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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 20, 2007 19:07:17 GMT 1, "For allowing Santa's Ghetto to happen"!! whatever that means. Some people took the images the wrong way, maybe that was bound to happen. Maybe it wasn't explained to the locals that it was in fact supporting them. But let's face it you can't please all of the people all of the time. At least they didn't want to execute him like the teacher with the teddy.
goffy in your eyes are "they" all the same...surely the last week of tension on the forum would make people think a little more before posting potentially offensive comments.
back to the point, for me I can see how people can construe the donkey image the wrong way, though I agree with CBL's remark about his take on - that it was a reflection of the over zealous IDF.
Banksy should get out there again and paint something else!
"For allowing Santa's Ghetto to happen"!! whatever that means. Some people took the images the wrong way, maybe that was bound to happen. Maybe it wasn't explained to the locals that it was in fact supporting them. But let's face it you can't please all of the people all of the time. At least they didn't want to execute him like the teacher with the teddy. goffy in your eyes are "they" all the same...surely the last week of tension on the forum would make people think a little more before posting potentially offensive comments. back to the point, for me I can see how people can construe the donkey image the wrong way, though I agree with CBL's remark about his take on - that it was a reflection of the over zealous IDF. Banksy should get out there again and paint something else! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by craigmccluskey on Dec 20, 2007 20:02:25 GMT 1, i was there the morning it was erased ,the paint was still wet ,our taxi driver asked some locals in the opposite shop at the three arches ,then descended to have a full blown argument with them ,was getting a bit heated so me and my bro sneaked back into the taxi,anyway the driver told us that they were offended as they took it that they were being compared to donkeys,he tried to explain to them the meaning behind it but they still took it as a slight on there caracters must say it was the only time of the weekend that we felt uneasy .
i was there the morning it was erased ,the paint was still wet ,our taxi driver asked some locals in the opposite shop at the three arches ,then descended to have a full blown argument with them ,was getting a bit heated so me and my bro sneaked back into the taxi,anyway the driver told us that they were offended as they took it that they were being compared to donkeys,he tried to explain to them the meaning behind it but they still took it as a slight on there caracters must say it was the only time of the weekend that we felt uneasy .
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by dime683 on Dec 20, 2007 21:30:33 GMT 1, "For allowing Santa's Ghetto to happen"!! whatever that means. Some people took the images the wrong way, maybe that was bound to happen. Maybe it wasn't explained to the locals that it was in fact supporting them. But let's face it you can't please all of the people all of the time. At least they didn't want to execute him like the teacher with the teddy.
all i ment by that, is it takes more then banksy pow and laz to set something like this up. meaning that im sure someone in the community has helped with the planning and execution of santas gheto. not looking for another argument. we have had enough of those the few days.
"For allowing Santa's Ghetto to happen"!! whatever that means. Some people took the images the wrong way, maybe that was bound to happen. Maybe it wasn't explained to the locals that it was in fact supporting them. But let's face it you can't please all of the people all of the time. At least they didn't want to execute him like the teacher with the teddy. all i ment by that, is it takes more then banksy pow and laz to set something like this up. meaning that im sure someone in the community has helped with the planning and execution of santas gheto. not looking for another argument. we have had enough of those the few days. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by dmandpenfold on Dec 20, 2007 22:01:46 GMT 1, Just as different people in Palestine clearly took the images the wrong way it is obvious that forum members can easily take each others posts the wrong way, i would advocate reading a post carefully again if for some reason it offends you first time, in the haste to jump to conclusions many do not stop to contemplate what was said and what was actually meant, they miss the point and dive into a full blown argument that could have been easily avoided with a litte care.....it only takes a minute to re-read a post; similarly if you are posting, use the preview button first to ensure your post reads as you intended, it saves many a mis-understanding...
Just as different people in Palestine clearly took the images the wrong way it is obvious that forum members can easily take each others posts the wrong way, i would advocate reading a post carefully again if for some reason it offends you first time, in the haste to jump to conclusions many do not stop to contemplate what was said and what was actually meant, they miss the point and dive into a full blown argument that could have been easily avoided with a litte care.....it only takes a minute to re-read a post; similarly if you are posting, use the preview button first to ensure your post reads as you intended, it saves many a mis-understanding...
