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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by njr911 on Dec 5, 2007 14:25:39 GMT 1, .....and hot sister too!! ;D
She is hot !!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by sham69 on Dec 5, 2007 14:30:41 GMT 1, Top post Bob as well.
Won't bother to comment as I'd be way out of my depth.
Except to ask: I take it it's distributive justice that brings about the peace and not the retributive kind?
goffyxtc, I can't agree with you regarding the opinion front. It's what gives the forum some life, I for one will come out of this thing a little wiser.
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Will Durant: Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
Top post Bob as well.
Won't bother to comment as I'd be way out of my depth.
Except to ask: I take it it's distributive justice that brings about the peace and not the retributive kind?
goffyxtc, I can't agree with you regarding the opinion front. It's what gives the forum some life, I for one will come out of this thing a little wiser.
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Will Durant: Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by shogun on Dec 5, 2007 14:34:01 GMT 1, Well the wall is all about making the largest concentration camp in the world... without wanting to condone anything that is going on in the middle east, good or bad, that comment about nazi germany is f ucking disgusting. i hope to all eternity that neither yourself, your family or anyone you ever know or care about has to ever experience anything even close to what happened during the holocaust. sick c unt. 
So you were offended by the line: "Is anyone defending Nazi Germany". So your offended when I say the Israeli's are building a concentration camp for the Palestinians....
Its funny that, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu made a comparison of Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the treatment of Black South Africans under apartheid, so your going to call him a sick cunt aswell?
As for the Stern gang (please wiki them) they even offered to work with the Nazi's and fight the British. But we only like to look back at the points in history that serve us best dont we.
Closet Zionest by any chance?
Well the wall is all about making the largest concentration camp in the world... without wanting to condone anything that is going on in the middle east, good or bad, that comment about nazi germany is f ucking disgusting. i hope to all eternity that neither yourself, your family or anyone you ever know or care about has to ever experience anything even close to what happened during the holocaust. sick c unt. So you were offended by the line: "Is anyone defending Nazi Germany". So your offended when I say the Israeli's are building a concentration camp for the Palestinians.... Its funny that, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu made a comparison of Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the treatment of Black South Africans under apartheid, so your going to call him a sick cunt aswell? As for the Stern gang (please wiki them) they even offered to work with the Nazi's and fight the British. But we only like to look back at the points in history that serve us best dont we. Closet Zionest by any chance? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by anthoz on Dec 5, 2007 14:38:47 GMT 1, without wanting to condone anything that is going on in the middle east, good or bad, that comment about nazi germany is f ucking disgusting. i hope to all eternity that neither yourself, your family or anyone you ever know or care about has to ever experience anything even close to what happened during the holocaust. sick c unt. So you were offended by the line: "Is anyone defending Nazi Germany". So your offended when I say the Israeli's are building a concentration camp for the Palestinians.... Its funny that, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu made a comparison of Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the treatment of Black South Africans under apartheid, so your going to call him a sick c**t aswell? As for the Stern gang (please wiki them) they even offered to work with the Nazi's and fight the British. But we only like to look back at the points in history that serve us best dont we. Closet Zionest by any chance?
closet racist by any chance shogun?
without wanting to condone anything that is going on in the middle east, good or bad, that comment about nazi germany is f ucking disgusting. i hope to all eternity that neither yourself, your family or anyone you ever know or care about has to ever experience anything even close to what happened during the holocaust. sick c unt. So you were offended by the line: "Is anyone defending Nazi Germany". So your offended when I say the Israeli's are building a concentration camp for the Palestinians.... Its funny that, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu made a comparison of Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the treatment of Black South Africans under apartheid, so your going to call him a sick c**t aswell? As for the Stern gang (please wiki them) they even offered to work with the Nazi's and fight the British. But we only like to look back at the points in history that serve us best dont we. Closet Zionest by any chance? closet racist by any chance shogun? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by lesbianwednesdays on Dec 5, 2007 14:41:55 GMT 1, shogun, grow up.
