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Art in the Future, Canvas, Paper, Plastic?, by Daniel Silk on Sept 10, 2016 12:17:42 GMT 1, How do you think the production of Art and the materials might change over the next 25 or 50 years?
Prints on paper can have all sorts of problems when framing, so could we see prints slowing being produced onto new materials? could some type of plastic be used in a similar way to the new bank notes? something that is waterproof and is almost impossible to damage.
What do you think?
How do you think the production of Art and the materials might change over the next 25 or 50 years?
Prints on paper can have all sorts of problems when framing, so could we see prints slowing being produced onto new materials? could some type of plastic be used in a similar way to the new bank notes? something that is waterproof and is almost impossible to damage.
What do you think?
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sugar72
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Art in the Future, Canvas, Paper, Plastic?, by sugar72 on Sept 10, 2016 15:49:12 GMT 1, I think it'll always come back to paper, canvas.
Much like I work in Fine wine, sold a case of 12 bottles worth 65k and this will always be bottled under natural Cork, regardless of all the problems winemakers etc have with Cork taint! A biological reaction NOT the misconceived few bits of Cork in the bottle!
Their are many other closures in wines, plastic corks, hybrid corks, stelvin, vinolok etc. They all serve a purpose in the practical arena of keeping wine fresh but do not allow the same quality of ageing under natural Cork.
A lot of growers now seal a lot of their wines in these alternative closures bit remain with natural Cork for all their top wine, regardless of problems.
Anyway, I see a similar correlation to art.
I think it'll always come back to paper, canvas.
Much like I work in Fine wine, sold a case of 12 bottles worth 65k and this will always be bottled under natural Cork, regardless of all the problems winemakers etc have with Cork taint! A biological reaction NOT the misconceived few bits of Cork in the bottle!
Their are many other closures in wines, plastic corks, hybrid corks, stelvin, vinolok etc. They all serve a purpose in the practical arena of keeping wine fresh but do not allow the same quality of ageing under natural Cork.
A lot of growers now seal a lot of their wines in these alternative closures bit remain with natural Cork for all their top wine, regardless of problems.
Anyway, I see a similar correlation to art.
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Art in the Future, Canvas, Paper, Plastic?, by Daniel Silk on Sept 10, 2016 15:59:25 GMT 1, I can understand it with wine, but in Art surely it's different as everyone want to keep it perfect, mint?
But I guess in the current situation limited editions are always getting smaller from damage and bad framing, so the Artists and collectors don't mind as that helps keep the values up. Maybe if the Art was indestructible it might lower vales in the long run with the number of pieces of art available always being pretty strong.
I can understand it with wine, but in Art surely it's different as everyone want to keep it perfect, mint?
But I guess in the current situation limited editions are always getting smaller from damage and bad framing, so the Artists and collectors don't mind as that helps keep the values up. Maybe if the Art was indestructible it might lower vales in the long run with the number of pieces of art available always being pretty strong.
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Art in the Future, Canvas, Paper, Plastic?, by Hairbland on Sept 10, 2016 16:19:30 GMT 1, How do you think the production of Art and the materials might change over the next 25 or 50 years? Prints on paper can have all sorts of problems when framing, so could we see prints slowing being produced onto new materials? could some type of plastic be used in a similar way to the new bank notes? something that is waterproof and is almost impossible to damage. What do you think?
If referring specifically to prints, all sorts of surfaces both interesting and at times ill-chosen seem to be used, to create odd and limited editions for consumer benefit.
But the idea of paper, and printing, goes back eons and if as the main source would be replaced it would need to happen at many levels. Artists, middle men and consumers.
Once we kill off all the trees it might be a different story, although at that point the concerns over print releases might be inconsequential!
How do you think the production of Art and the materials might change over the next 25 or 50 years? Prints on paper can have all sorts of problems when framing, so could we see prints slowing being produced onto new materials? could some type of plastic be used in a similar way to the new bank notes? something that is waterproof and is almost impossible to damage. What do you think? Rauschenberg amongst a phalanx of others have long used these materials, often at once. The Os Gemeos show (great opening Thursday) a most recent example. If referring specifically to prints, all sorts of surfaces both interesting and at times ill-chosen seem to be used, to create odd and limited editions for consumer benefit. But the idea of paper, and printing, goes back eons and if as the main source would be replaced it would need to happen at many levels. Artists, middle men and consumers. Once we kill off all the trees it might be a different story, although at that point the concerns over print releases might be inconsequential! |
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sugar72
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Art in the Future, Canvas, Paper, Plastic?, by sugar72 on Sept 10, 2016 16:41:57 GMT 1, I can understand it with wine, but in Art surely it's different as everyone want to keep it perfect, mint? But I guess in the current situation limited editions are always getting smaller from damage and bad framing, so the Artists and collectors don't mind as that helps keep the values up. Maybe if the Art was indestructible it might lower vales in the long run with the number of pieces of art available always being pretty strong.
Yes get your point but it's like hairbland says the system is full of many at different levels, yes we all want perfection but as we know in nature as well as art etc that perfection is not always perfect!
Something is taken away from the heart of the piece by concentrating so much on the process we miss the heart and emotion.
Sorry I'm beginning to sound a little like I used to when I studied philosophy at uni!!
I can understand it with wine, but in Art surely it's different as everyone want to keep it perfect, mint? But I guess in the current situation limited editions are always getting smaller from damage and bad framing, so the Artists and collectors don't mind as that helps keep the values up. Maybe if the Art was indestructible it might lower vales in the long run with the number of pieces of art available always being pretty strong. [b Yes get your point but it's like hairbland says the system is full of many at different levels, yes we all want perfection but as we know in nature as well as art etc that perfection is not always perfect! Something is taken away from the heart of the piece by concentrating so much on the process we miss the heart and emotion. Sorry I'm beginning to sound a little like I used to when I studied philosophy at uni!! |
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