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Daniel Silk on Dec 20, 2007 22:02:45 GMT 1, Just as different people in Palestine clearly took the images the wrong way it is obvious that forum members can easily take each others posts the wrong way, i would advocate reading a post carefully again if for some reason it offends you first time, in the haste to jump to conclusions many do not stop to contemplate what was said and what was actually meant, they miss the point and dive into a full blown argument that could have been easily avoided with a litte care.....it only takes a minute to re-read a post; similarly if you are posting, use the preview button first to ensure your post reads as you intended, it saves many a mis-understanding...
1,111 post count ;D
Just as different people in Palestine clearly took the images the wrong way it is obvious that forum members can easily take each others posts the wrong way, i would advocate reading a post carefully again if for some reason it offends you first time, in the haste to jump to conclusions many do not stop to contemplate what was said and what was actually meant, they miss the point and dive into a full blown argument that could have been easily avoided with a litte care.....it only takes a minute to re-read a post; similarly if you are posting, use the preview button first to ensure your post reads as you intended, it saves many a mis-understanding... 1,111 post count ;D |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by dmandpenfold on Dec 20, 2007 22:05:47 GMT 1, legs eleven........if i was a donkey ;D
EDIT: darn that ruined it 1,112 now
legs eleven........if i was a donkey ;D
EDIT: darn that ruined it 1,112 now
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 20, 2007 22:12:45 GMT 1, Just as different people in Palestine clearly took the images the wrong way it is obvious that forum members can easily take each others posts the wrong way, i would advocate reading a post carefully again if for some reason it offends you first time, in the haste to jump to conclusions many do not stop to contemplate what was said and what was actually meant, they miss the point and dive into a full blown argument that could have been easily avoided with a litte care.....it only takes a minute to re-read a post; similarly if you are posting, use the preview button first to ensure your post reads as you intended, it saves many a mis-understanding...
Dmand, if that was aimed at me, I understand, but that second part "at least they didn't want to execute him" was really not necessary - however many times I reread it! simple as that.
anyway NO MORE ARGUMENTS I've had enough!
Just as different people in Palestine clearly took the images the wrong way it is obvious that forum members can easily take each others posts the wrong way, i would advocate reading a post carefully again if for some reason it offends you first time, in the haste to jump to conclusions many do not stop to contemplate what was said and what was actually meant, they miss the point and dive into a full blown argument that could have been easily avoided with a litte care.....it only takes a minute to re-read a post; similarly if you are posting, use the preview button first to ensure your post reads as you intended, it saves many a mis-understanding... Dmand, if that was aimed at me, I understand, but that second part "at least they didn't want to execute him" was really not necessary - however many times I reread it! simple as that. anyway NO MORE ARGUMENTS I've had enough! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by dmandpenfold on Dec 20, 2007 23:12:34 GMT 1, valeha, nothing was aimed at you or anyone in particular, i was making a general comment on people reacting before thinking both on this thread and many others.
No argument or offence meant, it was my way of trying to get people to appreciate that things aren't read as they imagine are written
P's 
valeha, nothing was aimed at you or anyone in particular, i was making a general comment on people reacting before thinking both on this thread and many others. No argument or offence meant, it was my way of trying to get people to appreciate that things aren't read as they imagine are written P's |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by BK83 on Dec 20, 2007 23:20:39 GMT 1, Interesting that this image has been completely misconstrued by the locals. I mean, it is afterall a picture the most universal of languages!! There is no text accompanyment so nothing to make it any more confusing and yet the whole message has been lost in translation. I find it even more odd considering the context of the environment -- it just amkes perfect sense ... or does it? I thought pictures could transcend the language barrier....
Anyone else interested in philanthropy....
Interesting that this image has been completely misconstrued by the locals. I mean, it is afterall a picture the most universal of languages!! There is no text accompanyment so nothing to make it any more confusing and yet the whole message has been lost in translation. I find it even more odd considering the context of the environment -- it just amkes perfect sense ... or does it? I thought pictures could transcend the language barrier....
Anyone else interested in philanthropy....
