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Donald Trump, by qest on Nov 9, 2018 14:00:39 GMT 1, isn't there an amendment, right to arms for all citizens. Might be quite an old amendment, but it seems to be the cornerstone U.S. amendments can be...amended, can't they? Yes or redefined by the courts at the behest of special interest groups, and made into a cornerstone about 200 years after adoption, as is the case with the Second.
isn't there an amendment, right to arms for all citizens. Might be quite an old amendment, but it seems to be the cornerstone U.S. amendments can be...amended, can't they? Yes or redefined by the courts at the behest of special interest groups, and made into a cornerstone about 200 years after adoption, as is the case with the Second.
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Donald Trump, by skAcid on Nov 9, 2018 14:22:56 GMT 1, Thoughts and prayers don't change anything unfortunately. That's what bugs me about Trump (one of the things anyway). Each time there is some sort of massacre in a school or elsewhere, Trump comes along and offers his "thoughts and prayers" for the bereaved. How about not praying and actually doing something constructive instead. isn't there an amendment, right to arms for all citizens. Might be quite an old amendment, but it seems to be the cornerstone Yeah so old and around the time we were still dunking witches!
Thoughts and prayers don't change anything unfortunately. That's what bugs me about Trump (one of the things anyway). Each time there is some sort of massacre in a school or elsewhere, Trump comes along and offers his "thoughts and prayers" for the bereaved. How about not praying and actually doing something constructive instead. isn't there an amendment, right to arms for all citizens. Might be quite an old amendment, but it seems to be the cornerstone Yeah so old and around the time we were still dunking witches!
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Donald Trump, by Leo Boyd on Nov 9, 2018 15:21:31 GMT 1, We're not even allowed to dunk witches no more Its PC gone mad!
We're not even allowed to dunk witches no more Its PC gone mad!
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Donald Trump, by doyle on Nov 9, 2018 15:36:31 GMT 1, This woman's son survived the Las Vegas shootings last year, but died in yesterday's shooting. She doesnt want anymore prayers, she wants Action. No more Guns!
This woman's son survived the Las Vegas shootings last year, but died in yesterday's shooting. She doesnt want anymore prayers, she wants Action. No more Guns!
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Donald Trump, by Pysgod on Nov 9, 2018 15:56:53 GMT 1, Guns don't kill people, Idiots do
Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful.
Guns don't kill people, Idiots do
Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful.
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Donald Trump, by Coach on Nov 9, 2018 16:12:46 GMT 1, Guns don't kill people, Idiots do Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful.
That’s idiotic.
Guns don't kill people, Idiots do Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful. That’s idiotic.
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Donald Trump, by d.r. perseus on Nov 9, 2018 16:18:56 GMT 1, Guns don't kill people, Idiots do Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful. That’s idiotic.
But a common bumper sticker and talking point designed to end conversation
Guns don't kill people, Idiots do Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful. That’s idiotic. But a common bumper sticker and talking point designed to end conversation
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Donald Trump, by Pysgod on Nov 9, 2018 16:58:40 GMT 1, Guns don't kill people, Idiots do Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful. That’s idiotic. Do you know how many thousands of books there are dedicated to Guns and their history, design engineering etc ? guns are everywhere but only the idiots pull the trigger on innocent people
Guns don't kill people, Idiots do Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful. That’s idiotic. Do you know how many thousands of books there are dedicated to Guns and their history, design engineering etc ? guns are everywhere but only the idiots pull the trigger on innocent people
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Donald Trump, by d.r. perseus on Nov 9, 2018 17:09:14 GMT 1, Coming with the slogans! Well done!
Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!!
Coming with the slogans! Well done!
Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!!
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 17:11:30 GMT 1, Stop bringing up what worked in other countries
That's TOTALLY different. Different culture, etc. They never had our crime issues even before guns were prolifically used. Can't compare Australia to the united states, that's ludicrous. Just based off population, culture, population density, etc. But especially off number of guns, and percentage of population that owned one prior to the ban.. it's not even close
You do realize that the US alone owns nearly half of the ENTIRE worlds guns? Just under 400 million (possibly more) where the entire world has roughly 850 million guns.
No other country can be compared
1 in 3 Americans owns a gun.. that varies from 20-40% depending on the survey.. but that includes the ENTIRE population. Meaning kids, elderly, etc.. meaning likely more than half of regular age adults own one...
Australia had 650,000 guns in the entire country prior to the partial ban...