my point, if you care to look beyond the end of your nose is that to liken anything to the murder of 6 million jews is sick.
it's an all too common source of comparison, for a lot of things, but there is no comparison. what occurred during the second world war has no comparables, not even yugoslavia.
to accuse me of being a zionist just because you don't like me taking offence to systematic genocide just further compounds my opinion that you are a complete cunt.
shogun, grow up.
my point, if you care to look beyond the end of your nose is that to liken anything to the murder of 6 million jews is sick.
it's an all too common source of comparison, for a lot of things, but there is no comparison. what occurred during the second world war has no comparables, not even yugoslavia.
to accuse me of being a zionist just because you don't like me taking offence to systematic genocide just further compounds my opinion that you are a complete cunt.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by robgee on Dec 5, 2007 14:42:23 GMT 1, Its funny that, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu made a comparison of Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the treatment of Black South Africans under apartheid, so your going to call him a sick c**t aswell?
Just becasue he's got a funny name doesn't mean he's right
Its funny that, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu made a comparison of Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the treatment of Black South Africans under apartheid, so your going to call him a sick c**t aswell? Just becasue he's got a funny name doesn't mean he's right |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by anthoz on Dec 5, 2007 14:42:55 GMT 1, seems to be that i should second the motion that shogun is indeed a cunt of the complete variety
seems to be that i should second the motion that shogun is indeed a cunt of the complete variety
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 5, 2007 14:43:14 GMT 1, please lets not let this debate turn nasty. We all have our opinions, some clearly far more educated than others but I have enjoyed reading the different arguments.
Like Bob said don't take his or anyone's word for gospel, research and make your own minds up, but it's nice to have a debate.
I guess the reason this is such a heated topic is because people feel passionately either way but I think we should be careful with our choice of wording as this is such a delicate subject.
Peace
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please lets not let this debate turn nasty. We all have our opinions, some clearly far more educated than others but I have enjoyed reading the different arguments.
Like Bob said don't take his or anyone's word for gospel, research and make your own minds up, but it's nice to have a debate.
I guess the reason this is such a heated topic is because people feel passionately either way but I think we should be careful with our choice of wording as this is such a delicate subject.
Peace
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by shogun on Dec 5, 2007 14:43:39 GMT 1, So you were offended by the line: "Is anyone defending Nazi Germany". So your offended when I say the Israeli's are building a concentration camp for the Palestinians.... Its funny that, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu made a comparison of Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the treatment of Black South Africans under apartheid, so your going to call him a sick c**t aswell? As for the Stern gang (please wiki them) they even offered to work with the Nazi's and fight the British. But we only like to look back at the points in history that serve us best dont we. Closet Zionest by any chance? closet racist by any chance shogun?
How is this racist?
I hate it when people say Israel and Jewish people are one. They are not. Infact many Jews are against the state of Israel. (http://www.nkusa.org/)
Please point out anything I wrote that was racist?
After WW2 did we stay in Germany and build houses where we wanted and kick the locals to the side. Or did we help build Germany up again?
So you were offended by the line: "Is anyone defending Nazi Germany". So your offended when I say the Israeli's are building a concentration camp for the Palestinians.... Its funny that, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu made a comparison of Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the treatment of Black South Africans under apartheid, so your going to call him a sick c**t aswell? As for the Stern gang (please wiki them) they even offered to work with the Nazi's and fight the British. But we only like to look back at the points in history that serve us best dont we. Closet Zionest by any chance? closet racist by any chance shogun? How is this racist? I hate it when people say Israel and Jewish people are one. They are not. Infact many Jews are against the state of Israel. (http://www.nkusa.org/) Please point out anything I wrote that was racist?After WW2 did we stay in Germany and build houses where we wanted and kick the locals to the side. Or did we help build Germany up again? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by shogun on Dec 5, 2007 14:47:25 GMT 1, shogun, grow up. my point, if you care to look beyond the end of your nose is that to liken anything to the murder of 6 million jews is sick. it's an all too common source of comparison, for a lot of things, but there is no comparison. what occurred during the second world war has no comparables, not even yugoslavia. to accuse me of being a zionist just because you don't like me taking offence to systematic genocide just further compounds my opinion that you are a complete c unt.