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by dmandpenfold on Dec 20, 2007 23:54:16 GMT 1, quite right jaypaav, i am quite astounded that anyone could interpret this as a comment on Palestinians being donkeys, the message i thought was very clear and put so well without the need for further explanation...a picture being worth a thousand words, we have many more discussing the work than that..
the view you take on something is clearly directly related to your state of mind, maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's cultural too. Either way i am amazed by the loss of meaning, this image surely needs no explaining to anyone 
quite right jaypaav, i am quite astounded that anyone could interpret this as a comment on Palestinians being donkeys, the message i thought was very clear and put so well without the need for further explanation...a picture being worth a thousand words, we have many more discussing the work than that.. the view you take on something is clearly directly related to your state of mind, maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's cultural too. Either way i am amazed by the loss of meaning, this image surely needs no explaining to anyone |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by klyde on Dec 20, 2007 8:46:31 GMT 1, Frame was only ยฃ24.99 from Homebase. It fits perfectly. Comes with a cream mount which I painted black. Saved a few quid anyway!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2007 9:38:33 GMT 1, thats a great print, frame looks great too. have you kept the print away from the glass?
thats a great print, frame looks great too. have you kept the print away from the glass?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by klyde on Dec 20, 2007 10:13:40 GMT 1, thats a great print, frame looks great too. have you kept the print away from the glass?
Thanks. 
Away from the glass? Not really no.
Could that be much of a problem?
thats a great print, frame looks great too. have you kept the print away from the glass? Thanks. Away from the glass? Not really no. Could that be much of a problem? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by goatislander on Dec 20, 2007 10:43:41 GMT 1, if the print is on the glass the ink will likely stick to it when you go to take it out someday.
if the print is on the glass the ink will likely stick to it when you go to take it out someday.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by bullet on Dec 20, 2007 10:46:46 GMT 1, Ive never had that issue at all. Where do you keep your prints - in the bath?
Ive never had that issue at all. Where do you keep your prints - in the bath?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by arcam on Dec 20, 2007 10:52:54 GMT 1, I never noticed the gold tongue before. Nice touch.
+1
I never noticed the gold tongue before. Nice touch. +1 |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by beau on Dec 20, 2007 11:10:21 GMT 1, that is a fuckin wicked print gutted i missed out, cant moan with the new banksy on the way though, mayb that will allow me to justify baggin one of these up on the bay - good job man nice one, frame looks sweet too, good job
that is a fuckin wicked print gutted i missed out, cant moan with the new banksy on the way though, mayb that will allow me to justify baggin one of these up on the bay - good job man nice one, frame looks sweet too, good job
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by goatislander on Dec 20, 2007 16:00:26 GMT 1, Ive never had that issue at all. Where do you keep your prints - in the bath?
It is common knowledge in the framing world that you never put the work of art/photograph against the glass because this will happen over a period of time. Depending on the climate where you live it could happen sooner rather than latter, but you never put the art against the glass. If you try to sell it later on and potential buyers knew you kept it framed they will ask you if it was kept against the glass and if you respond to them honestly they will be less likely to buy. If you want to display the deckled edge on your print in a frame you have to have it float-mounted to prevent it from touching the glass. Good luck.
Ive never had that issue at all. Where do you keep your prints - in the bath? It is common knowledge in the framing world that you never put the work of art/photograph against the glass because this will happen over a period of time. Depending on the climate where you live it could happen sooner rather than latter, but you never put the art against the glass. If you try to sell it later on and potential buyers knew you kept it framed they will ask you if it was kept against the glass and if you respond to them honestly they will be less likely to buy. If you want to display the deckled edge on your print in a frame you have to have it float-mounted to prevent it from touching the glass. Good luck. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by klyde on Dec 20, 2007 16:10:51 GMT 1,
Thanks for your comments and concern.
Will probably get it framed properly in the new year.
For now, this is the best option for ยฃ24.99!
Will be float mounting my stop and search, even though it will fit in one of these frames just like the Bast.
Thanks for your comments and concern.
Will probably get it framed properly in the new year.
For now, this is the best option for ยฃ24.99!
