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Labour Party , by Daniel Silk on Jun 25, 2016 12:54:27 GMT 1,
Discussions on the UK Labour Party, current news and its future.
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Labour Party , by Daniel Silk on Jun 25, 2016 13:00:00 GMT 1, With Jeremy Corbyn looking like he is fighting to remain party leader what happens next?
To me it feel like the Labour Party has two choices, to keep Corbyn and become a 4th or 5th place party or change its leader and work harder to connect better with the wishes of its past supporters.
I think if they pick Corbyn they are boomed! And a big chunk of their support will switch to UKIP at future elections.
What do you think is best? What do you think they should do?
With Jeremy Corbyn looking like he is fighting to remain party leader what happens next?
To me it feel like the Labour Party has two choices, to keep Corbyn and become a 4th or 5th place party or change its leader and work harder to connect better with the wishes of its past supporters.
I think if they pick Corbyn they are boomed! And a big chunk of their support will switch to UKIP at future elections.
What do you think is best? What do you think they should do?
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Labour Party , by sameoldthing on Jun 25, 2016 13:17:13 GMT 1, With Jeremy Corbyn looking like he is fighting to remain party leader what happens next? To me it feel like the Labour Party has two choices, to keep Corbyn and become a 4th or 5th place party or change its leader and work harder to connect better with the wishes of its past supporters. I think if they pick Corbyn they are boomed! And a big chunk of their support will switch to UKIP at future elections. What do you think is best? What do you think they should do?
Corbyn i hope will get the support he deserves and stays!
With Jeremy Corbyn looking like he is fighting to remain party leader what happens next? To me it feel like the Labour Party has two choices, to keep Corbyn and become a 4th or 5th place party or change its leader and work harder to connect better with the wishes of its past supporters. I think if they pick Corbyn they are boomed! And a big chunk of their support will switch to UKIP at future elections. What do you think is best? What do you think they should do? Corbyn i hope will get the support he deserves and stays! |
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Labour Party , by Cornish Crayon on Jun 25, 2016 13:19:56 GMT 1, You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ?
Why ?
You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ?
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Labour Party , by Reader on Jun 25, 2016 13:25:47 GMT 1, With Jeremy Corbyn looking like he is fighting to remain party leader what happens next? To me it feel like the Labour Party has two choices, to keep Corbyn and become a 4th or 5th place party or change its leader and work harder to connect better with the wishes of its past supporters. I think if they pick Corbyn they are boomed! And a big chunk of their support will switch to UKIP at future elections. What do you think is best? What do you think they should do?
With Jeremy Corbyn looking like he is fighting to remain party leader what happens next? To me it feel like the Labour Party has two choices, to keep Corbyn and become a 4th or 5th place party or change its leader and work harder to connect better with the wishes of its past supporters. I think if they pick Corbyn they are boomed! And a big chunk of their support will switch to UKIP at future elections. What do you think is best? What do you think they should do? England deserves a Corbyn, needs a Corbyn. Possibly a younger more vibrant Corbyn, but unfortunately that level of wisdom and empathy usually comes with age. Socially democratic politics is the future for England's youth. Without that shift back to the left, there is #nofuture for Labour. A choice between Blairites and Thatcherites is no choice at all and the majority of those under 30 know that, center right or more center right anyone? UK needs a revolution in policy. #feelthebern |
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Labour Party , by Reader on Jun 25, 2016 13:26:31 GMT 1, You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ? Why ?
You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ? Why ? Because he's a Tory and the Conservatives are now royally screwed ;-) |
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Labour Party , by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 13:27:12 GMT 1, You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ? Why ?
You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ? Why ? 'Cos there's f*** all interesting happening in the world of urban art. |
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Labour Party , by sameoldthing on Jun 25, 2016 13:34:52 GMT 1, You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ? Why ? 'Cos there's f*** all interesting happening in the world of urban art.
Is that you Boris???
