thewral
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by thewral on Mar 15, 2016 3:08:22 GMT 1, i'll regret opening this can of worms. But as a free painting artist. ie. give any artists in the scene a blank canvas and some paint brushes and some paint.. and i think she stands up very well. i really dont know anymore what artists out there are free painting.. vs computer images, hired help, assistants, etc, etc. Sandra seems very talented to me. is she riding one pony too long? who knows... that miro guy filled a whole career of squiggles. sera, katz, sultan, baechler, the list would go on... of artists that rode a theme for a good long while.. good / bad// who knows. Excuse my ignorance here, but what constitutes "free painting"? There are a bunch of IG photos of her looking at a computer screen of a woman while she paints that image on a canvas.
i'll regret opening this can of worms. But as a free painting artist. ie. give any artists in the scene a blank canvas and some paint brushes and some paint.. and i think she stands up very well. i really dont know anymore what artists out there are free painting.. vs computer images, hired help, assistants, etc, etc. Sandra seems very talented to me. is she riding one pony too long? who knows... that miro guy filled a whole career of squiggles. sera, katz, sultan, baechler, the list would go on... of artists that rode a theme for a good long while.. good / bad// who knows. Excuse my ignorance here, but what constitutes "free painting"? There are a bunch of IG photos of her looking at a computer screen of a woman while she paints that image on a canvas.
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by bigv on Mar 15, 2016 5:12:06 GMT 1, i'll regret opening this can of worms. But as a free painting artist. ie. give any artists in the scene a blank canvas and some paint brushes and some paint.. and i think she stands up very well. i really dont know anymore what artists out there are free painting.. vs computer images, hired help, assistants, etc, etc. Sandra seems very talented to me. is she riding one pony too long? who knows... that miro guy filled a whole career of squiggles. sera, katz, sultan, baechler, the list would go on... of artists that rode a theme for a good long while.. good / bad// who knows. Excuse my ignorance here, but what constitutes "free painting"? There are a bunch of IG photos of her looking at a computer screen of a woman while she paints that image on a canvas.
I think they're getting at the fact that she's actually putting brush to canvas to create as opposed to digitally rendering a woman onto a printer. Even Da Vinci had a model for the Mona Lisa
i'll regret opening this can of worms. But as a free painting artist. ie. give any artists in the scene a blank canvas and some paint brushes and some paint.. and i think she stands up very well. i really dont know anymore what artists out there are free painting.. vs computer images, hired help, assistants, etc, etc. Sandra seems very talented to me. is she riding one pony too long? who knows... that miro guy filled a whole career of squiggles. sera, katz, sultan, baechler, the list would go on... of artists that rode a theme for a good long while.. good / bad// who knows. Excuse my ignorance here, but what constitutes "free painting"? There are a bunch of IG photos of her looking at a computer screen of a woman while she paints that image on a canvas. I think they're getting at the fact that she's actually putting brush to canvas to create as opposed to digitally rendering a woman onto a printer. Even Da Vinci had a model for the Mona Lisa
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by nighthawk on Mar 15, 2016 15:31:09 GMT 1, i'll regret opening this can of worms. But as a free painting artist. ie. give any artists in the scene a blank canvas and some paint brushes and some paint.. and i think she stands up very well. i really dont know anymore what artists out there are free painting.. vs computer images, hired help, assistants, etc, etc. Sandra seems very talented to me. is she riding one pony too long? who knows... that miro guy filled a whole career of squiggles. sera, katz, sultan, baechler, the list would go on... of artists that rode a theme for a good long while.. good / bad// who knows. Very well said daveart! Sandra is one well of a talented artist. Whether you like her style or work or not, is a whole other matter.
i'll regret opening this can of worms. But as a free painting artist. ie. give any artists in the scene a blank canvas and some paint brushes and some paint.. and i think she stands up very well. i really dont know anymore what artists out there are free painting.. vs computer images, hired help, assistants, etc, etc. Sandra seems very talented to me. is she riding one pony too long? who knows... that miro guy filled a whole career of squiggles. sera, katz, sultan, baechler, the list would go on... of artists that rode a theme for a good long while.. good / bad// who knows. Very well said daveart! Sandra is one well of a talented artist. Whether you like her style or work or not, is a whole other matter.
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by docean on Mar 15, 2016 18:21:29 GMT 1, I think it's a real shame that the decision to do a time limited edition is being seen by some as a cash grab. She can't really win can she? People moan that her limited editions sell out instantly but having tried to remedy that, other (the same!?) people then moan that it's just about the moolah! Maybe it's just a sad indictment of modern times that some folk seem happy to b**ch about things rather than just getting on with life. Whether you like her work or not, she's entitled to earn a living just like the rest of us...
