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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 3, 2020 0:46:24 GMT 1, A.
Jocko Willink Weighs In on Defunding the Police | Joe Rogan - uploaded by JRE Clips on 16 June 2020
Jocko Willink is a decorated retired Navy SEAL officer, author of the book Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, and co-founder of Echelon Front, where he is a leadership instructor, speaker, and executive coach. His podcast, The Jocko Podcast, is also available for download via Apple Podcasts & Stitcher. @jocko Podcast
Full podcast here (Joe Rogan Experience #1492 - Jocko Willink).
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Elvis Presley - Blue Moon (1954) - uploaded by MusicPresleyElvis
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The Pogues - Summer in Siam (1990) - uploaded by ThePoguesOfficial
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Massive Attack, Young Fathers - Voodoo In My Blood (2016) - uploaded by massiveattack
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A.Jocko Willink Weighs In on Defunding the Police | Joe Rogan- uploaded by JRE Clips on 16 June 2020Jocko Willink is a decorated retired Navy SEAL officer, author of the book Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, and co-founder of Echelon Front, where he is a leadership instructor, speaker, and executive coach. His podcast, The Jocko Podcast, is also available for download via Apple Podcasts & Stitcher. @jocko PodcastFull podcast here (Joe Rogan Experience #1492 - Jocko Willink). B.Elvis Presley - Blue Moon (1954)- uploaded by MusicPresleyElvisC.The Pogues - Summer in Siam (1990)- uploaded by ThePoguesOfficialD.Massive Attack, Young Fathers - Voodoo In My Blood (2016)- uploaded by massiveattack________________ At around 22:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 4, 2020 19:59:59 GMT 1, Older members may have an advantage with this particular competition. A.We don't fight at weddings.Peaches - Fuck The Pain Away (2000)- uploaded by Rodrigo Mendoza________________ B.George Michael - Freedom! '90 (1990)- uploaded by georgemichaelDuran Duran - Girl Panic! (2011)- uploaded by Duran DuranTaylor Swift (featuring Kendrick Lamar) - Bad Blood (2015)- uploaded by Taylor Swift________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 4 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away (Part A above) ---> 1? ---> 2? ---> 3? ---> Dalai Lama / 4?
Fill in the gaps. Specify the person or thing represented by each of the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4.
These are straightforward, logical degrees of separation between Fuck the Pain Away by Peaches and His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama.
For this puzzle, the Dalai Lama could just as easily have been replaced by the common thread connecting the three videos in Part B above (that common thread is represented by the number 4).
If an eligible member doesn't respond correctly beforehand, either the answers or additional clues will be posted in 24 hours — at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 5 August.
Older members may have an advantage with this particular competition. A.We don't fight at weddings.Peaches - Fuck The Pain Away (2000)- uploaded by Rodrigo Mendoza________________ B.George Michael - Freedom! '90 (1990)- uploaded by georgemichaelDuran Duran - Girl Panic! (2011)- uploaded by Duran DuranTaylor Swift (featuring Kendrick Lamar) - Bad Blood (2015)- uploaded by Taylor Swift________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 4 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away (Part A above) ---> 1? ---> 2? ---> 3? ---> Dalai Lama / 4?
Fill in the gaps. Specify the person or thing represented by each of the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4. These are straightforward, logical degrees of separation between Fuck the Pain Away by Peaches and His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama. For this puzzle, the Dalai Lama could just as easily have been replaced by the common thread connecting the three videos in Part B above (that common thread is represented by the number 4). If an eligible member doesn't respond correctly beforehand, either the answers or additional clues will be posted in 24 hours — at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 5 August.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 5, 2020 20:00:00 GMT 1, Older members may have an advantage with this particular competition. A.We don't fight at weddings.Peaches - Fuck The Pain Away (2000)- uploaded by Rodrigo Mendoza________________ B.George Michael - Freedom! '90 (1990)- uploaded by georgemichaelDuran Duran - Girl Panic! (2011)- uploaded by Duran DuranTaylor Swift (featuring Kendrick Lamar) - Bad Blood (2015)- uploaded by Taylor Swift________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 4 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away (Part A above) ---> 1? ---> 2? ---> 3? ---> Dalai Lama / 4?Fill in the gaps. Specify the person or thing represented by each of the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4. These are straightforward, logical degrees of separation between Fuck the Pain Away by Peaches and His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama. For this puzzle, the Dalai Lama could just as easily have been replaced by the common thread connecting the three videos in Part B above (that common thread is represented by the number 4). If an eligible member doesn't respond correctly beforehand, either the answers or additional clues will be posted in 24 hours — at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 5 August.
ADDITIONAL CLUES
A rather painful listen, but the video below could have been included in Part B above.
The answer to number 4 should be obvious now. And if number 4 and the Dalai Lama are interchangeable, the answer to number 3 may also be clear to some members.
Bon Jovi - Please Come Home for Christmas (1994) - uploaded by skappyj
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Older members may have an advantage with this particular competition. A.We don't fight at weddings.Peaches - Fuck The Pain Away (2000)- uploaded by Rodrigo Mendoza________________ B.George Michael - Freedom! '90 (1990)- uploaded by georgemichaelDuran Duran - Girl Panic! (2011)- uploaded by Duran DuranTaylor Swift (featuring Kendrick Lamar) - Bad Blood (2015)- uploaded by Taylor Swift________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 4 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away (Part A above) ---> 1? ---> 2? ---> 3? ---> Dalai Lama / 4?Fill in the gaps. Specify the person or thing represented by each of the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4. These are straightforward, logical degrees of separation between Fuck the Pain Away by Peaches and His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama. For this puzzle, the Dalai Lama could just as easily have been replaced by the common thread connecting the three videos in Part B above (that common thread is represented by the number 4). If an eligible member doesn't respond correctly beforehand, either the answers or additional clues will be posted in 24 hours — at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 5 August. ADDITIONAL CLUESA rather painful listen, but the video below could have been included in Part B above. The answer to number 4 should be obvious now. And if number 4 and the Dalai Lama are interchangeable, the answer to number 3 may also be clear to some members. Bon Jovi - Please Come Home for Christmas (1994)- uploaded by skappyj________________ In case nobody responds correctly beforehand, the answers will be posted in 22 hours — at around 18:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by kjg on Aug 5, 2020 20:17:18 GMT 1, This one is not easy :-)
This one is not easy :-)
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THE MET LOTTERY, by viz on Aug 5, 2020 20:25:08 GMT 1, Let's try
Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away ---> Blondie ---> call me (in the ost of american gigolo) ---> Richard Gere ---> Dalai Lama / Cindy Crawford
Let's try Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away ---> Blondie ---> call me (in the ost of american gigolo) ---> Richard Gere ---> Dalai Lama / Cindy Crawford
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 5, 2020 20:27:30 GMT 1, Let's try Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away ---> Blondie ---> call me (in the ost of american gigolo) ---> Richard Gere ---> Dalai Lama / Cindy Crawford Very nicely done, viz. Congratulations.
Let's try Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away ---> Blondie ---> call me (in the ost of american gigolo) ---> Richard Gere ---> Dalai Lama / Cindy Crawford Very nicely done, viz. Congratulations.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by viz on Aug 5, 2020 20:32:30 GMT 1, Let's try Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away ---> Blondie ---> call me (in the ost of american gigolo) ---> Richard Gere ---> Dalai Lama / Cindy Crawford Very nicely done, viz. Congratulations.
