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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by lesbianwednesdays on Dec 5, 2007 15:14:36 GMT 1, bunnyboiler, i read that piece, very interesting. i take it that very same ariel sharon went on to be israeli prime minister? shocking.
there are some parts without citation but it's still an awful, harrowing event.
bunnyboiler, i read that piece, very interesting. i take it that very same ariel sharon went on to be israeli prime minister? shocking.
there are some parts without citation but it's still an awful, harrowing event.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 5, 2007 15:15:05 GMT 1, cheers CBL. 
to be fair I am glad to see some political debate on the forum, it has in the past been met with hostility, but Banksy has obviously worked his magic and this has allowed us to have a fair debate about a very serious issue, that of the need for a viable Palestinian homeland, don't hold my breath for Tony Blair sorting it out though....who the hell made him Middle east Peace envoy? I'm still waiting to hear...April fools...we gotcha didn't we, of course he's not a peace envoy he's a lunatic!
hehe
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cheers CBL. to be fair I am glad to see some political debate on the forum, it has in the past been met with hostility, but Banksy has obviously worked his magic and this has allowed us to have a fair debate about a very serious issue, that of the need for a viable Palestinian homeland, don't hold my breath for Tony Blair sorting it out though....who the hell made him Middle east Peace envoy? I'm still waiting to hear...April fools...we gotcha didn't we, of course he's not a peace envoy he's a lunatic! hehe V |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mike hunt on Dec 5, 2007 15:18:15 GMT 1, The revolution starts here! Anthoz - sorry you got negged so much - if I had any + left I'd hand it over. I think this thread should be renamed the neg thread. Hadrians wall? Belfast probably still has walls with massive, scary, politically charged paintings on them.
The revolution starts here! Anthoz - sorry you got negged so much - if I had any + left I'd hand it over. I think this thread should be renamed the neg thread. Hadrians wall? Belfast probably still has walls with massive, scary, politically charged paintings on them.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by lesbianwednesdays on Dec 5, 2007 15:19:05 GMT 1, The word "c**t" has now lost all meaning to me. Must have seen it about 400 times in this thread alone. I'm sorry, but whatever point you're trying to get across loses all credibility when its laced with asterisks. Just throwin it out there
no asterisks here, perhaps you'd like to consider the subject more than the langauge?
i appreciated the -1 whoever you may be 
The word "c**t" has now lost all meaning to me. Must have seen it about 400 times in this thread alone. I'm sorry, but whatever point you're trying to get across loses all credibility when its laced with asterisks. Just throwin it out there no asterisks here, perhaps you'd like to consider the subject more than the langauge? i appreciated the -1 whoever you may be |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by spirit on Dec 5, 2007 15:19:21 GMT 1, I'm really starting to wonder if getting everyone to focus on and debate this issue is actually a good thing. For the most part it seems to make people take one side or the other, focus on their differences and then start arguing with and insulting each other.
The fact is, both sides are right and both sides are wrong. Both are the victims and perpetrators of injustice and atrocity.
I'm really starting to wonder if getting everyone to focus on and debate this issue is actually a good thing. For the most part it seems to make people take one side or the other, focus on their differences and then start arguing with and insulting each other.
The fact is, both sides are right and both sides are wrong. Both are the victims and perpetrators of injustice and atrocity.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by robinbanks on Dec 5, 2007 15:20:27 GMT 1, I think it's great that this thread has opened up a debate about a very serious subject that I for one knew very little about - and I feel my eyes have certainly been opened. Although I still don't feel ready to make any judgment or comments of my own on the matter.
That said - does anyone else feel that this interesting and worthy debate should be moved to a different thread?
This thread was after all supposed to be about the Ghetto and the wonderful art and artists they have over there.
*bracing myself for mass neggage*
I think it's great that this thread has opened up a debate about a very serious subject that I for one knew very little about - and I feel my eyes have certainly been opened. Although I still don't feel ready to make any judgment or comments of my own on the matter.
That said - does anyone else feel that this interesting and worthy debate should be moved to a different thread?
This thread was after all supposed to be about the Ghetto and the wonderful art and artists they have over there.
