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Donald Trump, by amsterdam9697 on Nov 9, 2018 18:15:26 GMT 1, I'm tired of the NRA defeatist propaganda and I can't think of anywhere in the US where a DUI isn't a felony, so what magical land are we talking about? Bottom line things need to change when it seems easier for people to pull a trigger vs. having a conversation.
I'm tired of the NRA defeatist propaganda and I can't think of anywhere in the US where a DUI isn't a felony, so what magical land are we talking about? Bottom line things need to change when it seems easier for people to pull a trigger vs. having a conversation.
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 18:18:19 GMT 1, Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries 20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting.. Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries So how do we explain that? One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas.. Your statistics are at odds with the commonly accepted definition of a mass-shooting, that being an incident where at least four people were killed or wounded. Using that definition, 45 states saw mass shootings in 2015 alone.
I'm removing "common" murders etc and discussing acts of violence on strangers
A guy killing his 3 family members and then himself is not a mass shooting
Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries 20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting.. Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries So how do we explain that? One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas.. Your statistics are at odds with the commonly accepted definition of a mass-shooting, that being an incident where at least four people were killed or wounded. Using that definition, 45 states saw mass shootings in 2015 alone. I'm removing "common" murders etc and discussing acts of violence on strangers A guy killing his 3 family members and then himself is not a mass shooting
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Donald Trump, by skAcid on Nov 9, 2018 18:18:55 GMT 1, Mass shootings in the US: There have been 1,624 in 1,870 days. No other developed nation comes close to the rate of US gun violence. Americans own an estimated 265m guns, more than one gun for every adult. Data from the Gun Violence Archive reveals there is a mass shooting – defined as four or more people shot in one incident, not including the shooter – nine out of every 10 days on average.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/02/america-mass-shootings-gun-violence
Mass shootings in the US: There have been 1,624 in 1,870 days. No other developed nation comes close to the rate of US gun violence. Americans own an estimated 265m guns, more than one gun for every adult. Data from the Gun Violence Archive reveals there is a mass shooting – defined as four or more people shot in one incident, not including the shooter – nine out of every 10 days on average. www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/02/america-mass-shootings-gun-violence
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 18:19:48 GMT 1, Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries 20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting.. Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries So how do we explain that? One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas.. That statistic is hilariously wrong. In 2018 alone there are only a handful of states that have not had a mass shooting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2018
Actually no.. 12 states in 2018 if u use the ignorant 4 killed method
I'm talking about random acts of violence on strangers here. Not typical murder
Here's a random statistic because everyone is comparing us vs these smaller countries 20 states have never, ever had a mass shooting.. Their population is well over that of the UK and Australia combined... With much higher rates of gun ownership in the same states vs those countries So how do we explain that? One fact is that these are more traditional, family based areas.. That statistic is hilariously wrong. In 2018 alone there are only a handful of states that have not had a mass shooting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2018Actually no.. 12 states in 2018 if u use the ignorant 4 killed method I'm talking about random acts of violence on strangers here. Not typical murder
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Donald Trump, by qest on Nov 9, 2018 18:22:25 GMT 1, Actually no.. 12 states in 2018 if u use the ignorant 4 killed method I'm talking about random acts of violence on strangers here. Not typical murder Did you know the sun is only one football field from the earth? Just FYI I'm talking about football fields that are 92.96 million miles long.
Actually no.. 12 states in 2018 if u use the ignorant 4 killed method I'm talking about random acts of violence on strangers here. Not typical murder Did you know the sun is only one football field from the earth? Just FYI I'm talking about football fields that are 92.96 million miles long.
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 18:26:36 GMT 1, Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings
unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband
None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number
Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings
unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband
None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number
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Donald Trump, by Coach on Nov 9, 2018 18:28:09 GMT 1, The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew? But a person or three has been stabbed to death every day this month
Well why not let everyone have access to any weapon they want then? Look, it’s quite simple. You take away easy access to guns, you reduce the number of people who get killed by guns.
