yobaby
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by yobaby on Dec 10, 2016 18:54:59 GMT 1, Annoyed. I really wanted this print. Write Stolenspace an email. Maybe they have one left.
Already sent mate. I asked whether they had any old Banksy laying about while I was at it.
Annoyed. I really wanted this print. Write Stolenspace an email. Maybe they have one left. Already sent mate. I asked whether they had any old Banksy laying about while I was at it.
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jackstranger
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by jackstranger on Dec 10, 2016 19:10:43 GMT 1, Just received the email from StolenSpace confirming my order.
Just received the email from StolenSpace confirming my order.
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labbit74
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by labbit74 on Dec 10, 2016 19:11:29 GMT 1, 18:57 email from stolenspace with order receipt arrived. Order was finished online 17:13 (duration of process was 13 minutes). But now I'm happy.
18:57 email from stolenspace with order receipt arrived. Order was finished online 17:13 (duration of process was 13 minutes). But now I'm happy.
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davievegas
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by davievegas on Dec 10, 2016 19:26:18 GMT 1, Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol.
Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol.
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Pjam
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by Pjam on Dec 10, 2016 19:33:56 GMT 1, This image is epic, sure to be a classic D*face, nice that he called it ones of his best images to date.
This image is epic, sure to be a classic D*face, nice that he called it ones of his best images to date.
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sugar72
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by sugar72 on Dec 10, 2016 19:40:46 GMT 1, Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol.
Weird in what sense?
Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol. Weird in what sense?
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jettad
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by jettad on Dec 10, 2016 19:45:06 GMT 1, Not a big fan of the print, but congrats to all who got one.
Not a big fan of the print, but congrats to all who got one.
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davievegas
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by davievegas on Dec 10, 2016 19:47:09 GMT 1, Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol. Weird in what sense?
In a sense that this image is not an image that all his collectors would want. This seems to me like something only a small niched area of collectors would be interested in. Like a british collector. I do not see any appeal. This suppose to be a piece for the brexit situation?
Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol. Weird in what sense? In a sense that this image is not an image that all his collectors would want. This seems to me like something only a small niched area of collectors would be interested in. Like a british collector. I do not see any appeal. This suppose to be a piece for the brexit situation?
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RoboJ
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by RoboJ on Dec 10, 2016 19:50:46 GMT 1, Horray just received PayPal and store confirmation
Horray just received PayPal and store confirmation
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Cornish Crayon
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by Cornish Crayon on Dec 10, 2016 19:53:08 GMT 1, Just got back from a day out, what's appining?
Just got back from a day out, what's appining?
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sugar72
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by sugar72 on Dec 10, 2016 19:54:16 GMT 1, Not much
Not much
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jackstranger
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by jackstranger on Dec 10, 2016 20:01:50 GMT 1, In a sense that this image is not an image that all his collectors would want. This seems to me like something only a small niched area of collectors would be interested in. Like a british collector. I do not see any appeal. This suppose to be a piece for the brexit situation? The image is not new, it was already presented in the 'Wasted Youth' show in Malaga in 2015.
butterflyartnews.com/2015/08/16/malaga-dface-wasted-youth-cac-malaga/
A lot of D*Face's works and other artists's works have British flags and symbols and they are not only for the british people, there are collectors all around the world.
And it is fine that not all the collectors want it, but just the ones who do like it. I believe that one should collect what he/she likes and not all of the works of an artist if he/she does not like them, just for the sake that it is his/her favourite artist.
In a sense that this image is not an image that all his collectors would want. This seems to me like something only a small niched area of collectors would be interested in. Like a british collector. I do not see any appeal. This suppose to be a piece for the brexit situation? The image is not new, it was already presented in the 'Wasted Youth' show in Malaga in 2015. butterflyartnews.com/2015/08/16/malaga-dface-wasted-youth-cac-malaga/A lot of D*Face's works and other artists's works have British flags and symbols and they are not only for the british people, there are collectors all around the world. And it is fine that not all the collectors want it, but just the ones who do like it. I believe that one should collect what he/she likes and not all of the works of an artist if he/she does not like them, just for the sake that it is his/her favourite artist.
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Inknart
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by Inknart on Dec 10, 2016 20:02:31 GMT 1, In a sense that this image is not an image that all his collectors would want. This seems to me like something only a small niched area of collectors would be interested in. Like a british collector. I do not see any appeal. This suppose to be a piece for the brexit situation? US checking in. Can confirm, 0 interest. Shame, the new OG was a very attractive image.
In a sense that this image is not an image that all his collectors would want. This seems to me like something only a small niched area of collectors would be interested in. Like a british collector. I do not see any appeal. This suppose to be a piece for the brexit situation? US checking in. Can confirm, 0 interest. Shame, the new OG was a very attractive image.