You say grow up but then call me a cunt. You make me laugh. You yourself made the comparison. My comparison is about people being mistreated.
Are you telling me the Palestinians are not being mistreated? If you want to debate to it right instead of jumping to conclusions.
shogun, grow up. my point, if you care to look beyond the end of your nose is that to liken anything to the murder of 6 million jews is sick. it's an all too common source of comparison, for a lot of things, but there is no comparison. what occurred during the second world war has no comparables, not even yugoslavia. to accuse me of being a zionist just because you don't like me taking offence to systematic genocide just further compounds my opinion that you are a complete c unt. You say grow up but then call me a cunt. You make me laugh. You yourself made the comparison. My comparison is about people being mistreated. Are you telling me the Palestinians are not being mistreated? If you want to debate to it right instead of jumping to conclusions. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mike hunt on Dec 5, 2007 14:49:18 GMT 1,
These are fantastic - particularly like the image of the 2 donkeys pulling against each other. Summarises the situation well.
These are fantastic - particularly like the image of the 2 donkeys pulling against each other. Summarises the situation well. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by anthoz on Dec 5, 2007 14:49:49 GMT 1, oh shogun please dont make me yawn
im so tired of the argument that antizionist does not mean antisemitic
would it be ok to say that the country of england was a disgrace, that it was responsible for behaving like nazis and then say oh ...but the english people are really nice?
would you be happy to accept that argument on your own doorstep? perhaps not me thinks
as far as my point of view is, having lived in the region, through wars and bombs the arguments of the lamen are totally misguided. this is a case of chicken and egg, he started it, no he did....who bombed who first
problem is the answer lies in the dust about 3 thousand years ago, this is history repeating. It is sad and awful on both sides, there are no winners here, only people who lose out more than others.
In conculsion and to anyone who read shoguns comments that did lose family in the holocaust i apologise, there can be no biggger insult than to compare a possibly unjust occupation with the systematic murder of 6,000,000 people.
oh shogun please dont make me yawn
im so tired of the argument that antizionist does not mean antisemitic
would it be ok to say that the country of england was a disgrace, that it was responsible for behaving like nazis and then say oh ...but the english people are really nice?
would you be happy to accept that argument on your own doorstep? perhaps not me thinks
as far as my point of view is, having lived in the region, through wars and bombs the arguments of the lamen are totally misguided. this is a case of chicken and egg, he started it, no he did....who bombed who first
problem is the answer lies in the dust about 3 thousand years ago, this is history repeating. It is sad and awful on both sides, there are no winners here, only people who lose out more than others.
In conculsion and to anyone who read shoguns comments that did lose family in the holocaust i apologise, there can be no biggger insult than to compare a possibly unjust occupation with the systematic murder of 6,000,000 people.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by andib on Dec 5, 2007 14:50:03 GMT 1, I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that 'concentration camp' is a generic term for a type of incarceration first employed by the British during the Boer War. Like most generic terms, it depends upon the context it is applied in. I'm sure I can stand to be corrected.
I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that 'concentration camp' is a generic term for a type of incarceration first employed by the British during the Boer War. Like most generic terms, it depends upon the context it is applied in. I'm sure I can stand to be corrected.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by anthoz on Dec 5, 2007 14:52:35 GMT 1, glad that post was removed
some pictures dont need to be shown
glad that post was removed
some pictures dont need to be shown
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by shogun on Dec 5, 2007 14:53:00 GMT 1, oh shogun please dont make me yawn im so tired of the argument that antizionist does not mean antisemitic would it be ok to say that the country of england was a disgrace, that it was responsible for behaving like nazis and then say oh ...but the english people are really nice? would you be happy to accept that argument on your own doorstep? perhaps not me thinks as far as my point of view is, having lived in the region, through wars and bombs the arguments of the lamen are totally misguided. this is a case of chicken and egg, he started it, no he did....who bombed who first problem is the answer lies in the dust about 3 thousand years ago, this is history repeating. It is sad and awful on both sides, there are no winners here, only people who lose out more than others. In conculsion and to anyone who read shoguns comments that did lose family in the holocaust i apologise, there can be no biggger insult than to compare a possibly unjust occupation with the systematic murder of 6,000,000 people.
