Urban Art Association

Nobody forces people to be Uber drivers. I don't know if the drivers are hard done by or not. I don't know if it's a good side line or not. I don't know if peoples private cars are insured as taxi's or not.

When is Zedsy gonna do a Sale Ends Today print?

Good luck, these are getting harder and harder to find. I'm sure someone here has one they'd sell you for the right price........what that is I don't know. Any guesses?

http://instagram.com/p/BgUJwoEjUI8

Is this the right thread to post this?

Thats embarassing.

The only people 'hating' uber are the marxist lefties that try to make the case that everyone should earn the same, regardless of the skills their job requires. Here's something I never understood. People go 'yeah, uber underpays their drivers so they are bad'. So, why are people still working/driving for uber? Surely they should be able to get a better paying job for their skillset if uber is underpaying them, right? Nobody is holding a gun against their heads and is forcing them to work for uber.

Or might it be that the people driving for uber are a) people that are making some money on the side, and are perfectly happy with that, and b) people that have no skillset AT ALL and thus are unable to make more at any other job because they are simply unhirable? I mean it really weirds me out that there's people that have a job that was non existent 5 years ago (driving for uber), which they chose out of your own will, and are now complaining they don't make enough money. Why did you start working for uber in the first place then, and why havent you moved on if you don't like it anymore?

The actual costumers of uber (like me) think it's a godlike service that gets you from A to B without the risk of being ripped off, without the risk of encountering a taxidriver that doesn't speak your language, without having to wait for unknown periods of time before your ride arrives, and without all the others**t that the traditional taxi market is suffering from. For most people it's not even about the price (although it's also nice to not have to pay double for a taxi), it's about the experience of getting from point A to B.

The mere fact uber exists should tell you a lot about the traditional taxi market in many countries.

Oh, and the art is very poor. 

Uber is actually losing billions of dollars, because they pay drivers more then they charge their customers.
They are buying market share. That's why it's so cheap. Now.....

The concept is based upon self driving cars. So when that technology is perfect and accepted
all drivers will be fired and they will have the scale to introduce all those self driving cars.

And hopefully make those billions back.

The taxi business is perfect for disruption, due to the problems you adress.
I actually agree with most you say here (which is new).
Only you don't pay double for a taxi - you pay half for Uber. There is a difference.

I don't hate Uber. I don't use Uber. I don't do apps. 
Although surely you would label me a marxist leftie. 

Can I ask why? 

You're not on a sole mission.
I refuse the self-service tills too and if a member of staff directs me to one I tell them that it's their colleagues jobs they're getting rid of - perhaps theirs will be next. I objected to the patronising 'how to make a smiley face to the customers' little posters put on the tills in ASDA (Wallmart) that suggested the staff were too thick to be polite without a reminder - and called out the store manager to tell them my opinion.
I watched my family's village bakery business (and all the other local small trades too) go down the toilets in the 80s because of predatory capitalism (via supermarkets).
That 'look after yourself and f##k everybody else' attitude was one of the main drivers of my graffiti through the 80s - and it's probably one of the main reasons you're a fan of urban art in its originations.
Sadly that initial force of graffiti has also also been commoditised.
Like the essence of the punk music I was listening to at the time it was initially, generally about expressing anger at the unfairness of contemporary society without resorting to violence. This was pre-internet when the media was very limited and controlled so we decided to take a degree of that control back ourselves and pasted-up information about these and a hundred other issues. All made possible with a spray can and stencil or crudely photocopied poster art.
Because the contemporary adult audience is one that grew up with the aesthetic of hip hop graffiti being part of their normal visual consumption (rather than being transgressive vandalism), street art is now embedded within the mainstream of culture generally; we have artists being paid by local authorities to put up enormous murals which add positively to the urban visual environment. But most of this work is decorative and frequently artists are commissioned on the basis that they will not make work that challenges the political orthodoxy.
Undoubtedly it is certainly an improvement to the urban landscape when we lose commercial advertising space to individual artistic murals; it returns that public space to its community where it becomes a site of interaction and not a site of a silent acceptance of the rights of consumerism, but I do worry that perhaps we are losing some of the reasoning that brought many street artists out onto the street in the first place.

rant over... carry on shopping

Well..

nice bit of casual ageism there just because people have different moral standards

fwiw I also boycott amazon, due to their tax issues
& don't use self check out tills where at all possible for same reasons as others

Is ageism an actual thing? lol

I got your back, Bren. F#ck 'm all !

We're starting to agree a little too often, can you please say something about Trump?