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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by headphonesex on Mar 21, 2007 14:07:08 GMT 1, So, it's still not 100% certain it's for real. At that kind of money I would want FULL provenance. Anyway, if it were genuine what kind of price should it be in relation to a signed and stamped edition?
There wouldn't be any stamped Queen Vics.
For a signed & numbered i'd guess you'd be looking at ยฃ7-ยฃ8k. Maybe more if two people are particularly desperate for it.
So, it's still not 100% certain it's for real. At that kind of money I would want FULL provenance. Anyway, if it were genuine what kind of price should it be in relation to a signed and stamped edition? There wouldn't be any stamped Queen Vics. For a signed & numbered i'd guess you'd be looking at ยฃ7-ยฃ8k. Maybe more if two people are particularly desperate for it. |
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by BME on Mar 21, 2007 14:08:14 GMT 1, True- although if the bidders just wanted the image the signature woudn't matter at all and they could go and snap an unsigned Queen Vic up on the bay for ยฃ1800 and save themselves ยฃ600. Anyone paying for a signed print these days is probably looking for both the image and an investment - while the image is great I'm just suggesting that the investment isn't. Anyway, I see that the listing ahs been pulled so all hypothetical now.
True- although if the bidders just wanted the image the signature woudn't matter at all and they could go and snap an unsigned Queen Vic up on the bay for ยฃ1800 and save themselves ยฃ600. Anyone paying for a signed print these days is probably looking for both the image and an investment - while the image is great I'm just suggesting that the investment isn't. Anyway, I see that the listing ahs been pulled so all hypothetical now.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by hungrig on Mar 21, 2007 14:16:01 GMT 1, cru5tee,
Stamped 'Queen Vic' prints don't exist. A signed and numbered 'Queen Vic' at Andipa is ยฃ12,000.00.
Signed and unnumbered is an anomaly. It is far less desirable as it is outside the regular edition, and more difficult to authenticate since there will be no name registered at POW against a specific number (although perhaps still a name registered as having bought a signed print).
A gallery like Andipa probably wouldn't touch this print, since signed and numbered ones are available which are much easier to establish as genuine. I wouldn't buy it either, not because of any serious doubts over its genuineness but simply because of the hassle factor of proving it. I am also rather fond of edition numbers.
The price for this print should depend upon the quality of the provenance provided (e.g. the level of detail set out in the POW receipt) and, separately, the comfort that can be obtained from POW. In the end, however, the price will be anything someone is prepared to pay. Not everyone is aware of Andipa's pricing, so that will not necessarily be a marker for potential buyers on eBay.
Regardless of the price, it's a fantastic image. Anyone aware of its context will love it even more. Although the story is of doubtful authenticity, it is said that (while homosexuality was banned) lesbianism was left out of the Criminal Law Amendment Act of 1885 because Queen Victoria didn't believe sex between women was possible.
cru5tee,
Stamped 'Queen Vic' prints don't exist. A signed and numbered 'Queen Vic' at Andipa is ยฃ12,000.00.
Signed and unnumbered is an anomaly. It is far less desirable as it is outside the regular edition, and more difficult to authenticate since there will be no name registered at POW against a specific number (although perhaps still a name registered as having bought a signed print).
A gallery like Andipa probably wouldn't touch this print, since signed and numbered ones are available which are much easier to establish as genuine. I wouldn't buy it either, not because of any serious doubts over its genuineness but simply because of the hassle factor of proving it. I am also rather fond of edition numbers.
The price for this print should depend upon the quality of the provenance provided (e.g. the level of detail set out in the POW receipt) and, separately, the comfort that can be obtained from POW. In the end, however, the price will be anything someone is prepared to pay. Not everyone is aware of Andipa's pricing, so that will not necessarily be a marker for potential buyers on eBay.
Regardless of the price, it's a fantastic image. Anyone aware of its context will love it even more. Although the story is of doubtful authenticity, it is said that (while homosexuality was banned) lesbianism was left out of the Criminal Law Amendment Act of 1885 because Queen Victoria didn't believe sex between women was possible.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by slowmo on Mar 21, 2007 14:59:22 GMT 1, Think it may have been pulled.
Think it may have been pulled.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by moor on Nov 30, 2006 13:23:30 GMT 1, I bought a Queen Victoria print (numbered, tagged, not signed) on eBay just under three years ago and am now thinking of selling it (I'm not an art collector and didn't buy it as an investment, in fact I never even considered that it might increase in value except now, obviously, it has and i can't justify not cashing it in - I'm in far greater need of cash than I am of art). The problem is that I don't know how to go about authenticating it. I called POW and they have said that I need to find out the name of the original seller but I have no way of contacting the person I bought it from to ask them who they got it from. POW also suggested I contact Laz Inc but they don't authenticate prints.