'possibly unjust occupation'
oh shogun please dont make me yawn im so tired of the argument that antizionist does not mean antisemitic would it be ok to say that the country of england was a disgrace, that it was responsible for behaving like nazis and then say oh ...but the english people are really nice? would you be happy to accept that argument on your own doorstep? perhaps not me thinks as far as my point of view is, having lived in the region, through wars and bombs the arguments of the lamen are totally misguided. this is a case of chicken and egg, he started it, no he did....who bombed who first problem is the answer lies in the dust about 3 thousand years ago, this is history repeating. It is sad and awful on both sides, there are no winners here, only people who lose out more than others. In conculsion and to anyone who read shoguns comments that did lose family in the holocaust i apologise, there can be no biggger insult than to compare a possibly unjust occupation with the systematic murder of 6,000,000 people. 'possibly unjust occupation' |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by numusic on Dec 5, 2007 14:54:41 GMT 1, lol, how good is that snowman, bast?
Indeed, btw, maybe it's time for anyone thinking of buying a BAST to get the 2 still available on POW, still only 20 quid a piece ! ideal Xmas present for the Thug in your life.
lol, how good is that snowman, bast? Indeed, btw, maybe it's time for anyone thinking of buying a BAST to get the 2 still available on POW, still only 20 quid a piece ! ideal Xmas present for the Thug in your life. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by anthoz on Dec 5, 2007 14:54:47 GMT 1, always nice to have an educated debate with someone on an equal intellectual level shogun
your response is so complete in its scope of language i have no response
always nice to have an educated debate with someone on an equal intellectual level shogun
your response is so complete in its scope of language i have no response
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by frank11 on Dec 5, 2007 14:56:06 GMT 1, glad that post was removed some pictures dont need to be shown
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by corblimeylimey on Dec 5, 2007 14:56:58 GMT 1, oh shogun please dont make me yawn im so tired of the argument that antizionist does not mean antisemitic would it be ok to say that the country of england was a disgrace, that it was responsible for behaving like nazis and then say oh ...but the english people are really nice? would you be happy to accept that argument on your own doorstep? perhaps not me thinks as far as my point of view is, having lived in the region, through wars and bombs the arguments of the lamen are totally misguided. this is a case of chicken and egg, he started it, no he did....who bombed who first problem is the answer lies in the dust about 3 thousand years ago, this is history repeating. It is sad and awful on both sides, there are no winners here, only people who lose out more than others. In conculsion and to anyone who read shoguns comments that did lose family in the holocaust i apologise, there can be no biggger insult than to compare a possibly unjust occupation with the systematic murder of 6,000,000 people.
I can clearly see which side you're on.
"possibly unjust occupation" 
There is a difference about anti-zionist & anti-semitic which can only be applied to Israeli's and Jews and not to England and the English or to any other nation and nationals.
oh shogun please dont make me yawn im so tired of the argument that antizionist does not mean antisemitic would it be ok to say that the country of england was a disgrace, that it was responsible for behaving like nazis and then say oh ...but the english people are really nice? would you be happy to accept that argument on your own doorstep? perhaps not me thinks as far as my point of view is, having lived in the region, through wars and bombs the arguments of the lamen are totally misguided. this is a case of chicken and egg, he started it, no he did....who bombed who first problem is the answer lies in the dust about 3 thousand years ago, this is history repeating. It is sad and awful on both sides, there are no winners here, only people who lose out more than others. In conculsion and to anyone who read shoguns comments that did lose family in the holocaust i apologise, there can be no biggger insult than to compare a possibly unjust occupation with the systematic murder of 6,000,000 people. I can clearly see which side you're on. "possibly unjust occupation" There is a difference about anti-zionist & anti-semitic which can only be applied to Israeli's and Jews and not to England and the English or to any other nation and nationals. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by loucastel on Dec 5, 2007 14:56:59 GMT 1, Cheers for negging me Shogun, the only way to express yourself is to do that, thankfully im an adult.