The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew? But a person or three has been stabbed to death every day this month Well why not let everyone have access to any weapon they want then? Look, it’s quite simple. You take away easy access to guns, you reduce the number of people who get killed by guns.
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 9, 2018 18:31:20 GMT 1, Your statistics are at odds with the commonly accepted definition of a mass-shooting, that being an incident where at least four people were killed or wounded. Using that definition, 45 states saw mass shootings in 2015 alone. I'm removing "common" murders etc and discussing acts of violence on strangers A guy killing his 3 family members and then himself is not a mass shooting Let me get this straight. Gun violence on people you know is ok?
Your statistics are at odds with the commonly accepted definition of a mass-shooting, that being an incident where at least four people were killed or wounded. Using that definition, 45 states saw mass shootings in 2015 alone. I'm removing "common" murders etc and discussing acts of violence on strangers A guy killing his 3 family members and then himself is not a mass shooting Let me get this straight. Gun violence on people you know is ok?
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Donald Trump, by Coach on Nov 9, 2018 18:32:32 GMT 1, Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number
Setting aside the point you are making, I’m so sorry to hear that.
On point, shootings are so rare here, where there is strict gun control, that I do not know anyone who has been shot, nor do I know anyone who knows someone who has been shot. Likewise I do not know anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who knows someone who owns a gun. I hope that strict control continues.
Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number Setting aside the point you are making, I’m so sorry to hear that. On point, shootings are so rare here, where there is strict gun control, that I do not know anyone who has been shot, nor do I know anyone who knows someone who has been shot. Likewise I do not know anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who knows someone who owns a gun. I hope that strict control continues.
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 18:32:54 GMT 1, I'm removing "common" murders etc and discussing acts of violence on strangers A guy killing his 3 family members and then himself is not a mass shooting Let me get this straight. Gun violence on people you know is ok?
Why would I ever say that but it's not quote on quote mass shooting
I'm removing "common" murders etc and discussing acts of violence on strangers A guy killing his 3 family members and then himself is not a mass shooting Let me get this straight. Gun violence on people you know is ok? Why would I ever say that but it's not quote on quote mass shooting
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 9, 2018 18:32:54 GMT 1, Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number And that is really sad. Do you never wonder whether they'd still be here if guns were much harder to access?
Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number And that is really sad. Do you never wonder whether they'd still be here if guns were much harder to access?
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Donald Trump, by Leo Boyd on Nov 9, 2018 18:33:16 GMT 1, Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number You are talking about spree killers then? So if we take away the number of spree killers America would still have a shockingly high rate of gun death and something would still have to be done about that no? Ps sorry about your friends. That is pretty grim.
Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number You are talking about spree killers then? So if we take away the number of spree killers America would still have a shockingly high rate of gun death and something would still have to be done about that no? Ps sorry about your friends. That is pretty grim.
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 18:34:43 GMT 1, Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number Setting aside the point you are making, I’m so sorry to hear that. On point, shootings are so rare here, where there is strict gun control, that I do not know anyone who has been shot, nor do I know anyone who knows someone who has been shot. Likewise I do not know anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who knows someone who owns a gun. I hope that strict control continues.
and I thank you for that
unfortunately I believe this is part of the problem that people outside of the United States can't fathom that our culture in fact is so different regarding this that the daily Outlook usage Etc is entirely different than it would be in your country
Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number Setting aside the point you are making, I’m so sorry to hear that. On point, shootings are so rare here, where there is strict gun control, that I do not know anyone who has been shot, nor do I know anyone who knows someone who has been shot. Likewise I do not know anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who knows someone who owns a gun. I hope that strict control continues. and I thank you for that unfortunately I believe this is part of the problem that people outside of the United States can't fathom that our culture in fact is so different regarding this that the daily Outlook usage Etc is entirely different than it would be in your country
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 18:35:36 GMT 1, Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number You are talking about spree killers then? So if we take away the number of spree killers America would still have a shockingly high rate of gun death and something would still have to be done about that no? Ps sorry about your friends. That is pretty grim.
