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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 18:21:01 GMT 1, Morality was at its peak 2 years ago? Where do you get this garbage from? Just look at the homicide rates or how black people are treated by the police and the U.S. justice system. The USA (along with most of the rest of the world) was a ****ing mess 2 years ago. And it's only got worse under Trump. Trump is spreading hatred and fear and hostility in every speech he ever makes. You think that's spreading morality? I’m saying morality was on a decline way before Trump. So attributing that to him is ridiculous. If you interperate hatred, fear, and hostility from his speech that’s on you. Plenty of others see hope and opportunity. I could easily argue he promotes morality, I believe it’s immoral to illegally enter a county when others are in the process of going about it the right way. He has said those who request asylum at ports of entry will have their cases heard. If they have a genuine case where they aren’t just coming to take advantage of our country and they aren’t a threat they’ll have their chance. He’s only arresting those who break the law and jump the border, how is upholding the law immoral?
I would agree that morality was on the decline before Trump (as my previous post demonstrated). What I am saying is that Trump is making things worse with his hate-filled rhetoric. It is not a coincidence that Ku Klax Klan supporters vote for Trump. Neither is it a coincidence that every politician investigating his involvement in corruption gets fired. If anybody seriously thinks Trump is a moral person then they are either ignorant or brainwashed, one of the two.
Morality was at its peak 2 years ago? Where do you get this garbage from? Just look at the homicide rates or how black people are treated by the police and the U.S. justice system. The USA (along with most of the rest of the world) was a ****ing mess 2 years ago. And it's only got worse under Trump. Trump is spreading hatred and fear and hostility in every speech he ever makes. You think that's spreading morality? I’m saying morality was on a decline way before Trump. So attributing that to him is ridiculous. If you interperate hatred, fear, and hostility from his speech that’s on you. Plenty of others see hope and opportunity. I could easily argue he promotes morality, I believe it’s immoral to illegally enter a county when others are in the process of going about it the right way. He has said those who request asylum at ports of entry will have their cases heard. If they have a genuine case where they aren’t just coming to take advantage of our country and they aren’t a threat they’ll have their chance. He’s only arresting those who break the law and jump the border, how is upholding the law immoral? There is nothing wrong with enforcing border checks. But that doesn't mean Trump's can go around and say "Mexicans are rapists, criminals and drug dealers" which he has (more than once). I would agree that morality was on the decline before Trump (as my previous post demonstrated). What I am saying is that Trump is making things worse with his hate-filled rhetoric. It is not a coincidence that Ku Klax Klan supporters vote for Trump. Neither is it a coincidence that every politician investigating his involvement in corruption gets fired. If anybody seriously thinks Trump is a moral person then they are either ignorant or brainwashed, one of the two. |
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Donald Trump, by Chris JL on Nov 11, 2018 18:21:10 GMT 1, Only one may have had a male role model but every single one of them had access to and used guns. Only one common denominator. And then it isn’t guns, it’s knives. Then when knives are banned it’s acid. Sound familiar? Where there is a will there is a way. Franklin said “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” That’s exactly where we’re headed giving up our rights over fears. If Hitler did not have the right to freedom of speech, he wouldn’t have had the opportunity to rise to power. Should we do away with that too?
Nope, it’s guns - and it’s a fact, not an opinion. Let me state this clearly: there is no evidence of significant substitution effect in the data. If we remove the guns we will NOT have a compensating increase in murders with knifes, acids, hairpins, rubber bands etc.
And that’s not surprising, even a child would get it: make murders harder to commit and you will have less murders.
Also, think about the absurdity of your argument: based on your logic we should also allow private ownership of bazookas, RPGs, tanks, surface to air missiles, and why not, nukes too. Sounds stupid, doesn’t it? It’s because it is.
Only one may have had a male role model but every single one of them had access to and used guns. Only one common denominator. And then it isn’t guns, it’s knives. Then when knives are banned it’s acid. Sound familiar? Where there is a will there is a way. Franklin said “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” That’s exactly where we’re headed giving up our rights over fears. If Hitler did not have the right to freedom of speech, he wouldn’t have had the opportunity to rise to power. Should we do away with that too? Nope, it’s guns - and it’s a fact, not an opinion. Let me state this clearly: there is no evidence of significant substitution effect in the data. If we remove the guns we will NOT have a compensating increase in murders with knifes, acids, hairpins, rubber bands etc. And that’s not surprising, even a child would get it: make murders harder to commit and you will have less murders. Also, think about the absurdity of your argument: based on your logic we should also allow private ownership of bazookas, RPGs, tanks, surface to air missiles, and why not, nukes too. Sounds stupid, doesn’t it? It’s because it is. |
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 11, 2018 18:25:59 GMT 1, That's a mute point. If the las Vegas 'shooter' had a knife, would he have been able to kill 50 people and injure nearly 1000 people ?. Yes we have knife attacks and the odd acid attack ... but there isn't a weekly acid massacre !. There needs to be some kind of licence for guns, I can't drive a car unless I've taken a test... why is it not the same? As for the Hitler reference.... The most recent shooting in California was commited by a mentally ill veteran who owned his weapon legally via a permit. The police had interacted with him many times previously and had the ability to confiscate his weapons if he were deemed to be a risk to himself or others. The laws were on the books to prevent what happened but those responsible failed to act. More laws to ‘prevent’ things like this won’t help when current laws designed to do such aren’t preventing it either.
The answer is staring you in the face!!!!!