*bracing myself for mass neggage*
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by robinbanks on Dec 5, 2007 15:21:38 GMT 1, I'm really starting to wonder if getting everyone to focus on and debate this issue is actually a good thing. For the most part it seems to make people take one side or the other, focus on their differences and then start arguing with and insulting each other. The fact is, both sides are right and both sides are wrong. Both are the victims and perpetrators of injustice and atrocity.
Yeah, that's what I was meaning about moving this thread. Seems to be a lot of bitching going on now.
I'm really starting to wonder if getting everyone to focus on and debate this issue is actually a good thing. For the most part it seems to make people take one side or the other, focus on their differences and then start arguing with and insulting each other. The fact is, both sides are right and both sides are wrong. Both are the victims and perpetrators of injustice and atrocity. Yeah, that's what I was meaning about moving this thread. Seems to be a lot of bitching going on now. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by frank11 on Dec 5, 2007 15:26:55 GMT 1, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS)
LOL truly pathetic 
IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS) LOL truly pathetic |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by numusic on Dec 5, 2007 15:26:58 GMT 1,
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mcnuts on Dec 5, 2007 15:29:27 GMT 1, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS)
even worse... you could email my mum!!!!!!
IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS) even worse... you could email my mum!!!!!! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mike hunt on Dec 5, 2007 15:31:44 GMT 1, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS) /quote] Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em!
IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS) /quote] Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 5, 2007 15:33:18 GMT 1, +1 nuart.
am speechless, nothing more needs to said really. It sums it up really doesn't it.
+1 nuart.
am speechless, nothing more needs to said really. It sums it up really doesn't it.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by finsburyparkranger on Dec 5, 2007 15:34:21 GMT 1,
The only real way of resolving conflict is to talk. Just try make it not personal. I'm very interested to hear views from both sides. Especially real personal experiences or ideas for a solutions. Anyway who's seen the new camel graf on the wall, it looks great (the one with two kids under on santasghetto.com). So nice to see the local people actually enjoying the experience of new art in their home town.
The only real way of resolving conflict is to talk. Just try make it not personal. I'm very interested to hear views from both sides. Especially real personal experiences or ideas for a solutions. Anyway who's seen the new camel graf on the wall, it looks great (the one with two kids under on santasghetto.com). So nice to see the local people actually enjoying the experience of new art in their home town.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by giiiant on Dec 5, 2007 15:37:14 GMT 1, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS) LOL truly pathetic
hahaha indeed
IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS) LOL truly pathetic hahaha indeed |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 5, 2007 15:38:03 GMT 1, yeah that new camel one is excellent, and the kids are so cute! they look pretty chuffed with it!
yeah that new camel one is excellent, and the kids are so cute! they look pretty chuffed with it!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by numusic on Dec 5, 2007 15:44:17 GMT 1, +1 nuart. am speechless, nothing more needs to said really. It sums it up really doesn't it.
Pictures speak a thousand words hey.. +1 to Banksy methinks.
A prophet asked God if there ever would be piece in the middle east."Yes" said God
"But not in my lifetime"
peace
+1 nuart. am speechless, nothing more needs to said really. It sums it up really doesn't it. Pictures speak a thousand words hey.. +1 to Banksy methinks. A prophet asked God if there ever would be piece in the middle east."Yes" said God "But not in my lifetime" peace |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by giiiant on Dec 5, 2007 15:44:54 GMT 1, no asterisks here, perhaps you'd like to consider the subject more than the langauge?
brb while i write a 4 paragraph long post explaining why you're wrong/why i'm right which will eventually take up another 6 pages of the thread and get everyone nowhere
or maybe i'll just paste this one more time:
BY THE WAY, SOME OF THE ABUSE GIVEN ON THIS AND THE BANKSY FORUM CAN BE CLASSED AS BULLYING AND VERBAL ABUSE. ONLINE BULLYING IS A REAL THING AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED FOR IT BEFORE.
IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS)
JUST A REMINDER, AS I WILL DO IT IF IT CARRIES ON AS IM DOING NOTHING WRONG.