You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ? Why ? 'Cos there's f*** all interesting happening in the world of urban art. Is that you Boris??? |
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Labour Party , by Daniel Silk on Jun 25, 2016 13:41:25 GMT 1, With Jeremy Corbyn looking like he is fighting to remain party leader what happens next? To me it feel like the Labour Party has two choices, to keep Corbyn and become a 4th or 5th place party or change its leader and work harder to connect better with the wishes of its past supporters. I think if they pick Corbyn they are boomed! And a big chunk of their support will switch to UKIP at future elections. What do you think is best? What do you think they should do? England deserves a Corbyn, needs a Corbyn. Possibly a younger more vibrant Corbyn, but unfortunately that level of wisdom and empathy usually comes with age. Socially democratic politics is the future for England's youth. Without that shift back to the left, there is #nofuture for Labour. A choice between Blairites and Thatcherites is no choice at all and the majority of those under 30 know that, center right or more center right anyone? UK needs a revolution in policy. #feelthebern
With Jeremy Corbyn looking like he is fighting to remain party leader what happens next? To me it feel like the Labour Party has two choices, to keep Corbyn and become a 4th or 5th place party or change its leader and work harder to connect better with the wishes of its past supporters. I think if they pick Corbyn they are boomed! And a big chunk of their support will switch to UKIP at future elections. What do you think is best? What do you think they should do? England deserves a Corbyn, needs a Corbyn. Possibly a younger more vibrant Corbyn, but unfortunately that level of wisdom and empathy usually comes with age. Socially democratic politics is the future for England's youth. Without that shift back to the left, there is #nofuture for Labour. A choice between Blairites and Thatcherites is no choice at all and the majority of those under 30 know that, center right or more center right anyone? UK needs a revolution in policy. #feelthebern Do you think it's possible for Labour to win an election with Corbyn? |
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Labour Party , by Cornish Crayon on Jun 25, 2016 13:41:34 GMT 1, You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ? Why ? 'Cos there's f*** all interesting happening in the world of urban art.
Shall we have a vote to stay or leave the forum 
You've started a thread based on just the Labour Party ? ? ? Why ? 'Cos there's f*** all interesting happening in the world of urban art. Shall we have a vote to stay or leave the forum |
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Labour Party , by sameoldthing on Jun 25, 2016 13:50:01 GMT 1, England deserves a Corbyn, needs a Corbyn. Possibly a younger more vibrant Corbyn, but unfortunately that level of wisdom and empathy usually comes with age. Socially democratic politics is the future for England's youth. Without that shift back to the left, there is #nofuture for Labour. A choice between Blairites and Thatcherites is no choice at all and the majority of those under 30 know that, center right or more center right anyone? UK needs a revolution in policy. #feelthebern Do you think it's possible for Labour to win an election with Corbyn?
Labour - immigration and idiots who don't understand probably not.
England deserves a Corbyn, needs a Corbyn. Possibly a younger more vibrant Corbyn, but unfortunately that level of wisdom and empathy usually comes with age. Socially democratic politics is the future for England's youth. Without that shift back to the left, there is #nofuture for Labour. A choice between Blairites and Thatcherites is no choice at all and the majority of those under 30 know that, center right or more center right anyone? UK needs a revolution in policy. #feelthebern Do you think it's possible for Labour to win an election with Corbyn? Labour - immigration and idiots who don't understand probably not. |
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Labour Party , by Reader on Jun 25, 2016 14:05:16 GMT 1, England deserves a Corbyn, needs a Corbyn. Possibly a younger more vibrant Corbyn, but unfortunately that level of wisdom and empathy usually comes with age. Socially democratic politics is the future for England's youth. Without that shift back to the left, there is #nofuture for Labour. A choice between Blairites and Thatcherites is no choice at all and the majority of those under 30 know that, center right or more center right anyone? UK needs a revolution in policy. #feelthebern Do you think it's possible for Labour to win an election with Corbyn?
England deserves a Corbyn, needs a Corbyn. Possibly a younger more vibrant Corbyn, but unfortunately that level of wisdom and empathy usually comes with age. Socially democratic politics is the future for England's youth. Without that shift back to the left, there is #nofuture for Labour. A choice between Blairites and Thatcherites is no choice at all and the majority of those under 30 know that, center right or more center right anyone? UK needs a revolution in policy. #feelthebern Do you think it's possible for Labour to win an election with Corbyn? Possibly, possibly not. But I don't think that's the point. There needs to be a genuine grass roots revolt against neoliberal politics, a shift in culture from individualism, wealth and greed back to community & collectivism. Caring about your neighbour regardless of colour or creed. The UK has entered the age of Post-Factual Politics, where people are elected on lies propogated by media barons, corporations, lobby groups and their cronies. Maybe the referendum result is a good thing, maybe it's the only way those 17million, after been royally screwed over the coming years, will understand just what it is they've done and join the chant for change. For sure if the media give Corbyn equal and fair coverage in the media, then yes, he'd win by a landslide. |
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Labour Party , by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 14:15:29 GMT 1, New Labour party anthem.
New Labour party anthem.
