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Donald Trump, by NYart on Nov 9, 2016 22:31:22 GMT 1, I voted for Trump.
I didn't vote for who he is - a narcissist, billionaire, sexist. I also didn't vote for him in support of some of his "plans" like the Mexico wall, or the Muslim ban. I voted for him because of what he isn't and that is a career politician.
All of our problems in my opinion boils down to one thing, special interest money in politics. All the corporations throwing money at our politicians puts their interests above the American people and worlds best interest. Making us happy doesn't get them elected believe it or not. If their campaigns aren't funded and they don't have the resources to get their name out, they aren't going to have a job very long. Those that manage to keep their jobs have learned through their careers to play ball, and when a new congressmen does gets in pledging to "clean up Washington", he can't do it alone and will be out his next term.
Big moves need to be made to how our elections work in order to get our elected officials interests aligned with the public. A big start is removing the ability of corporations contributing to campaigns. Along with which significant term limits would go a long way to helping keep our candidates fresh and hopefully give more honest, real people a chance to make a positive impact.The problem is there's no motivation for any of them to ruin the good thing they have going. We need a person who doesn't have anything to lose by doing so, and Trump is the first whose come along in my lifetime who doesn't. Will he? Maybe not. But I know Clinton wouldn't.
Many of people's biggest fears about what Trump may or may not do are pretty unfounded. Is it realistic or possible to ban muslims outright? Not a chance. Build a wall across the border of Mexico? Nope. Can he increase background checks, screenings, and border patrol? Sure but that's not such a terrible thing. His biggest issue is he doesn't thing before he talks. However his success in business eases my concerns because he must put more thought into his actions before he makes them than his thought to his words. Think he is going to start World War III? Well the president can't declare war without congressional approval. Sure hypothetically he could instigate another country to the point where they make the first move, but if that's the case we have a country with a leader more dangerous than Trump.
I respect that others may feel what he has done and said as unfit for leadership of the free world, and to be honest I don't disagree. However I feel like he is the best chance we have of breaking that status quo and opening up the door to real progress. He's a narcissist billionaire, what does he have to gain from this? I think he's just seeking approval for his self esteem and that means he should be working for our interest, not the systems.
I think he's for the greater good.
I voted for Trump.
I didn't vote for who he is - a narcissist, billionaire, sexist. I also didn't vote for him in support of some of his "plans" like the Mexico wall, or the Muslim ban. I voted for him because of what he isn't and that is a career politician.
All of our problems in my opinion boils down to one thing, special interest money in politics. All the corporations throwing money at our politicians puts their interests above the American people and worlds best interest. Making us happy doesn't get them elected believe it or not. If their campaigns aren't funded and they don't have the resources to get their name out, they aren't going to have a job very long. Those that manage to keep their jobs have learned through their careers to play ball, and when a new congressmen does gets in pledging to "clean up Washington", he can't do it alone and will be out his next term.
Big moves need to be made to how our elections work in order to get our elected officials interests aligned with the public. A big start is removing the ability of corporations contributing to campaigns. Along with which significant term limits would go a long way to helping keep our candidates fresh and hopefully give more honest, real people a chance to make a positive impact.The problem is there's no motivation for any of them to ruin the good thing they have going. We need a person who doesn't have anything to lose by doing so, and Trump is the first whose come along in my lifetime who doesn't. Will he? Maybe not. But I know Clinton wouldn't.
Many of people's biggest fears about what Trump may or may not do are pretty unfounded. Is it realistic or possible to ban muslims outright? Not a chance. Build a wall across the border of Mexico? Nope. Can he increase background checks, screenings, and border patrol? Sure but that's not such a terrible thing. His biggest issue is he doesn't thing before he talks. However his success in business eases my concerns because he must put more thought into his actions before he makes them than his thought to his words. Think he is going to start World War III? Well the president can't declare war without congressional approval. Sure hypothetically he could instigate another country to the point where they make the first move, but if that's the case we have a country with a leader more dangerous than Trump.
I respect that others may feel what he has done and said as unfit for leadership of the free world, and to be honest I don't disagree. However I feel like he is the best chance we have of breaking that status quo and opening up the door to real progress. He's a narcissist billionaire, what does he have to gain from this? I think he's just seeking approval for his self esteem and that means he should be working for our interest, not the systems.
I think he's for the greater good.
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Donald Trump, by Dr Plip on Nov 9, 2016 22:34:47 GMT 1, Buy shares in orange spray paint, that's all I'm sayin'.
Buy shares in orange spray paint, that's all I'm sayin'.
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Donald Trump, by Dr Plip on Nov 9, 2016 22:35:45 GMT 1, I wonder if KAWS will make a toy?
I wonder if KAWS will make a toy?