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iamzero
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by iamzero on Dec 10, 2016 20:12:02 GMT 1, Odd that the plan to hold the image back before selling to deter eBay sellers didn't work? The theory sounded foolproof.
Odd that the plan to hold the image back before selling to deter eBay sellers didn't work? The theory sounded foolproof.
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kwatis
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by kwatis on Dec 10, 2016 20:13:11 GMT 1, In a sense that this image is not an image that all his collectors would want. This seems to me like something only a small niched area of collectors would be interested in. Like a british collector. I do not see any appeal. This suppose to be a piece for the brexit situation? The image is not new, it was already presented in the 'Wasted Youth' show in Malaga in 2015. butterflyartnews.com/2015/08/16/malaga-dface-wasted-youth-cac-malaga/A lot of D*Face's works and other artists's works have British flags and symbols and they are not only for the british people, there are collectors all around the world. And it is fine that not all the collectors want it, but just the ones who do like it. I believe that one should collect what he/she likes and not all of the works of an artist if he/she does not like them, just for the sake that it is his/her favourite artist. I think it was also in his LA Scars and Stripes exhibition which I think was before the Malaga show.
In a sense that this image is not an image that all his collectors would want. This seems to me like something only a small niched area of collectors would be interested in. Like a british collector. I do not see any appeal. This suppose to be a piece for the brexit situation? The image is not new, it was already presented in the 'Wasted Youth' show in Malaga in 2015. butterflyartnews.com/2015/08/16/malaga-dface-wasted-youth-cac-malaga/A lot of D*Face's works and other artists's works have British flags and symbols and they are not only for the british people, there are collectors all around the world. And it is fine that not all the collectors want it, but just the ones who do like it. I believe that one should collect what he/she likes and not all of the works of an artist if he/she does not like them, just for the sake that it is his/her favourite artist. I think it was also in his LA Scars and Stripes exhibition which I think was before the Malaga show.
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jackstranger
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by jackstranger on Dec 10, 2016 20:21:24 GMT 1, The image is not new, it was already presented in the 'Wasted Youth' show in Malaga in 2015. butterflyartnews.com/2015/08/16/malaga-dface-wasted-youth-cac-malaga/A lot of D*Face's works and other artists's works have British flags and symbols and they are not only for the british people, there are collectors all around the world. And it is fine that not all the collectors want it, but just the ones who do like it. I believe that one should collect what he/she likes and not all of the works of an artist if he/she does not like them, just for the sake that it is his/her favourite artist. I think it was also in his LA Scars and Stripes exhibition which I think was before the Malaga show. I think it was too. The point is it was not created because of the brexit.
The image is not new, it was already presented in the 'Wasted Youth' show in Malaga in 2015. butterflyartnews.com/2015/08/16/malaga-dface-wasted-youth-cac-malaga/A lot of D*Face's works and other artists's works have British flags and symbols and they are not only for the british people, there are collectors all around the world. And it is fine that not all the collectors want it, but just the ones who do like it. I believe that one should collect what he/she likes and not all of the works of an artist if he/she does not like them, just for the sake that it is his/her favourite artist. I think it was also in his LA Scars and Stripes exhibition which I think was before the Malaga show. I think it was too. The point is it was not created because of the brexit.
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Jaylove
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by Jaylove on Dec 10, 2016 20:25:38 GMT 1, Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol. And it sol out in a flash. Imagine if it was something that was really good.
Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol. And it sol out in a flash. Imagine if it was something that was really good.
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Jaylove
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by Jaylove on Dec 10, 2016 20:28:17 GMT 1, Odd that the plan to hold the image back before selling to deter eBay sellers didn't work? The theory sounded foolproof. The only way to stop flippers is to make the item easily accessible to everyone which means open edition or non-limited. I can understand why an artist would not go that route but to me that's really the only way.
Odd that the plan to hold the image back before selling to deter eBay sellers didn't work? The theory sounded foolproof. The only way to stop flippers is to make the item easily accessible to everyone which means open edition or non-limited. I can understand why an artist would not go that route but to me that's really the only way.
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annar50
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by annar50 on Dec 10, 2016 20:31:34 GMT 1, What a awful image, some terrible print releases this year
What a awful image, some terrible print releases this year
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snoozy
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by snoozy on Dec 10, 2016 20:37:26 GMT 1, I can see the USA point of view, if it was an american flag design I wouldn't want it on my wall, but as it's not...Love it!
I can see the USA point of view, if it was an american flag design I wouldn't want it on my wall, but as it's not...Love it!
