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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 9:44:07 GMT 1, Can someone translate?? ......Someone speak 'stencil'?? was not signed in stencil
Can someone translate?? ......Someone speak 'stencil'?? was not signed in stencil Ahhh!!! Figures why i have a difficult time translating it..... |
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New Banksy - Calais, by Lroy on Dec 14, 2015 9:53:08 GMT 1, I agree. The addition of the tag is indeed brilliant and does improve the work. I doubt Banksy did it. I believe the artist signed his work above. Can someone translate?? ......Someone speak 'stencil'??
Misericordias Domini in aeternum cantabo...
I agree. The addition of the tag is indeed brilliant and does improve the work. I doubt Banksy did it. I believe the artist signed his work above. Can someone translate?? ......Someone speak 'stencil'?? Is He French ? Too, also, again ? Misericordias Domini in aeternum cantabo... |
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New Banksy - Calais, by saucyjack on Dec 14, 2015 9:54:38 GMT 1, u speak stencil?
can I download a rosetta stone for it?
u speak stencil?
can I download a rosetta stone for it?
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New Banksy - Calais, by Aza on Dec 14, 2015 13:44:25 GMT 1, Took a detour today to see this, unfortunately it is not yet perspexed 
http://instagram.com/p/_RayWzhuj7
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New Banksy - Calais, by Cornish Crayon on Dec 14, 2015 13:47:40 GMT 1, That sucks!!!!
That sucks!!!!
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New Banksy - Calais, by Lroy on Dec 14, 2015 14:39:05 GMT 1,
as I said before and up, Calais is a small town and it is the first time that a town will protect street-art ( and municipalities workers in general
Are not too quick too )
But the plexi will come ( maybe the mayor is already at Decathlon or IKEA to choose and buy some lovely Perspex with little flowers around the frame )
as I said before and up, Calais is a small town and it is the first time that a town will protect street-art ( and municipalities workers in general Are not too quick too ) But the plexi will come ( maybe the mayor is already at Decathlon or IKEA to choose and buy some lovely Perspex with little flowers around the frame ) |
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 14:52:54 GMT 1, as I said before and up, Calais is a small town and it is the first time that a town will protect street-art ( and municipalities workers in general Are not too quick too ) But the plexi will come ( maybe the mayor is already at Decathlon or IKEA to choose and buy some lovely Perspex with little flowers around the frame )
Maybe it's the financial aspect that the French are protecting?
as I said before and up, Calais is a small town and it is the first time that a town will protect street-art ( and municipalities workers in general Are not too quick too ) But the plexi will come ( maybe the mayor is already at Decathlon or IKEA to choose and buy some lovely Perspex with little flowers around the frame ) Maybe it's the financial aspect that the French are protecting? |
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New Banksy - Calais, by Lroy on Dec 14, 2015 15:09:24 GMT 1, No, i dont think so. Calais has always been a great town , with all the mix of English/French in the streets ( all borders towns are great and full of life, " un air de liberté " ).
Calais is also a " poor " town, and never had a lot of help from the government or region , or investment ( apart for the Aerostar maybe ) ...
Anyway ther is the Ferry crisis, a lot of unemployed and poor people too ( there is maybe les Bourgeois de Calais from Rodin, but Calaus in not a bourgeoise town ).
Then they had to accept and help refugees ( water, curate, MÉDECINS ) who can't go to UK. At the beginning it was 100, now in few month the number passed from 3000 to 6000 ( I tell it again, Calais is a small town , nothing to see there apart ferries and bars ) ...
So, you are a bit a bad tongue Polipou, a bit of culture with these Banksy can help this town ( all the France, in the extrem , were watching this Town as a big spot on the nose ! Now they will can another look on it ) ..,
Since the Eurostar Calais had become s dead town. No more ferries. And slit of bars closed.
It's a shame that no French streeart-artists or singers did not make shows to help migrants and Calais ..,
No, i dont think so. Calais has always been a great town , with all the mix of English/French in the streets ( all borders towns are great and full of life, " un air de liberté " ).
Calais is also a " poor " town, and never had a lot of help from the government or region , or investment ( apart for the Aerostar maybe ) ...
Anyway ther is the Ferry crisis, a lot of unemployed and poor people too ( there is maybe les Bourgeois de Calais from Rodin, but Calaus in not a bourgeoise town ).
Then they had to accept and help refugees ( water, curate, MÉDECINS ) who can't go to UK. At the beginning it was 100, now in few month the number passed from 3000 to 6000 ( I tell it again, Calais is a small town , nothing to see there apart ferries and bars ) ...
So, you are a bit a bad tongue Polipou, a bit of culture with these Banksy can help this town ( all the France, in the extrem , were watching this Town as a big spot on the nose ! Now they will can another look on it ) ..,
Since the Eurostar Calais had become s dead town. No more ferries. And slit of bars closed.
It's a shame that no French streeart-artists or singers did not make shows to help migrants and Calais ..,
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 18:26:16 GMT 1, Man is quite a force and never forget this is his forte and the more his popularity grows the more powerful and effective his messages. Bottom line is this is more brilliantly thought out and executed work, done absolutely for free and for all to admire, think and discuss as we are doing and millions of others will as well and isn't that the point. Keep in mind this is a man who is arguably the most powerful living art force today who is going against the "system" and hasn't released anything publically in over 5 years. Not saying he is not making good money but it's an infinitesimal fraction of what he could be doing and when compared to what he gives back, the art world has just never seen anything like this and is still struggling to digest it. Is this an advertorial?