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Donald Trump, by Dr Plip on Nov 9, 2016 22:43:47 GMT 1, I voted for Trump. I didn't vote for who he is - a narcissist, billionaire, sexist. I also didn't vote for him in support of some of his "plans" like the Mexico wall, or the Muslim ban. I voted for him because of what he isn't and that is a career politician. All of our problems in my opinion boils down to one thing, special interest money in politics. All the corporations throwing money at our politicians puts their interests above the American people and worlds best interest. Making us happy doesn't get them elected believe it or not. If their campaigns aren't funded and they don't have the resources to get their name out, they aren't going to have a job very long. Those that manage to keep their jobs have learned through their careers to play ball, and when a new congressmen does gets in pledging to "clean up Washington", he can't do it alone and will be out his next term. Big moves need to be made to how our elections work in order to get our elected officials interests aligned with the public. A big start is removing the ability of corporations contributing to campaigns. Along with which significant term limits would go a long way to helping keep our candidates fresh and hopefully give more honest, real people a chance to make a positive impact.The problem is there's no motivation for any of them to ruin the good thing they have going. We need a person who doesn't have anything to lose by doing so, and Trump is the first whose come along in my lifetime who doesn't. Will he? Maybe not. But I know Clinton wouldn't. Many of people's biggest fears about what Trump may or may not do are pretty unfounded. Is it realistic or possible to ban muslims outright? Not a chance. Build a wall across the border of Mexico? Nope. Can he increase background checks, screenings, and border patrol? Sure but that's not such a terrible thing. His biggest issue is he doesn't thing before he talks. However his success in business eases my concerns because he must put more thought into his actions before he makes them than his thought to his words. Think he is going to start World War III? Well the president can't declare war without congressional approval. Sure hypothetically he could instigate another country to the point where they make the first move, but if that's the case we have a country with a leader more dangerous than Trump. I respect that others may feel what he has done and said as unfit for leadership of the free world, and to be honest I don't disagree. However I feel like he is the best chance we have of breaking that status quo and opening up the door to real progress. He's a narcissist billionaire, what does he have to gain from this? I think he's just seeking approval for his self esteem and that means he should be working for our interest, not the systems. I think he's for the greater good. We've all had bad flights, but I wouldn't remove a qualified pilot because an enthusiastic amateur wants to have a go.
And Trump will be all about making money and screwing the environment.
Many people voted for Brexit in the UK because they were tired of the status quo and wanted to send a message to the establishment. Which is fine in principal, as long as your protest doesn't result in other people's lives becoming more difficult.
Also, endorsing ghastly people, whatever our reasons, sends a message to others. That could be sending the message that it's ok to be racist. Ok to be sexist. Ok to avoid paying taxes. Ok to run your businesses immorally. Ok to be fearful of others. Ok to hate.
I respect your commenting on here.
I voted for Trump. I didn't vote for who he is - a narcissist, billionaire, sexist. I also didn't vote for him in support of some of his "plans" like the Mexico wall, or the Muslim ban. I voted for him because of what he isn't and that is a career politician. All of our problems in my opinion boils down to one thing, special interest money in politics. All the corporations throwing money at our politicians puts their interests above the American people and worlds best interest. Making us happy doesn't get them elected believe it or not. If their campaigns aren't funded and they don't have the resources to get their name out, they aren't going to have a job very long. Those that manage to keep their jobs have learned through their careers to play ball, and when a new congressmen does gets in pledging to "clean up Washington", he can't do it alone and will be out his next term. Big moves need to be made to how our elections work in order to get our elected officials interests aligned with the public. A big start is removing the ability of corporations contributing to campaigns. Along with which significant term limits would go a long way to helping keep our candidates fresh and hopefully give more honest, real people a chance to make a positive impact.The problem is there's no motivation for any of them to ruin the good thing they have going. We need a person who doesn't have anything to lose by doing so, and Trump is the first whose come along in my lifetime who doesn't. Will he? Maybe not. But I know Clinton wouldn't. Many of people's biggest fears about what Trump may or may not do are pretty unfounded. Is it realistic or possible to ban muslims outright? Not a chance. Build a wall across the border of Mexico? Nope. Can he increase background checks, screenings, and border patrol? Sure but that's not such a terrible thing. His biggest issue is he doesn't thing before he talks. However his success in business eases my concerns because he must put more thought into his actions before he makes them than his thought to his words. Think he is going to start World War III? Well the president can't declare war without congressional approval. Sure hypothetically he could instigate another country to the point where they make the first move, but if that's the case we have a country with a leader more dangerous than Trump. I respect that others may feel what he has done and said as unfit for leadership of the free world, and to be honest I don't disagree. However I feel like he is the best chance we have of breaking that status quo and opening up the door to real progress. He's a narcissist billionaire, what does he have to gain from this? I think he's just seeking approval for his self esteem and that means he should be working for our interest, not the systems. I think he's for the greater good. We've all had bad flights, but I wouldn't remove a qualified pilot because an enthusiastic amateur wants to have a go.
And Trump will be all about making money and screwing the environment.
Many people voted for Brexit in the UK because they were tired of the status quo and wanted to send a message to the establishment. Which is fine in principal, as long as your protest doesn't result in other people's lives becoming more difficult.
Also, endorsing ghastly people, whatever our reasons, sends a message to others. That could be sending the message that it's ok to be racist. Ok to be sexist. Ok to avoid paying taxes. Ok to run your businesses immorally. Ok to be fearful of others. Ok to hate.
I respect your commenting on here.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 23:00:04 GMT 1, When playing the, "Who would you be on Game of Thrones?" game, America chose 'Reek'.
When playing the, "Who would you be on Game of Thrones?" game, America chose 'Reek'.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 23:00:05 GMT 1, I voted for Trump. I didn't vote for who he is - a narcissist, billionaire, sexist. I also didn't vote for him in support of some of his "plans" like the Mexico wall, or the Muslim ban. I voted for him because of what he isn't and that is a career politician. All of our problems in my opinion boils down to one thing, special interest money in politics. All the corporations throwing money at our politicians puts their interests above the American people and worlds best interest. Making us happy doesn't get them elected believe it or not. If their campaigns aren't funded and they don't have the resources to get their name out, they aren't going to have a job very long. Those that manage to keep their jobs have learned through their careers to play ball, and when a new congressmen does gets in pledging to "clean up Washington", he can't do it alone and will be out his next term. Big moves need to be made to how our elections work in order to get our elected officials interests aligned with the public. A big start is removing the ability of corporations contributing to campaigns. Along with which significant term limits would go a long way to helping keep our candidates fresh and hopefully give more honest, real people a chance to make a positive impact.The problem is there's no motivation for any of them to ruin the good thing they have going. We need a person who doesn't have anything to lose by doing so, and Trump is the first whose come along in my lifetime who doesn't. Will he? Maybe not. But I know Clinton wouldn't. Many of people's biggest fears about what Trump may or may not do are pretty unfounded. Is it realistic or possible to ban muslims outright? Not a chance. Build a wall across the border of Mexico? Nope. Can he increase background checks, screenings, and border patrol? Sure but that's not such a terrible thing. His biggest issue is he doesn't thing before he talks. However his success in business eases my concerns because he must put more thought into his actions before he makes them than his thought to his words. Think he is going to start World War III? Well the president can't declare war without congressional approval. Sure hypothetically he could instigate another country to the point where they make the first move, but if that's the case we have a country with a leader more dangerous than Trump. I respect that others may feel what he has done and said as unfit for leadership of the free world, and to be honest I don't disagree. However I feel like he is the best chance we have of breaking that status quo and opening up the door to real progress. He's a narcissist billionaire, what does he have to gain from this? I think he's just seeking approval for his self esteem and that means he should be working for our interest, not the systems. I think he's for the greater good. We've all had bad flights, but I wouldn't remove a qualified pilot because an enthusiastic amateur wants to have a go.