Wow! Thanks!
Let's try Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away ---> Blondie ---> call me (in the ost of american gigolo) ---> Richard Gere ---> Dalai Lama / Cindy Crawford Very nicely done, viz. Congratulations. Wow! Thanks!
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 6, 2020 20:00:00 GMT 1, Joe Rogan Experience #1221 - Jonathan Haidt (2:05:10)- uploaded by PowerfulJRE on 7 January 2019Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist and Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business. He's also the author of books such as "The Happiness Hypothesis" and "The Coddling of the American Mind".NB: Besides placing great value on my remaining time on earth, I make a conscious effort to not waste other people's time. Accordingly, I only post long videos that I've both watched more than once and would recommend. In case you're hesitating about investing two hours of your life listening to Rogan and Haidt, here's a 21-minute excerpt to give you a flavour: Joe Rogan & Jonathan Haidt - Social Media is Giving Kids Anxiety (21:09)- uploaded by JRE Clips on 7 January 2019________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
QUESTIONS
1. [00:00—30:00] After Jonathan Haidt first references his latest book's subtitle, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, he cites a specific example that, on balance, he believes falls into the good-intentions-bad-idea category.
What is that example?
2. [1:00:00—1:30:00] Haidt refers to the most important lesson he and his co-author Greg Lukianoff hope will come from their book. He starts out by saying, "If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly..."
Complete his sentence.
3. [1:30:00—2:05:10] Give (a) the full name of the author cited by Haidt as having written one of the most important books in the Western tradition, (b) the title of the book he's referring to, and (c) the subject matter of Chapter 2 of that book.
[Will be back online at around 21:00 to check any answers.]
Joe Rogan Experience #1221 - Jonathan Haidt (2:05:10)- uploaded by PowerfulJRE on 7 January 2019Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist and Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business. He's also the author of books such as "The Happiness Hypothesis" and "The Coddling of the American Mind".NB: Besides placing great value on my remaining time on earth, I make a conscious effort to not waste other people's time. Accordingly, I only post long videos that I've both watched more than once and would recommend. In case you're hesitating about investing two hours of your life listening to Rogan and Haidt, here's a 21-minute excerpt to give you a flavour: Joe Rogan & Jonathan Haidt - Social Media is Giving Kids Anxiety (21:09)- uploaded by JRE Clips on 7 January 2019________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. QUESTIONS1. [00:00—30:00] After Jonathan Haidt first references his latest book's subtitle, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, he cites a specific example that, on balance, he believes falls into the good-intentions-bad-idea category. What is that example? 2. [1:00:00—1:30:00] Haidt refers to the most important lesson he and his co-author Greg Lukianoff hope will come from their book. He starts out by saying, "If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly..." Complete his sentence. 3. [1:30:00—2:05:10] Give (a) the full name of the author cited by Haidt as having written one of the most important books in the Western tradition, (b) the title of the book he's referring to, and (c) the subject matter of Chapter 2 of that book. [Will be back online at around 21:00 to check any answers.]
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 6, 2020 21:59:58 GMT 1, A.Jocko Willink Weighs In on Defunding the Police | Joe Rogan- uploaded by JRE Clips on 16 June 2020Jocko Willink is a decorated retired Navy SEAL officer, author of the book Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, and co-founder of Echelon Front, where he is a leadership instructor, speaker, and executive coach. His podcast, The Jocko Podcast, is also available for download via Apple Podcasts & Stitcher. @jocko PodcastFull podcast here (Joe Rogan Experience #1492 - Jocko Willink). B.Elvis Presley - Blue Moon (1954)- uploaded by MusicPresleyElvisC.The Pogues - Summer in Siam (1990)- uploaded by ThePoguesOfficialD.Massive Attack, Young Fathers - Voodoo In My Blood (2016)- uploaded by massiveattack________________ At around 22:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
Hope those who watched it found the Jocko Willink clip in Part A to be of interest.
The question for this competition relates to Parts B, C and D:
There is one individual who is tied to all three parts. Name that person, and briefly explain their connection to each of B, C and D.
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In case nobody responds correctly beforehand, answers will be posted in 24 hours — at around 22:00 UK time on Friday 7 August.
[Separately, forgot to mention that answers to the previous competition (on the Jonathan Haidt chat with Joe Rogan) will be posted at around 20:00 UK time on Friday 7 August, unless an eligible member responds correctly beforehand.]
A.Jocko Willink Weighs In on Defunding the Police | Joe Rogan- uploaded by JRE Clips on 16 June 2020Jocko Willink is a decorated retired Navy SEAL officer, author of the book Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win, and co-founder of Echelon Front, where he is a leadership instructor, speaker, and executive coach. His podcast, The Jocko Podcast, is also available for download via Apple Podcasts & Stitcher. @jocko PodcastFull podcast here (Joe Rogan Experience #1492 - Jocko Willink). B.Elvis Presley - Blue Moon (1954)- uploaded by MusicPresleyElvisC.The Pogues - Summer in Siam (1990)- uploaded by ThePoguesOfficialD.Massive Attack, Young Fathers - Voodoo In My Blood (2016)- uploaded by massiveattack________________ At around 22:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Hope those who watched it found the Jocko Willink clip in Part A to be of interest. The question for this competition relates to Parts B, C and D: There is one individual who is tied to all three parts. Name that person, and briefly explain their connection to each of B, C and D. ________________ In case nobody responds correctly beforehand, answers will be posted in 24 hours — at around 22:00 UK time on Friday 7 August. [Separately, forgot to mention that answers to the previous competition (on the Jonathan Haidt chat with Joe Rogan) will be posted at around 20:00 UK time on Friday 7 August, unless an eligible member responds correctly beforehand.]
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 7, 2020 16:00:13 GMT 1, Very nicely done, viz. Congratulations. Wow! Thanks!
You're most welcome.
As a follow-up, here are the reference answers I originally prepared:
REFERENCE ANSWERS
One purpose of this competition was to emphasise that, like most things, puzzles (i.e. problems) can be approached, viewed and assessed in different ways.
[A separate objective (in part an indulgence for personal amusement) was to demonstrate how simple it was to jump from a line like "Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me" to His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, the spiritual leader of the Tibetan people.
The idea, which relied on juvenile crudity, was to highlight the potential danger of giving any weight to the notion of guilt by association.]
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Let's look at the puzzle again:
Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away ---> 1? ---> 2? ---> 3? ---> Dalai Lama / 4?
Starting from left to right, by immediately trying to work out what number 1 represented, was near impossible. But nobody is forced to follow the prompted path (in this case, the direction of the arrows), just like nobody is forced to start their shopping at the fruit-and-vegetables section of the grocery store.
The only real way to solve the puzzle was to first identify number 4 — the model Cindy Crawford.
It was already confirmed that Crawford could just as easily have replaced the Dalai Lama. In other words, both were directly connected to the person or thing represented by number 3. And the common link between them is Richard Gere.
The actor was married to Crawford for about four years in the 1990s. [Older members (especially UK-based) may recall that, in response to ongoing press rumours about the state of their relationship, Gere and Crawford took out a full-page advertisement in The Times in May 1994* — to very publicly declare the strength of their marriage. This was before announcing their divorce the following year.] Gere is also a Tibetan Buddhist and prominent supporter of the Dalai Lama.