I didn't think to get all the necessary info when I bought it as I only paid ยฃ100 for it and I really did think it was just something nice to hang on the wall.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I bought a Queen Victoria print (numbered, tagged, not signed) on eBay just under three years ago and am now thinking of selling it (I'm not an art collector and didn't buy it as an investment, in fact I never even considered that it might increase in value except now, obviously, it has and i can't justify not cashing it in - I'm in far greater need of cash than I am of art). The problem is that I don't know how to go about authenticating it. I called POW and they have said that I need to find out the name of the original seller but I have no way of contacting the person I bought it from to ask them who they got it from. POW also suggested I contact Laz Inc but they don't authenticate prints.
I didn't think to get all the necessary info when I bought it as I only paid ยฃ100 for it and I really did think it was just something nice to hang on the wall.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by lesroy on Nov 30, 2006 21:18:42 GMT 1, tell you what... Ill give you ยฃ600 for it and I'll worry about all the authentication bollox... actually, I won't bother as I'll simply frme it and never utter the question again! 
Seriously, I'll buy it if you wanna sell.
Email me @ thegurner@hotmail.com
tell you what... Ill give you ยฃ600 for it and I'll worry about all the authentication bollox... actually, I won't bother as I'll simply frme it and never utter the question again! Seriously, I'll buy it if you wanna sell. Email me @ thegurner@hotmail.com |
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by Zippy on Nov 30, 2006 21:58:11 GMT 1, hi, post a pic or e-mail it to me.
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hi, post a pic or e-mail it to me.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by moor on Dec 1, 2006 10:00:44 GMT 1, Thanks for the offer, I'll keep your details. I'd still like to see whether i can get it authenticated properly, so I'll keep trying for a while longer.
Thanks for the offer, I'll keep your details. I'd still like to see whether i can get it authenticated properly, so I'll keep trying for a while longer.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by Cocteau 101 on Sept 11, 2007 17:06:06 GMT 1, Queen Vic wanted. Please pm me if you have one for sale with a price.
Queen Vic wanted. Please pm me if you have one for sale with a price.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by neutral on Sept 11, 2007 20:59:44 GMT 1, signed or unsigned?
signed or unsigned?
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by Cocteau 101 on Sept 11, 2007 21:15:57 GMT 1, Pm'ed you
Pm'ed you
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by gbh on Sept 12, 2007 0:26:26 GMT 1, I'm also in the market if anyone has spares?
I'm also in the market if anyone has spares?
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by waywardwayne on Oct 3, 2007 19:31:46 GMT 1, I have a signed queen Victoria print with letter of provenance from POW I am thinking of selling on ebay and am up for sensible offers prior to listing
Regards WW
I have a signed queen Victoria print with letter of provenance from POW I am thinking of selling on ebay and am up for sensible offers prior to listing
Regards WW
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by Cocteau 101 on Oct 3, 2007 19:42:40 GMT 1, pm'd you
pm'd you
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by Run Pig Run on Oct 3, 2007 19:55:29 GMT 1, an email off dora.
an email off dora.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by stuey09 on Oct 3, 2007 20:31:14 GMT 1, Fantastic opportunity for someone Wayne. A signed Victoria doesn't come along too often and it is one of my favourite images. Wish I could afford this one.
Fantastic opportunity for someone Wayne. A signed Victoria doesn't come along too often and it is one of my favourite images. Wish I could afford this one.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by Opus Underground on Oct 18, 2007 12:54:19 GMT 1, Hey Guys if I want to buy a signed queen vic how much should I be looking to spend? ;D
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Hey Guys if I want to buy a signed queen vic how much should I be looking to spend? ;D
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by dave313perry on Oct 18, 2007 12:59:38 GMT 1, Hey Guys if I want to buy a signed queen vic how much should I be looking to spend? ;D A
5 - 5.5k according to Ebay 
Hey Guys if I want to buy a signed queen vic how much should I be looking to spend? ;D A 5 - 5.5k according to Ebay |
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by headphonesex on Oct 18, 2007 13:09:06 GMT 1, I would have said ยฃ10k. but based on yesterday maybe ยฃ8.5k?
Does that mean you've found one?
I would have said ยฃ10k. but based on yesterday maybe ยฃ8.5k?