And Trump will be all about making money and screwing the environment.
Many people voted for Brexit in the UK because they were tired of the status quo and wanted to send a message to the establishment. Which is fine in principal, as long as your protest doesn't result in other people's lives becoming more difficult.
Also, endorsing ghastly people, whatever our reasons, sends a message to others. That could be sending the message that it's ok to be racist. Ok to be sexist. Ok to avoid paying taxes. Ok to run your businesses immorally. Ok to be fearful of others. Ok to hate.
I respect your commenting on here.
A fair one might be, just because we always did it that way, doesn't mean its right, and i think thats where the majority of voters are
Its the tipping point, the establishment are getting a back lash worldwide as people become more educated and realise governments are run by corporations and shareholders, and the working/middle class person are no more than slaves to the system
No one wanted trump
But they didn't want him less than they didn't want Clinton
Like a lot of recent votes, we seem to be missing a 3rd option
I voted for Trump. I didn't vote for who he is - a narcissist, billionaire, sexist. I also didn't vote for him in support of some of his "plans" like the Mexico wall, or the Muslim ban. I voted for him because of what he isn't and that is a career politician. All of our problems in my opinion boils down to one thing, special interest money in politics. All the corporations throwing money at our politicians puts their interests above the American people and worlds best interest. Making us happy doesn't get them elected believe it or not. If their campaigns aren't funded and they don't have the resources to get their name out, they aren't going to have a job very long. Those that manage to keep their jobs have learned through their careers to play ball, and when a new congressmen does gets in pledging to "clean up Washington", he can't do it alone and will be out his next term. Big moves need to be made to how our elections work in order to get our elected officials interests aligned with the public. A big start is removing the ability of corporations contributing to campaigns. Along with which significant term limits would go a long way to helping keep our candidates fresh and hopefully give more honest, real people a chance to make a positive impact.The problem is there's no motivation for any of them to ruin the good thing they have going. We need a person who doesn't have anything to lose by doing so, and Trump is the first whose come along in my lifetime who doesn't. Will he? Maybe not. But I know Clinton wouldn't. Many of people's biggest fears about what Trump may or may not do are pretty unfounded. Is it realistic or possible to ban muslims outright? Not a chance. Build a wall across the border of Mexico? Nope. Can he increase background checks, screenings, and border patrol? Sure but that's not such a terrible thing. His biggest issue is he doesn't thing before he talks. However his success in business eases my concerns because he must put more thought into his actions before he makes them than his thought to his words. Think he is going to start World War III? Well the president can't declare war without congressional approval. Sure hypothetically he could instigate another country to the point where they make the first move, but if that's the case we have a country with a leader more dangerous than Trump. I respect that others may feel what he has done and said as unfit for leadership of the free world, and to be honest I don't disagree. However I feel like he is the best chance we have of breaking that status quo and opening up the door to real progress. He's a narcissist billionaire, what does he have to gain from this? I think he's just seeking approval for his self esteem and that means he should be working for our interest, not the systems. I think he's for the greater good. We've all had bad flights, but I wouldn't remove a qualified pilot because an enthusiastic amateur wants to have a go.
And Trump will be all about making money and screwing the environment.
Many people voted for Brexit in the UK because they were tired of the status quo and wanted to send a message to the establishment. Which is fine in principal, as long as your protest doesn't result in other people's lives becoming more difficult.
Also, endorsing ghastly people, whatever our reasons, sends a message to others. That could be sending the message that it's ok to be racist. Ok to be sexist. Ok to avoid paying taxes. Ok to run your businesses immorally. Ok to be fearful of others. Ok to hate.
I respect your commenting on here.
Thats not a fair analogy A fair one might be, just because we always did it that way, doesn't mean its right, and i think thats where the majority of voters are Its the tipping point, the establishment are getting a back lash worldwide as people become more educated and realise governments are run by corporations and shareholders, and the working/middle class person are no more than slaves to the system No one wanted trump But they didn't want him less than they didn't want Clinton Like a lot of recent votes, we seem to be missing a 3rd option |
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Donald Trump, by Dr Plip on Nov 9, 2016 23:09:05 GMT 1, We've all had bad flights, but I wouldn't remove a qualified pilot because an enthusiastic amateur wants to have a go.
And Trump will be all about making money and screwing the environment.
Many people voted for Brexit in the UK because they were tired of the status quo and wanted to send a message to the establishment. Which is fine in principal, as long as your protest doesn't result in other people's lives becoming more difficult.
Also, endorsing ghastly people, whatever our reasons, sends a message to others. That could be sending the message that it's ok to be racist. Ok to be sexist. Ok to avoid paying taxes. Ok to run your businesses immorally. Ok to be fearful of others. Ok to hate.