Cheers for negging me Shogun, the only way to express yourself is to do that, thankfully im an adult.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by anthoz on Dec 5, 2007 14:57:57 GMT 1, cheers frank11
was starting to think the forum was turning on me
ive been negged 3 times simply for not agreeing with certain points of view on the so called 'israeli concentration camps'
im not sure if this was banksys aim in the first place but ive lost faith in this forum for the first time ever
how deeply sad 
cheers frank11 was starting to think the forum was turning on me ive been negged 3 times simply for not agreeing with certain points of view on the so called 'israeli concentration camps' im not sure if this was banksys aim in the first place but ive lost faith in this forum for the first time ever how deeply sad |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by lesbianwednesdays on Dec 5, 2007 14:59:53 GMT 1, I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that 'concentration camp' is a generic term for a type of incarceration first employed by the British during the Boer War. Like most generic terms, it depends upon the context it is applied in. I'm sure I can stand to be corrected.
shogun made direct comparisons to nazi germany, ie the holocaust. i took great exception to that with much justification i might add:
Its funny how people are defending Israel's actions. Is anyone defending Nazi Germany? What do you expect the Palestinians to do roll over and die? One mans terrorist... As for Israel - some of their factions were even considered terrorists by Britain (wiki Stern gang. They were even awarded medals years later).
Well the wall is all about making the largest concentration camp in the world...
please lets not let this debate turn nasty. We all have our opinions, some clearly far more educated than others but I have enjoyed reading the different arguments. Like Bob said don't take his or anyone's word for gospel, research and make your own minds up, but it's nice to have a debate. I guess the reason this is such a heated topic is because people feel passionately either way but I think we should be careful with our choice of wording as this is such a delicate subject. Peace V
i totally agree, i'm not defending anyone or laying blame at anyone's door. my point is it is clearly wrong to start drawing comparisons to the holacaust, no matter how strongly you feel.
i'm not pro or anti anyone, i don't know enough about the situation to judge but i stand by my opinion of shogun.
I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that 'concentration camp' is a generic term for a type of incarceration first employed by the British during the Boer War. Like most generic terms, it depends upon the context it is applied in. I'm sure I can stand to be corrected. shogun made direct comparisons to nazi germany, ie the holocaust. i took great exception to that with much justification i might add: Its funny how people are defending Israel's actions. Is anyone defending Nazi Germany? What do you expect the Palestinians to do roll over and die? One mans terrorist... As for Israel - some of their factions were even considered terrorists by Britain (wiki Stern gang. They were even awarded medals years later). Well the wall is all about making the largest concentration camp in the world... please lets not let this debate turn nasty. We all have our opinions, some clearly far more educated than others but I have enjoyed reading the different arguments. Like Bob said don't take his or anyone's word for gospel, research and make your own minds up, but it's nice to have a debate. I guess the reason this is such a heated topic is because people feel passionately either way but I think we should be careful with our choice of wording as this is such a delicate subject. Peace V i totally agree, i'm not defending anyone or laying blame at anyone's door. my point is it is clearly wrong to start drawing comparisons to the holacaust, no matter how strongly you feel. i'm not pro or anti anyone, i don't know enough about the situation to judge but i stand by my opinion of shogun. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mike hunt on Dec 5, 2007 15:01:37 GMT 1, [/quote]
You say grow up but then call me a c**t. You make me laugh. You yourself made the comparison. My comparison is about people being mistreated.
Are you telling me the Palestinians are not being mistreated? If you want to debate to it right instead of jumping to conclusions.
