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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by pippyt75 on Jan 24, 2017 1:19:11 GMT 1, To me the Warhol and haring comparisons don't stand up. Partying and free love are quite obviously cool, domestic violence isn't. Anyway I'll say no more about it as maybe I don't know all the facts and would t want to speculate if I don't. As you say, back to the art!
To me the Warhol and haring comparisons don't stand up. Partying and free love are quite obviously cool, domestic violence isn't. Anyway I'll say no more about it as maybe I don't know all the facts and would t want to speculate if I don't. As you say, back to the art!
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daveart
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by daveart on Jan 24, 2017 3:45:53 GMT 1, Fair point pippyt .. no excuses for those things. Sad that we have to even cover it here on an art forum
Fair point pippyt .. no excuses for those things. Sad that we have to even cover it here on an art forum
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 12:14:22 GMT 1, Whats his art all about. is he a decorator?
anyway he likes his white lines.
looks smart enough also being the bad boy of the art world not to insult the hand that feeds him.
Whats his art all about. is he a decorator?
anyway he likes his white lines.
looks smart enough also being the bad boy of the art world not to insult the hand that feeds him.
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Whitefish on Jan 25, 2017 2:00:21 GMT 1, Whats his art all about. is he a decorator? anyway he likes his white lines. looks smart enough also being the bad boy of the art world not to insult the hand that feeds him.
Then this
Whats his art all about. is he a decorator? anyway he likes his white lines. looks smart enough also being the bad boy of the art world not to insult the hand that feeds him. This Then this |
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Amber Halo
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Amber Halo on Jan 25, 2017 4:11:19 GMT 1, Arthunter99 thanks for posting that. Some say this board has gone to pot, and I know we've lost some good members. But I learn things from posts like this all the time. Thanks. Halo.
Arthunter99 thanks for posting that. Some say this board has gone to pot, and I know we've lost some good members. But I learn things from posts like this all the time. Thanks. Halo.
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by nobokov on Jan 25, 2017 6:19:01 GMT 1, Arthunter99 thanks for posting that. Some say this board has gone to pot, and I know we've lost some good members. But I learn things from posts like this all the time. Thanks. Halo.
Halo, I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone to shit. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back?
From what I've seen so far, there are many helpful and generous members around. There are also those who seem to generally in a crappy mood and love to piss on all of the art that's put forward. There are those who chime in only when it comes time for a giveaway or secret santa, then skirt away without so much as a thank you.
UAA is certainly a lot more informative than ExpressoBeans, whose conversations generally center around flipping giclees and strange looking posters, using acronyms and words that I can't seem to decipher. Drymounting this and drymounting that..."lulz" and some happy face drinking something repeatedly. It feels more American and juvenile on there for some reason, even though there are many crossover members between here and there.
The discussions here seem to be 40% about scoring drops, waiting for shipments to arrive, when the next release is going to happen, 20% accusing and berating members for being flippers (probably higher), 25% complaining about cliched artists, 10% complimenting one another on framing choices, and 5% discussion about art/ideas.
In looking at both boards, I'm starting to think that the true art lovers might really be the ones who buy museum posters and art books, and the rest who seek numbered, signed editions with COAs, with hand-deckled edges, are in it for another reason entirely.
Nevertheless, I still do like coming here, the highlights being MET's college dissertations, quips from Dr. Plip, seeing pictures of everyone's personal art collections and visits to openings/exhibitions, notice on the rare drops (like the Hockney book), learning more about artists that I never thought I would like a year ago, the sharing of information like upcoming documentaries/youtube clips, reading dodelicquot's posts (which I never completely understand, but generally get his point - I love that there's always something lost in the translation), and I honestly get a kick out of hearing some British sayings that I only hear on Thomas the Tank engine in the US (chuffed, gutted, etc.). I also liked hearing nordicstar's raw frankness and sarcasm - it's a shame she jumped ship.
What do you all like about this place? What aspects could use improvements?