That's a mute point. If the las Vegas 'shooter' had a knife, would he have been able to kill 50 people and injure nearly 1000 people ?. Yes we have knife attacks and the odd acid attack ... but there isn't a weekly acid massacre !. There needs to be some kind of licence for guns, I can't drive a car unless I've taken a test... why is it not the same? As for the Hitler reference.... The most recent shooting in California was commited by a mentally ill veteran who owned his weapon legally via a permit. The police had interacted with him many times previously and had the ability to confiscate his weapons if he were deemed to be a risk to himself or others. The laws were on the books to prevent what happened but those responsible failed to act. More laws to ‘prevent’ things like this won’t help when current laws designed to do such aren’t preventing it either. The answer is staring you in the face!!!!! |
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Donald Trump, by .dappy on Nov 11, 2018 18:27:53 GMT 1, Only one may have had a male role model but every single one of them had access to and used guns. Only one common denominator. And then it isn’t guns, it’s knives. Then when knives are banned it’s acid. Sound familiar? Where there is a will there is a way. Franklin said “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” That’s exactly where we’re headed giving up our rights over fears. If Hitler did not have the right to freedom of speech, he wouldn’t have had the opportunity to rise to power. Should we do away with that too?
... Godwins Law has been enacted ... you have therefore lost the complete argument ...
... can I suggest that everyone has a cup of tea ... and/or goes and talks with some real human beings on this Sunday morning/afternoon/night ...
Only one may have had a male role model but every single one of them had access to and used guns. Only one common denominator. And then it isn’t guns, it’s knives. Then when knives are banned it’s acid. Sound familiar? Where there is a will there is a way. Franklin said “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” That’s exactly where we’re headed giving up our rights over fears. If Hitler did not have the right to freedom of speech, he wouldn’t have had the opportunity to rise to power. Should we do away with that too? ... Godwins Law has been enacted ... you have therefore lost the complete argument ... ... can I suggest that everyone has a cup of tea ... and/or goes and talks with some real human beings on this Sunday morning/afternoon/night ... |
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Donald Trump, by Leo Boyd on Nov 11, 2018 19:08:03 GMT 1, I blame Bill Clinton
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Donald Trump, by Carl Cashman on Nov 11, 2018 20:01:19 GMT 1, That's a mute point. If the las Vegas 'shooter' had a knife, would he have been able to kill 50 people and injure nearly 1000 people ?. Yes we have knife attacks and the odd acid attack ... but there isn't a weekly acid massacre !. There needs to be some kind of licence for guns, I can't drive a car unless I've taken a test... why is it not the same? As for the Hitler reference.... The most recent shooting in California was commited by a mentally ill veteran who owned his weapon legally via a permit. The police had interacted with him many times previously and had the ability to confiscate his weapons if he were deemed to be a risk to himself or others. The laws were on the books to prevent what happened but those responsible failed to act. More laws to ‘prevent’ things like this won’t help when current laws designed to do such aren’t preventing it either.
In a nation where there are more guns than people, it's completely impossible to outright ban them at this point any way, even if they wanted to.
That's a mute point. If the las Vegas 'shooter' had a knife, would he have been able to kill 50 people and injure nearly 1000 people ?. Yes we have knife attacks and the odd acid attack ... but there isn't a weekly acid massacre !. There needs to be some kind of licence for guns, I can't drive a car unless I've taken a test... why is it not the same? As for the Hitler reference.... The most recent shooting in California was commited by a mentally ill veteran who owned his weapon legally via a permit. The police had interacted with him many times previously and had the ability to confiscate his weapons if he were deemed to be a risk to himself or others. The laws were on the books to prevent what happened but those responsible failed to act. More laws to ‘prevent’ things like this won’t help when current laws designed to do such aren’t preventing it either. Maybe the checks need to change ? Maybe a mentally unwell person should have there permit blocked while undergoing treatment. In a nation where there are more guns than people, it's completely impossible to outright ban them at this point any way, even if they wanted to. |
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Donald Trump, by irl1 on Nov 11, 2018 20:28:07 GMT 1, Yeh Leo, he does everything under the table 
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Donald Trump, by Masong on Nov 11, 2018 20:50:26 GMT 1, Yeh Leo, he does everything under the table
We’ll have less of that irl1. All humour is banned from this thread and the brexit one
Yeh Leo, he does everything under the table We’ll have less of that irl1. All humour is banned from this thread and the brexit one |
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Donald Trump, by irl1 on Nov 11, 2018 21:18:41 GMT 1, I blame masong 
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Donald Trump, by NYart on Nov 11, 2018 21:49:24 GMT 1, The most recent shooting in California was commited by a mentally ill veteran who owned his weapon legally via a permit. The police had interacted with him many times previously and had the ability to confiscate his weapons if he were deemed to be a risk to himself or others. The laws were on the books to prevent what happened but those responsible failed to act. More laws to ‘prevent’ things like this won’t help when current laws designed to do such aren’t preventing it either. Maybe the checks need to change ? Maybe a mentally unwell person should have there permit blocked while undergoing treatment. In a nation where there are more guns than people, it's completely impossible to outright ban them at this point any way, even if they wanted to.
From my understanding he had his weapons prior to his illness, so it’s not the checks that failed, but law enforcement not removing them from his possession when they had the power to do so.
But yeah, those pushing to ban guns, or specific types are wasting their energy. If they redirect it towards promoting mental health treatment, and enforcement of existing laws, maybe some positive change can come about. The best part with that too is it’s not nearly as partisan of an issue so it’s something that could potentially get accomplished.