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'Mistreatment' is not the same as genocide. If you apply the term ghetto, then look up the warsaw ghetto. Even then, there's no comparison. That's why people are getting offended - the comparison is not accurate and attempts to demonise one side suggests that only one side can cure this situation. This is not the case. Political co-operation backed by outspoken support for peace by the people on both sides is the only answer.
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You say grow up but then call me a c**t. You make me laugh. You yourself made the comparison. My comparison is about people being mistreated.
Are you telling me the Palestinians are not being mistreated? If you want to debate to it right instead of jumping to conclusions.
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'Mistreatment' is not the same as genocide. If you apply the term ghetto, then look up the warsaw ghetto. Even then, there's no comparison. That's why people are getting offended - the comparison is not accurate and attempts to demonise one side suggests that only one side can cure this situation. This is not the case. Political co-operation backed by outspoken support for peace by the people on both sides is the only answer.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 5, 2007 15:02:06 GMT 1, I agree, It's not correct to compare the holocaust to the unjust occupation of Palestine, the holocaust is the most disgusting atrocitiy to have taken place in human history...of course there have been countless others the ethnic clensing of the native amricans, Hiroshima....
However to then move on, as you did, anthoz and say that anti-Zionism is in effect anti-Semitism is factually incorrect. read Bob's post for some clarification. I am not anti-Semitic, I said in an earlier post, I could never hate because of someone race, religion, creed, sexuality etc.. But I can stand up against unjust immoral actions, ie the Israeli apartheid wall and the flouting of 250 UN resolutions....etc
This does not make me anti-semitic, because I do not hate Jews, I am against the actions of the Israeli government, who I feel brainwash their citizens by telling them what they are doing is for their benefit, but to build a wall and starve people of their livelihoods, to bomb them, to humiliate them, whether these are reactions to suicide bombings, will never bring about peace, it will create more disillusioned, traumatised Palestinians who will turn to violent means to make their point. As bob said the vast majority of people in Palestine are peace loving and try to get on with their lives.
Peace.
I agree, It's not correct to compare the holocaust to the unjust occupation of Palestine, the holocaust is the most disgusting atrocitiy to have taken place in human history...of course there have been countless others the ethnic clensing of the native amricans, Hiroshima....
However to then move on, as you did, anthoz and say that anti-Zionism is in effect anti-Semitism is factually incorrect. read Bob's post for some clarification. I am not anti-Semitic, I said in an earlier post, I could never hate because of someone race, religion, creed, sexuality etc.. But I can stand up against unjust immoral actions, ie the Israeli apartheid wall and the flouting of 250 UN resolutions....etc
This does not make me anti-semitic, because I do not hate Jews, I am against the actions of the Israeli government, who I feel brainwash their citizens by telling them what they are doing is for their benefit, but to build a wall and starve people of their livelihoods, to bomb them, to humiliate them, whether these are reactions to suicide bombings, will never bring about peace, it will create more disillusioned, traumatised Palestinians who will turn to violent means to make their point. As bob said the vast majority of people in Palestine are peace loving and try to get on with their lives.
Peace.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by anthoz on Dec 5, 2007 15:04:41 GMT 1, war is kind of about history if you think about it
i mean if we in england had a threat on our doorstep from a neighbouring country we would never starve it of life and build a wall separating us from it?
wait ....hold on we did...
shame banksy wasnt around in hadrians time
war is kind of about history if you think about it
i mean if we in england had a threat on our doorstep from a neighbouring country we would never starve it of life and build a wall separating us from it?
wait ....hold on we did...