no my friend I'm talking about the fact that this quote-unquote statistic includes any time for people are killed which unfortunately in the United States is not all that uncommon and can happen in a simple things such as a robbery at cetera..
including these in mass shooting statistics makes zero sense to me as it's an entirely different motive and reason for the murders
Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number You are talking about spree killers then? So if we take away the number of spree killers America would still have a shockingly high rate of gun death and something would still have to be done about that no? Ps sorry about your friends. That is pretty grim. no my friend I'm talking about the fact that this quote-unquote statistic includes any time for people are killed which unfortunately in the United States is not all that uncommon and can happen in a simple things such as a robbery at cetera.. including these in mass shooting statistics makes zero sense to me as it's an entirely different motive and reason for the murders
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Donald Trump, by Coach on Nov 9, 2018 18:39:22 GMT 1, The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew? But a person or three has been stabbed to death every day this month
Yes, and carrying a knife has been criminalised. Are you arguing that because some people carry a knife, there’s no point limiting what else, that could do much more harm, they can carry?
The UK and Australia as two examples, seemingly managed to eradicate crazy killers as a result of stricter gun control. Who knew? But a person or three has been stabbed to death every day this month Yes, and carrying a knife has been criminalised. Are you arguing that because some people carry a knife, there’s no point limiting what else, that could do much more harm, they can carry?
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Donald Trump, by Pysgod on Nov 9, 2018 18:41:12 GMT 1, Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number Setting aside the point you are making, I’m so sorry to hear that. On point, shootings are so rare here, where there is strict gun control, that I do not know anyone who has been shot, nor do I know anyone who knows someone who has been shot. Likewise I do not know anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who knows someone who owns a gun. I hope that strict control continues. Liar ! selective memory ? I'm sure your good friend the lonely farmer has many.
Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number Setting aside the point you are making, I’m so sorry to hear that. On point, shootings are so rare here, where there is strict gun control, that I do not know anyone who has been shot, nor do I know anyone who knows someone who has been shot. Likewise I do not know anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who knows someone who owns a gun. I hope that strict control continues. Liar ! selective memory ? I'm sure your good friend the lonely farmer has many.
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Donald Trump, by k2 on Nov 9, 2018 18:41:38 GMT 1, Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number That is terrible, very sorry to hear that.
Whether or not the statistic is ignorant or not I don't know, but it's worth mentioning that the FBI, the Gun Violence Archive, all major media outlets (including Fox news) and the Congressional Research Service all disagree with your definition.
What I would say is that I feel very fortunate to live somewhere where it never even crosses my mind that someone in the same shop / restaurant / cinema / train as me or my family might be carrying a gun. While you may feel that the right to bear arms is an important part of your freedom, I can only share my experience that living with the benefits of stricter gun control is an important part of mine.
Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number That is terrible, very sorry to hear that. Whether or not the statistic is ignorant or not I don't know, but it's worth mentioning that the FBI, the Gun Violence Archive, all major media outlets (including Fox news) and the Congressional Research Service all disagree with your definition. What I would say is that I feel very fortunate to live somewhere where it never even crosses my mind that someone in the same shop / restaurant / cinema / train as me or my family might be carrying a gun. While you may feel that the right to bear arms is an important part of your freedom, I can only share my experience that living with the benefits of stricter gun control is an important part of mine.
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Donald Trump, by Leo Boyd on Nov 9, 2018 18:42:49 GMT 1, You are talking about spree killers then? So if we take away the number of spree killers America would still have a shockingly high rate of gun death and something would still have to be done about that no? Ps sorry about your friends. That is pretty grim. no my friend I'm talking about the fact that this quote-unquote statistic includes any time for people are killed which unfortunately in the United States is not all that uncommon and can happen in a simple things such as a robbery at cetera.. including these in mass shooting statistics makes zero sense to me as it's an entirely different motive and reason for the murders I think you missed my point there so ok... if we take away all the deaths by what you define as mass shootings then America would still have a shockingly high death by gun rate no? It would still be something that would have to be dealt with on a social and governmental level so that less and less people died each year?