Perhaps you should read this, or any other stocky article explaining cultural differences in gun ownership...
Even speak with ANY Foreigner. I don't know but maybe 2 or 3 people outside of the US that own guns of the 100s that I Converse with regularly. fact is most cultures fear guns vs Americans embracing for hundreds of years now.
Let's stop comparing apples and oranges. At minimum choose a country with similar crime and culture
www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/opinion/australias-gun-laws-america.html
Stop bringing up what worked in other countries That's TOTALLY different. Different culture, etc. They never had our crime issues even before guns were prolifically used. Can't compare Australia to the united states, that's ludicrous. Just based off population, culture, population density, etc. But especially off number of guns, and percentage of population that owned one prior to the ban.. it's not even close You do realize that the US alone owns nearly half of the ENTIRE worlds guns? Just under 400 million (possibly more) where the entire world has roughly 850 million guns. No other country can be compared 1 in 3 Americans owns a gun.. that varies from 20-40% depending on the survey.. but that includes the ENTIRE population. Meaning kids, elderly, etc.. meaning likely more than half of regular age adults own one... Australia had 650,000 guns in the entire country prior to the partial ban... Perhaps you should read this, or any other stocky article explaining cultural differences in gun ownership... Even speak with ANY Foreigner. I don't know but maybe 2 or 3 people outside of the US that own guns of the 100s that I Converse with regularly. fact is most cultures fear guns vs Americans embracing for hundreds of years now. Let's stop comparing apples and oranges. At minimum choose a country with similar crime and culture www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/opinion/australias-gun-laws-america.html
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 17:13:15 GMT 1, Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!!
The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc
Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!! The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc
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Donald Trump, by Happy Shopper on Nov 9, 2018 17:15:36 GMT 1, Stop bringing up what worked in other countries That's TOTALLY different. Different culture, etc. They never had our crime issues even before guns were prolifically used. Can't compare Australia to the united states, that's ludicrous. Just based off population, culture, population density, etc. But especially off number of guns, and percentage of population that owned one prior to the ban.. it's not even close You do realize that the US alone owns nearly half of the ENTIRE worlds guns? Just under 400 million (possibly more) where the entire world has roughly 850 million guns. No other country can be compared So, what's the solution? Not to even try to restrict access to guns, or even just certain types of guns?
Stop bringing up what worked in other countries That's TOTALLY different. Different culture, etc. They never had our crime issues even before guns were prolifically used. Can't compare Australia to the united states, that's ludicrous. Just based off population, culture, population density, etc. But especially off number of guns, and percentage of population that owned one prior to the ban.. it's not even close You do realize that the US alone owns nearly half of the ENTIRE worlds guns? Just under 400 million (possibly more) where the entire world has roughly 850 million guns. No other country can be compared So, what's the solution? Not to even try to restrict access to guns, or even just certain types of guns?
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Donald Trump, by qest on Nov 9, 2018 17:24:54 GMT 1, Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!! The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc Your face is red from all the Kool-Aid you've been drinking
Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!! The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc Your face is red from all the Kool-Aid you've been drinking
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 9, 2018 17:28:48 GMT 1, Do you know how many thousands of books there are dedicated to Guns and their history, design engineering etc ? guns are everywhere but only the idiots pull the trigger on innocent people
Suppose the kids who accidentally let them off on themselves, their siblings, their parents etc. are idiots too.
Do you know how many thousands of books there are dedicated to Guns and their history, design engineering etc ? guns are everywhere but only the idiots pull the trigger on innocent people Suppose the kids who accidentally let them off on themselves, their siblings, their parents etc. are idiots too.
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 9, 2018 17:34:02 GMT 1, Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!! The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc
The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew?
Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!! The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew?
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 17:35:55 GMT 1, We're not even allowed to dunk witches no more Its PC gone mad! I think our biggest mistake was deciding to come down out of the trees and walk on two legs.
We're not even allowed to dunk witches no more Its PC gone mad! I think our biggest mistake was deciding to come down out of the trees and walk on two legs.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 17:38:34 GMT 1, Guns don't kill people, Idiots do Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful. and yet it is far easier for idiots to kill people if they have guns than if they don't. This obvious fact seems to elude some people.
Guns don't kill people, Idiots do Guns are awesome, like works of art, some guns are beautiful. and yet it is far easier for idiots to kill people if they have guns than if they don't. This obvious fact seems to elude some people.