Arthunter99 thanks for posting that. Some say this board has gone to pot, and I know we've lost some good members. But I learn things from posts like this all the time. Thanks. Halo. Thanks Arthunter. Halo, I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone to shit. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back? From what I've seen so far, there are many helpful and generous members around. There are also those who seem to generally in a crappy mood and love to piss on all of the art that's put forward. There are those who chime in only when it comes time for a giveaway or secret santa, then skirt away without so much as a thank you. UAA is certainly a lot more informative than ExpressoBeans, whose conversations generally center around flipping giclees and strange looking posters, using acronyms and words that I can't seem to decipher. Drymounting this and drymounting that..."lulz" and some happy face drinking something repeatedly. It feels more American and juvenile on there for some reason, even though there are many crossover members between here and there. The discussions here seem to be 40% about scoring drops, waiting for shipments to arrive, when the next release is going to happen, 20% accusing and berating members for being flippers (probably higher), 25% complaining about cliched artists, 10% complimenting one another on framing choices, and 5% discussion about art/ideas. In looking at both boards, I'm starting to think that the true art lovers might really be the ones who buy museum posters and art books, and the rest who seek numbered, signed editions with COAs, with hand-deckled edges, are in it for another reason entirely. Nevertheless, I still do like coming here, the highlights being MET's college dissertations, quips from Dr. Plip, seeing pictures of everyone's personal art collections and visits to openings/exhibitions, notice on the rare drops (like the Hockney book), learning more about artists that I never thought I would like a year ago, the sharing of information like upcoming documentaries/youtube clips, reading dodelicquot's posts (which I never completely understand, but generally get his point - I love that there's always something lost in the translation), and I honestly get a kick out of hearing some British sayings that I only hear on Thomas the Tank engine in the US (chuffed, gutted, etc.). I also liked hearing nordicstar's raw frankness and sarcasm - it's a shame she jumped ship. What do you all like about this place? What aspects could use improvements? |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by WOOF on Jan 25, 2017 6:29:05 GMT 1, ^^^^
I respect that this is an important conversation to have, but maybe start a new thread instead of hijacking this one...
^^^^
I respect that this is an important conversation to have, but maybe start a new thread instead of hijacking this one...
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nobokov
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by nobokov on Jan 25, 2017 6:40:16 GMT 1, ^^^^ I respect that this is an important conversation to have, but maybe start a new thread instead of hijacking this one...
I think I just saved everyone 3 additional pages.
^^^^ I respect that this is an important conversation to have, but maybe start a new thread instead of hijacking this one... Yeah, you're probably right. I'll get out of the way and let the train of RETNA tirades continue on its path to eventual disappointment. There will be griping on the price, insults about the print (won't he do something new?), cries about missing the drop, questions about when it's going to ship, finger pointing at potential flippers, remarks on how high the eBay prices are immediately after its sold out, additional reminders about domestic violence and drunk IG posting, and then silence. I think I just saved everyone 3 additional pages. |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Matt on Jan 25, 2017 9:40:06 GMT 1, I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone tos**t. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back?
Cliff notes version
- Forum was about art in the street, with a secondary focus on the bi-product of said art, aka prints
- In the last 12-18 months balance shifted to being a forum about prints, not art
- This commoditisation attracts traders and brokers who focus content on value to flog their wares
- The members are born again as "investors", buying said wares, before they are hung out to dry
Conclusion : this morning instead of a flood of pics from the Invader show, recent posts are mostly reminders of Banksy prints increasing by 1k overnight, or some story about - I kid you not - emergating to Canada...
I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone tos**t. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back? Cliff notes version - Forum was about art in the street, with a secondary focus on the bi-product of said art, aka prints
- In the last 12-18 months balance shifted to being a forum about prints, not art
- This commoditisation attracts traders and brokers who focus content on value to flog their wares
- The members are born again as "investors", buying said wares, before they are hung out to dry
Conclusion : this morning instead of a flood of pics from the Invader show, recent posts are mostly reminders of Banksy prints increasing by 1k overnight, or some story about - I kid you not - emergating to Canada...
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Coach on Jan 25, 2017 10:50:51 GMT 1, I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone tos**t. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back? Cliff notes version - Forum was about art in the street, with a secondary focus on the bi-product of said art, aka prints
- In the last 12-18 months balance shifted to being a forum about prints, not art
- This commoditisation attracts traders and brokers who focus content on value to flog their wares
- The members are born again as "investors", buying said wares, before they are hung out to dry
Conclusion : ย this ย morning instead of a flood of pics from the Invader show, recent posts are mostly reminders of Banksy prints increasing by 1k overnight, or some story about ย - I kid you not - emergating to Canada...
Price check threads.
I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone tos**t. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back? Cliff notes version - Forum was about art in the street, with a secondary focus on the bi-product of said art, aka prints
- In the last 12-18 months balance shifted to being a forum about prints, not art
- This commoditisation attracts traders and brokers who focus content on value to flog their wares
- The members are born again as "investors", buying said wares, before they are hung out to dry
Conclusion : ย this ย morning instead of a flood of pics from the Invader show, recent posts are mostly reminders of Banksy prints increasing by 1k overnight, or some story about ย - I kid you not - emergating to Canada...
Price check threads. |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 12:33:50 GMT 1, Whats his art all about. is he a decorator? anyway he likes his white lines. looks smart enough also being the bad boy of the art world not to insult the hand that feeds him. This Then this
Gotta keep the investment protected I guess.