The most recent shooting in California was commited by a mentally ill veteran who owned his weapon legally via a permit. The police had interacted with him many times previously and had the ability to confiscate his weapons if he were deemed to be a risk to himself or others. The laws were on the books to prevent what happened but those responsible failed to act. More laws to ‘prevent’ things like this won’t help when current laws designed to do such aren’t preventing it either. Maybe the checks need to change ? Maybe a mentally unwell person should have there permit blocked while undergoing treatment. In a nation where there are more guns than people, it's completely impossible to outright ban them at this point any way, even if they wanted to. From my understanding he had his weapons prior to his illness, so it’s not the checks that failed, but law enforcement not removing them from his possession when they had the power to do so. But yeah, those pushing to ban guns, or specific types are wasting their energy. If they redirect it towards promoting mental health treatment, and enforcement of existing laws, maybe some positive change can come about. The best part with that too is it’s not nearly as partisan of an issue so it’s something that could potentially get accomplished. |
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 13, 2018 12:54:40 GMT 1, Given how much hate there is for Trump in the mainstream lefty media, wouldn't you think that if he actually did something like this (and the woman in question did not give consent) there would be heaps of woman talking on CNN about how Trump grabbed them inappropriately? In the #metoo era? Wouldn't you think lots of women would have posted on Twitter about how Trump then and then did this en that? I can assure you that reporters all over the lefty media have called each and every one of every woman Trump has ever met with, begging them to share stories about the 'sex pest' Trump is. But there's nothing. What does that tell you? Nothing? Here's a few names of a few women who've shared their stories. I don't think they were begged to. Fair enough it might only be reported in the left leaning media, but I think that says more about the right trying to pretend that there isn't an issue. There is. Jessica Leeds Ivana Trump Kristin Anderson Jill Harth Lisa Boyne Mariah Billado Victoria Hughes Temple Taggart Cathy Heller Karena Virginia Tasha Dixon Bridget Sullivan Melinda McGillivray Natasha Stoynoff Jennifer Murphy Juliet Huddy Rachel Crooks Samantha Holvey Ninni Laaksonen Jessica Drake Summer Zervos and Cassandra Searles
Ignore women who have been abused by certain high profile people or do not ignore the women.
Clinton is mentioned because his wife stood for President and Bill Clinton played a public part of her campaign.
People say yes but what he did was years ago. The allegations are from years ago and a leapord does not change his spots so who knows what randy Bill has been up to recently.
The allegations against Trump are from years ago too.
When did the women make official police complaints against Clinton or Trump ?
Given how much hate there is for Trump in the mainstream lefty media, wouldn't you think that if he actually did something like this (and the woman in question did not give consent) there would be heaps of woman talking on CNN about how Trump grabbed them inappropriately? In the #metoo era? Wouldn't you think lots of women would have posted on Twitter about how Trump then and then did this en that? I can assure you that reporters all over the lefty media have called each and every one of every woman Trump has ever met with, begging them to share stories about the 'sex pest' Trump is. But there's nothing. What does that tell you? Nothing? Here's a few names of a few women who've shared their stories. I don't think they were begged to. Fair enough it might only be reported in the left leaning media, but I think that says more about the right trying to pretend that there isn't an issue. There is. Jessica Leeds Ivana Trump Kristin Anderson Jill Harth Lisa Boyne Mariah Billado Victoria Hughes Temple Taggart Cathy Heller Karena Virginia Tasha Dixon Bridget Sullivan Melinda McGillivray Natasha Stoynoff Jennifer Murphy Juliet Huddy Rachel Crooks Samantha Holvey Ninni Laaksonen Jessica Drake Summer Zervos and Cassandra Searles
It's like anything the media uses for political advantage these days. Ignore women who have been abused by certain high profile people or do not ignore the women. Clinton is mentioned because his wife stood for President and Bill Clinton played a public part of her campaign. People say yes but what he did was years ago. The allegations are from years ago and a leapord does not change his spots so who knows what randy Bill has been up to recently. The allegations against Trump are from years ago too. When did the women make official police complaints against Clinton or Trump ? |
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 13, 2018 13:00:55 GMT 1, The only people who talk like being an educated liberal on the left side of the aisle is a bad thing are a couple of shallow-minded simpletons who won't listen to anything that doesn't fit their world view of walls, whites and women in the kitchen. Speaking of gang rapes by Muslim immigrants in Seville... I mean, Jesus C Christ moron, nice segue after pulling a Hannity in defense of Dump that was an absolute lie. Or... I would think because I was reading at work that... Fvckin' laughable.
Speaking of gang rapes by illegal immigrants let into europe with no vetting is better than ignoring the problem. Unless of course you believe that "white" women deserve to be raped by "muslims" who see them as whores or by these so called immigrants who have no decency towards others because their backward cultural values say that women should stay in the kitchen and should wear a black bag when they go outside.
Just as the problem of gun mass shootings in the US is something that has to be addressed and prevented. The problem of these criminals who have entered europe has to be addressed too and the solution is to not let them enter europe and also to kick out the ones who commit any crime.
You can give them your money and you can pay their rent but as far as i'm concerned they are freeloaders and have no respect for europeans or european culture.
The only people who talk like being an educated liberal on the left side of the aisle is a bad thing are a couple of shallow-minded simpletons who won't listen to anything that doesn't fit their world view of walls, whites and women in the kitchen. Speaking of gang rapes by Muslim immigrants in Seville... I mean, Jesus C Christ moron, nice segue after pulling a Hannity in defense of Dump that was an absolute lie. Or... I would think because I was reading at work that... Fvckin' laughable. In between writing bolloks you generalise a lot. "whites and women in the kitchen" indeed; Speaking of gang rapes by illegal immigrants let into europe with no vetting is better than ignoring the problem. Unless of course you believe that "white" women deserve to be raped by "muslims" who see them as whores or by these so called immigrants who have no decency towards others because their backward cultural values say that women should stay in the kitchen and should wear a black bag when they go outside. Just as the problem of gun mass shootings in the US is something that has to be addressed and prevented. The problem of these criminals who have entered europe has to be addressed too and the solution is to not let them enter europe and also to kick out the ones who commit any crime. You can give them your money and you can pay their rent but as far as i'm concerned they are freeloaders and have no respect for europeans or european culture. |
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Donald Trump, by .dappy on Nov 18, 2018 13:59:54 GMT 1, ... I'm out raking the leaves in my backyard ...