From there, the way forward was by returning to Peaches. Lyrics to her song start off as follows:
Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me Calling me, all the time like Blondie Check out my Chrissie behind, it's fine all of the time Like sex on the beaches What else is in the teaches of peaches? Huh? What?
That second line references Call Me by Blondie — number 1 in the puzzle, as well as being Billboard's No. 1 single in the year-end chart of 1980.
Blondie - Call Me (1980) Writers: Deborah Harry, Giorgio Moroder - uploaded by BlondieMusicOfficial
Call Me was the main song for the soundtrack to the 1980 film by Paul Schrader, American Gigolo — number 2 in the puzzle.
That movie starred the magnificent Lauren Hutton. And Richard Gere.
Puzzle complete.
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As a side note regarding the Peaches video, one of the top YouTube comments (by the user Blixx) prompted a chuckle:
This video made my whole house smell like cigarettes and tuna
Also worth mentioning is part of the relevant Wikipedia entry*:
Notably, there is no official music video for the song, and Peaches called upon fans to create videos and other performance art pieces which utilize it. One parody shows "Fuck the Pain Away" being performed by Miss Piggy. Another version, directed by Erik Huber, takes footage from The Andy Griffith Show and inserts a dancing woman.
Peaches Fuck The Pain Away as sung by Miss Piggy - uploaded by PeachesTV
Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away - uploaded by Erik Huber
Very nicely done, viz. Congratulations. Wow! Thanks! You're most welcome. As a follow-up, here are the reference answers I originally prepared: REFERENCE ANSWERSOne purpose of this competition was to emphasise that, like most things, puzzles (i.e. problems) can be approached, viewed and assessed in different ways. [A separate objective (in part an indulgence for personal amusement) was to demonstrate how simple it was to jump from a line like "Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me" to His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, the spiritual leader of the Tibetan people.
The idea, which relied on juvenile crudity, was to highlight the potential danger of giving any weight to the notion of guilt by association.]__________ Let's look at the puzzle again: Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away ---> 1? ---> 2? ---> 3? ---> Dalai Lama / 4?Starting from left to right, by immediately trying to work out what number 1 represented, was near impossible. But nobody is forced to follow the prompted path (in this case, the direction of the arrows), just like nobody is forced to start their shopping at the fruit-and-vegetables section of the grocery store. The only real way to solve the puzzle was to first identify number 4 — the model Cindy Crawford. It was already confirmed that Crawford could just as easily have replaced the Dalai Lama. In other words, both were directly connected to the person or thing represented by number 3. And the common link between them is Richard Gere. The actor was married to Crawford for about four years in the 1990s. [Older members (especially UK-based) may recall that, in response to ongoing press rumours about the state of their relationship, Gere and Crawford took out a full-page advertisement in The Times in May 1994* — to very publicly declare the strength of their marriage. This was before announcing their divorce the following year.] Gere is also a Tibetan Buddhist and prominent supporter of the Dalai Lama. From there, the way forward was by returning to Peaches. Lyrics to her song start off as follows: Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me Calling me, all the time like Blondie Check out my Chrissie behind, it's fine all of the time Like sex on the beaches What else is in the teaches of peaches? Huh? What?That second line references Call Me by Blondie — number 1 in the puzzle, as well as being Billboard's No. 1 single in the year-end chart of 1980. Blondie - Call Me (1980)Writers: Deborah Harry, Giorgio Moroder - uploaded by BlondieMusicOfficialCall Me was the main song for the soundtrack to the 1980 film by Paul Schrader, American Gigolo — number 2 in the puzzle. That movie starred the magnificent Lauren Hutton. And Richard Gere. Puzzle complete.__________ As a side note regarding the Peaches video, one of the top You Tube comments (by the user Blixx) prompted a chuckle: This video made my whole house smell like cigarettes and tuna Also worth mentioning is part of the relevant Wikipedia entry*: Notably, there is no official music video for the song, and Peaches called upon fans to create videos and other performance art pieces which utilize it. One parody shows "Fuck the Pain Away" being performed by Miss Piggy. Another version, directed by Erik Huber, takes footage from The Andy Griffith Show and inserts a dancing woman.Peaches Fuck The Pain Away as sung by Miss Piggy- uploaded by PeachesTVPeaches - Fuck the Pain Away- uploaded by Erik Huber
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THE MET LOTTERY, by kjg on Aug 7, 2020 16:40:09 GMT 1, I believe that the person who is tied to those three video's is Joe Strummer.
He was a big fan of Elvis (The Clash's London Calling album cover is supposed to be a nod to Elvis), he used to be the lead singer of The Pogues during Shane MacGowan's abstinence form 1991 until 2001 and the video of Voodoo in the Blood was shot in the Joe Strummer underpass at Edgware Road station in London.
I believe that the person who is tied to those three video's is Joe Strummer.
He was a big fan of Elvis (The Clash's London Calling album cover is supposed to be a nod to Elvis), he used to be the lead singer of The Pogues during Shane MacGowan's abstinence form 1991 until 2001 and the video of Voodoo in the Blood was shot in the Joe Strummer underpass at Edgware Road station in London.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 7, 2020 18:59:59 GMT 1, I believe that the person who is tied to those three video's is Joe Strummer.
He was a big fan of Elvis (The Clash's London Calling album cover is supposed to be a nod to Elvis), he used to be the lead singer of The Pogues during Shane MacGowan's abstinence form 1991 until 2001 and the video of Voodoo in the Blood was shot in the Joe Strummer underpass at Edgware Road station in London.
Thanks, kjg.
Not enough to win yet, but strong enough responses to keep this competition open to you exclusively, for an additional 24 hours — until 19:00 UK time on Saturday, 8 August 2020.
You've exceptionally earned a second bite at the cherry.
BREAKDOWN
Joe Strummer is correct.
The connection you made to Part D is correct.
The connection you made to Part C is good enough, though I also had an additional point in mind. It should be mentioned as well that the years cited (1991–2001) are inaccurate. [Separately, if we're actually talking about "abstinence", Shane MacGowan only entertained the very concept of abstinence many years later.]
Although the connections you made to Part B are correct, they're not quite strong enough, not direct enough.
I'll throw in two more clues, both of which could have been added to Part B:
Direct clue
The answer I'm looking for relates specifically to Elvis Presley's version of Blue Moon.
Indirect clue
Scene from I Hired a Contract Killer (1990) - uploaded by matyi00
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kjg — Provided you find the direct connection between Strummer and Part B, here's a bonus question to secure an undisclosed extra prize. Same deadline to respond as above. The question relates to Part D:
If I were to argue that Pike is to Adjani what Banksy is to Blek le Rat, what are three separate things I might be referring to?
I believe that the person who is tied to those three video's is Joe Strummer.
He was a big fan of Elvis (The Clash's London Calling album cover is supposed to be a nod to Elvis), he used to be the lead singer of The Pogues during Shane MacGowan's abstinence form 1991 until 2001 and the video of Voodoo in the Blood was shot in the Joe Strummer underpass at Edgware Road station in London.