Does that mean you've found one?
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by Opus Underground on Oct 18, 2007 13:47:30 GMT 1, Mayby.... I know someone who has one and is asking me what its worth to see if he wants to sell it
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Mayby.... I know someone who has one and is asking me what its worth to see if he wants to sell it
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by manchestermike on Oct 18, 2007 14:00:31 GMT 1, About ยฃ8k atm imo fwiw bbc itv
About ยฃ8k atm imo fwiw bbc itv
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by Opus Underground on Oct 18, 2007 14:03:16 GMT 1, See its thats fine line of offering him enough not to take the piss if he finds out its worth more but still getting a good deal.... Think I could get it for a grand but that could possibly make me the biggest t**t in the world ;D
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See its thats fine line of offering him enough not to take the piss if he finds out its worth more but still getting a good deal.... Think I could get it for a grand but that could possibly make me the biggest t**t in the world ;D
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by atkuefler on Oct 18, 2007 14:05:07 GMT 1, Well if you get it for a grand I will then buy it from you for 2k
Well if you get it for a grand I will then buy it from you for 2k |
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by dave313perry on Oct 18, 2007 14:28:07 GMT 1, sorry miss-read i was thinking monkey queen for some reason!?!?!?!?!? erm 8-9k
sorry miss-read i was thinking monkey queen for some reason!?!?!?!?!? erm 8-9k
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by Opus Underground on Oct 18, 2007 14:35:55 GMT 1, Well if you get it for a grand I will then buy it from you for 2k
Part of me wants to have no morals and just go for it... but I can't 
+ he's a big fucka and wil probs take my kneecaps for compensation!
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Well if you get it for a grand I will then buy it from you for 2k Part of me wants to have no morals and just go for it... but I can't + he's a big fucka and wil probs take my kneecaps for compensation! A |
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by atkuefler on Oct 18, 2007 14:39:08 GMT 1, Who the hell cares.... Its worth a knee replacement of two.
Who the hell cares.... Its worth a knee replacement of two.
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by jonpud on Oct 18, 2007 14:45:40 GMT 1, Extremely rare, only 50 signed copies (numbered) about, 3 months ago I would have thought 12k, now still VERY desireable but still a drop in price so 8-10k. I would love it and if I had 8k then I would be tempted, but thats the problem, I aint got 8k and many others in same boat at moment, just too much good art floating about now and no available wall space!!!! 
Extremely rare, only 50 signed copies (numbered) about, 3 months ago I would have thought 12k, now still VERY desireable but still a drop in price so 8-10k. I would love it and if I had 8k then I would be tempted, but thats the problem, I aint got 8k and many others in same boat at moment, just too much good art floating about now and no available wall space!!!! |
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by wezzley on Oct 18, 2007 14:51:58 GMT 1, there was that talk that far less than 50 ever got signed too.......
there was that talk that far less than 50 ever got signed too....... |
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by manchestermike on Oct 18, 2007 15:29:30 GMT 1, Extremely rare, only 50 signed copies (numbered) about, 3 months ago I would have thought 12k, now still VERY desireable but still a drop in price so 8-10k. I would love it and if I had 8k then I would be tempted, but thats the problem, I aint got 8k and many others in same boat at moment, just too much good art floating about now and no available wall space!!!!
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Get outta my boat
Extremely rare, only 50 signed copies (numbered) about, 3 months ago I would have thought 12k, now still VERY desireable but still a drop in price so 8-10k. I would love it and if I had 8k then I would be tempted, but thats the problem, I aint got 8k and many others in same boat at moment, just too much good art floating about now and no available wall space!!!! Oi Get outta my boat |
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Banksy Queen Victoria Print, by jonpud on Oct 18, 2007 15:57:32 GMT 1, Extremely rare, only 50 signed copies (numbered) about, 3 months ago I would have thought 12k, now still VERY desireable but still a drop in price so 8-10k. I would love it and if I had 8k then I would be tempted, but thats the problem, I aint got 8k and many others in same boat at moment, just too much good art floating about now and no available wall space!!!! Oi Get outta my boat
Can't swim Mike!
Extremely rare, only 50 signed copies (numbered) about, 3 months ago I would have thought 12k, now still VERY desireable but still a drop in price so 8-10k. I would love it and if I had 8k then I would be tempted, but thats the problem, I aint got 8k and many others in same boat at moment, just too much good art floating about now and no available wall space!!!! Oi Get outta my boat Can't swim Mike! |
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