shame banksy wasnt around in hadrians time
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by corblimeylimey on Dec 5, 2007 15:06:37 GMT 1, I agree, It's not correct to compare the holocaust to the unjust occupation of Palestine, the holocaust is the most disgusting atrocitiy to have taken place in human history...of course there have been countless others the ethnic clensing of the native amricans, Hiroshima.... However to then move on, as you did, anthoz and say that anti-Zionism is in effect anti-Semitism is factually incorrect. read Bob's post for some clarification. I am not anti-Semitic, I said in an earlier post, I could never hate because of someone race, religion, creed, sexuality etc.. But I can stand up against unjust immoral actions, ie the Israeli apartheid wall and the flouting of 250 UN resolutions....etc This does not make me anti-semitic, because I do not hate Jews, I am against the actions of the Israeli government, who I feel brainwash their citizens by telling them what they are doing is for their benefit, but to build a wall and starve people of their livelihoods, to bomb them, to humiliate them, whether these are reactions to suicide bombings, will never bring about peace, it will create more disillusioned, traumatised Palestinians who will turn to violent means to make their point. As bob said the vast majority of people in Palestine are peace loving and try to get on with their lives. Peace.
Hear hear.
I agree, It's not correct to compare the holocaust to the unjust occupation of Palestine, the holocaust is the most disgusting atrocitiy to have taken place in human history...of course there have been countless others the ethnic clensing of the native amricans, Hiroshima.... However to then move on, as you did, anthoz and say that anti-Zionism is in effect anti-Semitism is factually incorrect. read Bob's post for some clarification. I am not anti-Semitic, I said in an earlier post, I could never hate because of someone race, religion, creed, sexuality etc.. But I can stand up against unjust immoral actions, ie the Israeli apartheid wall and the flouting of 250 UN resolutions....etc This does not make me anti-semitic, because I do not hate Jews, I am against the actions of the Israeli government, who I feel brainwash their citizens by telling them what they are doing is for their benefit, but to build a wall and starve people of their livelihoods, to bomb them, to humiliate them, whether these are reactions to suicide bombings, will never bring about peace, it will create more disillusioned, traumatised Palestinians who will turn to violent means to make their point. As bob said the vast majority of people in Palestine are peace loving and try to get on with their lives. Peace. Hear hear. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mike hunt on Dec 5, 2007 15:07:34 GMT 1, I agree, It's not correct to compare the holocaust to the unjust occupation of Palestine, the holocaust is the most disgusting atrocitiy to have taken place in human history...of course there have been countless others the ethnic clensing of the native amricans, Hiroshima.... whether these are reactions to suicide bombings, will never bring about peace, it will create more disillusioned, traumatised Palestinians who will turn to violent means to make their point. As bob said the vast majority of people in Palestine are peace loving and try to get on with their lives. Peace.
Well said. I agree with a lot of what you said there, and I think you make your points well, even though i disagree with some. Its okay to disagree but we want the same end, and are willing to entertain other points of view. Loucastel - I don't think you said anything out of order, so have given you +1 back
I agree, It's not correct to compare the holocaust to the unjust occupation of Palestine, the holocaust is the most disgusting atrocitiy to have taken place in human history...of course there have been countless others the ethnic clensing of the native amricans, Hiroshima.... whether these are reactions to suicide bombings, will never bring about peace, it will create more disillusioned, traumatised Palestinians who will turn to violent means to make their point. As bob said the vast majority of people in Palestine are peace loving and try to get on with their lives. Peace. Well said. I agree with a lot of what you said there, and I think you make your points well, even though i disagree with some. Its okay to disagree but we want the same end, and are willing to entertain other points of view. Loucastel - I don't think you said anything out of order, so have given you +1 back |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by loucastel on Dec 5, 2007 15:10:52 GMT 1, Cheers Mike, I think at the end of the day all everybody wants is for people to live in peace, can dream cant we?
Cheers Mike, I think at the end of the day all everybody wants is for people to live in peace, can dream cant we?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by giiiant on Dec 5, 2007 15:13:12 GMT 1, The word "cunt" has now lost all meaning to me. Must have seen it about 400 times in this thread alone. I'm sorry, but whatever point you're trying to get across loses all credibility when its laced with asterisks.
Just throwin it out there
The word "cunt" has now lost all meaning to me. Must have seen it about 400 times in this thread alone. I'm sorry, but whatever point you're trying to get across loses all credibility when its laced with asterisks.
Just throwin it out there
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