YOU MAY WANT TO READ THIS:
www.cps.gov.uk/legal/section5/chapter_e.html
no asterisks here, perhaps you'd like to consider the subject more than the langauge? brb while i write a 4 paragraph long post explaining why you're wrong/why i'm right which will eventually take up another 6 pages of the thread and get everyone nowhere or maybe i'll just paste this one more time: BY THE WAY, SOME OF THE ABUSE GIVEN ON THIS AND THE BANKSY FORUM CAN BE CLASSED AS BULLYING AND VERBAL ABUSE. ONLINE BULLYING IS A REAL THING AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED FOR IT BEFORE. IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS) JUST A REMINDER, AS I WILL DO IT IF IT CARRIES ON AS IM DOING NOTHING WRONG. YOU MAY WANT TO READ THIS: www.cps.gov.uk/legal/section5/chapter_e.html |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 5, 2007 15:45:16 GMT 1, indeed +100 to Banksy!
indeed +100 to Banksy!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Daniel Silk on Dec 5, 2007 15:45:53 GMT 1, Has anyone here heard about that Santa's Ghetto thing?  Something to do with this - www.SantasGhetto.com
Has anyone here heard about that Santa's Ghetto thing? Something to do with this - www.SantasGhetto.com |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by spirit on Dec 5, 2007 15:46:15 GMT 1, +1 nuart. am speechless, nothing more needs to said really. It sums it up really doesn't it.
While undoubtedly tugging at the heart strings, this video certainly does not sum everything up. It is classic propaganda and only shows one side of the story. In order to sum everything up it would also need to include scenes such as the aftermath of suicide bombings on israeli busses and cafe's etc. There are 2 SIDES at WAR here and war is always f**king horrible and it's always the innocent that suffer most.
peace
+1 nuart. am speechless, nothing more needs to said really. It sums it up really doesn't it. While undoubtedly tugging at the heart strings, this video certainly does not sum everything up. It is classic propaganda and only shows one side of the story. In order to sum everything up it would also need to include scenes such as the aftermath of suicide bombings on israeli busses and cafe's etc. There are 2 SIDES at WAR here and war is always f**king horrible and it's always the innocent that suffer most. peace |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by giiiant on Dec 5, 2007 15:47:22 GMT 1, Has anyone here heard about that Santa's Ghetto thing? Something to do with this - www.SantasGhetto.com
never heard of it?
wtf is banksy anyways
Has anyone here heard about that Santa's Ghetto thing? Something to do with this - www.SantasGhetto.comnever heard of it? wtf is banksy anyways |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 5, 2007 15:51:49 GMT 1, of course there are two sides, am I on the side that wants freedom, peace and justice for Palestine. I abhor the death of any innocent person, whoever they are Isreali or Palestinian, but vid did leave me speechless, I won't lie to you.
I live for the day when no more needless blood is spilt on either side.
peace
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of course there are two sides, am I on the side that wants freedom, peace and justice for Palestine. I abhor the death of any innocent person, whoever they are Isreali or Palestinian, but vid did leave me speechless, I won't lie to you.
I live for the day when no more needless blood is spilt on either side.
peace
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mike hunt on Dec 5, 2007 15:52:28 GMT 1, The only real way of resolving conflict is to talk. Just try make it not personal. I'm very interested to hear views from both sides. Especially real personal experiences or ideas for a solutions. Anyway who's seen the new camel graf on the wall, it looks great (the one with two kids under on santasghetto.com).
Real experiences summary: went to the territories, met some very nice people who didn't give a damn about the politics/beliefs of their leaders, they just wanted to get on with lives without that crap. Met some other people in the territories who threw rocks at me (and they didn't even get to know me first!) Went to Israel, met some very nice people who also just wanted to get on with their lives, and others who were terrified of the future if they compromise. Got a better understanding of the issues from both sides. Met a soldier who served in Ramallah, and released a DVD of his and his friends experiences - it went all over the world, including C4 and the beeb. Was purely observational and non-judgmental - just a factual account of how the whole situation messes up the minds of everyone, no matter how liberal or left wing you were before. I got a copy and its fascinating. The reality is so different.