Will be float mounting my stop and search, even though it will fit in one of these frames just like the Bast.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Lord Lucas Roham on Dec 20, 2007 16:24:11 GMT 1, Homebase is run by Zionists -1
Homebase is run by Zionists -1
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by dmandpenfold on Dec 20, 2007 16:28:33 GMT 1, Frame was only ยฃ24.99 from Homebase. It fits perfectly. Comes with a cream mount which I painted black. Saved a few quid anyway!
nice work, i used one of these for a toxic mary, no need to go over the top, but i would recommend getting a good mount cut to fit it, the frame though is perfectly fine, the amount you spend on it should always be in context with the value of the print and its likely rise in value, which is a bit of guesswork of course
Frame was only ยฃ24.99 from Homebase. It fits perfectly. Comes with a cream mount which I painted black. Saved a few quid anyway! nice work, i used one of these for a toxic mary, no need to go over the top, but i would recommend getting a good mount cut to fit it, the frame though is perfectly fine, the amount you spend on it should always be in context with the value of the print and its likely rise in value, which is a bit of guesswork of course |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by gozgoz on Dec 19, 2007 17:59:26 GMT 1, well.. not really... u can see my print in a little little little little corner on the photo (4th one down i think) of the wall on santas ghettos site....!
this is the only photo i have of it now so far and its with me in it sorry!
well.. not really... u can see my print in a little little little little corner on the photo (4th one down i think) of the wall on santas ghettos site....! this is the only photo i have of it now so far and its with me in it sorry! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by graeme501 on Dec 19, 2007 18:21:04 GMT 1, i saw that over there and very nice it was 2
+1 for u
i saw that over there and very nice it was 2
+1 for u
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Harveyn on Dec 19, 2007 18:25:54 GMT 1, Good man Goz.....Hopefully you two pieces will be up for auction on the charidee soon. +1
Good man Goz.....Hopefully you two pieces will be up for auction on the charidee soon. +1
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by zulu on Dec 19, 2007 18:37:40 GMT 1, Classic. Love it!
Classic. Love it!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by gozgoz on Dec 19, 2007 18:48:29 GMT 1, i saw that over there and very nice it was 2 +1 for u Posted by zulu on Today at 5:37pm Classic. Love it!
hey that really really meant a lot to me guys.
its my first ever screenprint and i did it when i first moved over here. Its a homage to a time when my life was in a mess and i went through a crazy bender.... and i found these buncha friends who helped me through those times and its a collage of those days gone by...!
Ive put them up on the Charidee's auction in case anyone's interested...!
Im just annoyed i didnt sign or name the piece which was up on the wall cos i didnt have a pen! ARGH!
i saw that over there and very nice it was 2 +1 for u Posted by zulu on Today at 5:37pm Classic. Love it! hey that really really meant a lot to me guys. its my first ever screenprint and i did it when i first moved over here. Its a homage to a time when my life was in a mess and i went through a crazy bender.... and i found these buncha friends who helped me through those times and its a collage of those days gone by...! Ive put them up on the Charidee's auction in case anyone's interested...! Im just annoyed i didnt sign or name the piece which was up on the wall cos i didnt have a pen! ARGH! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by finlee on Dec 19, 2007 18:54:35 GMT 1, like ya coat, i've got the same one
u not got a better pic of your print? you not take one before posting up?
like ya coat, i've got the same one u not got a better pic of your print? you not take one before posting up? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by gozgoz on Dec 19, 2007 19:07:01 GMT 1, man.... dunnno if you have noticed but i realised about half of london has that same coat i reckon. almost every weekend i take the tube/bus i see someone else wearing it. I dunno about u but its crap at keeping me warm!
I only have a photo of the coloured one and the black and white one which is up on the charidee auctions...
both signed... although u cant really see it here i guess?
man.... dunnno if you have noticed but i realised about half of london has that same coat i reckon. almost every weekend i take the tube/bus i see someone else wearing it. I dunno about u but its crap at keeping me warm! I only have a photo of the coloured one and the black and white one which is up on the charidee auctions... both signed... although u cant really see it here i guess? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by ejvaze on Dec 19, 2007 19:46:24 GMT 1, I see it gozgoz 
By the bin next to the Paul Insect
Well Done
I see it gozgoz By the bin next to the Paul Insect Well Done |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by gozgoz on Dec 19, 2007 20:56:50 GMT 1, thanks vazie... and thanks guys for the kind words. i didnt wanna put my artwork here for all to see cos ive seen how some people here completely tear some new artist's work and my hearts too weak for that.
thanks vazie... and thanks guys for the kind words. i didnt wanna put my artwork here for all to see cos ive seen how some people here completely tear some new artist's work and my hearts too weak for that. |
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