You are talking about spree killers then? So if we take away the number of spree killers America would still have a shockingly high rate of gun death and something would still have to be done about that no? Ps sorry about your friends. That is pretty grim. no my friend I'm talking about the fact that this quote-unquote statistic includes any time for people are killed which unfortunately in the United States is not all that uncommon and can happen in a simple things such as a robbery at cetera.. including these in mass shooting statistics makes zero sense to me as it's an entirely different motive and reason for the murders I think you missed my point there so ok... if we take away all the deaths by what you define as mass shootings then America would still have a shockingly high death by gun rate no? It would still be something that would have to be dealt with on a social and governmental level so that less and less people died each year?
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Donald Trump, by Coach on Nov 9, 2018 18:44:44 GMT 1, Setting aside the point you are making, I’m so sorry to hear that. On point, shootings are so rare here, where there is strict gun control, that I do not know anyone who has been shot, nor do I know anyone who knows someone who has been shot. Likewise I do not know anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who knows someone who owns a gun. I hope that strict control continues. and I thank you for that unfortunately I believe this is part of the problem that people outside of the United States can't fathom that our culture in fact is so different regarding this that the daily Outlook usage Etc is entirely different than it would be in your country
Yes, indeed, I suspect that’s the nail hit on the head; there’s a cultural difference. I suppose that that begs the question, is it time to try to change that culture, or are you happy with it. And that, my friend, is a question for you and your fellow countrymen, rather than me, I guess. But I do hope that it does change because I can’t imagine what benefits guns bring.
Setting aside the point you are making, I’m so sorry to hear that. On point, shootings are so rare here, where there is strict gun control, that I do not know anyone who has been shot, nor do I know anyone who knows someone who has been shot. Likewise I do not know anyone who owns a gun, or anyone who knows someone who owns a gun. I hope that strict control continues. and I thank you for that unfortunately I believe this is part of the problem that people outside of the United States can't fathom that our culture in fact is so different regarding this that the daily Outlook usage Etc is entirely different than it would be in your country Yes, indeed, I suspect that’s the nail hit on the head; there’s a cultural difference. I suppose that that begs the question, is it time to try to change that culture, or are you happy with it. And that, my friend, is a question for you and your fellow countrymen, rather than me, I guess. But I do hope that it does change because I can’t imagine what benefits guns bring.
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Donald Trump, by touchdowntodd on Nov 9, 2018 18:45:29 GMT 1, Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number That is terrible, very sorry to hear that. Whether or not the statistic is ignorant or not I don't know, but it's worth mentioning that the FBI, the Gun Violence Archive, all major media outlets (including Fox news) and the Congressional Research Service all disagree with your definition. What I would say is that I feel very fortunate to live somewhere where it never even crosses my mind that someone in the same shop / restaurant / cinema / train as me or my family might be carrying a gun. While you may feel that the right to bear arms is an important part of your freedom, I can only share my experience that living with the benefits of stricter gun control is an important part of mine.