Thanks, kjg. Not enough to win yet, but strong enough responses to keep this competition open to you exclusively, for an additional 24 hours — until 19:00 UK time on Saturday, 8 August 2020. You've exceptionally earned a second bite at the cherry. BREAKDOWNJoe Strummer is correct. The connection you made to Part D is correct. The connection you made to Part C is good enough, though I also had an additional point in mind. It should be mentioned as well that the years cited (1991–2001) are inaccurate. [Separately, if we're actually talking about "abstinence", Shane MacGowan only entertained the very concept of abstinence many years later.]Although the connections you made to Part B are correct, they're not quite strong enough, not direct enough. I'll throw in two more clues, both of which could have been added to Part B: Direct clue The answer I'm looking for relates specifically to Elvis Presley's version of Blue Moon. Indirect clueScene from I Hired a Contract Killer (1990)- uploaded by matyi00__________ kjg — Provided you find the direct connection between Strummer and Part B, here's a bonus question to secure an undisclosed extra prize. Same deadline to respond as above. The question relates to Part D: If I were to argue that Pike is to Adjani what Ban ksy is to Bl ek le Rat, what are three separate things I might be referring to?
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THE MET LOTTERY, by kjg on Aug 7, 2020 19:09:44 GMT 1, Thanks a lot for the second chance.
I will be back :-)
Thanks a lot for the second chance.
I will be back :-)
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 7, 2020 20:00:00 GMT 1, Joe Rogan Experience #1221 - Jonathan Haidt (2:05:10)- uploaded by PowerfulJRE on 7 January 2019Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist and Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business. He's also the author of books such as "The Happiness Hypothesis" and "The Coddling of the American Mind".NB: Besides placing great value on my remaining time on earth, I make a conscious effort to not waste other people's time. Accordingly, I only post long videos that I've both watched more than once and would recommend. In case you're hesitating about investing two hours of your life listening to Rogan and Haidt, here's a 21-minute excerpt to give you a flavour: Joe Rogan & Jonathan Haidt - Social Media is Giving Kids Anxiety (21:09)- uploaded by JRE Clips on 7 January 2019________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. QUESTIONS1. [00:00—30:00] After Jonathan Haidt first references his latest book's subtitle, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, he cites a specific example that, on balance, he believes falls into the good-intentions-bad-idea category. What is that example? 2. [1:00:00—1:30:00] Haidt refers to the most important lesson he and his co-author Greg Lukianoff hope will come from their book. He starts out by saying, "If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly..." Complete his sentence. 3. [1:30:00—2:05:10] Give (a) the full name of the author cited by Haidt as having written one of the most important books in the Western tradition, (b) the title of the book he's referring to, and (c) the subject matter of Chapter 2 of that book. [...]
A bit disappointing that no one entered this rather straightforward competition.
To my mind, the podcast is both interesting and informative, despite Rogan not always being at his best (more often than once interrupting Haidt mid flow, going off on odd tangents, and focusing on the curiously trivial).
Since the primary goal was always to encourage other members to have a listen, let's extend the competition period by another 48 hours — until 20:00 UK time on Sunday 9 August.
On this occasion, participation eligibility will also be broadened to members with a minimum of 61 (rather than 91) existing (undeleted) posts.
Joe Rogan Experience #1221 - Jonathan Haidt (2:05:10)- uploaded by PowerfulJRE on 7 January 2019Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist and Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business. He's also the author of books such as "The Happiness Hypothesis" and "The Coddling of the American Mind".NB: Besides placing great value on my remaining time on earth, I make a conscious effort to not waste other people's time. Accordingly, I only post long videos that I've both watched more than once and would recommend. In case you're hesitating about investing two hours of your life listening to Rogan and Haidt, here's a 21-minute excerpt to give you a flavour: Joe Rogan & Jonathan Haidt - Social Media is Giving Kids Anxiety (21:09)- uploaded by JRE Clips on 7 January 2019________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. QUESTIONS1. [00:00—30:00] After Jonathan Haidt first references his latest book's subtitle, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, he cites a specific example that, on balance, he believes falls into the good-intentions-bad-idea category. What is that example? 2. [1:00:00—1:30:00] Haidt refers to the most important lesson he and his co-author Greg Lukianoff hope will come from their book. He starts out by saying, "If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly..." Complete his sentence. 3. [1:30:00—2:05:10] Give (a) the full name of the author cited by Haidt as having written one of the most important books in the Western tradition, (b) the title of the book he's referring to, and (c) the subject matter of Chapter 2 of that book. [...]A bit disappointing that no one entered this rather straightforward competition. To my mind, the podcast is both interesting and informative, despite Rogan not always being at his best (more often than once interrupting Haidt mid flow, going off on odd tangents, and focusing on the curiously trivial). Since the primary goal was always to encourage other members to have a listen, let's extend the competition period by another 48 hours — until 20:00 UK time on Sunday 9 August. On this occasion, participation eligibility will also be broadened to members with a minimum of 61 (rather than 91) existing (undeleted) posts.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by kjg on Aug 8, 2020 18:20:49 GMT 1, I think that the link between Joe Strummer and Elvis Presley's song Blue Moon is the movie Mystery Train.
This movie, by one of my favorite directors Jim Jarmusch*, consists of three stories. In each story you can hear the song Blue Moon by Elvis playing on the radio**. In the third and last story of the movie, which is called 'Lost in Space', Joe Strummer stars as Johnny but he is also known as Elvis.
And of course is Mystery Train not only the name of the movie but also the name of a song by Elvis.
*With Coffee and Cigarettes being my favorite Jarmusch movie
**Funny fact: the radio presentor's voice is that of Tom Waits
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your question about Pike and Adjani is a bit difficult. But I will give it a try.
I believe you might be referring to the facts that:
- Pike and Adjani are both moviestars and Blek le Rat and Banksy are both street artists. - Adjani and Blek started in the seventies, Pike and Banksy in the nineties of the last century. - Adjani and Blek le Rat are from France and Pike and Banksy are from the UK. - Both Pike and Adjani played in a music video, with the clip starring Pike was inspired by the movie Possesion starring Adjani and Blek le Rat's works inspired Banksy.
I think that the link between Joe Strummer and Elvis Presley's song Blue Moon is the movie Mystery Train.
This movie, by one of my favorite directors Jim Jarmusch*, consists of three stories. In each story you can hear the song Blue Moon by Elvis playing on the radio**. In the third and last story of the movie, which is called 'Lost in Space', Joe Strummer stars as Johnny but he is also known as Elvis.
And of course is Mystery Train not only the name of the movie but also the name of a song by Elvis.
*With Coffee and Cigarettes being my favorite Jarmusch movie
**Funny fact: the radio presentor's voice is that of Tom Waits
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your question about Pike and Adjani is a bit difficult. But I will give it a try.