Sell Banksy prints I guess?
Man is quite a force and never forget this is his forte and the more his popularity grows the more powerful and effective his messages. Bottom line is this is more brilliantly thought out and executed work, done absolutely for free and for all to admire, think and discuss as we are doing and millions of others will as well and isn't that the point. Keep in mind this is a man who is arguably the most powerful living art force today who is going against the "system" and hasn't released anything publically in over 5 years. Not saying he is not making good money but it's an infinitesimal fraction of what he could be doing and when compared to what he gives back, the art world has just never seen anything like this and is still struggling to digest it. Is this an advertorial?
Sell Banksy prints I guess?
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New Banksy - Calais, by cornholio on Dec 14, 2015 18:29:14 GMT 1, Steve Jobs was a megalomaniac who exploited personal desires for corporate profits. Their products are massively overpriced due to that exploiytation. Despite the wealth generated by Apple he is well known for NOT being philanthropic. While Banksy remarked about all the taxes Apple pays they have in fact set up their company in a way to avoid paying as much taxes as possible and have many millions of dollars in offshore accounts that they refuse to repatriate to the U.S. The idea that the world would be lacking something if this guy was never born is ridiculous. Steve Jobs didn't invent the PC, he didn't invent the iPhone, yes he was smart and just so happened to become one of the most famous persons of the PC revolution. But our world would have happened with or without him.
I've been pretty impressed with Banky's ethics and messages through most of his career but this is one of the worst choices, worst murals I think he's done. I don't care for another Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs was a megalomaniac who exploited personal desires for corporate profits. Their products are massively overpriced due to that exploiytation. Despite the wealth generated by Apple he is well known for NOT being philanthropic. While Banksy remarked about all the taxes Apple pays they have in fact set up their company in a way to avoid paying as much taxes as possible and have many millions of dollars in offshore accounts that they refuse to repatriate to the U.S. The idea that the world would be lacking something if this guy was never born is ridiculous. Steve Jobs didn't invent the PC, he didn't invent the iPhone, yes he was smart and just so happened to become one of the most famous persons of the PC revolution. But our world would have happened with or without him.
I've been pretty impressed with Banky's ethics and messages through most of his career but this is one of the worst choices, worst murals I think he's done. I don't care for another Steve Jobs.
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 18:35:50 GMT 1, That's the 2nd time I've read about of "fit young men carrying iphones" as though it was a bad thing this week, ploppi. In pretty much exactly the same words (some of them had better electronics than ... as I remember it) . When did the generally-well-thought-of-idea of 'seeking a better life, getting up & getting out if you can etc' become being a 'dirty economic migrant'? When it didn't apply to someone wanting to move to the south of France, thats when. WTF? Have a heart Not forgetting all the expensive iphones that most of these fit young male migrants seem to have. We all seek a better life.
Steve Jobs father was a millionaire who got a woman in the USA pregnant outside of marriage. He abandoned his son and Jobs was brought up by an American couple who got him interested in computers.
Would the iPhone or similar have been invented by Sam Sung or someone else if Jobs had not met Wozniak?
There are lots of poor and homeless people in Europe who get no help at all.
If they go to the UK they won't get benefits free lodging and food.
It's OK saying poor people in Calais, but how would one security vet them and how many should the UK allow to enter.
Plus when these "migrants" get to the UK, how will they support themselves?
That's the 2nd time I've read about of "fit young men carrying iphones" as though it was a bad thing this week, ploppi. In pretty much exactly the same words (some of them had better electronics than ... as I remember it) . When did the generally-well-thought-of-idea of 'seeking a better life, getting up & getting out if you can etc' become being a 'dirty economic migrant'? When it didn't apply to someone wanting to move to the south of France, thats when. WTF? Have a heart Not forgetting all the expensive iphones that most of these fit young male migrants seem to have. We all seek a better life.
Steve Jobs father was a millionaire who got a woman in the USA pregnant outside of marriage. He abandoned his son and Jobs was brought up by an American couple who got him interested in computers.
Would the iPhone or similar have been invented by Sam Sung or someone else if Jobs had not met Wozniak?
There are lots of poor and homeless people in Europe who get no help at all.
If they go to the UK they won't get benefits free lodging and food.
It's OK saying poor people in Calais, but how would one security vet them and how many should the UK allow to enter.
Plus when these "migrants" get to the UK, how will they support themselves?
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 18:50:32 GMT 1, Steve Jobs was a megalomaniac who exploited personal desires for corporate profits. Their products are massively overpriced due to that exploiytation. Despite the wealth generated by Apple he is well known for NOT being philanthropic. While Banksy remarked about all the taxes Apple pays they have in fact set up their company in a way to avoid paying as much taxes as possible and have many millions of dollars in offshore accounts that they refuse to repatriate to the U.S. The idea that the world would be lacking something if this guy was never born is ridiculous. Steve Jobs didn't invent the PC, he didn't invent the iPhone, yes he was smart and just so happened to become one of the most famous persons of the PC revolution. But our world would have happened with or without him. I've been pretty impressed with Banky's ethics and messages through most of his career but this is one of the worst choices, worst murals I think he's done. I don't care for another Steve Jobs.