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Labour Party , by Daniel Silk on Jun 25, 2016 14:19:20 GMT 1, Do you think it's possible for Labour to win an election with Corbyn? Possibly, possibly not. But I don't think that's the point. There needs to be a genuine grass roots revolt against neoliberal politics, a shift in culture from individualism, wealth and greed back to community & collectivism. Caring about your neighbour regardless of colour or creed. The UK has entered the age of Post-Factual Politics, where people are elected on lies propogated by media barons, corporations, lobby groups and their cronies. Maybe the referendum result is a good thing, maybe it's the only way those 17million, after been royally screwed over the coming years, will understand just what it is they've done and join the chant for change. For sure if the media give Corbyn equal and fair coverage in the media, then yes, he'd win by a landslide.
Do you think it's possible for Labour to win an election with Corbyn? Possibly, possibly not. But I don't think that's the point. There needs to be a genuine grass roots revolt against neoliberal politics, a shift in culture from individualism, wealth and greed back to community & collectivism. Caring about your neighbour regardless of colour or creed. The UK has entered the age of Post-Factual Politics, where people are elected on lies propogated by media barons, corporations, lobby groups and their cronies. Maybe the referendum result is a good thing, maybe it's the only way those 17million, after been royally screwed over the coming years, will understand just what it is they've done and join the chant for change. For sure if the media give Corbyn equal and fair coverage in the media, then yes, he'd win by a landslide. I agree that a party is needed with the type of views that Corbyn supports, but I don't think it could ever win an election, but as you say, that's not necessarily the point. I feel that with the growth of internet media many of the traditional labour supporters have realised that the party is or has certainly become a bit more extreme than they honestly agree with. I feel the party has over estimated the strength of views of its supporters and just hearing Corbyn talk today, I think it will take a big drop in support at the next election before the party rethinks its future. |
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Labour Party , by Reader on Jun 25, 2016 14:33:12 GMT 1, Possibly, possibly not. But I don't think that's the point. There needs to be a genuine grass roots revolt against neoliberal politics, a shift in culture from individualism, wealth and greed back to community & collectivism. Caring about your neighbour regardless of colour or creed. The UK has entered the age of Post-Factual Politics, where people are elected on lies propogated by media barons, corporations, lobby groups and their cronies. Maybe the referendum result is a good thing, maybe it's the only way those 17million, after been royally screwed over the coming years, will understand just what it is they've done and join the chant for change. For sure if the media give Corbyn equal and fair coverage in the media, then yes, he'd win by a landslide. I agree that a party is needed with the type of views that Corbyn supports, but I don't think it could ever win an election, but as you say, that's not necessarily the point. I feel that with the growth of internet media many of the traditional labour supporters have realised that the party is or has certainly become a bit more extreme than they honestly agree with. I feel the party has over estimated the strength of views of its supporters and just hearing Corbyn talk today, I think it will take a big drop in support at the next election before the party rethinks its future.
Possibly, possibly not. But I don't think that's the point. There needs to be a genuine grass roots revolt against neoliberal politics, a shift in culture from individualism, wealth and greed back to community & collectivism. Caring about your neighbour regardless of colour or creed. The UK has entered the age of Post-Factual Politics, where people are elected on lies propogated by media barons, corporations, lobby groups and their cronies. Maybe the referendum result is a good thing, maybe it's the only way those 17million, after been royally screwed over the coming years, will understand just what it is they've done and join the chant for change. For sure if the media give Corbyn equal and fair coverage in the media, then yes, he'd win by a landslide. I agree that a party is needed with the type of views that Corbyn supports, but I don't think it could ever win an election, but as you say, that's not necessarily the point. I feel that with the growth of internet media many of the traditional labour supporters have realised that the party is or has certainly become a bit more extreme than they honestly agree with. I feel the party has over estimated the strength of views of its supporters and just hearing Corbyn talk today, I think it will take a big drop in support at the next election before the party rethinks its future. Yes, maybe you need a more educated citizenry and a fairer media before a Corbyn is able to get the message across. Tories split, Labour split.. infighting everywhere. Clear message from UKIP. Doesn't bode well hey, but a lot can happen in two years. Who would have expected Bernie Sanders to have such mass support on a very similar message. |
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Labour Party , by chads007 on Jun 25, 2016 14:36:12 GMT 1, Why just the labour party? What about the divided and increasingly right wing Tories or the fading liberals (remember them)
Why just the labour party? What about the divided and increasingly right wing Tories or the fading liberals (remember them)
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Labour Party , by rgc on Jun 25, 2016 16:06:32 GMT 1, Simple.....David Milliband needs to return and is electable!!!
Simple.....David Milliband needs to return and is electable!!!
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Labour Party , by chads007 on Jun 25, 2016 16:08:39 GMT 1, Chukka may be a good bet..but think the media have something on him which is why he pulled out last time.
Chukka may be a good bet..but think the media have something on him which is why he pulled out last time.