I believe you might be referring to the facts that:
- Pike and Adjani are both moviestars and Blek le Rat and Banksy are both street artists. - Adjani and Blek started in the seventies, Pike and Banksy in the nineties of the last century. - Adjani and Blek le Rat are from France and Pike and Banksy are from the UK. - Both Pike and Adjani played in a music video, with the clip starring Pike was inspired by the movie Possesion starring Adjani and Blek le Rat's works inspired Banksy.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by Terry Fuckwitt on Aug 8, 2020 18:31:13 GMT 1, I think that the link between Joe Strummer and Elvis Presley's song Blue Moon is the movie Mystery Train. This movie, by one of my favorite directors Jim Jarmusch*, consists of three stories. In each story you can hear the song Blue Moon by Elvis playing on the radio**. In the third and last story of the movie, which is called 'Lost in Space', Joe Strummer stars as Johnny but he is also known as Elvis. And of course is Mystery Train not only the name of the movie but also the name of a song by Elvis. *With Coffee and Cigarettes being my favorite Jarmusch movie **Funny fact: the radio presentor's voice is that of Tom Waits --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your question about Pike and Adjani is a bit difficult. But I will give it a try. I believe you might be referring to the facts that: - Pike and Adjani are both moviestars and Blek le Rat and Banksy are both street artists. - Adjani and Blek started in the seventies, Pike and Banksy in the nineties of the last century. - Adjani and Blek le Rat are from France and Pike and Banksy are from the UK. - Both Pike and Adjani played in a music video, with the clip starring Pike was inspired by the movie Possesion starring Adjani and Blek le Rat's works inspired Banksy.
10/10 for effort I'll send you a box of cookies if you're wrong😉
I think that the link between Joe Strummer and Elvis Presley's song Blue Moon is the movie Mystery Train. This movie, by one of my favorite directors Jim Jarmusch*, consists of three stories. In each story you can hear the song Blue Moon by Elvis playing on the radio**. In the third and last story of the movie, which is called 'Lost in Space', Joe Strummer stars as Johnny but he is also known as Elvis. And of course is Mystery Train not only the name of the movie but also the name of a song by Elvis. *With Coffee and Cigarettes being my favorite Jarmusch movie **Funny fact: the radio presentor's voice is that of Tom Waits --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your question about Pike and Adjani is a bit difficult. But I will give it a try. I believe you might be referring to the facts that: - Pike and Adjani are both moviestars and Blek le Rat and Banksy are both street artists. - Adjani and Blek started in the seventies, Pike and Banksy in the nineties of the last century. - Adjani and Blek le Rat are from France and Pike and Banksy are from the UK. - Both Pike and Adjani played in a music video, with the clip starring Pike was inspired by the movie Possesion starring Adjani and Blek le Rat's works inspired Banksy. 10/10 for effort I'll send you a box of cookies if you're wrong😉
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 8, 2020 19:45:28 GMT 1, I think that the link between Joe Strummer and Elvis Presley's song Blue Moon is the movie Mystery Train. This movie, by one of my favorite directors Jim Jarmusch*, consists of three stories. In each story you can hear the song Blue Moon by Elvis playing on the radio**. In the third and last story of the movie, which is called 'Lost in Space', Joe Strummer stars as Johnny but he is also known as Elvis. And of course is Mystery Train not only the name of the movie but also the name of a song by Elvis. *With Coffee and Cigarettes being my favorite Jarmusch movie **Funny fact: the radio presentor's voice is that of Tom Waits --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your question about Pike and Adjani is a bit difficult. But I will give it a try. I believe you might be referring to the facts that: - Pike and Adjani are both moviestars and Blek le Rat and Banksy are both street artists. - Adjani and Blek started in the seventies, Pike and Banksy in the nineties of the last century. - Adjani and Blek le Rat are from France and Pike and Banksy are from the UK. - Both Pike and Adjani played in a music video, with the clip starring Pike was inspired by the movie Possesion starring Adjani and Blek le Rat's works inspired Banksy.
You win, kjg, both the competition and bonus question prize. Congratulations.
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The individual who is tied in some way to Parts B, C and D is Joe Strummer.
Part B: Elvis Presley - Blue Moon (1954)
In Jim Jarmusch's 1989 film Mystery Train, the three distinct stories that make up the narrative are linked by a portion of Presley's version of "Blue Moon" (as heard on a radio broadcast) and a subsequent offscreen gunshot, which are heard once during each story, revealing that the three stories occur simultaneously in real time.*
Joe Strummer is one of the actors in Mystery Train — playing the character Johnny, who's also referred to as "Elvis".
The video provided for Blue Moon is merely a still of the cover of the album, Elvis Presley — the design of which was homaged by The Clash with 1979's London Calling. By way of side note, the latter album also features a photo of a pissed-off Paul Simonon, taken by Pennie Smith*.
Separately, the indirect clue provided yesterday was a clip from the 1990 film, I Hired a Contract Killer. It was directed by Aki Kaurismäki, who is often referred to as the Finnish Jim Jarmusch. Joe Strummer makes an appearance in that film as well:
Joe Strummer - Burning Lights (I Hired A Contract Killer - 1990) - uploaded by zilogbass
Part C: The Pogues - Summer in Siam (1990)
The single Summer in Siam by The Pogues is from their 1990 album, Hell's Ditch — which was produced by Joe Strummer.
A separate minor connection is the video having been directed by Don Letts, who first came to prominence as the videographer for The Clash.
Strummer also played live with The Pogues, as a temporary replacement for injured guitarist Philip Chevron*, and later as singer for part of 1991 after Shane MacGowan was fired.
Part D: Massive Attack, Young Fathers - Voodoo In My Blood (2016)
This superb video directed by Ringan Ledwidge was filmed in the (now closed) Joe Strummer Subway in West London — a location where Strummer used to busk before becoming a founding member of The Clash.
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Voodoo In My Blood is a clear homage to scenes in Possession (1981) by Andrzej Zulawski, and Phantasm (1979) by Don Coscarelli.*
That first film stars the French actress Isabelle Adjani.
The analogy I'd make between Rosamund Pike vs Isabelle Adjani on the one hand, and Banksy vs Blek le Rat on the other, relates to:
(i) nationality;
(ii) dates / chronology; and
(iii) regarding the issue of precedent, there arguably being a pupil-surpassing-the-master type of scenario.
In the case of Adjani, to my mind she over-egged the pudding with her performance, making it less convincing than Pike's — although a not-insignificant part of the impact for both will be down to directing, cinematography, and editing.