Banksy is naive when it comes to politics and rides on the back of issues like this to prmote his image of caring etc.
It's easy for artists to do.
Plus there is a fine line between making a message and raisinga wareness and gaining publicity by linking ones name to these type of issues.
14 workers in the factory in China making iphones comitted suicide.
Workers ahd to live in the factory too.
Jobs abandoned his daughter untill she was seven years old. Despote her mother living in poverty.
Any taxes that Apple pays go to the US government and surely any innovative and business minded people would be better off creating enterprises in their country of origin and creating jobs and wealth there.
Jobs father was wealthy enough to travel and live anywhere in the world.
Jobs was Disneys largest shareholder at one time.
Not so Dismal to use Jobs image. + an unintentional free advert for Apple.
The people in Calais mostly do not come from a war zone or from Syria.
They are allready in Europe, France and can seek asylum in France or Germany or any other European country.
Why do they refuse to do that but prefer to wait a year or two or more to get into the UK?
What is their agenda?
How many should one let in if more arrive in calais or europe? 1 million, Ten million, 60 million?
What is the cut off point for all the people that say these Calais migrants should be allowed into the UK?
How would one security vet the genuine ones from the criminals and dangerous intentions ones?
It's all well and good for Banksy telling us migrants are people and good things can happen, but in reality people can live without an iPhone as it's just a consumer product that gets updated each year or so to sell for profit the latest gadget.
When the police in germany are telling women to change the way they dress so they don't get raped or attacked then there is something very wrong with some asects of migration.
Jobs was the son of a Syrian migrant.
True.
There are people alive today if it wasn't for the second world war changing circumstances and lives, including NASA and some inventors and inventions. but that is not something one considers a good thing.
The huge increas ein rape and violence against women in Sweden and Norway is due to migrants.
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham who raped and also tortured underage victims were migrants asylum seekers and sons of migrants.
So all in all Banksy's message is as shallow as his art.
Some people have decided to promote the globalist one world agenda and even Frau merkel said there would be victims from this agenda.
Steve Jobs was a megalomaniac who exploited personal desires for corporate profits. Their products are massively overpriced due to that exploiytation. Despite the wealth generated by Apple he is well known for NOT being philanthropic. While Banksy remarked about all the taxes Apple pays they have in fact set up their company in a way to avoid paying as much taxes as possible and have many millions of dollars in offshore accounts that they refuse to repatriate to the U.S. The idea that the world would be lacking something if this guy was never born is ridiculous. Steve Jobs didn't invent the PC, he didn't invent the iPhone, yes he was smart and just so happened to become one of the most famous persons of the PC revolution. But our world would have happened with or without him. I've been pretty impressed with Banky's ethics and messages through most of his career but this is one of the worst choices, worst murals I think he's done. I don't care for another Steve Jobs.
Banksy is naive when it comes to politics and rides on the back of issues like this to prmote his image of caring etc.
It's easy for artists to do.
Plus there is a fine line between making a message and raisinga wareness and gaining publicity by linking ones name to these type of issues.
14 workers in the factory in China making iphones comitted suicide.
Workers ahd to live in the factory too.
Jobs abandoned his daughter untill she was seven years old. Despote her mother living in poverty.
Any taxes that Apple pays go to the US government and surely any innovative and business minded people would be better off creating enterprises in their country of origin and creating jobs and wealth there.
Jobs father was wealthy enough to travel and live anywhere in the world.
Jobs was Disneys largest shareholder at one time.
Not so Dismal to use Jobs image. + an unintentional free advert for Apple.
The people in Calais mostly do not come from a war zone or from Syria.
They are allready in Europe, France and can seek asylum in France or Germany or any other European country.
Why do they refuse to do that but prefer to wait a year or two or more to get into the UK?
What is their agenda?
How many should one let in if more arrive in calais or europe? 1 million, Ten million, 60 million?
What is the cut off point for all the people that say these Calais migrants should be allowed into the UK?
How would one security vet the genuine ones from the criminals and dangerous intentions ones?
It's all well and good for Banksy telling us migrants are people and good things can happen, but in reality people can live without an iPhone as it's just a consumer product that gets updated each year or so to sell for profit the latest gadget.
When the police in germany are telling women to change the way they dress so they don't get raped or attacked then there is something very wrong with some asects of migration.
Jobs was the son of a Syrian migrant.
True.
There are people alive today if it wasn't for the second world war changing circumstances and lives, including NASA and some inventors and inventions. but that is not something one considers a good thing.
The huge increas ein rape and violence against women in Sweden and Norway is due to migrants.
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham who raped and also tortured underage victims were migrants asylum seekers and sons of migrants.
So all in all Banksy's message is as shallow as his art.
Some people have decided to promote the globalist one world agenda and even Frau merkel said there would be victims from this agenda.