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Labour Party , by Henry Dunger on Jun 25, 2016 16:32:31 GMT 1, New Tory PM will want to be mandated which will prompt a snap General Election in the Autumn.
No aspiring Labour MPs will want to actively challenge Corbyn to then go into a GE which Labour will almost definitely lose.
They will undermine him for the next 3 months to prompt a leadership change post election, when I hope Keir Starmer will emerge from the shadows.
In the meantime Corbyn should be hanging his head in shame for taking such a spineless non-leadership position on the referendum.
New Tory PM will want to be mandated which will prompt a snap General Election in the Autumn.
No aspiring Labour MPs will want to actively challenge Corbyn to then go into a GE which Labour will almost definitely lose.
They will undermine him for the next 3 months to prompt a leadership change post election, when I hope Keir Starmer will emerge from the shadows.
In the meantime Corbyn should be hanging his head in shame for taking such a spineless non-leadership position on the referendum.
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Labour Party , by Dibbs 45 on Jun 25, 2016 16:46:03 GMT 1, Not another political thread. The forum has changed. What car you drive? Labour Party? Scottish Thread? Euro 2016? Is there any art left to talk about?
Not another political thread. The forum has changed. What car you drive? Labour Party? Scottish Thread? Euro 2016? Is there any art left to talk about?
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Labour Party , by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 16:53:33 GMT 1, Not another political thread. The forum has changed. What car you drive? Labour Party? Scottish Thread? Euro 2016? Is there any art left to talk about?
Not another political thread. The forum has changed. What car you drive? Labour Party? Scottish Thread? Euro 2016? Is there any art left to talk about? Let's not forget that England rugby went well too earlier today ;-) |
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Labour Party , by Coach on Jun 25, 2016 17:14:52 GMT 1, Not another political thread. The forum has changed. What car you drive? Labour Party? Scottish Thread? Euro 2016? Is there any art left to talk about?
I agree dibbs. As you probably noticed, I felt quite engaged with the leave/remain debate. Now the referendum has happened I shall get back to the art. Whilst people are of course free to talk about what they want to, I hope that's the direction the forum takes too.
Not another political thread. The forum has changed. What car you drive? Labour Party? Scottish Thread? Euro 2016? Is there any art left to talk about? I agree dibbs. As you probably noticed, I felt quite engaged with the leave/remain debate. Now the referendum has happened I shall get back to the art. Whilst people are of course free to talk about what they want to, I hope that's the direction the forum takes too. |
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Labour Party , by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 18:57:19 GMT 1, Alternatively, keep Corbyn in the back ground, pulling the strings and have a very eloquant front person who can make passionate speeches.
The Labour party needs to move with the times. Corbyn teamed up with Galloway when he became party leader. What a joke that was, that he took Galloway seriously.
Bob Geldof on the Thames flashing the V's and shouting at Farage. Young Labour voters have nothing in common with these old gits.
Alternatively, keep Corbyn in the back ground, pulling the strings and have a very eloquant front person who can make passionate speeches.
The Labour party needs to move with the times. Corbyn teamed up with Galloway when he became party leader. What a joke that was, that he took Galloway seriously.
Bob Geldof on the Thames flashing the V's and shouting at Farage. Young Labour voters have nothing in common with these old gits.
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Labour Party , by chads007 on Jun 25, 2016 20:25:58 GMT 1, Bye bye corbyn. Consign yourself to history for not connecting with grassroots labour
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36628305
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Labour Party , by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 21:33:32 GMT 1, I wonder how many of those votes are by Conservatives?
I wonder how many of those votes are by Conservatives? I'd like to think Conservatives would be dealing with their own problems, because they are far greater than those of Labour. |
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Labour Party , by avec art on Jun 25, 2016 21:55:44 GMT 1, I think it might need over 17 million signatures for it to be of any real significance, otherwise it'll just be seen as sour grapes. At this rate it might actually get there by Monday.
I think it might need over 17 million signatures for it to be of any real significance, otherwise it'll just be seen as sour grapes. At this rate it might actually get there by Monday. |
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Labour Party , by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 22:14:07 GMT 1, I think it might need over 17 million signatures for it to be of any real significance, otherwise it'll just be seen as sour grapes. At this rate it might actually get there by Monday.
It wouldn't be accurate any way, anybody can signed it multiple times with a few fake details and email address
Cameron has already said there won't be a 2nd referendum, he's leaving anyway
I think it might need over 17 million signatures for it to be of any real significance, otherwise it'll just be seen as sour grapes. At this rate it might actually get there by Monday. It wouldn't be accurate any way, anybody can signed it multiple times with a few fake details and email address Cameron has already said there won't be a 2nd referendum, he's leaving anyway |
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