there's a given take with living anywhere and I personally would never live anywhere except for the United States even with the gun violence. there's just certain things you guys can't see in certain manipulations by certain institutions to make it look certain ways and it's just not that way in the vast majority of the country you're really quite safe it's just that our crime is very centralized in certain areas for the most part
and I apologize because I'm currently driving so I have to use voice text I'm not as ignorant as it seems I am in regards to grammar and spelling LOL
Going off that ignorant statistic I have 4 friends that died in mass shootings unfortunately one was at an armed robbery in a store, two where drug deals gone bad, and one was killed by her husband None of the 4 were "mass shootings" by any other definition other than that silly number That is terrible, very sorry to hear that. Whether or not the statistic is ignorant or not I don't know, but it's worth mentioning that the FBI, the Gun Violence Archive, all major media outlets (including Fox news) and the Congressional Research Service all disagree with your definition. What I would say is that I feel very fortunate to live somewhere where it never even crosses my mind that someone in the same shop / restaurant / cinema / train as me or my family might be carrying a gun. While you may feel that the right to bear arms is an important part of your freedom, I can only share my experience that living with the benefits of stricter gun control is an important part of mine. there's a given take with living anywhere and I personally would never live anywhere except for the United States even with the gun violence. there's just certain things you guys can't see in certain manipulations by certain institutions to make it look certain ways and it's just not that way in the vast majority of the country you're really quite safe it's just that our crime is very centralized in certain areas for the most part and I apologize because I'm currently driving so I have to use voice text I'm not as ignorant as it seems I am in regards to grammar and spelling LOL
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Donald Trump, by Pysgod on Nov 9, 2018 18:50:32 GMT 1, But a person or three has been stabbed to death every day this month Yes, and carrying a knife has been criminalised. Are you arguing that because some people carry a knife, there’s no point limiting what else, that could do much more harm, they can carry? If someone is going to do something to someone else they will do it be it with a gun a knife a car or the lowest of the low acid, I think anyone that uses any of the above against the innocent are cowards shit bags..
But a person or three has been stabbed to death every day this month Yes, and carrying a knife has been criminalised. Are you arguing that because some people carry a knife, there’s no point limiting what else, that could do much more harm, they can carry? If someone is going to do something to someone else they will do it be it with a gun a knife a car or the lowest of the low acid, I think anyone that uses any of the above against the innocent are cowards shit bags..
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 19:05:14 GMT 1, I'm tired of the NRA defeatist propaganda and I can't think of anywhere in the US where a DUI isn't a felony, so what magical land are we talking about? Bottom line things need to change when it seems easier for people to pull a trigger vs. having a conversation. I can't see things changing under Trump, can you? He is dependent too much on gun-toting country hicks for that.
I'm tired of the NRA defeatist propaganda and I can't think of anywhere in the US where a DUI isn't a felony, so what magical land are we talking about? Bottom line things need to change when it seems easier for people to pull a trigger vs. having a conversation. I can't see things changing under Trump, can you? He is dependent too much on gun-toting country hicks for that.
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 9, 2018 19:07:55 GMT 1, Yes, and carrying a knife has been criminalised. Are you arguing that because some people carry a knife, there’s no point limiting what else, that could do much more harm, they can carry? If someone is going to do something to someone else they will do it be it with a gun a knife a car or the lowest of the low acid, I think anyone that uses any of the above against the innocent are cowardss**t bags..
Only one of those things has the sole purpose of killing. With a few exceptions it will do more damage, to more people, quicker. It is easier to kill spontaneously with and harder to defend a life against. But agreed, those who carry out violence against others for no reasons are often cowards
Yes, and carrying a knife has been criminalised. Are you arguing that because some people carry a knife, there’s no point limiting what else, that could do much more harm, they can carry? If someone is going to do something to someone else they will do it be it with a gun a knife a car or the lowest of the low acid, I think anyone that uses any of the above against the innocent are cowardss**t bags.. Only one of those things has the sole purpose of killing. With a few exceptions it will do more damage, to more people, quicker. It is easier to kill spontaneously with and harder to defend a life against. But agreed, those who carry out violence against others for no reasons are often cowards
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Donald Trump, by rebate on Nov 9, 2018 20:12:49 GMT 1, "You can take our children, but youll never take our guns."
"You can take our children, but youll never take our guns."