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 19:13:49 GMT 1, Steve Jobs was a megalomaniac who exploited personal desires for corporate profits. Their products are massively overpriced due to that exploiytation. Despite the wealth generated by Apple he is well known for NOT being philanthropic. While Banksy remarked about all the taxes Apple pays they have in fact set up their company in a way to avoid paying as much taxes as possible and have many millions of dollars in offshore accounts that they refuse to repatriate to the U.S. The idea that the world would be lacking something if this guy was never born is ridiculous. Steve Jobs didn't invent the PC, he didn't invent the iPhone, yes he was smart and just so happened to become one of the most famous persons of the PC revolution. But our world would have happened with or without him. I've been pretty impressed with Banky's ethics and messages through most of his career but this is one of the worst choices, worst murals I think he's done. I don't care for another Steve Jobs.
Banksy is naive when it comes to politics and rides on the back of issues like this to prmote his image of caring etc.
It's easy for artists to do.
Plus there is a fine line between making a message and raisinga wareness and gaining publicity by linking ones name to these type of issues.
14 workers in the factory in China making iphones comitted suicide.
Workers ahd to live in the factory too.
Jobs abandoned his daughter untill she was seven years old. Despote her mother living in poverty.
Any taxes that Apple pays go to the US government and surely any innovative and business minded people would be better off creating enterprises in their country of origin and creating jobs and wealth there.
Jobs father was wealthy enough to travel and live anywhere in the world.
Jobs was Disneys largest shareholder at one time.
Not so Dismal to use Jobs image. + an unintentional free advert for Apple.
The people in Calais mostly do not come from a war zone or from Syria.
They are allready in Europe, France and can seek asylum in France or Germany or any other European country.
Why do they refuse to do that but prefer to wait a year or two or more to get into the UK?
What is their agenda?
How many should one let in if more arrive in calais or europe? 1 million, Ten million, 60 million?
What is the cut off point for all the people that say these Calais migrants should be allowed into the UK?
How would one security vet the genuine ones from the criminals and dangerous intentions ones?
It's all well and good for Banksy telling us migrants are people and good things can happen, but in reality people can live without an iPhone as it's just a consumer product that gets updated each year or so to sell for profit the latest gadget.
When the police in germany are telling women to change the way they dress so they don't get raped or attacked then there is something very wrong with some asects of migration.
Jobs was the son of a Syrian migrant.
True.
There are people alive today if it wasn't for the second world war changing circumstances and lives, including NASA and some inventors and inventions. but that is not something one considers a good thing.
The huge increas ein rape and violence against women in Sweden and Norway is due to migrants.
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham who raped and also tortured underage victims were migrants asylum seekers and sons of migrants.
So all in all Banksy's message is as shallow as his art.
Some people have decided to promote the globalist one world agenda and even Frau merkel said there would be victims from this agenda.
Steve Jobs was a megalomaniac who exploited personal desires for corporate profits. Their products are massively overpriced due to that exploiytation. Despite the wealth generated by Apple he is well known for NOT being philanthropic. While Banksy remarked about all the taxes Apple pays they have in fact set up their company in a way to avoid paying as much taxes as possible and have many millions of dollars in offshore accounts that they refuse to repatriate to the U.S. The idea that the world would be lacking something if this guy was never born is ridiculous. Steve Jobs didn't invent the PC, he didn't invent the iPhone, yes he was smart and just so happened to become one of the most famous persons of the PC revolution. But our world would have happened with or without him. I've been pretty impressed with Banky's ethics and messages through most of his career but this is one of the worst choices, worst murals I think he's done. I don't care for another Steve Jobs.
Banksy is naive when it comes to politics and rides on the back of issues like this to prmote his image of caring etc.
It's easy for artists to do.
Plus there is a fine line between making a message and raisinga wareness and gaining publicity by linking ones name to these type of issues.
14 workers in the factory in China making iphones comitted suicide.
Workers ahd to live in the factory too.
Jobs abandoned his daughter untill she was seven years old. Despote her mother living in poverty.
Any taxes that Apple pays go to the US government and surely any innovative and business minded people would be better off creating enterprises in their country of origin and creating jobs and wealth there.
Jobs father was wealthy enough to travel and live anywhere in the world.
Jobs was Disneys largest shareholder at one time.
Not so Dismal to use Jobs image. + an unintentional free advert for Apple.
The people in Calais mostly do not come from a war zone or from Syria.
They are allready in Europe, France and can seek asylum in France or Germany or any other European country.
Why do they refuse to do that but prefer to wait a year or two or more to get into the UK?
What is their agenda?
How many should one let in if more arrive in calais or europe? 1 million, Ten million, 60 million?
What is the cut off point for all the people that say these Calais migrants should be allowed into the UK?
How would one security vet the genuine ones from the criminals and dangerous intentions ones?
It's all well and good for Banksy telling us migrants are people and good things can happen, but in reality people can live without an iPhone as it's just a consumer product that gets updated each year or so to sell for profit the latest gadget.
When the police in germany are telling women to change the way they dress so they don't get raped or attacked then there is something very wrong with some asects of migration.
Jobs was the son of a Syrian migrant.
True.
There are people alive today if it wasn't for the second world war changing circumstances and lives, including NASA and some inventors and inventions. but that is not something one considers a good thing.
The huge increas ein rape and violence against women in Sweden and Norway is due to migrants.
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham who raped and also tortured underage victims were migrants asylum seekers and sons of migrants.
So all in all Banksy's message is as shallow as his art.
Some people have decided to promote the globalist one world agenda and even Frau merkel said there would be victims from this agenda.