... keep safe people ...🙏
... I'm out raking the leaves in my backyard ...
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Donald Trump, by Chris JL on Nov 18, 2018 15:25:09 GMT 1, The only people who talk like being an educated liberal on the left side of the aisle is a bad thing are a couple of shallow-minded simpletons who won't listen to anything that doesn't fit their world view of walls, whites and women in the kitchen. Speaking of gang rapes by Muslim immigrants in Seville... I mean, Jesus C Christ moron, nice segue after pulling a Hannity in defense of Dump that was an absolute lie. Or... I would think because I was reading at work that... Fvckin' laughable. In between writing bolloks you generalise a lot. "whites and women in the kitchen" indeed; Speaking of gang rapes by illegal immigrants let into europe with no vetting is better than ignoring the problem. Unless of course you believe that "white" women deserve to be raped by "muslims" who see them as whores or by these so called immigrants who have no decency towards others because their backward cultural values say that women should stay in the kitchen and should wear a black bag when they go outside. Just as the problem of gun mass shootings in the US is something that has to be addressed and prevented. The problem of these criminals who have entered europe has to be addressed too and the solution is to not let them enter europe and also to kick out the ones who commit any crime. You can give them your money and you can pay their rent but as far as i'm concerned they are freeloaders and have no respect for europeans or european culture.
You are just a racist plain and simple, otherwise you would not be peddling these blatant lies: in the numbers, immigrants (legal and illegal) do commit LESS crime than non immigrants (and for an obvious reason: fear), including homicides and sexually related crimes (and, btw, the overwhelmingly majority of the rapist of white women are their white male partners and relatives).
I can cite you several dozens peer reviewed papers debunking your xenophobic lies.
E.g.: doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2005.01.001
And a survey: www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/S1521-6136%282009%290000013004
Shame on you, racist liar.
The only people who talk like being an educated liberal on the left side of the aisle is a bad thing are a couple of shallow-minded simpletons who won't listen to anything that doesn't fit their world view of walls, whites and women in the kitchen. Speaking of gang rapes by Muslim immigrants in Seville... I mean, Jesus C Christ moron, nice segue after pulling a Hannity in defense of Dump that was an absolute lie. Or... I would think because I was reading at work that... Fvckin' laughable. In between writing bolloks you generalise a lot. "whites and women in the kitchen" indeed; Speaking of gang rapes by illegal immigrants let into europe with no vetting is better than ignoring the problem. Unless of course you believe that "white" women deserve to be raped by "muslims" who see them as whores or by these so called immigrants who have no decency towards others because their backward cultural values say that women should stay in the kitchen and should wear a black bag when they go outside. Just as the problem of gun mass shootings in the US is something that has to be addressed and prevented. The problem of these criminals who have entered europe has to be addressed too and the solution is to not let them enter europe and also to kick out the ones who commit any crime. You can give them your money and you can pay their rent but as far as i'm concerned they are freeloaders and have no respect for europeans or european culture. You are just a racist plain and simple, otherwise you would not be peddling these blatant lies: in the numbers, immigrants (legal and illegal) do commit LESS crime than non immigrants (and for an obvious reason: fear), including homicides and sexually related crimes (and, btw, the overwhelmingly majority of the rapist of white women are their white male partners and relatives). I can cite you several dozens peer reviewed papers debunking your xenophobic lies. E.g.: doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2005.01.001And a survey: www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/S1521-6136%282009%290000013004Shame on you, racist liar. |
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Donald Trump, by mojo on Nov 18, 2018 16:11:49 GMT 1, ... I'm out raking the leaves in my backyard ... ... keep safe people ...🙏
... I'm out raking the leaves in my backyard ... ... keep safe people ...🙏 Well done for using a rake instead of one of those nasty bastard leaf blowers. Utterly useless noisy and fills the air with toxics**t .....not so dissimilar to Trump. |
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 17:58:36 GMT 1, In between writing bolloks you generalise a lot. "whites and women in the kitchen" indeed; Speaking of gang rapes by illegal immigrants let into europe with no vetting is better than ignoring the problem. Unless of course you believe that "white" women deserve to be raped by "muslims" who see them as whores or by these so called immigrants who have no decency towards others because their backward cultural values say that women should stay in the kitchen and should wear a black bag when they go outside. Just as the problem of gun mass shootings in the US is something that has to be addressed and prevented. The problem of these criminals who have entered europe has to be addressed too and the solution is to not let them enter europe and also to kick out the ones who commit any crime. You can give them your money and you can pay their rent but as far as i'm concerned they are freeloaders and have no respect for europeans or european culture. You are just a racist plain and simple, otherwise you would not be peddling these blatant lies: in the numbers, immigrants (legal and illegal) do commit LESS crime than non immigrants (and for an obvious reason: fear), including homicides and sexually related crimes (and, btw, the overwhelmingly majority of the rapist of white women are their white male partners and relatives). I can cite you several dozens peer reviewed papers debunking your xenophobic lies. E.g.: doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2005.01.001And a survey: www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/S1521-6136%282009%290000013004Shame on you, racist liar. 
