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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Deleted on May 20, 2016 16:21:52 GMT 1, I can't believe it's not Borf buffed better.
Graphic designers hijacked street art and created soulless murals on buildings using expensive machinery and corporate sponsorship.
I can't believe it's not Borf buffed better.
Graphic designers hijacked street art and created soulless murals on buildings using expensive machinery and corporate sponsorship.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by ramo on May 25, 2016 7:20:58 GMT 1, Has anyone from the forum seen the show yet?
Has anyone from the forum seen the show yet?
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Fะฏ on May 25, 2016 8:39:05 GMT 1,
I take it the rip off part will be these pieces torn to reveal something underneath? If not then so far its a load of tosh.
I take it the rip off part will be these pieces torn to reveal something underneath? If not then so far its a load of tosh. |
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by elkev on May 25, 2016 8:44:26 GMT 1, I take it the rip off part will be these pieces torn to reveal something underneath? If not then so far its a load of tosh.
I take it the rip off part will be these pieces torn to reveal something underneath? If not then so far its a load of tosh. These are aluminum. Nothing to rip off. |
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by nex on May 25, 2016 9:31:41 GMT 1, I take it the rip off part will be these pieces torn to reveal something underneath? If not then so far its a load of tosh.
It certainly will take more effort to comprehend than your average urban art piece, plaudits to him trying something new, do I understand it? Nope.
I take it the rip off part will be these pieces torn to reveal something underneath? If not then so far its a load of tosh. It certainly will take more effort to comprehend than your average urban art piece, plaudits to him trying something new, do I understand it? Nope. |
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by jayTown on May 25, 2016 10:01:55 GMT 1, I think the "rip-off" part is where he tells everyone how much he's sold these pieces for.
I think the "rip-off" part is where he tells everyone how much he's sold these pieces for.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by ramo on May 25, 2016 11:47:04 GMT 1, Thank you very much for the pictures elkev. That helps us to get an overview of his exibition. I can just speak for myself but I can not do anything with his new art and I am also a little bit sad about this.
Thank you very much for the pictures elkev. That helps us to get an overview of his exibition. I can just speak for myself but I can not do anything with his new art and I am also a little bit sad about this.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by BKBOI on May 25, 2016 11:49:18 GMT 1, WTF did I just look at? I feel that he should have used another name and sold work other than Dolk. Seems like he wants to continue charging the regular prices for these new pieces. No way those pieces would sell at asking if it was done by a Jan Andersen.
WTF did I just look at? I feel that he should have used another name and sold work other than Dolk. Seems like he wants to continue charging the regular prices for these new pieces. No way those pieces would sell at asking if it was done by a Jan Andersen.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by elkev on May 25, 2016 12:57:14 GMT 1, WTF did I just look at? I feel that he should have used another name and sold work other than Dolk. Seems like he wants to continue charging the regular prices for these new pieces. No way those pieces would sell at asking if it was done by a Jan Andersen.
WTF did I just look at? I feel that he should have used another name and sold work other than Dolk. Seems like he wants to continue charging the regular prices for these new pieces. No way those pieces would sell at asking if it was done by a Jan Andersen. I think it's called art. But, what do I know? I only went for the free wine and pretzels. If Jan Andersen offers free wine and pretzels, I'll be there too. Go Jan! |
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Briggs 74 on May 25, 2016 13:50:39 GMT 1, i like themโฆ..
thanks for posting the pics elkev
i like themโฆ..
thanks for posting the pics elkev
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by BKBOI on May 25, 2016 14:27:21 GMT 1, I was not trying to say that these are not art pieces. They are. In fact, very contemporary and some pieces actually I would consider hanging on my wall. It was more regarding pricing because he is Dolk rather than the artistic merit of the current works. He should have ditched the name when he decided to take another direction in his artistic career.
I was not trying to say that these are not art pieces. They are. In fact, very contemporary and some pieces actually I would consider hanging on my wall. It was more regarding pricing because he is Dolk rather than the artistic merit of the current works. He should have ditched the name when he decided to take another direction in his artistic career.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Poster Bob on May 25, 2016 14:34:12 GMT 1, I couldn't hang any of these. I think they're great, but the intentional flaws in the works would drive me mad.
I couldn't hang any of these. I think they're great, but the intentional flaws in the works would drive me mad.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by avec art on May 25, 2016 15:18:26 GMT 1, It's quite difficult to always see what are the flaws and what is reflection in the photos. But it's an interesting dialogue between order and chaos.