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Donald Trump, by Leo Boyd on Nov 9, 2018 21:02:35 GMT 1, There is a good radiolab about the history of the 2nd amendment it is well worth a listen www.wnycstudios.org/story/gun-show
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 10, 2018 20:43:14 GMT 1, "Currently, to buy a gun from a licensed dealer requires a background check, which includes a check against criminal records databases. A permanent record of the sale is created. But you can legally also buy a gun from a private party and never have to even show your identification. This is known as the “private sale loophole” and it includes guns bought at gun shows – such as those used in the 1999 massacre at Columbine high school. The New England Journal of Medicine, in a 2010 study, estimated that 40% of gun sales in the US fall into this loophole."
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/04/what-happened-president-obama-joe-biden-plan-reduce-gun-violence-sandy-hook-san-bernardino
I doub't any President can end mass shootings by a determined person.
There have been cases where the police knew someone was a potential killer who owned guns but the police were not allowed by law to confiscate the guns. Recently the police did take guns away from a young guy but gave them back to his father who let his son have access to the guns and his son went on a shooting rampage.
Guns do give some people a feeling of power and probably put them in situations they would not be in if they never owned a gun.
"Currently, to buy a gun from a licensed dealer requires a background check, which includes a check against criminal records databases. A permanent record of the sale is created. But you can legally also buy a gun from a private party and never have to even show your identification. This is known as the “private sale loophole” and it includes guns bought at gun shows – such as those used in the 1999 massacre at Columbine high school. The New England Journal of Medicine, in a 2010 study, estimated that 40% of gun sales in the US fall into this loophole."
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/04/what-happened-president-obama-joe-biden-plan-reduce-gun-violence-sandy-hook-san-bernardino
I doub't any President can end mass shootings by a determined person. There have been cases where the police knew someone was a potential killer who owned guns but the police were not allowed by law to confiscate the guns. Recently the police did take guns away from a young guy but gave them back to his father who let his son have access to the guns and his son went on a shooting rampage. Guns do give some people a feeling of power and probably put them in situations they would not be in if they never owned a gun.
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Winter
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Donald Trump, by Winter on Nov 10, 2018 20:47:30 GMT 1, Let them have the right to bear arms and make all ammunition illegal.
Let them have the right to bear arms and make all ammunition illegal.
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moron
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 10, 2018 21:21:14 GMT 1, Pervert. Joking aside, you know exactly what I mean. The guy is on tape bragging about doing it. You're there defending the honour of the intern whilst your orange moron of a leader issues NDAs to cover his tracks. he was a multimillion playboy he was just showing off about it boys talk , ffs just because your a soyboy how do you feel about the muslim child rapists in the uk that did far graver acts ? dont hear you banging on about that. tell me Trump was basically saying that there are women out there, if they know someone is rich and famous will let themselves be grabbed by the pussy and you can do anything you want with them. He was referring to the groupy types. He was not saying he goes round grabbing women by the pussy.
The conversation was private, recorded without permission and it looks like the guys on the bus were egging Trump on knowing they were recording him and Trump started bragging. When they got off the bus and the woman assistant came to meet Trump, he behaved professionally despite the guy with Trump who recorded him, trying to egg him on. The set up didn't work and the guy lost his job.
Regarding the problem with the mainly Pakistani muslim rape gangs operating for many years in British towns, including Rotherham. Left wing politics has a lot to do with these rape gangs operating under the noses of the Local council, which is Labour controlled, local politicians and local police. The local council and Labour party knew about it and covered it up for years. Rotherham council agreed in a meeting to cover up gang rapes by local Pakistanis. Some councillors took bribes from rapists and at least one councillor took part in rapes. The council also paid off some victims to not press charges. The local police threatened a female home office researcher that if she did not lay off, they would give her home address to Pakistani rapists they know. Local police asked victims for dates. Local police threatened victims with arrest to scare them off making complaints. The Labour party took donations from wealth local business people who took part in rapes.
Jeremy Corbyn fired MP Sarah Champion who wrote an article about the problem. In exchange for votes.
Left wing politics. It doesn't get much lower than that.