In between writing bolloks you generalise a lot. "whites and women in the kitchen" indeed; Speaking of gang rapes by illegal immigrants let into europe with no vetting is better than ignoring the problem. Unless of course you believe that "white" women deserve to be raped by "muslims" who see them as whores or by these so called immigrants who have no decency towards others because their backward cultural values say that women should stay in the kitchen and should wear a black bag when they go outside. Just as the problem of gun mass shootings in the US is something that has to be addressed and prevented. The problem of these criminals who have entered europe has to be addressed too and the solution is to not let them enter europe and also to kick out the ones who commit any crime. You can give them your money and you can pay their rent but as far as i'm concerned they are freeloaders and have no respect for europeans or european culture. You are just a racist plain and simple, otherwise you would not be peddling these blatant lies: in the numbers, immigrants (legal and illegal) do commit LESS crime than non immigrants (and for an obvious reason: fear), including homicides and sexually related crimes (and, btw, the overwhelmingly majority of the rapist of white women are their white male partners and relatives). I can cite you several dozens peer reviewed papers debunking your xenophobic lies. E.g.: doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2005.01.001And a survey: www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/S1521-6136%282009%290000013004Shame on you, racist liar. |
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 18, 2018 18:44:41 GMT 1, You are just a racist plain and simple, otherwise you would not be peddling these blatant lies: in the numbers, immigrants (legal and illegal) do commit LESS crime than non immigrants (and for an obvious reason: fear), including homicides and sexually related crimes (and, btw, the overwhelmingly majority of the rapist of white women are their white male partners and relatives). I can cite you several dozens peer reviewed papers debunking your xenophobic lies. E.g.: doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2005.01.001And a survey: www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/S1521-6136%282009%290000013004Shame on you, racist liar.
You would've been better off with a counter argument, that perhaps included some stats as a result of independent/academic research, into the issue. As it is your post just compounds a sense of ignorance
You are just a racist plain and simple, otherwise you would not be peddling these blatant lies: in the numbers, immigrants (legal and illegal) do commit LESS crime than non immigrants (and for an obvious reason: fear), including homicides and sexually related crimes (and, btw, the overwhelmingly majority of the rapist of white women are their white male partners and relatives). I can cite you several dozens peer reviewed papers debunking your xenophobic lies. E.g.: doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2005.01.001And a survey: www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/S1521-6136%282009%290000013004Shame on you, racist liar. You would've been better off with a counter argument, that perhaps included some stats as a result of independent/academic research, into the issue. As it is your post just compounds a sense of ignorance |
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 19:02:42 GMT 1, You would've been better off with a counter argument, that perhaps included some stats as a result of independent/academic research, into the issue. As it is your post just compounds a sense of ignorance
You would've been better off with a counter argument, that perhaps included some stats as a result of independent/academic research, into the issue. As it is your post just compounds a sense of ignorance Standing rule: Don't debate people that call you and others random slurs. |
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Donald Trump, by Daylight Robber on Nov 18, 2018 19:45:12 GMT 1, You would've been better off with a counter argument, that perhaps included some stats as a result of independent/academic research, into the issue. As it is your post just compounds a sense of ignorance Standing rule: Don't debate people that call you and others random slurs.
Wasn't random though was it? It was a summary of an evidence based argument Vs an opinion.
You would've been better off with a counter argument, that perhaps included some stats as a result of independent/academic research, into the issue. As it is your post just compounds a sense of ignorance Standing rule: Don't debate people that call you and others random slurs. Wasn't random though was it? It was a summary of an evidence based argument Vs an opinion. |
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Donald Trump, by amsterdam9697 on Nov 18, 2018 22:32:52 GMT 1, How ironic. There's a line apparently. You should heed your own advice.
How ironic. There's a line apparently. You should heed your own advice.
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Donald Trump, by Dive Jedi on Nov 18, 2018 22:45:57 GMT 1, WTF ?!
Posting nazi propaganda now ?
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 22:46:35 GMT 1, Standing rule: Don't debate people that call you and others random slurs. Wasn't random though was it? It was a summary of an evidence based argument Vs an opinion.
Something to live by for everyone confronted with extremism on both sides of the aisle. Whether an antifa thug calls you a nazi or a sad white supremacist calls you a fucking jew, they are wrong. Just ignore the person and move on. They are not worth your time.
Standing rule: Don't debate people that call you and others random slurs. Wasn't random though was it? It was a summary of an evidence based argument Vs an opinion. While the comment wasn't directed at me but at user 'moron', when someone calls me a racist, it's not up to me to prove why they are wrong. I'm not a racist. I hate racists. So when someone calls me a racist, I call them an asshole for calling me something I'm not, and I move on. Something to live by for everyone confronted with extremism on both sides of the aisle. Whether an antifa thug calls you a nazi or a sad white supremacist calls you a fucking jew, they are wrong. Just ignore the person and move on. They are not worth your time. |
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 22:47:41 GMT 1, How ironic. 
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Donald Trump, by blerd on Nov 18, 2018 22:51:47 GMT 1, yeah trying my best to avoid/ignore all this hateful racist shit, but its getting difficult. I just want to talk about Art!?! WTF.
yeah trying my best to avoid/ignore all this hateful racist shit, but its getting difficult. I just want to talk about Art!?! WTF. |
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 18, 2018 23:57:48 GMT 1, In between writing bolloks you generalise a lot. "whites and women in the kitchen" indeed; Speaking of gang rapes by illegal immigrants let into europe with no vetting is better than ignoring the problem. Unless of course you believe that "white" women deserve to be raped by "muslims" who see them as whores or by these so called immigrants who have no decency towards others because their backward cultural values say that women should stay in the kitchen and should wear a black bag when they go outside. Just as the problem of gun mass shootings in the US is something that has to be addressed and prevented. The problem of these criminals who have entered europe has to be addressed too and the solution is to not let them enter europe and also to kick out the ones who commit any crime. You can give them your money and you can pay their rent but as far as i'm concerned they are freeloaders and have no respect for europeans or european culture. You are just a racist plain and simple, otherwise you would not be peddling these blatant lies: in the numbers, immigrants (legal and illegal) do commit LESS crime than non immigrants (and for an obvious reason: fear), including homicides and sexually related crimes (and, btw, the overwhelmingly majority of the rapist of white women are their white male partners and relatives). I can cite you several dozens peer reviewed papers debunking your xenophobic lies. E.g.: doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2005.01.001And a survey: www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/S1521-6136%282009%290000013004Shame on you, racist liar.
