not?) Considering what y'all have said, it seems like $250 was a very reasonable price point for his prints. I do feel quite lucky to have found his work in time to nab a multiple! Does he always do stone lithographs, or are the new ones a different technique? Anyone seen them in the flesh? Hind-sight is so 20-20, I spent a fair amount on a bunch of ephemera to my a makeshift collage, aiming for something like the first picture below with a nice tray frame surrounding the entire collage, but now I'm thinking so attempting something like the second picture to work in the new print. Has anyone out there make a wall collage of his smaller works? If so, please share some pics. Thanks again! It is great that you are finding new artists that interest you. I'd suggest you worry less about categorizing the art and artist and just get to know each artist for who they are and their context.ย I'm pretty obsessed with Barry McGee but even more so with Gonz. Sounds like you are writing him off even before you learn to spell his name To me Gonz is fearless in everything he does. Gonz really seems to be able to produce art without filters like no one else.ย Back to Twist. I don't haven't found any books of his that I love. There are a few that are okย This one is ok but IMHO it tries to be to serious.ย www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee-Alex-Baker/dp/1935202855/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174063&sr=8-2&keywords=barry+mcgee&dpID=6107F3%252BiGnL&preST=_SY264_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch This one has some great pics www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee/dp/8862080964/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174063&sr=8-1&keywords=barry+mcgee&dpID=51aRrGud8mL&preST=_SX198_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch This one was a bit of a let down but I just love the cover www.amazon.ca/Barry-McGee-Raphaela-Platow/dp/0962054585/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1535174259&sr=8-20&keywords=barry+mcgeeI'd second the recommendation to watch Beautiful Losers. The book is also great for pics. Again I wasn't blown away by the writing but the book is still worth picking up. One that I go back to frequently.ย There are a number of interesting documentaries on YouTube as well.ย I bet in the next few years there will be threads popping up like this on Gonz. That is if forums are still a thing in a few years.ย Have fun Lol very fair comments all around. I actually really like the skateboard artists I grew up with, but it's more of me believeing that they were not valued on the larger art market then a comment about their talent It seems like everyone tries to tow the line between what they like and investment value, and give empty excuses about the brilliance of whatever artist they want to make a buck off of. I'm very transparent: I collect for investment. My opinion is that there is SO much damn art out there that you will always be able to find works that you BOTH love and are a good investment. This is certainly a very specific attitude about collecting that I don't push on others, it's just the boundaries set for myself. I have poor impulse control, so I need rules lol. So finding McGee was a cool experience as it hit both of my prerequisites for collecting and his work is rooted in a genre that doesn't get the acclaim it deserves. Anyways, thank you all for the thoughtful comments and suggestions. If anyone has attempted a picture collage like his exhibitions please do not hesitate to post some pics!
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by racket on Aug 28, 2018 0:10:41 GMT 1, If you're new to him, 32-37mins is a brief synopsis
If you're new to him, 32-37mins is a brief synopsis
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by ad2lb on Aug 28, 2018 9:38:31 GMT 1, Zine from autobody and one of the signed print Thanks
Zine from autobody and one of the signed print Thanks
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by slipry on Aug 28, 2018 12:43:49 GMT 1, Zine from autobody and one of the signed print Thanks
Zine from autobody and one of the signed print Thanks
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by ad2lb on Aug 28, 2018 13:34:49 GMT 1, Zine from autobody and one of the signed print Thanks
Inquiry a week ago via email without reply and us shipping only on their website
Zine from autobody and one of the signed print Thanks
Inquiry a week ago via email without reply and us shipping only on their website
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by mmmike on Aug 29, 2018 3:09:54 GMT 1, If you are looking for collectables I would second the recommendation of the prints at
www.editioncopenhagen.com/634/barry_mcgee_original_prints_and_lithographs_for_sale
I would also suggest considering the Tokion figures. In big part because you can get his and Margaret Kilgallen's for less than $2k. I'm not sure of another way to get a numbered piece from her made before she passed never mind a very cool 3D piece for so cheap (see ebay, not my listings).
If you are looking for collectables I would second the recommendation of the prints at www.editioncopenhagen.com/634/barry_mcgee_original_prints_and_lithographs_for_saleI would also suggest considering the Tokion figures. In big part because you can get his and Margaret Kilgallen's for less than $2k. I'm not sure of another way to get a numbered piece from her made before she passed never mind a very cool 3D piece for so cheap (see ebay, not my listings).
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Barry McGee ๐บ๐ธ Mission School Art Movement, by diarmid on Aug 29, 2018 14:06:04 GMT 1, Hello All,
I have few barry mcgee london show folded posters unsigned from 2011. DM if could consider trading your kate moss banksy postcards or other banksy items or make a offer.
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