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d.r. perseus
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Donald Trump, by d.r. perseus on Nov 9, 2018 17:39:51 GMT 1, Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!! The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc
Ah the pitbull answer on some level. There are no bad dogs just bad owners. The majority of us grew up in the same culture and not all of us had great childhoods. There is a minority of a minority of people with mental health issues committing the majority of these acts. I do think a lot of what you mention speaks more to the inner city on some level though.
Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!! The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc Ah the pitbull answer on some level. There are no bad dogs just bad owners. The majority of us grew up in the same culture and not all of us had great childhoods. There is a minority of a minority of people with mental health issues committing the majority of these acts. I do think a lot of what you mention speaks more to the inner city on some level though.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 17:42:59 GMT 1, Stop bringing up what worked in other countries That's TOTALLY different. Different culture, etc. They never had our crime issues even before guns were prolifically used. Can't compare Australia to the united states, that's ludicrous. Just based off population, culture, population density, etc. But especially off number of guns, and percentage of population that owned one prior to the ban.. it's not even close You do realize that the US alone owns nearly half of the ENTIRE worlds guns? Just under 400 million (possibly more) where the entire world has roughly 850 million guns. No other country can be compared 1 in 3 Americans owns a gun.. that varies from 20-40% depending on the survey.. but that includes the ENTIRE population. Meaning kids, elderly, etc.. meaning likely more than half of regular age adults own one... Australia had 650,000 guns in the entire country prior to the partial ban... Perhaps you should read this, or any other stocky article explaining cultural differences in gun ownership... Even speak with ANY Foreigner. I don't know but maybe 2 or 3 people outside of the US that own guns of the 100s that I Converse with regularly. fact is most cultures fear guns vs Americans embracing for hundreds of years now. Let's stop comparing apples and oranges. At minimum choose a country with similar crime and culture www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/opinion/australias-gun-laws-america.html I don't know what you are trying to say here. Are you saying that as the USA is different to other countries, therefore it is perfectly ok to allow them to have as many guns as they wish, including automatic and semi-automatic rifles in the hands of anybody who wants one?
Stop bringing up what worked in other countries That's TOTALLY different. Different culture, etc. They never had our crime issues even before guns were prolifically used. Can't compare Australia to the united states, that's ludicrous. Just based off population, culture, population density, etc. But especially off number of guns, and percentage of population that owned one prior to the ban.. it's not even close You do realize that the US alone owns nearly half of the ENTIRE worlds guns? Just under 400 million (possibly more) where the entire world has roughly 850 million guns. No other country can be compared 1 in 3 Americans owns a gun.. that varies from 20-40% depending on the survey.. but that includes the ENTIRE population. Meaning kids, elderly, etc.. meaning likely more than half of regular age adults own one... Australia had 650,000 guns in the entire country prior to the partial ban... Perhaps you should read this, or any other stocky article explaining cultural differences in gun ownership... Even speak with ANY Foreigner. I don't know but maybe 2 or 3 people outside of the US that own guns of the 100s that I Converse with regularly. fact is most cultures fear guns vs Americans embracing for hundreds of years now. Let's stop comparing apples and oranges. At minimum choose a country with similar crime and culture www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/opinion/australias-gun-laws-america.htmlI don't know what you are trying to say here. Are you saying that as the USA is different to other countries, therefore it is perfectly ok to allow them to have as many guns as they wish, including automatic and semi-automatic rifles in the hands of anybody who wants one?
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Donald Trump, by d.r. perseus on Nov 9, 2018 17:45:05 GMT 1, Stop bringing up what worked in other countries That's TOTALLY different. Different culture, etc. They never had our crime issues even before guns were prolifically used. Can't compare Australia to the united states, that's ludicrous. Just based off population, culture, population density, etc. But especially off number of guns, and percentage of population that owned one prior to the ban.. it's not even close You do realize that the US alone owns nearly half of the ENTIRE worlds guns? Just under 400 million (possibly more) where the entire world has roughly 850 million guns. No other country can be compared So, what's the solution? Not to even try to restrict access to guns, or even just certain types of guns?
In this country we have the same permissive attitude to car accident deaths, but while we make cars safer and pass laws to decrease hazards, with regard to guns we just mumble freedom, something something about protection from tyrants and 2nd amendment. There is a slippery slope mindset with regard to gun laws while those at the same time acknowledge they don't have the right to bear ALL arms, only some.