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Jaylove
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by Jaylove on Dec 10, 2016 20:41:21 GMT 1, I can see the USA point of view, if it was an american flag design I wouldn't want it on my wall, but as it's not...Love it! Can't wait for the Canadian flag version. Call it "Maple Syrup'd". Make it super limited like 3 1/2 or something
I can see the USA point of view, if it was an american flag design I wouldn't want it on my wall, but as it's not...Love it! Can't wait for the Canadian flag version. Call it "Maple Syrup'd". Make it super limited like 3 1/2 or something
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sugar72
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by sugar72 on Dec 10, 2016 20:43:27 GMT 1, 1St flipper up on the bay!!
What an idiot. Stolen space should cancel.
1St flipper up on the bay!!
What an idiot. Stolen space should cancel.
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Cornish Crayon
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by Cornish Crayon on Dec 10, 2016 20:50:57 GMT 1,
Right on, laters
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siveone
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by siveone on Dec 10, 2016 20:52:24 GMT 1, I think it was also in his LA Scars and Stripes exhibition which I think was before the Malaga show. I think it was too. The point is it was not created because of the brexit. Thanx for the information and your opinions.
I think it was also in his LA Scars and Stripes exhibition which I think was before the Malaga show. I think it was too. The point is it was not created because of the brexit. Thanx for the information and your opinions.
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brazzy
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by brazzy on Dec 10, 2016 21:23:12 GMT 1, Odd that the plan to hold the image back before selling to deter eBay sellers didn't work? The theory sounded foolproof. The only way to stop flippers is to make the item easily accessible to everyone which means open edition or non-limited. I can understand why an artist would not go that route but to me that's really the only way. Or, price them closer to market value. If flippers can't make a bunch of money off the print, they'll stay away instead of snatching everything and artificially driving up the value.
Odd that the plan to hold the image back before selling to deter eBay sellers didn't work? The theory sounded foolproof. The only way to stop flippers is to make the item easily accessible to everyone which means open edition or non-limited. I can understand why an artist would not go that route but to me that's really the only way. Or, price them closer to market value. If flippers can't make a bunch of money off the print, they'll stay away instead of snatching everything and artificially driving up the value.
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davievegas
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by davievegas on Dec 10, 2016 21:58:36 GMT 1, Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol. And it sol out in a flash. Imagine if it was something that was really good. Artists seling out releases these days means nothing. Unpopular images sell out all the time and once they cannot be flipped, they are sold at cost 30 days later. Mediocre releases this year have really put a damper on any interest in future releases by these same artists. What is considered really good? Its all speculation. My point is that D face seems to just release images with no interest in the future value. If he cared, he would release better images. His past 3 releases have been duds after initial sell outs. Dont believe me? Look up the value trends of them. Either value stays the same or the prints are being sold for less then cost. Its a shame really. I am not knocking the image that people purchased because the flag is something they can relate too. I am just saying this specific release was very narrow minded. More of a cash grab in my view.
Very weird choice of an image. No wonder he didnt want to show anyone lol. And it sol out in a flash. Imagine if it was something that was really good. Artists seling out releases these days means nothing. Unpopular images sell out all the time and once they cannot be flipped, they are sold at cost 30 days later. Mediocre releases this year have really put a damper on any interest in future releases by these same artists. What is considered really good? Its all speculation. My point is that D face seems to just release images with no interest in the future value. If he cared, he would release better images. His past 3 releases have been duds after initial sell outs. Dont believe me? Look up the value trends of them. Either value stays the same or the prints are being sold for less then cost. Its a shame really. I am not knocking the image that people purchased because the flag is something they can relate too. I am just saying this specific release was very narrow minded. More of a cash grab in my view.
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snoozy
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by snoozy on Dec 10, 2016 22:41:16 GMT 1, And it sol out in a flash. Imagine if it was something that was really good. Artists seling out releases these days means nothing. Unpopular images sell out all the time and once they cannot be flipped, they are sold at cost 30 days later. Mediocre releases this year have really put a damper on any interest in future releases by these same artists. What is considered really good? Its all speculation. My point is that D face seems to just release images with no interest in the future value. If he cared, he would release better images. His past 3 releases have been duds after initial sell outs. Dont believe me? Look up the value trends of them. Either value stays the same or the prints are being sold for less then cost. Its a shame really. I am not knocking the image that people purchased because the flag is something they can relate too. I am just saying this specific release was very narrow minded. More of a cash grab in my view. Also, an just an idea or opinion, could be why the image wasn't released pre-sale, the hype and willing of people to buy the new Dface print had everyone clambering to get it once it came up, with little time for the other side of the brain to take in the image, decide if they liked it and make a rational choice based on what they want...given 12-24 hrs viewing i'm guessing a lot would have not been so f5 on this. I like it, but I'm pretty sure a few more got carried away on the 'must have' base..now you can see the Ebay flippers are reducing the price as we speak when reality bites!