Which is very different to Europe and Sweden and Norway and Germany which has had huge numbers of migrants allowed in with no vetting and which the majority approx 80% are young men.
Immigrants into the US are not the same type of immigrants that have been allowed into europe.
The violent attacks by immigrants in Germany Sweden France Italy against people include terror related attacks and include rapes and gang rapes.
For the percentage of the population in countries like Sweden etc. It is a fact that these recent immigrants percentage wise commit a far greater number of rapes than do their white male counterparts.
and the reason I have written "white male" is because you referenced white males in your response.
I have no problem with immigrants from any country and peoples skin color make no difference to me.
Peoples attitude towards others and their accepting equality for all including women as equal to men and democracy as in western style democracy and them living by it and accepting it is what matters.
You and other so called democrats and liberals are the biggest hypocrits. You virtue signal to score points and you do not care how many criminals are let into a country and the crimes they commit because you have an obsession about white males being the bad guys instead of seeing people as they really are.
Too many criminals have been let into Europe by the likes of Merkel who welcomed them in and also the lunatic left wing marxist Swedish feminist government and they soon found out that they made a huge mistake. Too many attacks by "mentally ill" if one believes the media and also the ethnicities of the rapists and attackers is covered up by the mainstream media and also is not revealed in official government statistics.
The likes of Soros who funds the left and also some NGO's and migrant ships is partly to blame for people being killed or raped by migrants who were allowed in with no vetting.
How many of these migrants are in full time work in Germany and Sweden? Show some stats for that.
Rather than deal with the problem caused by unvetted migrants, countries like Germany and Sweden etc decide to cover up the crimes and crime figures because it is easier.
Comparing white men to these unvetted migrants. The EU has free movement of people from all over europe into other countries in the EU. If say one compared a million european males who moved to live and work in another EU country to a million of Merkels unvetted migrants from north Africa and other parts of the world where they all seem to share certain cultural values. We all know that the rape figures comparing a million European males to Merkels migrants will show that percentage wise the unvetted migrants welcomed by Merkel, the stats for rape and violent crime will be massively disproportianate and that Merkels migrants responsible for the higher number of rapes and violent attacks.
So yes. It is cultural values and it is a problem regarding males from certain cultures and how they view others and also the fact that they form a ort of gang culture as well in every neighbourhood they move to.
There is nothing wrong with allowing in migrants from any country who are vetted and who want to work but opening the doors to a country and encouraging anyone with the offer of free money and free housing is detrimental in the long term. The proof is there for everyone to see. Sweden a safe country where there was very little crime and women could go out alone day and night are now told to only go out in groups by the police.
The UK has it's fair share of problems with people who refuse to integrate unless it's collecting benefits or other privileges and create their own cultural values in some areas that they live.
The percentage of the population as to ethnicity in UK regarding the type of people who have been committing gang rapes of underage girls shows a very big problem by certain sections of the "asian" community. Asian is the word used by the PC brigade, mainly the left and the Labour party because they do not want people to use the correct words because they do not want to lose votes from this section of the community.
One reason it is a huge problem in the UK is because the Labour Party, Local council and local police colluded with the criminals and also helped to cover it up. Otherwise the statistics and people convicted would be far higher. The victims are mostly white girls and it seems that to some liberals and marxists, votes are more important than protecting people from crime. It's the same in Sweden and the same in Germany where the politicians in power believed that by importing millions of migrants, that these migrants will outnumber and out vote the local population.
Tony Blair and Mandelson did it in the UK and it is happening across europe.
Racism is allowing in millions of unvetted migrants in order to dissolve the culture of the local population and also to ignore the crimes they commit against the local population in order to gain votes from migrants and to stay in power.
By the way that is what crooked Hillary and the Democrats planned to do in the US and their agenda to allow undocumented migrants (illegal immigrants) to vote in US elections, in sanctuary cities to begin with shows the real insanity of these liberals.
The more these marxists get away with the more laws will be enforced making free speech and the truth illegal.
What is happening in the US with the migrant caravan is linked to what is going on in Europe.
wjla.com/news/inside-your-world/crime-stats-show-increase-in-violence-against-women-in-sweden-after-refugee-crisis
In 2018, Swedish Television investigative journalism show Uppdrag Granskning analysed the total of 843 district court cases from the five preceding years and found that 58% of all convicted of rape had a foreign background and 40% were born in the Middle East and Africa, with young men from Afghanistan numbering 45 stood out as being the most next most common country of birth after Sweden. When only analysing rape assault (Swedish: överfallsvåldtäkt) cases, that is cases where perpetrator and victim were not previously acquainted, 97 out of 129 were born outside Europe.[12][27] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#Birthplace_of_perpetrators
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45269764
Sweden’s immigrants struggle with jobs and integration
www.ft.com/content/838d60c2-0961-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b
www.wnd.com/2017/04/berkeley-riot-organizers-tied-to-pro-pedophilia-nambla/
alledgedly funded by Soros.