I am pro guns, own them but access is crazy easy.
Stop bringing up what worked in other countries That's TOTALLY different. Different culture, etc. They never had our crime issues even before guns were prolifically used. Can't compare Australia to the united states, that's ludicrous. Just based off population, culture, population density, etc. But especially off number of guns, and percentage of population that owned one prior to the ban.. it's not even close You do realize that the US alone owns nearly half of the ENTIRE worlds guns? Just under 400 million (possibly more) where the entire world has roughly 850 million guns. No other country can be compared So, what's the solution? Not to even try to restrict access to guns, or even just certain types of guns? In this country we have the same permissive attitude to car accident deaths, but while we make cars safer and pass laws to decrease hazards, with regard to guns we just mumble freedom, something something about protection from tyrants and 2nd amendment. There is a slippery slope mindset with regard to gun laws while those at the same time acknowledge they don't have the right to bear ALL arms, only some. I am pro guns, own them but access is crazy easy.
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Donald Trump, by Pysgod on Nov 9, 2018 17:45:53 GMT 1, Do you know how many thousands of books there are dedicated to Guns and their history, design engineering etc ? guns are everywhere but only the idiots pull the trigger on innocent people Suppose the kids who accidentally let them off on themselves, their siblings, their parents etc. are idiots too. Suppose all you like
Do you know how many thousands of books there are dedicated to Guns and their history, design engineering etc ? guns are everywhere but only the idiots pull the trigger on innocent people Suppose the kids who accidentally let them off on themselves, their siblings, their parents etc. are idiots too. Suppose all you like
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 17:47:54 GMT 1, The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew?
you guys keep bringing up these other countries and statistics based upon the past.. in reality the rate of mass shootings was very low and tell somewhat recently which basically negates all of your data regarding other countries...
In fact, in America the 2000s had less mass shootings than in both the 90s, and 80s.. its in fact on a near down trend prior to 2010 and beyond.. and if you think social media isn't an issue, you're wrong
Bring up the uK all u want lol.. my small state alone has more guns than the entire UK, and has never had a mass shooting.... Also has legal open carry, legal concealed carry, no waiting period if registered, and no limits on ammo etc
Population vs mass shooting is a huge thing not being recognized.. daily gun violence is a huge issue.
But it all basically boils down to social media, culture, and issues within the family creating these individuals.
The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew? you guys keep bringing up these other countries and statistics based upon the past.. in reality the rate of mass shootings was very low and tell somewhat recently which basically negates all of your data regarding other countries... In fact, in America the 2000s had less mass shootings than in both the 90s, and 80s.. its in fact on a near down trend prior to 2010 and beyond.. and if you think social media isn't an issue, you're wrong Bring up the uK all u want lol.. my small state alone has more guns than the entire UK, and has never had a mass shooting.... Also has legal open carry, legal concealed carry, no waiting period if registered, and no limits on ammo etc Population vs mass shooting is a huge thing not being recognized.. daily gun violence is a huge issue. But it all basically boils down to social media, culture, and issues within the family creating these individuals.
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 9, 2018 17:49:24 GMT 1, Suppose the kids who accidentally let them off on themselves, their siblings, their parents etc. are idiots too. Suppose all you like
Solid contribution. Thanks.
Suppose the kids who accidentally let them off on themselves, their siblings, their parents etc. are idiots too. Suppose all you like Solid contribution. Thanks.
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Donald Trump, by Pysgod on Nov 9, 2018 17:52:24 GMT 1, The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew? But a person or three has been stabbed to death every day this month
The mental aspect, along with parenting, and cultural issues that basically make these shooters feel that they're going to be praised, are the main issues. A crazy man will kill regardless. It's happened throughout time. But we're creating crazy with medications, the disappearing of the American family, lack of education, Etc The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew? But a person or three has been stabbed to death every day this month
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 17:53:25 GMT 1, So, what's the solution? Not to even try to restrict access to guns, or even just certain types of guns? In this country we have the same permissive attitude to car accident deaths, but while we make cars safer and pass laws to decrease hazards, with regard to guns we just mumble freedom, something something about protection from tyrants and 2nd amendment. There is a slippery slope mindset with regard to gun laws while those at the same time acknowledge they don't have the right to bear ALL arms, only some. I am pro guns, own them but access is crazy easy.
Car accident deaths is an easier control by making manufacterers stepup, lowering speed limits, random check points, etc...