Whats his art all about. is he a decorator? anyway he likes his white lines. looks smart enough also being the bad boy of the art world not to insult the hand that feeds him. This Then this Gotta keep the investment protected I guess. |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 12:39:29 GMT 1, Thanks Arthunter. Halo, I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone tos**t. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back? Same story 1 year ago... It was good some years ago but gonna say that these kind of posts have always been there. Great post by the way, yes you could start a new thread to ask. As for the all RETNA bashing, I don't mind the ass-eating, pussy grabbing and al. (wife beating, that's another story), it is just that it is done in a very bullshit-gangsta-demago attitude. I hate people with attitude. When Zappa sang about going anal and ramming it, I am fine with it because it is humor and done in a sarcastic way, here it is not even fun ! I was quite amused to see that Retna's best client is a lawyer Mike Goldstein - @ladefenselawyer
but of course,
There are hundreds of artists out there doing similar type art and often a lot better too and without the backing or support of the Goldsteins of the world with their rich friends struggle but live in the real world.
Commercialising street art and rich kids playing at being urban warriors is fine, flashing the cash and mixing with celebs. It does attract a clique who will always support them no matter what. They only see certain art in terms of financial value.
Thanks Arthunter. Halo, I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone tos**t. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back? Same story 1 year ago... It was good some years ago but gonna say that these kind of posts have always been there. Great post by the way, yes you could start a new thread to ask. As for the all RETNA bashing, I don't mind the ass-eating, pussy grabbing and al. (wife beating, that's another story), it is just that it is done in a very bullshit-gangsta-demago attitude. I hate people with attitude. When Zappa sang about going anal and ramming it, I am fine with it because it is humor and done in a sarcastic way, here it is not even fun ! I was quite amused to see that Retna's best client is a lawyer Mike Goldstein - @ladefenselawyer but of course, There are hundreds of artists out there doing similar type art and often a lot better too and without the backing or support of the Goldsteins of the world with their rich friends struggle but live in the real world. Commercialising street art and rich kids playing at being urban warriors is fine, flashing the cash and mixing with celebs. It does attract a clique who will always support them no matter what. They only see certain art in terms of financial value. |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by nex on Jan 25, 2017 13:45:35 GMT 1, I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone tos**t. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back? Cliff notes version - Forum was about art in the street, with a secondary focus on the bi-product of said art, aka prints
- In the last 12-18 months balance shifted to being a forum about prints, not art
- This commoditisation attracts traders and brokers who focus content on value to flog their wares
- The members are born again as "investors", buying said wares, before they are hung out to dry
Conclusion : ย this ย morning instead of a flood of pics from the Invader show, recent posts are mostly reminders of Banksy prints increasing by 1k overnight, or some story about ย - I kid you not - emergating to Canada...
Nope I've been here 10+ years in various guises and I hate to burst your bubble but this place came from an ebay forum. There's always been money talk, just not at this level.
What's changed is a lot ALOT of knowledgeable members have left and been replaced by ppl without that knowledge
I seem to hear it frequently, that this board has gone tos**t. I've only been on here for a year and wonder what it was like before. What was it like before? And is there a way to bring that magic back? Cliff notes version - Forum was about art in the street, with a secondary focus on the bi-product of said art, aka prints
- In the last 12-18 months balance shifted to being a forum about prints, not art
- This commoditisation attracts traders and brokers who focus content on value to flog their wares
- The members are born again as "investors", buying said wares, before they are hung out to dry
Conclusion : ย this ย morning instead of a flood of pics from the Invader show, recent posts are mostly reminders of Banksy prints increasing by 1k overnight, or some story about ย - I kid you not - emergating to Canada...
Nope I've been here 10+ years in various guises and I hate to burst your bubble but this place came from an ebay forum. There's always been money talk, just not at this level. What's changed is a lot ALOT of knowledgeable members have left and been replaced by ppl without that knowledge |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 14:03:26 GMT 1, Seems to me that some people with knowledge don't like sharing the knowledge and don't like people with opinions about art and the machinations of the art world.
The inner circle on here is like the freemasons.
Seems to me that some people with knowledge don't like sharing the knowledge and don't like people with opinions about art and the machinations of the art world.
The inner circle on here is like the freemasons.
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Matt
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Matt on Jan 25, 2017 14:07:15 GMT 1, Cliff notes version - Forum was about art in the street, with a secondary focus on the bi-product of said art, aka prints
- In the last 12-18 months balance shifted to being a forum about prints, not art
- This commoditisation attracts traders and brokers who focus content on value to flog their wares
- The members are born again as "investors", buying said wares, before they are hung out to dry
Conclusion : ย this ย morning instead of a flood of pics from the Invader show, recent posts are mostly reminders of Banksy prints increasing by 1k overnight, or some story about ย - I kid you not - emergating to Canada...
