Urban Art Association

Once again the middle classes talk s**t about something they know nothing about or couldn't even contemplate

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Once again the middle classes talk s**t about something they know nothing about or couldn't even contemplate

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Speak for yourself mate, I know a little about places with conflicts, what exactly do you know?

I feel POW have excelled themselves this year and have proved a point, highlighting an issue that has been raging for years without most knowing the real cause.

If they had decided to open it in London, we would all be getting stressed, moaning about queuing, dripping about over priced prints, manking about if we were able to get there on time or not, If they are, or are not going to release prints by Banksy of Micallef as most are not interested in the rest etc etc.

But.....with this one, the majority can't make it so we are left to discuss the politics and the art from the show, with the snippets of info we are getting back, this IMO makes an interesting read.

Lets face it, regardless of what class we are from, (we can't all be upper-class and know everything that is going on in the world) discussion and debate is healthy.

Perhaps its time for a bit of the history since it seems many here are terribly misinformed or have some other agenda.

The area was under the control of the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire, and came under the control of the British under the League of Nations mandate. Much of the Middle East came under control of Great Britain and France, ranging from Lebanon to Iraq, to Jordan and what have you. As I recall, the Arabs were originally to have TransJordan and the Jews Nish Jordan, essentially all of the land their side of the Jordan. The Jews were the Palestinians. There never was a Palestinian people. The Jews entered and developed the country and large numbers of Arabs were enticed by the relative economic prosperity to migrate into the area.

Insofar as indigenous Jews and Arabs were concerned, the Jews bought land from Arabs, who sold voluntarily at prices that far exceeded the value of the land but for the entry of the Jews.

The Arabs were not "driven out." Several Arab armies attacked the fledgling state of Israel, which basically was viewed as vulnerable to destruction. The invading Arabs together with the indigenous Arabs attacked the Jews. The civilian Arabs were in many areas induced to withdraw with the promise that when the Jews were defeatred (as was expected), the Jewish owned land would be seized, the Jews goods also seized, and would be distributed to the victors as the Jews suffered the ignominy of defeat. The Arabs captured some territory, but the Jew's survived., and the Arabs who had followed the plan of conquest were outside the boundaries established at the cessation ofn hositilities.

There were successively attacks on Israel by the Arab states. But these repeated attacks over the years were repulsed with the Jews capturing more territory (including the Golan Heights from which Israel was bombarded, and which coincidentally controls strategic water supplies vital to Israel's survival.

The Arabs were not driven out but left as part of a plan to destroy Israel, and disgorge the Jews, seizing their territory.

Parenthetically, the Jordanians desecrated Jewish holy sites and cemeteries in Jerusalem and the Arabs conducted other acts of vandalism, while the Arabs who had remained in what is now Israel, prospered and are involved in the political process in Israel. But some of them have given allegiance to the Arabs seeking Israel's destruction as when Israel was bombarded recently by Hizbullah.

Nuart, is that from the old city Hebron?

there is so much more of the like all over the place there. It is disgusting.

Its funny I mentioned Nazi Germany and all the 'friends of Israel' claimed I was supporting the Nazi's?

I have been called all sorts of names etc but when asked for proof to back up such allegations was told to 'grow up'. I even had the classic 'race' card pulled out.

What rubbish. As pointed out by other members anti-zionist does not mean anti-semite.

This situation is the current aparteid.

Its funny how people are defending Israel's actions. Is anyone defending Nazi Germany? What do you expect the Palestinians to do roll over and die? One mans terrorist... As for Israel - some of their factions were even considered terrorists by Britain (wiki Stern gang. They were even awarded medals years later).

Who are these people on the forum? Justification of the wall? Street art is becoming less 'street' by the minute!

Nice one NU for keeping it real. I think a lot of members are getting their facts from the likes of Fox News.

Well the wall is all about making the largest concentration camp in the world...

So you were offended by the line: "Is anyone defending Nazi Germany". So your offended when I say the Israeli's are building a concentration camp for the Palestinians....

Its funny that, Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu made a comparison of Israel's treatment of Palestinians to the treatment of Black South Africans under apartheid, so your going to call him a sick c**t aswell?

As for the Stern gang (please wiki them) they even offered to work with the Nazi's and fight the British. But we only like to look back at the points in history that serve us best dont we.


Closet Zionest by any chance?

How is this racist?

I hate it when people say Israel and Jewish people are one. They are not. Infact many Jews are against the state of Israel. (http://www.nkusa.org/)

Please point out anything I wrote that was racist?

After WW2 did we stay in Germany and build houses where we wanted and kick the locals to the side. Or did we help build Germany up again?

bloody hell what a b**ch! i hope you get to go, enjoy yourself, feel humble and take loads of pics!