It's quite difficult to always see what are the flaws and what is reflection in the photos. But it's an interesting dialogue between order and chaos.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Gard on May 25, 2016 15:25:54 GMT 1, I helped him hang booth of these exhibitions and I have to say it looks magnificent. A lot of street art is only temporary and the only way to consume it, is through a computer screen since the work no longer exists. These work can in no way be enjoyed only looking at a screen. The richness of the metal plates is something that completely is overlooked in the pictures. He's also still working within his subject that is the street. Earlier he added elements to the street, now he's highlighting parts of the urban environment and fetishizing about the simplest form of vandalism, keying. The way the surface of the "canvases" are you're also forced to put yourself into the works and consider yourself a part of the work. The perfect surface is destroyed and you're left there helpless as a viewer.
I find it interesting that there's a long thread about the death of street art and when someone tries to do something about it, no one seems to care or doesn't want to understand. Is street art only built up of easy access images and pop cultural references? An artist has to evolve to stay relevant, and evolving within stencils is to me an impossible task (please prove me wrong, and don't say Banksy). An era is over, Dolk went back to the roots of vandalism and he's showing us that it's possible to evolve beyond the stencil. More artists should dare to take this step, and hopefully he will start a trend where artists step out of their comfort zone. For the "scene" to survive boundaries have to be pushed, instead of remixing the same images again and again until IKEA think it's a good idea to sell it in their stores.
I helped him hang booth of these exhibitions and I have to say it looks magnificent. A lot of street art is only temporary and the only way to consume it, is through a computer screen since the work no longer exists. These work can in no way be enjoyed only looking at a screen. The richness of the metal plates is something that completely is overlooked in the pictures. He's also still working within his subject that is the street. Earlier he added elements to the street, now he's highlighting parts of the urban environment and fetishizing about the simplest form of vandalism, keying. The way the surface of the "canvases" are you're also forced to put yourself into the works and consider yourself a part of the work. The perfect surface is destroyed and you're left there helpless as a viewer.
I find it interesting that there's a long thread about the death of street art and when someone tries to do something about it, no one seems to care or doesn't want to understand. Is street art only built up of easy access images and pop cultural references? An artist has to evolve to stay relevant, and evolving within stencils is to me an impossible task (please prove me wrong, and don't say Banksy). An era is over, Dolk went back to the roots of vandalism and he's showing us that it's possible to evolve beyond the stencil. More artists should dare to take this step, and hopefully he will start a trend where artists step out of their comfort zone. For the "scene" to survive boundaries have to be pushed, instead of remixing the same images again and again until IKEA think it's a good idea to sell it in their stores.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Matt on May 25, 2016 15:35:01 GMT 1, Thanks Gard for providing some perspective.
I still think it looks unapealing (possibly due to photo quality) but the artistic intent is an interesting take on degradation and vandalism...although I am not sure what exactly it is saying about it...
no print to flip so most people here won't care...
Kudos the guy for having the balls to scratch an artistic itch rather than doing another stencil
Thanks Gard for providing some perspective. I still think it looks unapealing (possibly due to photo quality) but the artistic intent is an interesting take on degradation and vandalism...although I am not sure what exactly it is saying about it... no print to flip so most people here won't care... Kudos the guy for having the balls to scratch an artistic itch rather than doing another stencil |
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Gard on May 25, 2016 15:43:09 GMT 1, They are extremely hard to photograph. I just looked through my photos from the installation and they are better than the ones already provided, but nothing close to what they look like in real life. And that to me is also part of the point. You actually have to get of your ass and go and see the works to get the full impact of them. The best way to enjoy the beauty of the works if you can't go is to get the book that's being released in the second part of the show.
They are extremely hard to photograph. I just looked through my photos from the installation and they are better than the ones already provided, but nothing close to what they look like in real life. And that to me is also part of the point. You actually have to get of your ass and go and see the works to get the full impact of them. The best way to enjoy the beauty of the works if you can't go is to get the book that's being released in the second part of the show.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Ruggs on May 25, 2016 15:55:22 GMT 1, They are extremely hard to photograph. I just looked through my photos from the installation and they are better than the ones already provided, but nothing close to what they look like in real life. And that to me is also part of the point. You actually have to get of your ass and go and see the works to get the full impact of them. The best way to enjoy the beauty of the works if you can't go is to get the book that's being released in the second part of the show.