it's not the fact that she did an open edition, it's the price she set it at
I think it's a real shame that the decision to do a time limited edition is being seen by some as a cash grab. She can't really win can she? People moan that her limited editions sell out instantly but having tried to remedy that, other (the same!?) people then moan that it's just about the moolah! Maybe it's just a sad indictment of modern times that some folk seem happy to b**ch about things rather than just getting on with life. Whether you like her work or not, she's entitled to earn a living just like the rest of us... it's not the fact that she did an open edition, it's the price she set it at
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by soulseeker on Mar 15, 2016 18:36:56 GMT 1, I think it's a real shame that the decision to do a time limited edition is being seen by some as a cash grab. She can't really win can she? People moan that her limited editions sell out instantly but having tried to remedy that, other (the same!?) people then moan that it's just about the moolah! Maybe it's just a sad indictment of modern times that some folk seem happy to b**ch about things rather than just getting on with life. Whether you like her work or not, she's entitled to earn a living just like the rest of us... it's not the fact that she did an open edition, it's the price she set it at My point exactly davidpesek
I think it's a real shame that the decision to do a time limited edition is being seen by some as a cash grab. She can't really win can she? People moan that her limited editions sell out instantly but having tried to remedy that, other (the same!?) people then moan that it's just about the moolah! Maybe it's just a sad indictment of modern times that some folk seem happy to b**ch about things rather than just getting on with life. Whether you like her work or not, she's entitled to earn a living just like the rest of us... it's not the fact that she did an open edition, it's the price she set it at My point exactly davidpesek
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by nighthawk on Mar 15, 2016 19:08:00 GMT 1, And right back to my original point: it's hard to think that $100 bucks (this is the amount that almost everyone feels she went over by), or about 60 quid, has everyone's knickers in a bunch! Other comparable artists sell their timed editions for $200 or so, and their limited edition lower run drops, are normally cheaper than Sandra's by...you guessed it, about $100. Nobody ever complains about their timed editions and they sell over 1000 editions.
You don't think that her and JP thought this out a bit beforehand?
And right back to my original point: it's hard to think that $100 bucks (this is the amount that almost everyone feels she went over by), or about 60 quid, has everyone's knickers in a bunch! Other comparable artists sell their timed editions for $200 or so, and their limited edition lower run drops, are normally cheaper than Sandra's by...you guessed it, about $100. Nobody ever complains about their timed editions and they sell over 1000 editions.
You don't think that her and JP thought this out a bit beforehand?
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by soulseeker on Mar 15, 2016 20:42:32 GMT 1, And right back to my original point: it's hard to think that $100 bucks (this is the amount that almost everyone feels she went over by), or about 60 quid, has everyone's knickers in a bunch! Other comparable artists sell their timed editions for $200 or so, and their limited edition lower run drops, are normally cheaper than Sandra's by...you guessed it, about $100. Nobody ever complains about their timed editions and they sell over 1000 editions. You don't think that her and JP thought this out a bit beforehand? Well, my knickers aren't exactly in a twist (as we say here in the UK;) ). At the end of the day an artist has the right to charge whatever they like, agreed, but equally, the buyers or potential buyers may well think and freely express (for whatever reason) that the price is not in line with the actual product offering in their opinion (as many have expressed here) and that, therefore, a time limited edition is in fact rather more 'limited' by the price factor than was originally suggested/thought/assumed - whatever. Remember, the price was only made public after a few weeks hype re the print.
Believe it or not, $100 bucks (probably more like £70 pounds + shipping + related import costs) is a lot of money to many of the artist's followers I know, who don't actually frequent this forum, and who had hoped to secure a piece of her art for their wall and could not afford or either secure an LE print previously. This created dissapointment (could never spell that word!) for many I know - just saying.
And yes, why print 1000 s and please most of your followers at a lower more accessible price as opposed to selling a lower overall quantity at a higher price to gain the same money at the end of the day, eh?!! That delicate balance between supply and demand; profits and keeping buyers happy is forever in flux
And right back to my original point: it's hard to think that $100 bucks (this is the amount that almost everyone feels she went over by), or about 60 quid, has everyone's knickers in a bunch! Other comparable artists sell their timed editions for $200 or so, and their limited edition lower run drops, are normally cheaper than Sandra's by...you guessed it, about $100. Nobody ever complains about their timed editions and they sell over 1000 editions. You don't think that her and JP thought this out a bit beforehand? Well, my knickers aren't exactly in a twist (as we say here in the UK;) ). At the end of the day an artist has the right to charge whatever they like, agreed, but equally, the buyers or potential buyers may well think and freely express (for whatever reason) that the price is not in line with the actual product offering in their opinion (as many have expressed here) and that, therefore, a time limited edition is in fact rather more 'limited' by the price factor than was originally suggested/thought/assumed - whatever. Remember, the price was only made public after a few weeks hype re the print. Believe it or not, $100 bucks (probably more like £70 pounds + shipping + related import costs) is a lot of money to many of the artist's followers I know, who don't actually frequent this forum, and who had hoped to secure a piece of her art for their wall and could not afford or either secure an LE print previously. This created dissapointment (could never spell that word!) for many I know - just saying. And yes, why print 1000 s and please most of your followers at a lower more accessible price as opposed to selling a lower overall quantity at a higher price to gain the same money at the end of the day, eh?!! That delicate balance between supply and demand; profits and keeping buyers happy is forever in flux
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by nighthawk on Mar 16, 2016 16:56:58 GMT 1, Honestly, if $95 is a deal breaker for people, I'd say those people shouldn't be spending the money at all.
James Jean is releasing ANOTHER timed edition, (seems to be all he does these days), and again, it's $200 + shipping etc. Let's see how "pissed" people get over this one
Honestly, if $95 is a deal breaker for people, I'd say those people shouldn't be spending the money at all. James Jean is releasing ANOTHER timed edition, (seems to be all he does these days), and again, it's $200 + shipping etc. Let's see how "pissed" people get over this one
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Sandra Chevrier • La cage et la dignité, by soulseeker on Mar 17, 2016 5:29:07 GMT 1, Honestly, if $95 is a deal breaker for people, I'd say those people shouldn't be spending the money at all. James Jean is releasing ANOTHER timed edition, (seems to be all he does these days), and again, it's $200 + shipping etc. Let's see how "pissed" people get over this one
Let them eat cake!!!
Honestly, if $95 is a deal breaker for people, I'd say those people shouldn't be spending the money at all. James Jean is releasing ANOTHER timed edition, (seems to be all he does these days), and again, it's $200 + shipping etc. Let's see how "pissed" people get over this one Let them eat cake!!!
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