What we're all ignoring is there's nothing "cool" about a DUI (and I live where they're not even a felony shockingly)..
But to these kids and people sick enough to commit these crimes, they truly feel it's something people will cheer for... That's the most sickening, disturbing, ad troublesome part... Be it bombs, guns, poison, etc. These sickos truly feel they found a "family" to support them if they commit these crimes. It's very similar to Al queada etc in ways..
They're also proportionally not legal gun owners. All too often the parents, a relative, etc gave access.. those people need to face the same charges as accomplices Imho. It's your duty to safely store your weapons
So, what's the solution? Not to even try to restrict access to guns, or even just certain types of guns? In this country we have the same permissive attitude to car accident deaths, but while we make cars safer and pass laws to decrease hazards, with regard to guns we just mumble freedom, something something about protection from tyrants and 2nd amendment. There is a slippery slope mindset with regard to gun laws while those at the same time acknowledge they don't have the right to bear ALL arms, only some. I am pro guns, own them but access is crazy easy. Car accident deaths is an easier control by making manufacterers stepup, lowering speed limits, random check points, etc... What we're all ignoring is there's nothing "cool" about a DUI (and I live where they're not even a felony shockingly).. But to these kids and people sick enough to commit these crimes, they truly feel it's something people will cheer for... That's the most sickening, disturbing, ad troublesome part... Be it bombs, guns, poison, etc. These sickos truly feel they found a "family" to support them if they commit these crimes. It's very similar to Al queada etc in ways.. They're also proportionally not legal gun owners. All too often the parents, a relative, etc gave access.. those people need to face the same charges as accomplices Imho. It's your duty to safely store your weapons
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Donald Trump, by Happy Shopper on Nov 9, 2018 17:59:33 GMT 1, The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew? But it all basically boils down to social media, culture, and issues within the family creating these individuals. You can't stop crazy people being crazy... whether real mental illness, or something else.... But you can restrict their access to guns.
At least in Europe and Australia when a nutter decides to go on a rampage, the most they can get is a car (if they can drive) and some knives... which is bad enough.
The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew? But it all basically boils down to social media, culture, and issues within the family creating these individuals. You can't stop crazy people being crazy... whether real mental illness, or something else.... But you can restrict their access to guns. At least in Europe and Australia when a nutter decides to go on a rampage, the most they can get is a car (if they can drive) and some knives... which is bad enough.
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 18:02:06 GMT 1, Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries
20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting..
Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries
So how do we explain that?
One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas..
Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries
20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting..
Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries
So how do we explain that?
One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas..
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qest
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March 2018
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Donald Trump, by qest on Nov 9, 2018 18:06:50 GMT 1, Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries 20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting.. Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries So how do we explain that? One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas.. That statistic is hilariously wrong. In 2018 alone there are only a handful of states that have not had a mass shooting.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2018
Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries 20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting.. Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries So how do we explain that? One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas.. That statistic is hilariously wrong. In 2018 alone there are only a handful of states that have not had a mass shooting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2018
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k2
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November 2016
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Donald Trump, by k2 on Nov 9, 2018 18:10:34 GMT 1, Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries 20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting.. Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries So how do we explain that? One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas.. Your statistics are at odds with the commonly accepted definition of a mass-shooting, that being an incident where at least four people were killed or wounded.
Using that definition, 45 states saw mass shootings in 2015 alone.
Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries 20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting.. Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries So how do we explain that? One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas.. Your statistics are at odds with the commonly accepted definition of a mass-shooting, that being an incident where at least four people were killed or wounded. Using that definition, 45 states saw mass shootings in 2015 alone.
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Leo Boyd
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June 2016
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Donald Trump, by Leo Boyd on Nov 9, 2018 18:12:47 GMT 1, I don't know what you are trying to say here. Are you saying that as the USA is different to other countries, therefore it is perfectly ok to allow them to have as many guns as they wish, including automatic and semi-automatic rifles in the hands of anybody who wants one? They do have a far higher concentration of witches in the states to be fair which is why you should not deny them their village dunking stools
I don't know what you are trying to say here. Are you saying that as the USA is different to other countries, therefore it is perfectly ok to allow them to have as many guns as they wish, including automatic and semi-automatic rifles in the hands of anybody who wants one? They do have a far higher concentration of witches in the states to be fair which is why you should not deny them their village dunking stools
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