I respect your commenting on here.
Thats not a fair analogy A fair one might be, just because we always did it that way, doesn't mean its right, and i think thats where the majority of voters are Its the tipping point, the establishment are getting a back lash worldwide as people become more educated and realise governments are run by corporations and shareholders, and the working/middle class person are no more than slaves to the system No one wanted trump But they didn't want him less than they didn't want Clinton Like a lot of recent votes, we seem to be missing a 3rd option Clinton wouldn't have changed the political system. Neither will Trump. The Republicans won't let him. Who will make the lives of the working class harder?
And endorsing an arsehole tells others arseholes that it's ok to be arseholes.
We've all had bad flights, but I wouldn't remove a qualified pilot because an enthusiastic amateur wants to have a go.
And Trump will be all about making money and screwing the environment.
Many people voted for Brexit in the UK because they were tired of the status quo and wanted to send a message to the establishment. Which is fine in principal, as long as your protest doesn't result in other people's lives becoming more difficult.
Also, endorsing ghastly people, whatever our reasons, sends a message to others. That could be sending the message that it's ok to be racist. Ok to be sexist. Ok to avoid paying taxes. Ok to run your businesses immorally. Ok to be fearful of others. Ok to hate.
I respect your commenting on here.
Thats not a fair analogy A fair one might be, just because we always did it that way, doesn't mean its right, and i think thats where the majority of voters are Its the tipping point, the establishment are getting a back lash worldwide as people become more educated and realise governments are run by corporations and shareholders, and the working/middle class person are no more than slaves to the system No one wanted trump But they didn't want him less than they didn't want Clinton Like a lot of recent votes, we seem to be missing a 3rd option Clinton wouldn't have changed the political system. Neither will Trump. The Republicans won't let him. Who will make the lives of the working class harder?
And endorsing an arsehole tells others arseholes that it's ok to be arseholes.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 23:12:59 GMT 1, Thats not a fair analogy A fair one might be, just because we always did it that way, doesn't mean its right, and i think thats where the majority of voters are Its the tipping point, the establishment are getting a back lash worldwide as people become more educated and realise governments are run by corporations and shareholders, and the working/middle class person are no more than slaves to the system No one wanted trump But they didn't want him less than they didn't want Clinton Like a lot of recent votes, we seem to be missing a 3rd option Clinton wouldn't have changed the political system. Neither will Trump. The Republicans won't let him. Who will make the lives of the working class harder?
Thats not a fair analogy A fair one might be, just because we always did it that way, doesn't mean its right, and i think thats where the majority of voters are Its the tipping point, the establishment are getting a back lash worldwide as people become more educated and realise governments are run by corporations and shareholders, and the working/middle class person are no more than slaves to the system No one wanted trump But they didn't want him less than they didn't want Clinton Like a lot of recent votes, we seem to be missing a 3rd option Clinton wouldn't have changed the political system. Neither will Trump. The Republicans won't let him. Who will make the lives of the working class harder?
Most definitely Trump will make it tougher for working class. same as Brexit will make it harder for the working class, the majority still voted to be poorer.. |
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Donald Trump, by Dr Plip on Nov 9, 2016 23:13:35 GMT 1, Brexit resulted in a lot of people taking a greater interest in politics and how democracy works. That could be a good thing to come out of this.
Brexit resulted in a lot of people taking a greater interest in politics and how democracy works. That could be a good thing to come out of this. |
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 23:21:06 GMT 1, Half of the world's population consists of women. The United States is currently the world's only superpower. They had to choose a female presidential candidate or a sexist. They chose the latter. It is an insult to me. And against all other women. #letsmakepussygreatagain Many weren't even able to cope with female Ghostbusters 
Or just fed up with bad remakes.
Half of the world's population consists of women. The United States is currently the world's only superpower. They had to choose a female presidential candidate or a sexist. They chose the latter. It is an insult to me. And against all other women. #letsmakepussygreatagain Many weren't even able to cope with female Ghostbusters
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Donald Trump, by Dr Plip on Nov 9, 2016 23:26:52 GMT 1, Many weren't even able to cope with female Ghostbusters
Or just fed up with bad remakes.
Many weren't even able to cope with female Ghostbusters
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Donald Trump, by davievegas on Nov 10, 2016 1:00:03 GMT 1, We've all had bad flights, but I wouldn't remove a qualified pilot because an enthusiastic amateur wants to have a go.
And Trump will be all about making money and screwing the environment.
Many people voted for Brexit in the UK because they were tired of the status quo and wanted to send a message to the establishment. Which is fine in principal, as long as your protest doesn't result in other people's lives becoming more difficult.
Also, endorsing ghastly people, whateverย our reasons, sends a message to others. That could be sending the message that it's ok to be racist. Ok to be sexist. Ok to avoid paying taxes. Ok to run your businesses immorally. Ok to be fearful of others. Ok to hate.
I respect your commenting on here.
Thats not ย a fair analogy A fair one might be, just because we always did it that way, doesn't mean its right, and i think thats where the majority of voters are Its the tipping point, the establishment are getting a back lash worldwide as people become more educated and realise governments are run by corporations and shareholders, and the working/middle class person are no more than slaves to the system No one wanted trump But they didn't want him less than they didn't want Clinton Like a lot of recent votes, we seem to be missing a 3rd option
But still 59 million people voted for him. It was the biggest UPSET in THE WORLD and probably EVER in human history with unthinkable odds against him. The government fought him, his own republican party and 90% of the biased democratic media as well and he won thanks to the voters. His election was the equivalent of hitting the lotto or all the stars in the galaxy forming a straight line.