Can you put this ^^ in a nutshell please Plops?. |
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New Banksy - Calais, by andysh on Dec 14, 2015 19:29:03 GMT 1, Great expression
Great expression
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New Banksy - Calais, by cornholio on Dec 14, 2015 19:47:05 GMT 1,
The people in Calais mostly do not come from a war zone or from Syria.
They are allready in Europe, France and can seek asylum in France or Germany or any other European country.
Why do they refuse to do that but prefer to wait a year or two or more to get into the UK?
What is their agenda?
How many should one let in if more arrive in calais or europe? 1 million, Ten million, 60 million?
What is the cut off point for all the people that say these Calais migrants should be allowed into the UK?
How would one security vet the genuine ones from the criminals and dangerous intentions ones?
It's all well and good for Banksy telling us migrants are people and good things can happen, but in reality people can live without an iPhone as it's just a consumer product that gets updated each year or so to sell for profit the latest gadget.
When the police in germany are telling women to change the way they dress so they don't get raped or attacked then there is something very wrong with some asects of migration.
Some people have decided to promote the globalist one world agenda and even Frau merkel said there would be victims from this agenda.
Banksy could have stenciled the face of Tashfeen Malik as well. If perhaps there's a genius hidden among the immigrants there might might also be murderers as well right? Some of them might do good some of them might do evil - but hey they're all people "that don't deserve to live like that (apparently) so you have to let them into your country regardless of the positive or negative consequences, right?
What's going to happen when all of the supposedly "good" people leave all the horrible places in the world? Seems as though there will be a vacumn left behind with nothing but evil and dictators. Imagine how the world would be today if every citizen of Euroope that opposed the nazis fled the continent instead of stood and fought.
I come from a pretty liberal background and I get that great people can come from all cultures and diversity has it's benefits but to what end is all of this? We've let in so many immigrants over the past century, how many more before everything is alright? How many millions of migrants do western nations have to let into their borders before the rainbows start to shine and the happy and wonderful utopia begins and everything is right in the world? More and more it's western culture that erodes in their supposedly noble and righteous effort to save other cultures.
The people in Calais mostly do not come from a war zone or from Syria.
They are allready in Europe, France and can seek asylum in France or Germany or any other European country.
Why do they refuse to do that but prefer to wait a year or two or more to get into the UK?
What is their agenda?
How many should one let in if more arrive in calais or europe? 1 million, Ten million, 60 million?
What is the cut off point for all the people that say these Calais migrants should be allowed into the UK?
How would one security vet the genuine ones from the criminals and dangerous intentions ones?
It's all well and good for Banksy telling us migrants are people and good things can happen, but in reality people can live without an iPhone as it's just a consumer product that gets updated each year or so to sell for profit the latest gadget.
When the police in germany are telling women to change the way they dress so they don't get raped or attacked then there is something very wrong with some asects of migration.
Some people have decided to promote the globalist one world agenda and even Frau merkel said there would be victims from this agenda.
Banksy could have stenciled the face of Tashfeen Malik as well. If perhaps there's a genius hidden among the immigrants there might might also be murderers as well right? Some of them might do good some of them might do evil - but hey they're all people "that don't deserve to live like that (apparently) so you have to let them into your country regardless of the positive or negative consequences, right? What's going to happen when all of the supposedly "good" people leave all the horrible places in the world? Seems as though there will be a vacumn left behind with nothing but evil and dictators. Imagine how the world would be today if every citizen of Euroope that opposed the nazis fled the continent instead of stood and fought. I come from a pretty liberal background and I get that great people can come from all cultures and diversity has it's benefits but to what end is all of this? We've let in so many immigrants over the past century, how many more before everything is alright? How many millions of migrants do western nations have to let into their borders before the rainbows start to shine and the happy and wonderful utopia begins and everything is right in the world? More and more it's western culture that erodes in their supposedly noble and righteous effort to save other cultures. |
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New Banksy - Calais, by kobron on Dec 14, 2015 19:51:36 GMT 1,
Banksy is naive when it comes to politics and rides on the back of issues like this to prmote his image of caring etc.
It's easy for artists to do.
Plus there is a fine line between making a message and raisinga wareness and gaining publicity by linking ones name to these type of issues.
14 workers in the factory in China making iphones comitted suicide.
Workers ahd to live in the factory too.
Jobs abandoned his daughter untill she was seven years old. Despote her mother living in poverty.
Any taxes that Apple pays go to the US government and surely any innovative and business minded people would be better off creating enterprises in their country of origin and creating jobs and wealth there.
Jobs father was wealthy enough to travel and live anywhere in the world.
Jobs was Disneys largest shareholder at one time.
Not so Dismal to use Jobs image. + an unintentional free advert for Apple.
The people in Calais mostly do not come from a war zone or from Syria.
They are allready in Europe, France and can seek asylum in France or Germany or any other European country.
Why do they refuse to do that but prefer to wait a year or two or more to get into the UK?
What is their agenda?
How many should one let in if more arrive in calais or europe? 1 million, Ten million, 60 million?
What is the cut off point for all the people that say these Calais migrants should be allowed into the UK?
How would one security vet the genuine ones from the criminals and dangerous intentions ones?
It's all well and good for Banksy telling us migrants are people and good things can happen, but in reality people can live without an iPhone as it's just a consumer product that gets updated each year or so to sell for profit the latest gadget.