Voodoo In My Blood (2016) / Possession (1981) - uploaded by TheClebes
I think that the link between Joe Strummer and Elvis Presley's song Blue Moon is the movie Mystery Train. This movie, by one of my favorite directors Jim Jarmusch*, consists of three stories. In each story you can hear the song Blue Moon by Elvis playing on the radio**. In the third and last story of the movie, which is called 'Lost in Space', Joe Strummer stars as Johnny but he is also known as Elvis. And of course is Mystery Train not only the name of the movie but also the name of a song by Elvis. *With Coffee and Cigarettes being my favorite Jarmusch movie **Funny fact: the radio presentor's voice is that of Tom Waits --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your question about Pike and Adjani is a bit difficult. But I will give it a try. I believe you might be referring to the facts that: - Pike and Adjani are both moviestars and Blek le Rat and Banksy are both street artists. - Adjani and Blek started in the seventies, Pike and Banksy in the nineties of the last century. - Adjani and Blek le Rat are from France and Pike and Banksy are from the UK. - Both Pike and Adjani played in a music video, with the clip starring Pike was inspired by the movie Possesion starring Adjani and Blek le Rat's works inspired Banksy. You win, kjg, both the competition and bonus question prize. Congratulations. __________ REFERENCE ANSWERSThe individual who is tied in some way to Parts B, C and D is Joe Strummer. Part B: Elvis Presley - Blue Moon (1954)In Jim Jarmusch's 1989 film Mystery Train, the three distinct stories that make up the narrative are linked by a portion of Presley's version of "Blue Moon" (as heard on a radio broadcast) and a subsequent offscreen gunshot, which are heard once during each story, revealing that the three stories occur simultaneously in real time.*Joe Strummer is one of the actors in Mystery Train — playing the character Johnny, who's also referred to as "Elvis". The video provided for Blue Moon is merely a still of the cover of the album, Elvis Presley — the design of which was homaged by The Clash with 1979's London Calling. By way of side note, the latter album also features a photo of a pis sed-off Paul Simonon, taken by Pennie Smith*. Separately, the indirect clue provided yesterday was a clip from the 1990 film, I Hired a Contract Killer. It was directed by Aki Kaurismäki, who is often referred to as the Finnish Jim Jarmusch. Joe Strummer makes an appearance in that film as well: Joe Strummer - Burning Lights (I Hired A Contract Killer - 1990)- uploaded by zilogbassPart C: The Pogues - Summer in Siam (1990)The single Summer in Siam by The Pogues is from their 1990 album, Hell's Ditch — which was produced by Joe Strummer. A separate minor connection is the video having been directed by Don Letts, who first came to prominence as the videographer for The Clash. Strummer also played live with The Pogues, as a temporary replacement for injured guitarist Philip Chevron*, and later as singer for part of 1991 after Shane MacGowan was fired. Part D: Massive Attack, Young Fathers - Voodoo In My Blood (2016)This superb video directed by Ringan Ledwidge was filmed in the (now closed) Joe Strummer Subway in West London — a location where Strummer used to busk before becoming a founding member of The Clash. __________ BONUS REFERENCE ANSWERSVoodoo In My Blood is a clear homage to scenes in Possession (1981) by Andrzej Zulawski, and Phantasm (1979) by Don Coscarelli. *That first film stars the French actress Isabelle Adjani. The analogy I'd make between Rosamund Pike vs Isabelle Adjani on the one hand, and Banksy vs Blek le Rat on the other, relates to: (i) nationality; (ii) dates / chronology; and (iii) regarding the issue of precedent, there arguably being a pupil-surpassing-the-master type of scenario. In the case of Adjani, to my mind she over-egged the pudding with her performance, making it less convincing than Pike's — although a not-insignificant part of the impact for both will be down to directing, cinematography, and editing. Voodoo In My Blood (2016) / Possession (1981)- uploaded by TheClebes
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THE MET LOTTERY, by JockoLad on Aug 9, 2020 10:13:10 GMT 1, Joe Rogan Experience #1221 - Jonathan Haidt (2:05:10)- uploaded by PowerfulJRE on 7 January 2019Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist and Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business. He's also the author of books such as "The Happiness Hypothesis" and "The Coddling of the American Mind".NB: Besides placing great value on my remaining time on earth, I make a conscious effort to not waste other people's time. Accordingly, I only post long videos that I've both watched more than once and would recommend. In case you're hesitating about investing two hours of your life listening to Rogan and Haidt, here's a 21-minute excerpt to give you a flavour: Joe Rogan & Jonathan Haidt - Social Media is Giving Kids Anxiety (21:09)- uploaded by JRE Clips on 7 January 2019________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. QUESTIONS1. [00:00—30:00] After Jonathan Haidt first references his latest book's subtitle, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, he cites a specific example that, on balance, he believes falls into the good-intentions-bad-idea category. What is that example? 2. [1:00:00—1:30:00] Haidt refers to the most important lesson he and his co-author Greg Lukianoff hope will come from their book. He starts out by saying, "If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly..." Complete his sentence. 3. [1:30:00—2:05:10] Give (a) the full name of the author cited by Haidt as having written one of the most important books in the Western tradition, (b) the title of the book he's referring to, and (c) the subject matter of Chapter 2 of that book. [Will be back online at around 21:00 to check any answers.]
1. Micro-reporting systems within a University setting.
2. They will be emotionally stunted with higher rates of depression, anxiety and suicide.
3. On Liberty, John Stewart Mill, Ch 2: Best set of arguments ever made for free speech.
Joe Rogan Experience #1221 - Jonathan Haidt (2:05:10)- uploaded by PowerfulJRE on 7 January 2019Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist and Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business. He's also the author of books such as "The Happiness Hypothesis" and "The Coddling of the American Mind".NB: Besides placing great value on my remaining time on earth, I make a conscious effort to not waste other people's time. Accordingly, I only post long videos that I've both watched more than once and would recommend. In case you're hesitating about investing two hours of your life listening to Rogan and Haidt, here's a 21-minute excerpt to give you a flavour: Joe Rogan & Jonathan Haidt - Social Media is Giving Kids Anxiety (21:09)- uploaded by JRE Clips on 7 January 2019________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Thursday 6 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. QUESTIONS1. [00:00—30:00] After Jonathan Haidt first references his latest book's subtitle, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, he cites a specific example that, on balance, he believes falls into the good-intentions-bad-idea category. What is that example? 2. [1:00:00—1:30:00] Haidt refers to the most important lesson he and his co-author Greg Lukianoff hope will come from their book. He starts out by saying, "If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly..." Complete his sentence. 3. [1:30:00—2:05:10] Give (a) the full name of the author cited by Haidt as having written one of the most important books in the Western tradition, (b) the title of the book he's referring to, and (c) the subject matter of Chapter 2 of that book. [Will be back online at around 21:00 to check any answers.]1. Micro-reporting systems within a University setting. 2. They will be emotionally stunted with higher rates of depression, anxiety and suicide. 3. On Liberty, John Stewart Mill, Ch 2: Best set of arguments ever made for free speech.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 9, 2020 17:23:36 GMT 1, QUESTIONS1. [00:00—30:00] After Jonathan Haidt first references his latest book's subtitle, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, he cites a specific example that, on balance, he believes falls into the good-intentions-bad-idea category. What is that example? 2. [1:00:00—1:30:00] Haidt refers to the most important lesson he and his co-author Greg Lukianoff hope will come from their book. He starts out by saying, "If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly..." Complete his sentence. 3. [1:30:00—2:05:10] Give (a) the full name of the author cited by Haidt as having written one of the most important books in the Western tradition, (b) the title of the book he's referring to, and (c) the subject matter of Chapter 2 of that book. [...] 1. Micro-reporting systems within a University setting. 2. They will be emotionally stunted with higher rates of depression, anxiety and suicide. 3. On Liberty, John Stewart Mill, Ch 2: Best set of arguments ever made for free speech.
Congratulations, JockoLad.
All the more so, given that some two hours of your time were required. I hope you feel the investment was worthwhile and not wasted.
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1. Microaggression reporting systems
A microaggression reporting system has a good intention behind it. There are cases of professors who make ethnic jokes. [...] There are legitimate complaints and the faculty do... there should be some accountability, some responsibility. So there's a good intention behind it. But it's usually based on no empirical evidence.
And because it's based on pressure applied to a bureaucracy — not by a committee thinking, "Hmm, how can we improve the climate for everyone?" [...] — there's not thought put into, "What would happen if we give the students an East German-style anonymous reporting system, and so everybody's on notice that they can be reported at any point? What might happen to the social dynamics?"