UNTHINKABLE you say? That depends on if you were a Hillary Clinton backer. Democrats would of had a victory if Bernie Sanders beat Hillary. People decided no more corruption. I said the independents were going to vote in droves for him because the people were forgotten by the US government and had no voice.ย The American people had enough.
So your argument is they wanted Hillary less then Trump? Lets put it this way. Even the 3rd option candidate Gary Johnsonย was by far the most clueless option in this whole election. The guy never even heard of "Aleppo" which is being bombed left and right by Russia. Which I may add, the US would be in world war 3 with IF Hillary won. This election became HISTORIC because of the following reasons.
1. A TOTAL outsider that has never been a politician or been part of the army/navy etc has ever won a presidential election. Shows any non politician can now run for office and win.
2. The US people decided to elect a non corrupted billionaire who has a proven track record in employing hundreds of thousands of jobs with his company. He was by FAR our best option in my opinion for the economy with getting our 20 trillion dollar deficit down with trade deals and funneling money in the US economy.
3. The people had enough. They had enough of Obamas garbage presidency and less then 2% growth in 8 YEARS. Obama care has single handily destroyed working families with 20-100% rate hikes coming this next year in some states.
There is so many more I can list on and on but the fact is, THE people have spoken. No more rants about our vote does not count. Last night proved that. It was a night we will never see again in our lifetimes. Now, does he do all that he says he is gonna do and becomes a good/great or even decent president in the future? We only can wait and see.
- Watch this and it explains ALOT. Very moving even If Michael Moore made it to scare voters to not vote for trump.
We've all had bad flights, but I wouldn't remove a qualified pilot because an enthusiastic amateur wants to have a go.
And Trump will be all about making money and screwing the environment.
Many people voted for Brexit in the UK because they were tired of the status quo and wanted to send a message to the establishment. Which is fine in principal, as long as your protest doesn't result in other people's lives becoming more difficult.
Also, endorsing ghastly people, whateverย our reasons, sends a message to others. That could be sending the message that it's ok to be racist. Ok to be sexist. Ok to avoid paying taxes. Ok to run your businesses immorally. Ok to be fearful of others. Ok to hate.
I respect your commenting on here.
Thats not ย a fair analogy A fair one might be, just because we always did it that way, doesn't mean its right, and i think thats where the majority of voters are Its the tipping point, the establishment are getting a back lash worldwide as people become more educated and realise governments are run by corporations and shareholders, and the working/middle class person are no more than slaves to the system No one wanted trump But they didn't want him less than they didn't want Clinton Like a lot of recent votes, we seem to be missing a 3rd option Let me start off by saying this response is my opinion after what I saw last night. I am a independent and more then EVER happy to be one in this election. No one wanted trump? You can say he was the choice out of the garbage that was given too us yes. But he still beat 16 OTHER republican nominees that were politicians. But still 59 million people voted for him. It was the biggest UPSET in THE WORLD and probably EVER in human history with unthinkable odds against him. The government fought him, his own republican party and 90% of the biased democratic media as well and he won thanks to the voters. His election was the equivalent of hitting the lotto or all the stars in the galaxy forming a straight line. UNTHINKABLE you say? That depends on if you were a Hillary Clinton backer. Democrats would of had a victory if Bernie Sanders beat Hillary. People decided no more corruption. I said the independents were going to vote in droves for him because the people were forgotten by the US government and had no voice.ย The American people had enough. So your argument is they wanted Hillary less then Trump? Lets put it this way. Even the 3rd option candidate Gary Johnsonย was by far the most clueless option in this whole election. The guy never even heard of "Aleppo" which is being bombed left and right by Russia. Which I may add, the US would be in world war 3 with IF Hillary won. This election became HISTORIC because of the following reasons. 1. A TOTAL outsider that has never been a politician or been part of the army/navy etc has ever won a presidential election. Shows any non politician can now run for office and win. 2. The US people decided to elect a non corrupted billionaire who has a proven track record in employing hundreds of thousands of jobs with his company. He was by FAR our best option in my opinion for the economy with getting our 20 trillion dollar deficit down with trade deals and funneling money in the US economy. 3. The people had enough. They had enough of Obamas garbage presidency and less then 2% growth in 8 YEARS. Obama care has single handily destroyed working families with 20-100% rate hikes coming this next year in some states. There is so many more I can list on and on but the fact is, THE people have spoken. No more rants about our vote does not count. Last night proved that. It was a night we will never see again in our lifetimes. Now, does he do all that he says he is gonna do and becomes a good/great or even decent president in the future? We only can wait and see. - Watch this and it explains ALOT. Very moving even If Michael Moore made it to scare voters to not vote for trump. |
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Donald Trump, by Bazaaart on Nov 10, 2016 1:11:55 GMT 1, I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL!
I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL!
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 1:38:03 GMT 1, It's fun to see all the leftist media cry hot tears (not even only in the USA but in Europe as well). I was watching last night and the 'objective' Dutch BBC-version had a guy presenting that said 'and Ohio goes to Trump..too bad'. That's all you need to hear from the cultural elite and that's in my opinion one of the main reasons why Trump won.
People are fed up with the small inner circle of people that control politics and media, and that try to force their view of the world from their ivory towers upon the masses that have to deal with their incompetence while they live the good life and don't encounter any poverty, violence or whatever part of the Maslow pyramid you want to insert here. People just had enough.
And that's not to say that I like the fact that Trump is elected, I personally think it's really fucked up that a nation of 300 million people deliver those two people als candidates. But given what Hillary represented and what Trump represents, I don't think it's a shock, by any means, that Trump won. It's only a shock for the leftist elitists and people in the media that made those insane polls and predictions about the outcome.
It's fun to see all the leftist media cry hot tears (not even only in the USA but in Europe as well). I was watching last night and the 'objective' Dutch BBC-version had a guy presenting that said 'and Ohio goes to Trump..too bad'. That's all you need to hear from the cultural elite and that's in my opinion one of the main reasons why Trump won.