When the police in germany are telling women to change the way they dress so they don't get raped or attacked then there is something very wrong with some asects of migration.
Jobs was the son of a Syrian migrant.
True.
There are people alive today if it wasn't for the second world war changing circumstances and lives, including NASA and some inventors and inventions. but that is not something one considers a good thing.
The huge increas ein rape and violence against women in Sweden and Norway is due to migrants.
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham who raped and also tortured underage victims were migrants asylum seekers and sons of migrants.
So all in all Banksy's message is as shallow as his art.
Some people have decided to promote the globalist one world agenda and even Frau merkel said there would be victims from this agenda.
Can you put this ^^ in a nutshell please Plops?.
"Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves." -George O.
and bonus ... (but this is not a Banksy  )
Banksy is naive when it comes to politics and rides on the back of issues like this to prmote his image of caring etc.
It's easy for artists to do.
Plus there is a fine line between making a message and raisinga wareness and gaining publicity by linking ones name to these type of issues.
14 workers in the factory in China making iphones comitted suicide.
Workers ahd to live in the factory too.
Jobs abandoned his daughter untill she was seven years old. Despote her mother living in poverty.
Any taxes that Apple pays go to the US government and surely any innovative and business minded people would be better off creating enterprises in their country of origin and creating jobs and wealth there.
Jobs father was wealthy enough to travel and live anywhere in the world.
Jobs was Disneys largest shareholder at one time.
Not so Dismal to use Jobs image. + an unintentional free advert for Apple.
The people in Calais mostly do not come from a war zone or from Syria.
They are allready in Europe, France and can seek asylum in France or Germany or any other European country.
Why do they refuse to do that but prefer to wait a year or two or more to get into the UK?
What is their agenda?
How many should one let in if more arrive in calais or europe? 1 million, Ten million, 60 million?
What is the cut off point for all the people that say these Calais migrants should be allowed into the UK?
How would one security vet the genuine ones from the criminals and dangerous intentions ones?
It's all well and good for Banksy telling us migrants are people and good things can happen, but in reality people can live without an iPhone as it's just a consumer product that gets updated each year or so to sell for profit the latest gadget.
When the police in germany are telling women to change the way they dress so they don't get raped or attacked then there is something very wrong with some asects of migration.
Jobs was the son of a Syrian migrant.
True.
There are people alive today if it wasn't for the second world war changing circumstances and lives, including NASA and some inventors and inventions. but that is not something one considers a good thing.
The huge increas ein rape and violence against women in Sweden and Norway is due to migrants.
The rape gangs in Rochdale and Rotherham who raped and also tortured underage victims were migrants asylum seekers and sons of migrants.
So all in all Banksy's message is as shallow as his art.
Some people have decided to promote the globalist one world agenda and even Frau merkel said there would be victims from this agenda.
Can you put this ^^ in a nutshell please Plops?. a nutshell? "Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves." -George O. and bonus ... (but this is not a Banksy ) |
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 20:26:06 GMT 1, Oi hoodiechops, next time stick with the fkin Kitten ok!.
Jesus Christ!, a couple of stencils and it's like Miss Marple investigatres.
Oi hoodiechops, next time stick with the fkin Kitten ok!.
Jesus Christ!, a couple of stencils and it's like Miss Marple investigatres.
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 23:48:37 GMT 1, Africa is not poor.
That is not Africa today.
There is a rich poor divide in Africa just as in Europe and the USA.
Banksy does not live in Calais so it's easy for him to make his stencil and run.
People who live in Calais can't afford to move away.
Africa is not poor.
That is not Africa today.
There is a rich poor divide in Africa just as in Europe and the USA.
Banksy does not live in Calais so it's easy for him to make his stencil and run.
People who live in Calais can't afford to move away.
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 0:49:00 GMT 1, The problem is a complex one. Multifaceted for sure. Your statement: "Africa is not poor"In a sense you are right, Africa has a wealth of minerals and other natural resources which have been exploited for centuries by the developed nations of Europe. The many cultures of Africa are rich and its biodiversity a treasure for this planet. But you are also wrong, as by the last UN study in 2011, 47% of Subsaharan Africans live on what is scientifically defined as "extreme-poverty" this approximately means they have to survive on less than a $1/day. This is by FAR the highest percentage of extreme poor in the World, according to UN statistics - I have Not checked the sources for the Daily Mail statistics. Your statement: "The rich and poor divide is just the same as in Europe or USA"Again you are wrong. The lowest 10 GDP countries in the world are occupied by African nations. The top 10 are occupied by Europe and America (and gulf states). (World Bank statistics 2014) Your statement: "People who live in Calais can't afford to move away."I agree it is desperately difficult living next a constantly moving jungle and all the disturbance that it brings. There are many residents in Calais who have volunteered, given food, blankets and whatever they can to help those worse off than themselves. They have a big heart and open mind and should be praised. The problem was born out of politics and the solution can only be political. We should all write to our local MPs to ask what they are doing to address this problem for the long term. This problem has been going on for over 15yrs and is getting worse by the day. Our politicians think we don't care about our fellow mankind - and thus little has been done. If we donated as much as the UK spends on haircare products and cosmetics on migrants and refugees there would be ample accommodation and facilities to go round. Africa is not poor. That is not Africa today. There is a rich poor divide in Africa just as in Europe and the USA. Banksy does not live in Calais so it's easy for him to make his stencil and run. People who live in Calais can't afford to move away.