Like, nobody thought that through. So the net effect again is the spectacular collapse of trust on campus.
2. If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly, you're going to raise emotionally-stunted kids who are at much higher risk of depression, anxiety and suicide.
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(a) Author: John Stuart Mill
(b) Book title: On Liberty
(c) Subject matter of Chapter 2 (Of the Liberty of Thought and Discussion): Arguments in favour of free speech.
Chapter 2 of On Liberty is the best set of arguments ever made for free speech, for why it is that we need to let people talk and challenge and criticise. Even if we think they're wrong, we get smarter from having to rebut them. Whereas if we shut them down, if we have blasphemy laws, we get dumber because we never actually face tests of what we believe.
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This was a key competition, to the point where my plan was to continue extending the deadline for responding to the questions until an eligible member finally won.
The conversation between Joe Rogan and Jonathan Haidt offers a foundation and building block for a few of my future competitions — which may be more challenging to people's beliefs. And so it had a purpose beyond itself, which was to serve as a psychological primer for part of what's to come.
That podcast covered, touched upon or alluded to many issues of concern to me:
(i) the need for a certain amount of hardship, stress and challenge in order to develop basic human abilities, i.e. how overprotecting children interferes with their development and the expansion of their abilities;
(ii) the alarming fragility of Gen Z, their lack of resilience and mental health issues;
(iii) intensified attacks in recent years on free speech, including via cancel culture and no-platforming;
(iv) the pernicious phenomena of call-out and pile-on cultures, especially on social media (and quite often with anonymous accounts);
(v) self-censorship or cowed silence by right-minded, rational individuals, and the hesitation or fear many of us have about sticking our heads above the parapet;
(vi) a general dearth of courage in our public discourse;
(vii) rising political polarisation (accompanied by increased radicalisation, black-and-white thinking, and feelings-based catastrophising) combined with the present scarcity of vocal, influential centrists;
(viii) good education requiring that we be capable of looking at our complicated world through multiple perspectives;
(ix) our loss of tolerance towards those with different political viewpoints, including our unwillingness (or complete inability) to engage in civilised discussion with them; and
(x) the need for critics who keep testing our opinions, allowing us in the process to remain thoughtful and less dogmatic — by forcing us to justify our positions, to present arguments instead of resorting to mere assertions or slurs.
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Music, cinema and other pop-culture-related competitions are fine. They can be good fun, even pushing participants to do their research and have a proper think. But these are also of secondary importance. They're mainly entertainment, thrown into the mix for lightness — to keep things fresh and hopefully engaging, by varying the tone of my posts.
The higher competitions for me are those relating to ideas, especially potentially awkward ones. In this respect, I'll repeat* a quote by Sam Harris (from one of his 'Ask Me Anything' sessions, podcast #24) which has stayed with me for years:
I find it thrilling when someone raises a point that I find I'm uncomfortable with, and I'm being led helplessly in the direction of something that I find destabilising to my cherished opinions. And I can't see any errors being made, and yet I don't like where I am being taken. I find that absolutely thrilling. I find those moments some of the best moments in intellectual life.
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JockoLad — Since my future competitions were going to be postponed until somebody eventually won this one, your efforts here broke that deadlock.
As an expression of gratitude, there follows a bonus question. If you choose to answer it, and do so correctly by 20:00 UK time on Monday, 10 August, you'll secure an undisclosed extra prize.
Between 0:00–30:00 in the podcast, while discussing what started happening at some universities in 2014, Jonathan Haidt states:
There's data from the Pew surveys. They've been measuring attitudes of Americans since the 80s or 90s. But they've been publishing this series on polarisation in which they show that in the 90s, if you knew somebody's attitude on gun control, that would only predict their attitude on abortion a certain per cent. And a lot of people on the Left, let's say, would hold six of the ten leftist attitudes. And same on the Right. But gradually, by the time you get to around 2010, it's like if you know one attitude, you know them all. [...]
So we evolved to do 'Us versus Them'. [...] If it's us, America, versus them, communist Russia or Nazi Germany, well then we all come together, and that's great for social cohesion and trust. But as that fades away, and as 'Us versus Them' became increasingly Left versus Right, and as we lost the liberal Republicans and the conservative Democrats — those used to exist until the 80s or 90s — [...] now, if you only hold your team's position on six out of ten items, you're a traitor. And so you better get with the programme.
And so the pressures for conformity, the pressures to agree with your team on everything have been steadily rising. And that means there's no __________. And we can't do higher education without __________. We can't do college without free thinking and the ability to say, "Well, you know what, wait a second. Maybe they do have a point on this thing."
And that's one of the reasons why it looks so weird from the outside, and why it's getting so unpleasant from the inside.
Removed twice from the above excerpt is a single word that connotes subtlety. It is a term and notion whose importance I am very militant about when exchanging ideas and opinions.
What is this word?
QUESTIONS1. [00:00—30:00] After Jonathan Haidt first references his latest book's subtitle, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, he cites a specific example that, on balance, he believes falls into the good-intentions-bad-idea category. What is that example? 2. [1:00:00—1:30:00] Haidt refers to the most important lesson he and his co-author Greg Lukianoff hope will come from their book. He starts out by saying, "If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly..." Complete his sentence. 3. [1:30:00—2:05:10] Give (a) the full name of the author cited by Haidt as having written one of the most important books in the Western tradition, (b) the title of the book he's referring to, and (c) the subject matter of Chapter 2 of that book. [...] 1. Micro-reporting systems within a University setting. 2. They will be emotionally stunted with higher rates of depression, anxiety and suicide. 3. On Liberty, John Stewart Mill, Ch 2: Best set of arguments ever made for free speech. Congratulations, JockoLad. All the more so, given that some two hours of your time were required. I hope you feel the investment was worthwhile and not wasted. REFERENCE ANSWERS1. Microaggression reporting systems A microaggression reporting system has a good intention behind it. There are cases of professors who make ethnic jokes. [...] There are legitimate complaints and the faculty do... there should be some accountability, some responsibility. So there's a good intention behind it. But it's usually based on no empirical evidence.
And because it's based on pressure applied to a bureaucracy — not by a committee thinking, "Hmm, how can we improve the climate for everyone?" [...] — there's not thought put into, "What would happen if we give the students an East German-style anonymous reporting system, and so everybody's on notice that they can be reported at any point? What might happen to the social dynamics?"