People are fed up with the small inner circle of people that control politics and media, and that try to force their view of the world from their ivory towers upon the masses that have to deal with their incompetence while they live the good life and don't encounter any poverty, violence or whatever part of the Maslow pyramid you want to insert here. People just had enough.
And that's not to say that I like the fact that Trump is elected, I personally think it's really fucked up that a nation of 300 million people deliver those two people als candidates. But given what Hillary represented and what Trump represents, I don't think it's a shock, by any means, that Trump won. It's only a shock for the leftist elitists and people in the media that made those insane polls and predictions about the outcome.
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Donald Trump, by davievegas on Nov 10, 2016 1:38:15 GMT 1, I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL!
Still seem to be missing the point. He was not elected because of his great characteristics. He was elected because some things economically he stands for is what american people have been wanting for a longtime and the peoples voice has fallen on deaf ears. Its the big F*** you to the government and people feel his election is a statement.
I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL! Still seem to be missing the point. He was not elected because of his great characteristics. He was elected because some things economically he stands for is what american people have been wanting for a longtime and the peoples voice has fallen on deaf ears. Its the big F*** you to the government and people feel his election is a statement. |
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 1:39:43 GMT 1, Oh and by the way CNN had the most awesome coverage for a foreigner. I tried all the major media outlets including the BBC, Dutch television, FOX, etc etc but CNN was by far the best.
Oh and by the way CNN had the most awesome coverage for a foreigner. I tried all the major media outlets including the BBC, Dutch television, FOX, etc etc but CNN was by far the best.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 2:19:38 GMT 1, I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL!
Lol you gotta admit the snow Mexican comment is pretty funny.
But it wasn't trump who said it, it's be credited to him on social media though.
I kinda wish he said it ๐น
I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL! Lol you gotta admit the snow Mexican comment is pretty funny. But it wasn't trump who said it, it's be credited to him on social media though. I kinda wish he said it ๐น |
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Donald Trump, by Pipes on Nov 10, 2016 2:24:23 GMT 1, I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL! Lol you gotta admit the snow Mexican comment is pretty funny. But it wasn't trump who said it, it's be credited to him on social media though. I kinda wish he said it ๐น
https://instagram.com/p/BMj0ZSnAgQU
I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL! Lol you gotta admit the snow Mexican comment is pretty funny. But it wasn't trump who said it, it's be credited to him on social media though. I kinda wish he said it ๐น It was funny - not him though. https://instagram.com/p/BMj0ZSnAgQU |
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Donald Trump, by NYart on Nov 10, 2016 2:30:00 GMT 1, In the end, maybe some of you will get the reference lol, it came down to voting for a giant douche or a turd sandwich. I don't believe I'm saying it's okay to be a giant douche because given the choice between two bad options I chose the one I believe has more upside. Clinton has authorized the sales of arms to countries with serious human rights abuses. It's not hard to believe hundreds if not thousands of innocent people have died from those weapons. But the fact that her foundation received generous donations from those countries, I guess she can sleep well at night. Both people have benefited from the misfortunes of others in the past, and both likely would as president one way or another. I do however maintain hope that Trump is not in it for his own financial gain, and if that's the case I think Trump has more potential to change things long term for the better.
I definitely would have voted for Gary Johnson or Bernie Sanders if they could have had a chance to win. That's another problem with our system. Due to the lack of media attention a third party such as Libertarian which I identify with will no time soon have a chance. And with Bernie and the way the democratic primaries are designed he never had a chance to become their nominee. The system bit them in the ass this time because had Bernie been the candidate Trump wouldn't have had a chance.
To the point where Trump won't be able to accomplish serious change to our democratic process because his fellow Republicans won't allow it... Basically right now they know they're in trouble. A candidate they did not want or support was able to hijack their party to become president, their best candidates were not as appealing as Trump, that says a ton about their parties future. If they want to handcuff Trump he's not going to take it laying down considering he's been fighting them for the past year before holding any position of power. They will be sealing their own fate for years to come, it might be a tough pill for them to swallow but it's one they have to. They need to support Trump. Think about it, if they can rally behind him and accomplish some positive things and get their disgruntled voters support back that's about the most they could hope for in this situation.
In the end, maybe some of you will get the reference lol, it came down to voting for a giant douche or a turd sandwich. I don't believe I'm saying it's okay to be a giant douche because given the choice between two bad options I chose the one I believe has more upside. Clinton has authorized the sales of arms to countries with serious human rights abuses. It's not hard to believe hundreds if not thousands of innocent people have died from those weapons. But the fact that her foundation received generous donations from those countries, I guess she can sleep well at night. Both people have benefited from the misfortunes of others in the past, and both likely would as president one way or another. I do however maintain hope that Trump is not in it for his own financial gain, and if that's the case I think Trump has more potential to change things long term for the better.
I definitely would have voted for Gary Johnson or Bernie Sanders if they could have had a chance to win. That's another problem with our system. Due to the lack of media attention a third party such as Libertarian which I identify with will no time soon have a chance. And with Bernie and the way the democratic primaries are designed he never had a chance to become their nominee. The system bit them in the ass this time because had Bernie been the candidate Trump wouldn't have had a chance.
To the point where Trump won't be able to accomplish serious change to our democratic process because his fellow Republicans won't allow it... Basically right now they know they're in trouble. A candidate they did not want or support was able to hijack their party to become president, their best candidates were not as appealing as Trump, that says a ton about their parties future. If they want to handcuff Trump he's not going to take it laying down considering he's been fighting them for the past year before holding any position of power. They will be sealing their own fate for years to come, it might be a tough pill for them to swallow but it's one they have to. They need to support Trump. Think about it, if they can rally behind him and accomplish some positive things and get their disgruntled voters support back that's about the most they could hope for in this situation.