There are shanty towns in the USA and the cost of living in Africa is lowe r than teh US and in Europe.
Someone is making a lot of money out of this so called migrant crisis.
People in Calais have been attacked and beaten up by some of thes emigrants.
Supermarkets have banned them as they have had enough of migrants walking in and stealing alcohol.
Politicians are mainly liars and many are paid to fuck up society.
Talking about fucked up.
The content of this video proves it.
The problem is a complex one. Multifaceted for sure. Your statement: "Africa is not poor"In a sense you are right, Africa has a wealth of minerals and other natural resources which have been exploited for centuries by the developed nations of Europe. The many cultures of Africa are rich and its biodiversity a treasure for this planet. But you are also wrong, as by the last UN study in 2011, 47% of Subsaharan Africans live on what is scientifically defined as "extreme-poverty" this approximately means they have to survive on less than a $1/day. This is by FAR the highest percentage of extreme poor in the World, according to UN statistics - I have Not checked the sources for the Daily Mail statistics. Your statement: "The rich and poor divide is just the same as in Europe or USA"Again you are wrong. The lowest 10 GDP countries in the world are occupied by African nations. The top 10 are occupied by Europe and America (and gulf states). (World Bank statistics 2014) Your statement: "People who live in Calais can't afford to move away."I agree it is desperately difficult living next a constantly moving jungle and all the disturbance that it brings. There are many residents in Calais who have volunteered, given food, blankets and whatever they can to help those worse off than themselves. They have a big heart and open mind and should be praised. The problem was born out of politics and the solution can only be political. We should all write to our local MPs to ask what they are doing to address this problem for the long term. This problem has been going on for over 15yrs and is getting worse by the day. Our politicians think we don't care about our fellow mankind - and thus little has been done. If we donated as much as the UK spends on haircare products and cosmetics on migrants and refugees there would be ample accommodation and facilities to go round. Africa is not poor. That is not Africa today. There is a rich poor divide in Africa just as in Europe and the USA. Banksy does not live in Calais so it's easy for him to make his stencil and run. People who live in Calais can't afford to move away. There are shanty towns in the USA and the cost of living in Africa is lowe r than teh US and in Europe. Someone is making a lot of money out of this so called migrant crisis. People in Calais have been attacked and beaten up by some of thes emigrants. Supermarkets have banned them as they have had enough of migrants walking in and stealing alcohol. Politicians are mainly liars and many are paid to fuck up society. Talking about fucked up. The content of this video proves it. |
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New Banksy - Calais, by pressman on Dec 15, 2015 15:17:37 GMT 1, Someone's not been to Africa recently.
Someone's not been to Africa recently.
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 13:55:14 GMT 1, How far along are the french inventing some sort of see-through glasslike substance to cover over their o-so-pecious art ?
How far along are the french inventing some sort of see-through glasslike substance to cover over their o-so-pecious art ?
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New Banksy - Calais, by Matt on Dec 16, 2015 13:59:51 GMT 1, How far along are the french inventing some sort of see-through glasslike substance to cover over their o-so-pecious art ?
It's not that simple mon ami
By now they have surely suggested the names of people who would be responsible for appointing the committee that would elect the subgroup that will choose the consultant who will redact the RFP.
So as not to waste anytime this will be done in sequence with applying for national, regional, local, and European subventions to fund this project and the teams involved.
Be patient
How far along are the french inventing some sort of see-through glasslike substance to cover over their o-so-pecious art ? It's not that simple mon ami By now they have surely suggested the names of people who would be responsible for appointing the committee that would elect the subgroup that will choose the consultant who will redact the RFP. So as not to waste anytime this will be done in sequence with applying for national, regional, local, and European subventions to fund this project and the teams involved. Be patient |
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 14:23:50 GMT 1, How far along are the french inventing some sort of see-through glasslike substance to cover over their o-so-pecious art ?
Fk the mayor or mayoress or whatever, it wasn't done for her.
#madonnawiththebigboobies
How far along are the french inventing some sort of see-through glasslike substance to cover over their o-so-pecious art ? Get the fkin ply ripped off and get the thing tagged before it ends up in some fkin le Gallery. Fk the mayor or mayoress or whatever, it wasn't done for her. #madonnawiththebigboobies |
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 14:24:43 GMT 1, The problem is a complex one. Multifaceted for sure. Your statement: "Africa is not poor"In a sense you are right, Africa has a wealth of minerals and other natural resources which have been exploited for centuries by the developed nations of Europe. The many cultures of Africa are rich and its biodiversity a treasure for this planet. But you are also wrong, as by the last UN study in 2011, 47% of Subsaharan Africans live on what is scientifically defined as "extreme-poverty" this approximately means they have to survive on less than a $1/day. This is by FAR the highest percentage of extreme poor in the World, according to UN statistics - I have Not checked the sources for the Daily Mail statistics. Your statement: "The rich and poor divide is just the same as in Europe or USA"Again you are wrong. The lowest 10 GDP countries in the world are occupied by African nations. The top 10 are occupied by Europe and America (and gulf states). (World Bank statistics 2014) Your statement: "People who live in Calais can't afford to move away."I agree it is desperately difficult living next a constantly moving jungle and all the disturbance that it brings. There are many residents in Calais who have volunteered, given food, blankets and whatever they can to help those worse off than themselves. They have a big heart and open mind and should be praised. The problem was born out of politics and the solution can only be political. We should all write to our local MPs to ask what they are doing to address this problem for the long term. This problem has been going on for over 15yrs and is getting worse by the day. Our politicians think we don't care about our fellow mankind - and thus little has been done. If we donated as much as the UK spends on haircare products and cosmetics on migrants and refugees there would be ample accommodation and facilities to go round. There are shanty towns in the USA and the cost of living in Africa is lowe r than teh US and in Europe. Someone is making a lot of money out of this so called migrant crisis.