In between writing bolloks you generalise a lot. "whites and women in the kitchen" indeed; Speaking of gang rapes by illegal immigrants let into europe with no vetting is better than ignoring the problem. Unless of course you believe that "white" women deserve to be raped by "muslims" who see them as whores or by these so called immigrants who have no decency towards others because their backward cultural values say that women should stay in the kitchen and should wear a black bag when they go outside. Just as the problem of gun mass shootings in the US is something that has to be addressed and prevented. The problem of these criminals who have entered europe has to be addressed too and the solution is to not let them enter europe and also to kick out the ones who commit any crime. You can give them your money and you can pay their rent but as far as i'm concerned they are freeloaders and have no respect for europeans or european culture. You are just a racist plain and simple, otherwise you would not be peddling these blatant lies: in the numbers, immigrants (legal and illegal) do commit LESS crime than non immigrants (and for an obvious reason: fear), including homicides and sexually related crimes (and, btw, the overwhelmingly majority of the rapist of white women are their white male partners and relatives). I can cite you several dozens peer reviewed papers debunking your xenophobic lies. E.g.: doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2005.01.001And a survey: www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/S1521-6136%282009%290000013004Shame on you, racist liar. Your links are for the US. Which is very different to Europe and Sweden and Norway and Germany which has had huge numbers of migrants allowed in with no vetting and which the majority approx 80% are young men. Immigrants into the US are not the same type of immigrants that have been allowed into europe. The violent attacks by immigrants in Germany Sweden France Italy against people include terror related attacks and include rapes and gang rapes. For the percentage of the population in countries like Sweden etc. It is a fact that these recent immigrants percentage wise commit a far greater number of rapes than do their white male counterparts. and the reason I have written "white male" is because you referenced white males in your response. I have no problem with immigrants from any country and peoples skin color make no difference to me. Peoples attitude towards others and their accepting equality for all including women as equal to men and democracy as in western style democracy and them living by it and accepting it is what matters. You and other so called democrats and liberals are the biggest hypocrits. You virtue signal to score points and you do not care how many criminals are let into a country and the crimes they commit because you have an obsession about white males being the bad guys instead of seeing people as they really are. Too many criminals have been let into Europe by the likes of Merkel who welcomed them in and also the lunatic left wing marxist Swedish feminist government and they soon found out that they made a huge mistake. Too many attacks by "mentally ill" if one believes the media and also the ethnicities of the rapists and attackers is covered up by the mainstream media and also is not revealed in official government statistics. The likes of Soros who funds the left and also some NGO's and migrant ships is partly to blame for people being killed or raped by migrants who were allowed in with no vetting. How many of these migrants are in full time work in Germany and Sweden? Show some stats for that. Rather than deal with the problem caused by unvetted migrants, countries like Germany and Sweden etc decide to cover up the crimes and crime figures because it is easier. Comparing white men to these unvetted migrants. The EU has free movement of people from all over europe into other countries in the EU. If say one compared a million european males who moved to live and work in another EU country to a million of Merkels unvetted migrants from north Africa and other parts of the world where they all seem to share certain cultural values. We all know that the rape figures comparing a million European males to Merkels migrants will show that percentage wise the unvetted migrants welcomed by Merkel, the stats for rape and violent crime will be massively disproportianate and that Merkels migrants responsible for the higher number of rapes and violent attacks. So yes. It is cultural values and it is a problem regarding males from certain cultures and how they view others and also the fact that they form a ort of gang culture as well in every neighbourhood they move to. There is nothing wrong with allowing in migrants from any country who are vetted and who want to work but opening the doors to a country and encouraging anyone with the offer of free money and free housing is detrimental in the long term. The proof is there for everyone to see. Sweden a safe country where there was very little crime and women could go out alone day and night are now told to only go out in groups by the police. The UK has it's fair share of problems with people who refuse to integrate unless it's collecting benefits or other privileges and create their own cultural values in some areas that they live. The percentage of the population as to ethnicity in UK regarding the type of people who have been committing gang rapes of underage girls shows a very big problem by certain sections of the "asian" community. Asian is the word used by the PC brigade, mainly the left and the Labour party because they do not want people to use the correct words because they do not want to lose votes from this section of the community. One reason it is a huge problem in the UK is because the Labour Party, Local council and local police colluded with the criminals and also helped to cover it up. Otherwise the statistics and people convicted would be far higher. The victims are mostly white girls and it seems that to some liberals and marxists, votes are more important than protecting people from crime. It's the same in Sweden and the same in Germany where the politicians in power believed that by importing millions of migrants, that these migrants will outnumber and out vote the local population. Tony Blair and Mandelson did it in the UK and it is happening across europe. Racism is allowing in millions of unvetted migrants in order to dissolve the culture of the local population and also to ignore the crimes they commit against the local population in order to gain votes from migrants and to stay in power. By the way that is what crooked Hillary and the Democrats planned to do in the US and their agenda to allow undocumented migrants (illegal immigrants) to vote in US elections, in sanctuary cities to begin with shows the real insanity of these liberals. The more these marxists get away with the more laws will be enforced making free speech and the truth illegal. What is happening in the US with the migrant caravan is linked to what is going on in Europe. wjla.com/news/inside-your-world/crime-stats-show-increase-in-violence-against-women-in-sweden-after-refugee-crisisIn 2018, Swedish Television investigative journalism show Uppdrag Granskning analysed the total of 843 district court cases from the five preceding years and found that 58% of all convicted of rape had a foreign background and 40% were born in the Middle East and Africa, with young men from Afghanistan numbering 45 stood out as being the most next most common country of birth after Sweden. When only analysing rape assault (Swedish: överfallsvåldtäkt) cases, that is cases where perpetrator and victim were not previously acquainted, 97 out of 129 were born outside Europe.[12][27] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#Birthplace_of_perpetrators
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45269764
Sweden’s immigrants struggle with jobs and integration
www.ft.com/content/838d60c2-0961-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b
www.wnd.com/2017/04/berkeley-riot-organizers-tied-to-pro-pedophilia-nambla/
alledgedly funded by Soros.
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Donald Trump, by amsterdam9697 on Nov 19, 2018 0:01:48 GMT 1, God, now we're posting links about NAMBLA. And more conspiracy chit about Soros. You are a moron.
God, now we're posting links about NAMBLA. And more conspiracy chit about Soros. You are a moron.