And it sol out in a flash. Imagine if it was something that was really good. Artists seling out releases these days means nothing. Unpopular images sell out all the time and once they cannot be flipped, they are sold at cost 30 days later. Mediocre releases this year have really put a damper on any interest in future releases by these same artists. What is considered really good? Its all speculation. My point is that D face seems to just release images with no interest in the future value. If he cared, he would release better images. His past 3 releases have been duds after initial sell outs. Dont believe me? Look up the value trends of them. Either value stays the same or the prints are being sold for less then cost. Its a shame really. I am not knocking the image that people purchased because the flag is something they can relate too. I am just saying this specific release was very narrow minded. More of a cash grab in my view. Also, an just an idea or opinion, could be why the image wasn't released pre-sale, the hype and willing of people to buy the new Dface print had everyone clambering to get it once it came up, with little time for the other side of the brain to take in the image, decide if they liked it and make a rational choice based on what they want...given 12-24 hrs viewing i'm guessing a lot would have not been so f5 on this. I like it, but I'm pretty sure a few more got carried away on the 'must have' base..now you can see the Ebay flippers are reducing the price as we speak when reality bites!
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tranito
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by tranito on Dec 10, 2016 22:53:44 GMT 1, There's a strong socio-political commentary in this image and releasing it as a print gives the statement bigger wings. Weird to read so many people not understanding why he decided to release this image and make it a print, but again, not too many people seem to get the art and I see very little discussion about the art itself or the matters it raises, so why am I surprised?
Cash grab? Lol.
Anyway, kudos to D*Face. If he missed the mark at trying to raise discussions on the divided state of his Nation, which btw couldn't be more relevant to the US as well after the latest elections, he at least got me to read a little about the history of the Union Jack flag and I learned something new and had a few reflexions through art today. I didn't know what to think of it early on, but at the end of the day, I dig this.
There's a strong socio-political commentary in this image and releasing it as a print gives the statement bigger wings. Weird to read so many people not understanding why he decided to release this image and make it a print, but again, not too many people seem to get the art and I see very little discussion about the art itself or the matters it raises, so why am I surprised?
Cash grab? Lol.
Anyway, kudos to D*Face. If he missed the mark at trying to raise discussions on the divided state of his Nation, which btw couldn't be more relevant to the US as well after the latest elections, he at least got me to read a little about the history of the Union Jack flag and I learned something new and had a few reflexions through art today. I didn't know what to think of it early on, but at the end of the day, I dig this.
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Dr Plip
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by Dr Plip on Dec 10, 2016 23:16:04 GMT 1, Well it does appear it was at the Scars & Stripes show on Sep 27th 2014
And the referendum on Scottish independence was on Sep 18th 2014.
Given the title of the print (not knowing if the original has the same name), and taking into account the length of time to make the work and transport it, etc. It could have been made with the possibility of Scotland leaving the Union casting a shadow over the canvas.
I remember back in 2014, there was a lot of talk about us being stronger if we worked together and shared.
Of course that all changed in 2016 with the EU referendum.
It could also just be a flag.
Well it does appear it was at the Scars & Stripes show on Sep 27th 2014
And the referendum on Scottish independence was on Sep 18th 2014.
Given the title of the print (not knowing if the original has the same name), and taking into account the length of time to make the work and transport it, etc. It could have been made with the possibility of Scotland leaving the Union casting a shadow over the canvas.
I remember back in 2014, there was a lot of talk about us being stronger if we worked together and shared.
Of course that all changed in 2016 with the EU referendum.
It could also just be a flag.
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bigv
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DFace โข Union Jacked Print, by bigv on Dec 10, 2016 23:17:59 GMT 1, Odd that the plan to hold the image back before selling to deter eBay sellers didn't work? The theory sounded foolproof. The only way to stop flippers is to make the item easily accessible to everyone which means open edition or non-limited. ย I can understand why an artist would not go that route but to me that's really the only way.
Sandra tried to do that with her giclee a while back, I think 344 sold and they've been actively flipped and for sale on eBay since the release. Granted I don't know how much interest there really has been because I see hem for sale all the time, but as her popularity grows, the prices keep climbing even though I don't think they're being sold as fast as the flippers thought.
Odd that the plan to hold the image back before selling to deter eBay sellers didn't work? The theory sounded foolproof. The only way to stop flippers is to make the item easily accessible to everyone which means open edition or non-limited. ย I can understand why an artist would not go that route but to me that's really the only way. Sandra tried to do that with her giclee a while back, I think 344 sold and they've been actively flipped and for sale on eBay since the release. Granted I don't know how much interest there really has been because I see hem for sale all the time, but as her popularity grows, the prices keep climbing even though I don't think they're being sold as fast as the flippers thought.
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