It is very complex indeed. Yep, GDPs of African countries are low and most African are poor... But most many African countries had a positive growth for years and some African countries are becoming the new economic hubs. Problem is that the growth only goes to a minority of people and that investment in infrastructure (which is costly) is not there yet. Gap between rich and poor is huge.
Another richness of Africa omitted here is its population; the largest and the youngest... If you check UN demographic projection in Africa, you will see that a large percent of population will be below 15 yo.
This said, it may change with more funding by China (it is coming). There are providing free interest loan to State to invest heavily in infrastructure (new road, railway, new port, etc.). And they said that soon Chinese company will set up in Africa.
As for personal experience, I live in Nairobi, a hub of Eastern Africa. Nairobi is a big city and it is not Kenya and people here are very very rich. Lot of show off, big cars, big 4x4, etc. There is a guy living in my street who has the Tron motorbike, a Lamborghini, a Rool Royce Phantom, and list goes on.
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As for Calais, it is indeed as Lroy said a poor town. Calais had a lot to offer (big port, ferry, etc.) but it is the French TRADE UNION (which are powerful) who killed the Calais and stopped any fundings/investments. Fucking stupid UNION !!
Exactly what they did with Air France and are doing now in town called La Rochelle (can you imagine they public servant do less hours than French law - there are the only one. The mayor has been assaulted numerous times)
The problem is a complex one. Multifaceted for sure. Your statement: "Africa is not poor"In a sense you are right, Africa has a wealth of minerals and other natural resources which have been exploited for centuries by the developed nations of Europe. The many cultures of Africa are rich and its biodiversity a treasure for this planet. But you are also wrong, as by the last UN study in 2011, 47% of Subsaharan Africans live on what is scientifically defined as "extreme-poverty" this approximately means they have to survive on less than a $1/day. This is by FAR the highest percentage of extreme poor in the World, according to UN statistics - I have Not checked the sources for the Daily Mail statistics. Your statement: "The rich and poor divide is just the same as in Europe or USA"Again you are wrong. The lowest 10 GDP countries in the world are occupied by African nations. The top 10 are occupied by Europe and America (and gulf states). (World Bank statistics 2014) Your statement: "People who live in Calais can't afford to move away."I agree it is desperately difficult living next a constantly moving jungle and all the disturbance that it brings. There are many residents in Calais who have volunteered, given food, blankets and whatever they can to help those worse off than themselves. They have a big heart and open mind and should be praised. The problem was born out of politics and the solution can only be political. We should all write to our local MPs to ask what they are doing to address this problem for the long term. This problem has been going on for over 15yrs and is getting worse by the day. Our politicians think we don't care about our fellow mankind - and thus little has been done. If we donated as much as the UK spends on haircare products and cosmetics on migrants and refugees there would be ample accommodation and facilities to go round. There are shanty towns in the USA and the cost of living in Africa is lowe r than teh US and in Europe. Someone is making a lot of money out of this so called migrant crisis. It is very complex indeed. Yep, GDPs of African countries are low and most African are poor... But most many African countries had a positive growth for years and some African countries are becoming the new economic hubs. Problem is that the growth only goes to a minority of people and that investment in infrastructure (which is costly) is not there yet. Gap between rich and poor is huge. Another richness of Africa omitted here is its population; the largest and the youngest... If you check UN demographic projection in Africa, you will see that a large percent of population will be below 15 yo. This said, it may change with more funding by China (it is coming). There are providing free interest loan to State to invest heavily in infrastructure (new road, railway, new port, etc.). And they said that soon Chinese company will set up in Africa. As for personal experience, I live in Nairobi, a hub of Eastern Africa. Nairobi is a big city and it is not Kenya and people here are very very rich. Lot of show off, big cars, big 4x4, etc. There is a guy living in my street who has the Tron motorbike, a Lamborghini, a Rool Royce Phantom, and list goes on. **************** As for Calais, it is indeed as Lroy said a poor town. Calais had a lot to offer (big port, ferry, etc.) but it is the French TRADE UNION (which are powerful) who killed the Calais and stopped any fundings/investments. Fucking stupid UNION !! Exactly what they did with Air France and are doing now in town called La Rochelle (can you imagine they public servant do less hours than French law - there are the only one. The mayor has been assaulted numerous times) |
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 14:35:30 GMT 1, LOL
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New Banksy - Calais, by Lroy on Dec 16, 2015 15:09:00 GMT 1, Ahaha great video !!
Ahaha great video !!
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New Banksy - Calais, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 16:01:25 GMT 1, Any Omar sightings?
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