Pervert. Joking aside, you know exactly what I mean. The guy is on tape bragging about doing it. You're there defending the honour of the intern whilst your orange moron of a leader issues NDAs to cover his tracks. he was a multimillion playboy he was just showing off about it boys talk , ffs just because your a soyboy how do you feel about the muslim child rapists in the uk that did far graver acts ? dont hear you banging on about that. tell me Trump was basically saying that there are women out there, if they know someone is rich and famous will let themselves be grabbed by the pussy and you can do anything you want with them. He was referring to the groupy types. He was not saying he goes round grabbing women by the pussy. The conversation was private, recorded without permission and it looks like the guys on the bus were egging Trump on knowing they were recording him and Trump started bragging. When they got off the bus and the woman assistant came to meet Trump, he behaved professionally despite the guy with Trump who recorded him, trying to egg him on. The set up didn't work and the guy lost his job. Regarding the problem with the mainly Pakistani muslim rape gangs operating for many years in British towns, including Rotherham. Left wing politics has a lot to do with these rape gangs operating under the noses of the Local council, which is Labour controlled, local politicians and local police. The local council and Labour party knew about it and covered it up for years. Rotherham council agreed in a meeting to cover up gang rapes by local Pakistanis. Some councillors took bribes from rapists and at least one councillor took part in rapes. The council also paid off some victims to not press charges. The local police threatened a female home office researcher that if she did not lay off, they would give her home address to Pakistani rapists they know. Local police asked victims for dates. Local police threatened victims with arrest to scare them off making complaints. The Labour party took donations from wealth local business people who took part in rapes. Jeremy Corbyn fired MP Sarah Champion who wrote an article about the problem. In exchange for votes. Left wing politics. It doesn't get much lower than that.
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 10, 2018 21:31:17 GMT 1, he was a multimillion playboy he was just showing off about it boys talk , ffs just because your a soyboy how do you feel about the muslim child rapists in the uk that did far graver acts ? dont hear you banging on about that. tell me Trump was basically saying that there are women out there, if they know someone is rich and famous will let themselves be grabbed by the pussy and you can do anything you want with them. He was referring to the groupy types. He was not saying he goes round grabbing women by the pussy. The conversation was private, recorded without permission and it looks like the guys on the bus were egging Trump on knowing they were recording him and Trump started bragging. When they got off the bus and the woman assistant came to meet Trump, he behaved professionally despite the guy with Trump who recorded him, trying to egg him on. The set up didn't work and the guy lost his job. Regarding the problem with the mainly Pakistani muslim rape gangs operating for many years in British towns, including Rotherham. Left wing politics has a lot to do with these rape gangs operating under the noses of the Local council, which is Labour controlled, local politicians and local police. The local council and Labour party knew about it and covered it up for years. Rotherham council agreed in a meeting to cover up gang rapes by local Pakistanis. Some councillors took bribes from rapists and at least one councillor took part in rapes. The council also paid off some victims to not press charges. The local police threatened a female home office researcher that if she did not lay off, they would give her home address to Pakistani rapists they know. Local police asked victims for dates. Local police threatened victims with arrest to scare them off making complaints. The Labour party took donations from wealth local business people who took part in rapes. Jeremy Corbyn fired MP Sarah Champion who wrote an article about the problem. In exchange for votes. Left wing politics. It doesn't get much lower than that.
Another one more concerned with the perpetrators than the victims.