Nope I've been here 10+ years in various guises and I hate to burst your bubble but this place came from an ebay forum. There's always been money talk, just not at this level. What's changed is a lot ALOT of knowledgeable members have left and been replaced by ppl without that knowledge
No bubble to burst mate, point in case really :
With the more knowledgeable folks gone, all that is left is talk of prints and their price, whereas there use to be a mix of that and some great content relying to Graff / art / shows / artists.
It's not only this forum by the way. The scene can't be fresh forever and like any counter culture it get absorbed by consumerism and will resurface somewhere else in some other shape...
Cliff notes version - Forum was about art in the street, with a secondary focus on the bi-product of said art, aka prints
- In the last 12-18 months balance shifted to being a forum about prints, not art
- This commoditisation attracts traders and brokers who focus content on value to flog their wares
- The members are born again as "investors", buying said wares, before they are hung out to dry
Conclusion : ย this ย morning instead of a flood of pics from the Invader show, recent posts are mostly reminders of Banksy prints increasing by 1k overnight, or some story about ย - I kid you not - emergating to Canada...
Nope I've been here 10+ years in various guises and I hate to burst your bubble but this place came from an ebay forum. There's always been money talk, just not at this level. What's changed is a lot ALOT of knowledgeable members have left and been replaced by ppl without that knowledge No bubble to burst mate, point in case really : With the more knowledgeable folks gone, all that is left is talk of prints and their price, whereas there use to be a mix of that and some great content relying to Graff / art / shows / artists. It's not only this forum by the way. The scene can't be fresh forever and like any counter culture it get absorbed by consumerism and will resurface somewhere else in some other shape... |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by daveart on Jan 26, 2017 0:57:10 GMT 1, i dont know if he is just totally full of BS .. but .. i cant imagine someone could not have more appreciation for RETNA after watching some of the videos available online. He has a bad side. point taken. and that is why i get tired of people re hashing JUST the worst of his behavior on every thread started about RETNA .. ok .. maybe not every thread.. but there is a trend. on video .. he comes across as articulate, smart, has a plan,etc. and personally, i do think some of his pieces go well beyond decorative and are very striking... some pieces easier than others .. can be read without much effort. makes it kind of cool.
i dont know if he is just totally full of BS .. but .. i cant imagine someone could not have more appreciation for RETNA after watching some of the videos available online. He has a bad side. point taken. and that is why i get tired of people re hashing JUST the worst of his behavior on every thread started about RETNA .. ok .. maybe not every thread.. but there is a trend. on video .. he comes across as articulate, smart, has a plan,etc. and personally, i do think some of his pieces go well beyond decorative and are very striking... some pieces easier than others .. can be read without much effort. makes it kind of cool.
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by nighthawk on Jan 26, 2017 16:18:05 GMT 1, Anyone have any serious info re: this print release? Please PM if so. Thanks 
Anyone have any serious info re: this print release? Please PM if so. Thanks |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Villain Dillon on Feb 1, 2017 2:19:29 GMT 1, Anyone have any serious info re: this print release? Please PM if so. Thanks
Anyone have any serious info re: this print release? Please PM if so. Thanks This Thursday, February 2nd at 10am PST. |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by daveart on Feb 1, 2017 3:01:52 GMT 1, so, there ya go...
so, there ya go...
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by kapusta on Feb 1, 2017 3:47:35 GMT 1, Very interested to see the price on these...
Very interested to see the price on these...
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Amber Halo on Feb 1, 2017 5:49:20 GMT 1, Gotta think high given size, artist and fact (it seems) it is a diptych.
Gotta think high given size, artist and fact (it seems) it is a diptych.
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by mla on Feb 1, 2017 7:53:30 GMT 1, The price is hilarious.
The price is hilarious.
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by WOOF on Feb 1, 2017 8:01:37 GMT 1,
It's certainly not for the faint of heart.
It's certainly not for the faint of heart. |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Argiebaji on Feb 1, 2017 8:03:07 GMT 1,
Do you know the price ..? Mla
Do you know the price ..? Mla |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Poster Bob on Feb 1, 2017 8:12:25 GMT 1, $10,000.
$10,000.
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Amber Halo
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Amber Halo on Feb 1, 2017 8:19:39 GMT 1,
Pesos?
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by Poster Bob on Feb 1, 2017 11:03:45 GMT 1, 'Price is hilarious', 'not for the faint hearted' Why not just say what it is?
'Price is hilarious', 'not for the faint hearted' Why not just say what it is? I said it. |
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Retna โข Say My Name, So You Can See Me , by mikey86 on Feb 1, 2017 11:32:49 GMT 1, If theres anyway to pre-order the new print please pm me. thanks
If theres anyway to pre-order the new print please pm me. thanks
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