The only real way of resolving conflict is to talk. Just try make it not personal. I'm very interested to hear views from both sides. Especially real personal experiences or ideas for a solutions. Anyway who's seen the new camel graf on the wall, it looks great (the one with two kids under on santasghetto.com). Real experiences summary: went to the territories, met some very nice people who didn't give a damn about the politics/beliefs of their leaders, they just wanted to get on with lives without that crap. Met some other people in the territories who threw rocks at me (and they didn't even get to know me first!) Went to Israel, met some very nice people who also just wanted to get on with their lives, and others who were terrified of the future if they compromise. Got a better understanding of the issues from both sides. Met a soldier who served in Ramallah, and released a DVD of his and his friends experiences - it went all over the world, including C4 and the beeb. Was purely observational and non-judgmental - just a factual account of how the whole situation messes up the minds of everyone, no matter how liberal or left wing you were before. I got a copy and its fascinating. The reality is so different. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by spirit on Dec 5, 2007 15:53:38 GMT 1, no asterisks here, perhaps you'd like to consider the subject more than the langauge? brb while i write a 4 paragraph long post explaining why you're wrong/why i'm right which will eventually take up another 6 pages of the thread and get everyone nowhere or maybe i'll just paste this one more time: BY THE WAY, SOME OF THE ABUSE GIVEN ON THIS AND THE BANKSY FORUM CAN BE CLASSED AS BULLYING AND VERBAL ABUSE. ONLINE BULLYING IS A REAL THING AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED FOR IT BEFORE. IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS) JUST A REMINDER, AS I WILL DO IT IF IT CARRIES ON AS IM DOING NOTHING WRONG. YOU MAY WANT TO READ THIS: www.cps.gov.uk/legal/section5/chapter_e.html
What is it exactly you are objecting to/threatened by G? Do you feel others have been bullied or yourself?
no asterisks here, perhaps you'd like to consider the subject more than the langauge? brb while i write a 4 paragraph long post explaining why you're wrong/why i'm right which will eventually take up another 6 pages of the thread and get everyone nowhere or maybe i'll just paste this one more time: BY THE WAY, SOME OF THE ABUSE GIVEN ON THIS AND THE BANKSY FORUM CAN BE CLASSED AS BULLYING AND VERBAL ABUSE. ONLINE BULLYING IS A REAL THING AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED FOR IT BEFORE. IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE ADDRESS OF EACH PERSON ON THIS FORUM FROM THEIR IP ADDRESS AND REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES, WHICH COULD LEAD TO LEGAL ACTION AND ULTIMATELY YOU LOSING YOUR JOB (IF YOU ARE DOING IT IN WORKING HOURS) JUST A REMINDER, AS I WILL DO IT IF IT CARRIES ON AS IM DOING NOTHING WRONG. YOU MAY WANT TO READ THIS: www.cps.gov.uk/legal/section5/chapter_e.htmlWhat is it exactly you are objecting to/threatened by G? Do you feel others have been bullied or yourself? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by lesbianwednesdays on Dec 5, 2007 15:54:45 GMT 1, The only real way of resolving conflict is to talk. Just try make it not personal. I'm very interested to hear views from both sides. Especially real personal experiences or ideas for a solutions. Anyway who's seen the new camel graf on the wall, it looks great (the one with two kids under on santasghetto.com). Real experiences summary: went to the territories, met some very nice people who didn't give a damn about the politics/beliefs of their leaders, they just wanted to get on with lives without that crap. Met some other people in the territories who threw rocks at me (and they didn't even get to know me first!) Went to Israel, met some very nice people who also just wanted to get on with their lives, and others who were terrified of the future if they compromise. Got a better understanding of the issues from both sides. Met a soldier who served in Ramallah, and released a DVD of his and his friends experiences - it went all over the world, including C4 and the beeb. Was purely observational and non-judgmental - just a factual account of how the whole situation messes up the minds of everyone, no matter how liberal or left wing you were before. I got a copy and its fascinating. The reality is so different.
do you know where we can find it mike? sounds like it's worth looking for.
The only real way of resolving conflict is to talk. Just try make it not personal. I'm very interested to hear views from both sides. Especially real personal experiences or ideas for a solutions. Anyway who's seen the new camel graf on the wall, it looks great (the one with two kids under on santasghetto.com). Real experiences summary: went to the territories, met some very nice people who didn't give a damn about the politics/beliefs of their leaders, they just wanted to get on with lives without that crap. Met some other people in the territories who threw rocks at me (and they didn't even get to know me first!) Went to Israel, met some very nice people who also just wanted to get on with their lives, and others who were terrified of the future if they compromise. Got a better understanding of the issues from both sides. Met a soldier who served in Ramallah, and released a DVD of his and his friends experiences - it went all over the world, including C4 and the beeb. Was purely observational and non-judgmental - just a factual account of how the whole situation messes up the minds of everyone, no matter how liberal or left wing you were before. I got a copy and its fascinating. The reality is so different. do you know where we can find it mike? sounds like it's worth looking for. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by giiiant on Dec 5, 2007 15:56:32 GMT 1, Which forum members are actually at the ghetto right now?