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Donald Trump, by thomasmer on Nov 10, 2016 3:53:55 GMT 1, Hope he shakes things up, poverty and education across the US is a serious issue, Clinton wouldn't have done shit for them.
Hope he shakes things up, poverty and education across the US is a serious issue, Clinton wouldn't have done shit for them.
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Donald Trump, by d.r. perseus on Nov 10, 2016 4:57:06 GMT 1, I voted for Trump. I didn't vote for who he is - a narcissist, billionaire, sexist. I also didn't vote for him in support of some of his "plans" like the Mexico wall, or the Muslim ban. I voted for him because of what he isn't and that is a career politician. All of our problems in my opinion boils down to one thing, special interest money in politics. All the corporations throwing money at our politicians puts their interests above the American people and worlds best interest. Making us happy doesn't get them elected believe it or not. If their campaigns aren't funded and they don't have the resources to get their name out, they aren't going to have a job very long. Those that manage to keep their jobs have learned through their careers to play ball, and when a new congressmen does gets in pledging to "clean up Washington", he can't do it alone and will be out his next term. Big moves need to be made to how our elections work in order to get our elected officials interests aligned with the public. A big start is removing the ability of corporations contributing to campaigns. Along with which significant term limits would go a long way to helping keep our candidates fresh and hopefully give more honest, real people a chance to make a positive impact.The problem is there's no motivation for any of them to ruin the good thing they have going. We need a person who doesn't have anything to lose by doing so, and Trump is the first whose come along in my lifetime who doesn't. Will he? Maybe not. But I know Clinton wouldn't. Many of people's biggest fears about what Trump may or may not do are pretty unfounded. Is it realistic or possible to ban muslims outright? Not a chance. Build a wall across the border of Mexico? Nope. Can he increase background checks, screenings, and border patrol? Sure but that's not such a terrible thing. His biggest issue is he doesn't thing before he talks. However his success in business eases my concerns because he must put more thought into his actions before he makes them than his thought to his words. Think he is going to start World War III? Well the president can't declare war without congressional approval. Sure hypothetically he could instigate another country to the point where they make the first move, but if that's the case we have a country with a leader more dangerous than Trump. I respect that others may feel what he has done and said as unfit for leadership of the free world, and to be honest I don't disagree. However I feel like he is the best chance we have of breaking that status quo and opening up the door to real progress. He's a narcissist billionaire, what does he have to gain from this? I think he's just seeking approval for his self esteem and that means he should be working for our interest, not the systems. I think he's for the greater good.
...and yet you all voted in the GOP (career politicians) to win the House, Senate, and the power to change the Supreme Court for the rest of your life. Seems like the outcast vote won . Sarcasm. Your rationalization is poor when viewed through this lens.
I voted for Trump. I didn't vote for who he is - a narcissist, billionaire, sexist. I also didn't vote for him in support of some of his "plans" like the Mexico wall, or the Muslim ban. I voted for him because of what he isn't and that is a career politician. All of our problems in my opinion boils down to one thing, special interest money in politics. All the corporations throwing money at our politicians puts their interests above the American people and worlds best interest. Making us happy doesn't get them elected believe it or not. If their campaigns aren't funded and they don't have the resources to get their name out, they aren't going to have a job very long. Those that manage to keep their jobs have learned through their careers to play ball, and when a new congressmen does gets in pledging to "clean up Washington", he can't do it alone and will be out his next term. Big moves need to be made to how our elections work in order to get our elected officials interests aligned with the public. A big start is removing the ability of corporations contributing to campaigns. Along with which significant term limits would go a long way to helping keep our candidates fresh and hopefully give more honest, real people a chance to make a positive impact.The problem is there's no motivation for any of them to ruin the good thing they have going. We need a person who doesn't have anything to lose by doing so, and Trump is the first whose come along in my lifetime who doesn't. Will he? Maybe not. But I know Clinton wouldn't. Many of people's biggest fears about what Trump may or may not do are pretty unfounded. Is it realistic or possible to ban muslims outright? Not a chance. Build a wall across the border of Mexico? Nope. Can he increase background checks, screenings, and border patrol? Sure but that's not such a terrible thing. His biggest issue is he doesn't thing before he talks. However his success in business eases my concerns because he must put more thought into his actions before he makes them than his thought to his words. Think he is going to start World War III? Well the president can't declare war without congressional approval. Sure hypothetically he could instigate another country to the point where they make the first move, but if that's the case we have a country with a leader more dangerous than Trump. I respect that others may feel what he has done and said as unfit for leadership of the free world, and to be honest I don't disagree. However I feel like he is the best chance we have of breaking that status quo and opening up the door to real progress. He's a narcissist billionaire, what does he have to gain from this? I think he's just seeking approval for his self esteem and that means he should be working for our interest, not the systems. I think he's for the greater good. ...and yet you all voted in the GOP (career politicians) to win the House, Senate, and the power to change the Supreme Court for the rest of your life. Seems like the outcast vote won . Sarcasm. Your rationalization is poor when viewed through this lens. |
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Donald Trump, by d.r. perseus on Nov 10, 2016 4:59:14 GMT 1, I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL! Still seem to be missing the point. He was not elected because of his great characteristics. He was elected because some things economically he stands for is what american people have been wanting for a longtime and the peoples voice has fallen on deaf ears. Its the big F*** you to the government and people feel his election is a statement.
Again, this idea falls flat when you realize that same"fuck you" government folks voted for GOP to win the House, Senate and direct the course of this country for our life times.