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 19, 2018 0:03:01 GMT 1, The most recent shooting in California was commited by a mentally ill veteran who owned his weapon legally via a permit. The police had interacted with him many times previously and had the ability to confiscate his weapons if he were deemed to be a risk to himself or others. The laws were on the books to prevent what happened but those responsible failed to act. More laws to ‘prevent’ things like this won’t help when current laws designed to do such aren’t preventing it either. Maybe the checks need to change ? Maybe a mentally unwell person should have there permit blocked while undergoing treatment. In a nation where there are more guns than people, it's completely impossible to outright ban them at this point any way, even if they wanted to.
I had a gun an automatic pistol pulled on me by a neighbour, a nasty drug user. Told the police and they were not remotely interested in the fact he had an illegal handgun. There again the guy was a police informer.
The most recent shooting in California was commited by a mentally ill veteran who owned his weapon legally via a permit. The police had interacted with him many times previously and had the ability to confiscate his weapons if he were deemed to be a risk to himself or others. The laws were on the books to prevent what happened but those responsible failed to act. More laws to ‘prevent’ things like this won’t help when current laws designed to do such aren’t preventing it either. Maybe the checks need to change ? Maybe a mentally unwell person should have there permit blocked while undergoing treatment. In a nation where there are more guns than people, it's completely impossible to outright ban them at this point any way, even if they wanted to. There is probably some law where the police are not allowed to access the persons medical file without a court order and if the person ha snot committed any crime at that point, if they confiscate his guns and ammo he could sue the police etc etc. If he had not threatened anyone with violence at least. I had a gun an automatic pistol pulled on me by a neighbour, a nasty drug user. Told the police and they were not remotely interested in the fact he had an illegal handgun. There again the guy was a police informer. |
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 19, 2018 0:18:27 GMT 1, how do you feel about the muslim child rapists in the uk that did far graver acts ? dont hear you banging on about that. tell me How do you feel about child rapists with religious beliefs other than muslim, Pysgod?
Presumably you're ok with them, as we don't hear you banging on about them.
You criticise a lot and that's about it.
how do you feel about the muslim child rapists in the uk that did far graver acts ? dont hear you banging on about that. tell me How do you feel about child rapists with religious beliefs other than muslim, Pysgod?
Presumably you're ok with them, as we don't hear you banging on about them.
How do you feel about it? You criticise a lot and that's about it. |
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 19, 2018 0:25:36 GMT 1, Wasn't random though was it? It was a summary of an evidence based argument Vs an opinion. While the comment wasn't directed at me but at user 'moron', when someone calls me a racist, it's not up to me to prove why they are wrong. I'm not a racist. I hate racists. So when someone calls me a racist, I call them an asshole for calling me something I'm not, and I move on. Something to live by for everyone confronted with extremism on both sides of the aisle. Whether an antifa thug calls you a nazi or a sad white supremacist calls you a f**kingjew, they are wrong. Just ignore the person and move on. They are not worth your time.
A classic example is that womens feminism march which had one female murderer on the platform and Linda Cockroach, telling women that wearing a hijab is a show of support for womens rights and feminism.
Fairey milked it for all the publicity he could get.
While real feminists and men who support womens rights, support the women in Iran who are protesting against being forced to wear the hijab and protesting inequality, child marriage and poverty force dupon them by old men with beards who align themselves with western communists and marxists. Corbyn takes their money and the disgusting individual laid a wreath at the British Rememberance day ceremony.
Wasn't random though was it? It was a summary of an evidence based argument Vs an opinion. While the comment wasn't directed at me but at user 'moron', when someone calls me a racist, it's not up to me to prove why they are wrong. I'm not a racist. I hate racists. So when someone calls me a racist, I call them an asshole for calling me something I'm not, and I move on. Something to live by for everyone confronted with extremism on both sides of the aisle. Whether an antifa thug calls you a nazi or a sad white supremacist calls you a f**kingjew, they are wrong. Just ignore the person and move on. They are not worth your time. Usually it's so called left wing virtue signallers who resort to calling people racists. A classic example is that womens feminism march which had one female murderer on the platform and Linda Cockroach, telling women that wearing a hijab is a show of support for womens rights and feminism. Fairey milked it for all the publicity he could get. While real feminists and men who support womens rights, support the women in Iran who are protesting against being forced to wear the hijab and protesting inequality, child marriage and poverty force dupon them by old men with beards who align themselves with western communists and marxists. Corbyn takes their money and the disgusting individual laid a wreath at the British Rememberance day ceremony. |
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Donald Trump, by moron on Nov 19, 2018 0:40:40 GMT 1, Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!!
Mental health , medications, programming by movies, media etc could be a factor where an individual becomes detached from society.
I don't know if there is a long slow build up to a mass shooting or whether someone who has access to a gun just flips out and goes on the rampage.
In some cases the shooting was planned or thought about for a long time including years.
There again look at the arms trade and the collatoral damage and mass deaths by British and other countries produced arms.
Cluster bombs and land mines and other stuff all produced and sold legally to any dictator with mental issues because it is good for the economy.
Coming with the slogans! Well done! Odd nobody wants to talk mental health and access To guns on here when the relationship to illness, Medications, and well publicized mass shootings is obvious and known. The elephant in the room though can be dismissed with just saying, hey! They are idiots!!! Not forgetting the drug culture and people on cocaine and other drugs that use guns. Mental health , medications, programming by movies, media etc could be a factor where an individual becomes detached from society. I don't know if there is a long slow build up to a mass shooting or whether someone who has access to a gun just flips out and goes on the rampage. In some cases the shooting was planned or thought about for a long time including years. There again look at the arms trade and the collatoral damage and mass deaths by British and other countries produced arms. Cluster bombs and land mines and other stuff all produced and sold legally to any dictator with mental issues because it is good for the economy. |
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