Which forum members are actually at the ghetto right now?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 5, 2007 16:02:16 GMT 1, mike it seems our experiences were somewhat juxtaposed. got to the Isreali border from Jordan, got my bags ripped open, presents ripped open, clothes strewn over the floor and camera broken, shortly after got strip searched, still the most humiliating experince of my life, held there for 5 hours and asked questions about every private aspect of my life. eventually let out and then called back to check my bags yet again!
then went to Palestine met some of the most beautiful people on earth who have been tormented by 200 odd settlers, protected by approx 1000 IDF. Met a child who was kidnapped by the IDF and had his fingers broken by them, met a child who told me about the Jenin massacres, the sadness was in his eyes constantly.
saw a flat that was bombed to smitherines and where a man died having a heart attack after seeing his home destroyed.
then went to Israel, where children seemed pretty happy, houses were upstanding not piles of rubble, people were nice, I have nothing against them...but there is a BIG BIG difference between life in Isreal and life in Palestine.
but we all have different personal stories I guess.
Can't wait to hear the stories from those who are out here now at the Ghetto!
mike it seems our experiences were somewhat juxtaposed. got to the Isreali border from Jordan, got my bags ripped open, presents ripped open, clothes strewn over the floor and camera broken, shortly after got strip searched, still the most humiliating experince of my life, held there for 5 hours and asked questions about every private aspect of my life. eventually let out and then called back to check my bags yet again!
then went to Palestine met some of the most beautiful people on earth who have been tormented by 200 odd settlers, protected by approx 1000 IDF. Met a child who was kidnapped by the IDF and had his fingers broken by them, met a child who told me about the Jenin massacres, the sadness was in his eyes constantly.
saw a flat that was bombed to smitherines and where a man died having a heart attack after seeing his home destroyed.
then went to Israel, where children seemed pretty happy, houses were upstanding not piles of rubble, people were nice, I have nothing against them...but there is a BIG BIG difference between life in Isreal and life in Palestine.
but we all have different personal stories I guess.
Can't wait to hear the stories from those who are out here now at the Ghetto!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mike hunt on Dec 5, 2007 16:02:33 GMT 1, Its called breaking the silence. Just reading the reverse (they gave me an english copy) - you can find more info on
www.breakingthesilence.org.il
I should make clear that this is an excellent piece and in no way is trying to demonise Israel. It has support in Israel because people like to know what they are sending their children into - are they defending the country? Whats involved? Its easy to bring up specific video clips or events on both sides with emotional human stories - we would be here forever. Seems that journalists do this all too often. Not too long ago i was watching a news report with a journalist holding a dead child in her arms and crying. That is not journalism. Anyway, if this link works or you can find a copy, it is top stuff.
Its called breaking the silence. Just reading the reverse (they gave me an english copy) - you can find more info on www.breakingthesilence.org.ilI should make clear that this is an excellent piece and in no way is trying to demonise Israel. It has support in Israel because people like to know what they are sending their children into - are they defending the country? Whats involved? Its easy to bring up specific video clips or events on both sides with emotional human stories - we would be here forever. Seems that journalists do this all too often. Not too long ago i was watching a news report with a journalist holding a dead child in her arms and crying. That is not journalism. Anyway, if this link works or you can find a copy, it is top stuff. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by spirit on Dec 5, 2007 16:05:14 GMT 1,
Sorry still not clear. Are you threatening to report people for the abuse that jboy refererred to in the link above?, or abuse you feel you or others have got in this thread? Please quote a specific example. thanks
Sorry still not clear. Are you threatening to report people for the abuse that jboy refererred to in the link above?, or abuse you feel you or others have got in this thread? Please quote a specific example. thanks |
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