They are extremely hard to photograph. I just looked through my photos from the installation and they are better than the ones already provided, but nothing close to what they look like in real life. And that to me is also part of the point. You actually have to get of your ass and go and see the works to get the full impact of them. The best way to enjoy the beauty of the works if you can't go is to get the book that's being released in the second part of the show. Nice to get a perspective from someone who really knows what they're talking about. The images posted, albeit decent ones, are really hard to gauge properly. Would like a book. When and how can you get hold of one Gard? |
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by 1978per on May 25, 2016 16:16:09 GMT 1, Agree on the pictures. Mine weren't very good as it seems an impossible task to get decent photos of these shiny surfaces. Still better than nothing, but I'd recommend going down there if possible and also pick up a copy of the book. I'm hearing the book will have photos of both the rip on and rip off pieces in outside environments. So that should be interesting.
Agree on the pictures. Mine weren't very good as it seems an impossible task to get decent photos of these shiny surfaces. Still better than nothing, but I'd recommend going down there if possible and also pick up a copy of the book. I'm hearing the book will have photos of both the rip on and rip off pieces in outside environments. So that should be interesting.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Feral Things on May 25, 2016 16:26:06 GMT 1, Thanks for your post, Gard.ย I think part of the problem is that the new work is very difficult to 'read'.ย As far as I'm aware, neither Dรณlk or the galleries that showed his work previously ever explained what his work was really about.ย But because it was largely figurative people either found their own meaning in the work or they found it easier to just enjoy the work for its aesthetics.
There's the added problem here that we don't have the benefit of seeing the actual evolution taking place.ย Apologies here for the extended metaphor but we've seen the primate (Vandal, Kitty Riot, Zooicide etc.) and we now see the homo sapien (Rip-On/Rip-Off) but we haven't seen all the intermediate stages in human evolution which explain how we got from one to the other.ย I think that makes it more difficult for me personally to understand what this new show is about, but that's just me not having the tools to understand the work and not in any way a criticism of the work itself.
I guess a good example is Nug; another scando graffiti writer whose work has gone from being traditional graffiti in the 1990s to abstract, conceptual work about vandalism these days.ย The difference with Nug was that you could see the slow development of his work over the years and understand the development of his ideas that then explains his abstract, conceptual work.ย More posts like your own that explain what the work is about can only help to increase our understanding, and therefore potentially our enjoyment, of the work.ย Thanks again.
Thanks for your post, Gard.ย I think part of the problem is that the new work is very difficult to 'read'.ย As far as I'm aware, neither Dรณlk or the galleries that showed his work previously ever explained what his work was really about.ย But because it was largely figurative people either found their own meaning in the work or they found it easier to just enjoy the work for its aesthetics. There's the added problem here that we don't have the benefit of seeing the actual evolution taking place.ย Apologies here for the extended metaphor but we've seen the primate (Vandal, Kitty Riot, Zooicide etc.) and we now see the homo sapien (Rip-On/Rip-Off) but we haven't seen all the intermediate stages in human evolution which explain how we got from one to the other.ย I think that makes it more difficult for me personally to understand what this new show is about, but that's just me not having the tools to understand the work and not in any way a criticism of the work itself. I guess a good example is Nug; another scando graffiti writer whose work has gone from being traditional graffiti in the 1990s to abstract, conceptual work about vandalism these days.ย The difference with Nug was that you could see the slow development of his work over the years and understand the development of his ideas that then explains his abstract, conceptual work.ย More posts like your own that explain what the work is about can only help to increase our understanding, and therefore potentially our enjoyment, of the work.ย Thanks again. |
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by davievegas on May 25, 2016 17:41:05 GMT 1, Welp, I have lost all interest in Dolk at this moment. Not interested in art with one or two lines. Would this be categorized as "Abstract art" or "Fine art"? I dont buy this kind of art and It blows my mind people spend tons of money for this kind of art. But that is why the meaning of "Art" is so braud I guess. At any rate, not only am I not a fan but I would really be worried beyond just collecting his work because you love it at this point. Complete 180 from his normal work that made him so popular. I understand when you want to grow, but this shows no sign that its actually Dolk's work anywhere. Did he get greedy and say to himself "Fine art or abstract art" is where the bigger money is? I just don't get it. Tough pill to swallow for Dolk collectors.
Welp, I have lost all interest in Dolk at this moment. Not interested in art with one or two lines. Would this be categorized as "Abstract art" or "Fine art"? I dont buy this kind of art and It blows my mind people spend tons of money for this kind of art. But that is why the meaning of "Art" is so braud I guess. At any rate, not only am I not a fan but I would really be worried beyond just collecting his work because you love it at this point. Complete 180 from his normal work that made him so popular. I understand when you want to grow, but this shows no sign that its actually Dolk's work anywhere. Did he get greedy and say to himself "Fine art or abstract art" is where the bigger money is? I just don't get it. Tough pill to swallow for Dolk collectors.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Poster Bob on May 25, 2016 17:41:16 GMT 1, I look at these works as more interactive. In the pictures they all appear highly reflective, so when standing in front of them you're forced to view your own reflection upon the flawed art.