I dont know if you know this but Trump calls us here in Canada "Snow Mexicans!!" LOL! Still seem to be missing the point. He was not elected because of his great characteristics. He was elected because some things economically he stands for is what american people have been wanting for a longtime and the peoples voice has fallen on deaf ears. Its the big F*** you to the government and people feel his election is a statement. Again, this idea falls flat when you realize that same"fuck you" government folks voted for GOP to win the House, Senate and direct the course of this country for our life times. |
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Donald Trump, by nex on Nov 10, 2016 5:54:18 GMT 1, the man is openly racist and sexist
make all the excuses you want, those two facts are true
the man is openly racist and sexist
make all the excuses you want, those two facts are true
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Donald Trump, by RoboJ on Nov 10, 2016 8:06:40 GMT 1, Is he going to change the law on tax to ensure the loopholes he has used to avoid contributing are now closed? Some how I think trumps net worth may start going up when he is president.
It's incredible how masses of people are blindly lead by the loudest voice rather than listening to what that voice is saying.
Is he going to change the law on tax to ensure the loopholes he has used to avoid contributing are now closed? Some how I think trumps net worth may start going up when he is president.
It's incredible how masses of people are blindly lead by the loudest voice rather than listening to what that voice is saying.
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Donald Trump, by Daniel Silk on Nov 10, 2016 9:08:52 GMT 1, Watching the news on TVs and it's the same as after Brexit, with the media and people in power who thought they knew everything suddenly realise, or actually still not realise how out of touch with the majority public opinion they are.
Watching the news on TVs and it's the same as after Brexit, with the media and people in power who thought they knew everything suddenly realise, or actually still not realise how out of touch with the majority public opinion they are.
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Donald Trump, by RoboJ on Nov 10, 2016 9:49:14 GMT 1, Watching the news on TVs and it's the same as after Brexit, with the media and people in power who thought they knew everything suddenly realise, or actually still not realise how out of touch with the majority public opinion they are.
Hilary got the majority of votes
Watching the news on TVs and it's the same as after Brexit, with the media and people in power who thought they knew everything suddenly realise, or actually still not realise how out of touch with the majority public opinion they are. Hilary got the majority of votes |
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Donald Trump, by NYart on Nov 10, 2016 10:36:28 GMT 1, Still seem to be missing the point. He was not elected because of his great characteristics. He was elected because some things economically he stands for is what american people have been wanting for a longtime and the peoples voice has fallen on deaf ears. Its the big F*** you to the government and people feel his election is a statement. Again, this idea falls flat when you realize that same"f**kyou" government folks voted for GOP to win the House, Senate and direct the course of this country for our life times.
Again it falls back to picking the lesser of two bad choices. And the only way Trump could have any chance to succeed in his efforts regardless of what he intends to do is with the congressional majority. So if I voted for him it'd be a waste of my vote if I went democratic below him on the ticket.
Still seem to be missing the point. He was not elected because of his great characteristics. He was elected because some things economically he stands for is what american people have been wanting for a longtime and the peoples voice has fallen on deaf ears. Its the big F*** you to the government and people feel his election is a statement. Again, this idea falls flat when you realize that same"f**kyou" government folks voted for GOP to win the House, Senate and direct the course of this country for our life times. Again it falls back to picking the lesser of two bad choices. And the only way Trump could have any chance to succeed in his efforts regardless of what he intends to do is with the congressional majority. So if I voted for him it'd be a waste of my vote if I went democratic below him on the ticket. |
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Donald Trump, by NYart on Nov 10, 2016 10:51:56 GMT 1, Watching the news on TVs and it's the same as after Brexit, with the media and people in power who thought they knew everything suddenly realise, or actually still not realise how out of touch with the majority public opinion they are. Hilary got the majority of votes
It's funny because the electoral system was intended to prevent a bad candidate from becoming president. It's ridiculous and outdated and annoys me because I'm essentially only voting for who wins my state, not the election. My state Clinton won and my vote was all for nothing because the popular vote doesn't matter. Which is also a huge reason many people don't vote, I knew Trump had no chance in my state. After this and Gore losing the electoral vote versus Bush who I'm sure all agree was a disaster maybe they'll take a more serious look at that.
Watching the news on TVs and it's the same as after Brexit, with the media and people in power who thought they knew everything suddenly realise, or actually still not realise how out of touch with the majority public opinion they are. Hilary got the majority of votes It's funny because the electoral system was intended to prevent a bad candidate from becoming president. It's ridiculous and outdated and annoys me because I'm essentially only voting for who wins my state, not the election. My state Clinton won and my vote was all for nothing because the popular vote doesn't matter. Which is also a huge reason many people don't vote, I knew Trump had no chance in my state. After this and Gore losing the electoral vote versus Bush who I'm sure all agree was a disaster maybe they'll take a more serious look at that. |
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Donald Trump, by Balboa on Nov 10, 2016 12:13:50 GMT 1, I can't believe anyone would want this on their wall.
I can't believe anyone would want this on their wall.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 15:21:17 GMT 1, Watching the news on TVs and it's the same as after Brexit, with the media and people in power who thought they knew everything suddenly realise, or actually still not realise how out of touch with the majority public opinion they are. Hilary got the majority of votes
Also, I don't totally 'get' the American election system, but isn't this exact system in place so it isn't just the wealthier dense populated states like California and New York that get to decide who becomes president?
I'm a bit unsure how I feel about the system as a whole.
Watching the news on TVs and it's the same as after Brexit, with the media and people in power who thought they knew everything suddenly realise, or actually still not realise how out of touch with the majority public opinion they are. Hilary got the majority of votes Always when I read this it sounds like Hilary should have won by a landslide. In reality she won the popular vote by just 0.2%. Also, I don't totally 'get' the American election system, but isn't this exact system in place so it isn't just the wealthier dense populated states like California and New York that get to decide who becomes president? I'm a bit unsure how I feel about the system as a whole. |
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