he was a multimillion playboy he was just showing off about it boys talk , ffs just because your a soyboy how do you feel about the muslim child rapists in the uk that did far graver acts ? dont hear you banging on about that. tell me Trump was basically saying that there are women out there, if they know someone is rich and famous will let themselves be grabbed by the pussy and you can do anything you want with them. He was referring to the groupy types. He was not saying he goes round grabbing women by the pussy. The conversation was private, recorded without permission and it looks like the guys on the bus were egging Trump on knowing they were recording him and Trump started bragging. When they got off the bus and the woman assistant came to meet Trump, he behaved professionally despite the guy with Trump who recorded him, trying to egg him on. The set up didn't work and the guy lost his job. Regarding the problem with the mainly Pakistani muslim rape gangs operating for many years in British towns, including Rotherham. Left wing politics has a lot to do with these rape gangs operating under the noses of the Local council, which is Labour controlled, local politicians and local police. The local council and Labour party knew about it and covered it up for years. Rotherham council agreed in a meeting to cover up gang rapes by local Pakistanis. Some councillors took bribes from rapists and at least one councillor took part in rapes. The council also paid off some victims to not press charges. The local police threatened a female home office researcher that if she did not lay off, they would give her home address to Pakistani rapists they know. Local police asked victims for dates. Local police threatened victims with arrest to scare them off making complaints. The Labour party took donations from wealth local business people who took part in rapes. Jeremy Corbyn fired MP Sarah Champion who wrote an article about the problem. In exchange for votes. Left wing politics. It doesn't get much lower than that. Another one more concerned with the perpetrators than the victims.
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moron
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 10, 2018 21:43:38 GMT 1, Trump was basically saying that there are women out there, if they know someone is rich and famous will let themselves be grabbed by the pussy and you can do anything you want with them. He was referring to the groupy types. He was not saying he goes round grabbing women by the pussy. The conversation was private, recorded without permission and it looks like the guys on the bus were egging Trump on knowing they were recording him and Trump started bragging. When they got off the bus and the woman assistant came to meet Trump, he behaved professionally despite the guy with Trump who recorded him, trying to egg him on. The set up didn't work and the guy lost his job. Regarding the problem with the mainly Pakistani muslim rape gangs operating for many years in British towns, including Rotherham. Left wing politics has a lot to do with these rape gangs operating under the noses of the Local council, which is Labour controlled, local politicians and local police. The local council and Labour party knew about it and covered it up for years. Rotherham council agreed in a meeting to cover up gang rapes by local Pakistanis. Some councillors took bribes from rapists and at least one councillor took part in rapes. The council also paid off some victims to not press charges. The local police threatened a female home office researcher that if she did not lay off, they would give her home address to Pakistani rapists they know. Local police asked victims for dates. Local police threatened victims with arrest to scare them off making complaints. The Labour party took donations from wealth local business people who took part in rapes. Jeremy Corbyn fired MP Sarah Champion who wrote an article about the problem. In exchange for votes. Left wing politics. It doesn't get much lower than that. Another one more concerned with the perpetrators than the victims. I care about victims not perpetrators.
That's why I posted a few facts about Labour
Trump was basically saying that there are women out there, if they know someone is rich and famous will let themselves be grabbed by the pussy and you can do anything you want with them. He was referring to the groupy types. He was not saying he goes round grabbing women by the pussy. The conversation was private, recorded without permission and it looks like the guys on the bus were egging Trump on knowing they were recording him and Trump started bragging. When they got off the bus and the woman assistant came to meet Trump, he behaved professionally despite the guy with Trump who recorded him, trying to egg him on. The set up didn't work and the guy lost his job. Regarding the problem with the mainly Pakistani muslim rape gangs operating for many years in British towns, including Rotherham. Left wing politics has a lot to do with these rape gangs operating under the noses of the Local council, which is Labour controlled, local politicians and local police. The local council and Labour party knew about it and covered it up for years. Rotherham council agreed in a meeting to cover up gang rapes by local Pakistanis. Some councillors took bribes from rapists and at least one councillor took part in rapes. The council also paid off some victims to not press charges. The local police threatened a female home office researcher that if she did not lay off, they would give her home address to Pakistani rapists they know. Local police asked victims for dates. Local police threatened victims with arrest to scare them off making complaints. The Labour party took donations from wealth local business people who took part in rapes. Jeremy Corbyn fired MP Sarah Champion who wrote an article about the problem. In exchange for votes. Left wing politics. It doesn't get much lower than that. Another one more concerned with the perpetrators than the victims. I care about victims not perpetrators. That's why I posted a few facts about Labour
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