I look at these works as more interactive. In the pictures they all appear highly reflective, so when standing in front of them you're forced to view your own reflection upon the flawed art.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by davievegas on May 25, 2016 17:43:57 GMT 1, I look at these works as more interactive. In the pictures they all appear highly reflective, so when standing in front of them you're forced to view your own reflection upon the flawed art.
I look at these works as more interactive. In the pictures they all appear highly reflective, so when standing in front of them you're forced to view your own reflection upon the flawed art. Way too much thinking for my liking. Thats like the artist who puts a "Dot" in the middle of the canvas and saying "What does this mean to you". This is why I collect street art/urban and not other art. He seems to be going the non street art route now and I wish him all the luck but I for one, would never buy this. Just not my cup of tea. It's one thing if this was a semi-successful/popular artist but its Dolk. Just makes no sense to me to change up your style to where its unrecognizable. |
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by Deleted on May 25, 2016 18:02:42 GMT 1, `I think i like (understand) it now i read Gards post ( Thankyou Gard)
Its good this art lark, always something different, this is the year of the reflection, be in the art baby
This is good from the earlier link, re the scratched art
With references to the automobile โ one of the most expensive thing an average person owns during his or her lifetime โ through the use of aluminium, followed by creating a key scratch in the middle of its surface, it also seems as if DOLK wants to remind us what true vandalism looks like. The way I see, this exhibition seems to be a direct comment to how stencil art is no longer something the police, or the landlord for that matter, gets upset about. Instead, stencil art being more welcomed than punished, even paid for. With other words, itโs not tough enough anymore, which makes you wonder whether DOLK wants to teach both me and his followers a lesson or two with this one.
`I think i like (understand) it now i read Gards post ( Thankyou Gard)
Its good this art lark, always something different, this is the year of the reflection, be in the art baby
This is good from the earlier link, re the scratched art
With references to the automobile โ one of the most expensive thing an average person owns during his or her lifetime โ through the use of aluminium, followed by creating a key scratch in the middle of its surface, it also seems as if DOLK wants to remind us what true vandalism looks like. The way I see, this exhibition seems to be a direct comment to how stencil art is no longer something the police, or the landlord for that matter, gets upset about. Instead, stencil art being more welcomed than punished, even paid for. With other words, itโs not tough enough anymore, which makes you wonder whether DOLK wants to teach both me and his followers a lesson or two with this one.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by soam24 on May 25, 2016 18:05:35 GMT 1, So Norway.
So Norway.
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by BKBOI on May 25, 2016 18:25:29 GMT 1, I look at these works as more interactive. In the pictures they all appear highly reflective, so when standing in front of them you're forced to view your own reflection upon the flawed art.
I look at these works as more interactive. In the pictures they all appear highly reflective, so when standing in front of them you're forced to view your own reflection upon the flawed art. I get that. I have experienced that with Jeff Koons' work. That is probably where he got some of the inspiration. I just feel the same was a davievegas in that there is no continuity in his work here. It is just a jump from Urban Art to Contemporary with nothing in between. It does not show any process of progression. He started buffing his old street pieces and then started playing with this shiny stuff. And this is just a 180 turn btw because if you do a 360, you definitely go back to your original direction. |
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Dolk Rip On / Rip Off May 24th , by davievegas on May 25, 2016 18:35:21 GMT 1, I look at these works as more interactive. In the pictures they all appear highly reflective, so when standing in front of them you're forced to view your own reflection upon the flawed art. I get that. I have experienced that with Jeff Koons' work. That is probably where he got some of the inspiration. I just feel the same was a davievegas in that there is no continuity in his work here. It is just a jump from Urban Art to Contemporary with nothing in between. It does not show any process of progression. He started buffing his old street pieces and then started playing with this shiny stuff. And this is just a 180 turn btw because if you do a 360, you definitely go back to your original direction. 
I look at these works as more interactive. In the pictures they all appear highly reflective, so when standing in front of them you're forced to view your own reflection upon the flawed art. I get that. I have experienced that with Jeff Koons' work. That is probably where he got some of the inspiration. I just feel the same was a davievegas in that there is no continuity in his work here. It is just a jump from Urban Art to Contemporary with nothing in between. It does not show any process of progression. He started buffing his old street pieces and then started playing with this shiny stuff. And this is just a 180 turn btw because if you do a 360, you definitely go back to your original direction. I had to go back and edit/change "360" to "180". Was in the moment |
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