Like, nobody thought that through. So the net effect again is the spectacular collapse of trust on campus.2. If you see the world as dangerous and threatening and you raise your kids accordingly, you're going to raise emotionally-stunted kids who are at much higher risk of depression, anxiety and suicide.3.(a) Author: John Stuart Mill(b) Book title: On Liberty(c) Subject matter of Chapter 2 ( Of the Liberty of Thought and Discussion): Arguments in favour of free speech. Chapter 2 of On Liberty is the best set of arguments ever made for free speech, for why it is that we need to let people talk and challenge and criticise. Even if we think they're wrong, we get smarter from having to rebut them. Whereas if we shut them down, if we have blasphemy laws, we get dumber because we never actually face tests of what we believe.__________ This was a key competition, to the point where my plan was to continue extending the deadline for responding to the questions until an eligible member finally won. The conversation between Joe Rogan and Jonathan Haidt offers a foundation and building block for a few of my future competitions — which may be more challenging to people's beliefs. And so it had a purpose beyond itself, which was to serve as a psychological primer for part of what's to come. That podcast covered, touched upon or alluded to many issues of concern to me: (i) the need for a certain amount of hardship, stress and challenge in order to develop basic human abilities, i.e. how overprotecting children interferes with their development and the expansion of their abilities; (ii) the alarming fragility of Gen Z, their lack of resilience and mental health issues; (iii) intensified attacks in recent years on free speech, including via cancel culture and no-platforming; (iv) the pernicious phenomena of call-out and pile-on cultures, especially on social media (and quite often with anonymous accounts); (v) self-censorship or cowed silence by right-minded, rational individuals, and the hesitation or fear many of us have about sticking our heads above the parapet; (vi) a general dearth of courage in our public discourse; (vii) rising political polarisation (accompanied by increased radicalisation, black-and-white thinking, and feelings-based catastrophising) combined with the present scarcity of vocal, influential centrists; (viii) good education requiring that we be capable of looking at our complicated world through multiple perspectives; (ix) our loss of tolerance towards those with different political viewpoints, including our unwillingness (or complete inability) to engage in civilised discussion with them; and (x) the need for critics who keep testing our opinions, allowing us in the process to remain thoughtful and less dogmatic — by forcing us to justify our positions, to present arguments instead of resorting to mere assertions or slurs. __________ Music, cinema and other pop-culture-related competitions are fine. They can be good fun, even pushing participants to do their research and have a proper think. But these are also of secondary importance. They're mainly entertainment, thrown into the mix for lightness — to keep things fresh and hopefully engaging, by varying the tone of my posts. The higher competitions for me are those relating to ideas, especially potentially awkward ones. In this respect, I'll repeat * a quote by Sam Harris (from one of his 'Ask Me Anything' sessions, podcast #24) which has stayed with me for years: I find it thrilling when someone raises a point that I find I'm uncomfortable with, and I'm being led helplessly in the direction of something that I find destabilising to my cherished opinions. And I can't see any errors being made, and yet I don't like where I am being taken. I find that absolutely thrilling. I find those moments some of the best moments in intellectual life.__________ JockoLad — Since my future competitions were going to be postponed until somebody eventually won this one, your efforts here broke that deadlock. As an expression of gratitude, there follows a bonus question. If you choose to answer it, and do so correctly by 20:00 UK time on Monday, 10 August, you'll secure an undisclosed extra prize. Between 0:00–30:00 in the podcast, while discussing what started happening at some universities in 2014, Jonathan Haidt states: There's data from the Pew surveys. They've been measuring attitudes of Americans since the 80s or 90s. But they've been publishing this series on polarisation in which they show that in the 90s, if you knew somebody's attitude on gun control, that would only predict their attitude on abortion a certain per cent. And a lot of people on the Left, let's say, would hold six of the ten leftist attitudes. And same on the Right. But gradually, by the time you get to around 2010, it's like if you know one attitude, you know them all. [...]
So we evolved to do 'Us versus Them'. [...] If it's us, America, versus them, communist Russia or Nazi Germany, well then we all come together, and that's great for social cohesion and trust. But as that fades away, and as 'Us versus Them' became increasingly Left versus Right, and as we lost the liberal Republicans and the conservative Democrats — those used to exist until the 80s or 90s — [...] now, if you only hold your team's position on six out of ten items, you're a traitor. And so you better get with the programme.
And so the pressures for conformity, the pressures to agree with your team on everything have been steadily rising. And that means there's no __________. And we can't do higher education without __________. We can't do college without free thinking and the ability to say, "Well, you know what, wait a second. Maybe they do have a point on this thing."
And that's one of the reasons why it looks so weird from the outside, and why it's getting so unpleasant from the inside.Removed twice from the above excerpt is a single word that connotes subtlety. It is a term and notion whose importance I am very militant about when exchanging ideas and opinions. What is this word?
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 9, 2020 22:32:18 GMT 1, Elvis Presley - Blue Suede Shoes (1956) - uploaded by King Of The Whole Wide World
The Clash - The Guns of Brixton (1979) - uploaded by The Clash
Simon & Garfunkel - Punky's Dilemma (1968) - uploaded by Simon and Garfunkel
Kruder & Dorfmeister - High Noon (1993) - uploaded by OjuML
The Kinks - Till the End of the Day (Mono Mix, 1965) - uploaded by The Kinks
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out (1997) - uploaded by Sleater Kinney
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At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 11 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
Elvis Presley - Blue Suede Shoes (1956) - uploaded by King Of The Whole Wide World
The Clash - The Guns of Brixton (1979) - uploaded by The Clash
Simon & Garfunkel - Punky's Dilemma (1968) - uploaded by Simon and Garfunkel
Kruder & Dorfmeister - High Noon (1993) - uploaded by OjuML
The Kinks - Till the End of the Day (Mono Mix, 1965) - uploaded by The Kinks
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out (1997) - uploaded by Sleater Kinney
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THE MET LOTTERY, by JockoLad on Aug 10, 2020 18:34:31 GMT 1, Nuance. He uses it a fair bit throughout the discussion.
Enjoyed listening to it all and it was my first experience of a Joe Rogan podcast. Off the back of it I have purchased Haidt’s book, Happiness Hypothesis, and look forward to reading it in the coming weeks. I will also likely read ‘On Liberty‘ at some point also.
Nuance. He uses it a fair bit throughout the discussion.
Enjoyed listening to it all and it was my first experience of a Joe Rogan podcast. Off the back of it I have purchased Haidt’s book, Happiness Hypothesis, and look forward to reading it in the coming weeks. I will also likely read ‘On Liberty‘ at some point also.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 10, 2020 22:42:26 GMT 1, Nuance. He uses it a fair bit throughout the discussion. Enjoyed listening to it all and it was my first experience of a Joe Rogan podcast. Off the back of it I have purchased Haidt’s book, Happiness Hypothesis, and look forward to reading it in the coming weeks. I will also likely read ‘On Liberty‘ at some point also.
Bonus prize secured. Congratulations for the second time, JockoLad.
Nuance is a quality I often find to be wanting in exchanges relating to socio-politics — along with thoughtfulness, knowledge and, sadly, good faith (including intellectual honesty).
Regarding lack of good faith, it's typically manifested by individuals misrepresenting the positions of their opponents (strawmanning); being disingenuous in their responses; failing to acknowledge when the other side raises a valid issue; and resorting to ad hominem attacks, especially when they run out of arguments.
Such exchanges sometimes feel like mere pretences of discussions — where the goal isn't actually to learn, understand competing perspectives or truth-seek, but just to score points.
Attacking the other side by "putting the boot in" can thus become ritualistic. Like an in-group bonding exercise. It's the opportunity to assert allegiance to one's tribe, and receive praise or validating 'likes' from fellow tribe members. That usually seems to take precedence over fairness and fair play.
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I am a fan of Joe Rogan's podcast. He is intelligent, articulate, and he has a natural curiosity. Those attributes, combined with his common-man touch, make him a remarkably effective communicator. The clout he's earned also allows him to continue racking up impressive guests from every walk of life.
More of his podcasts to come.
Nuance. He uses it a fair bit throughout the discussion. Enjoyed listening to it all and it was my first experience of a Joe Rogan podcast. Off the back of it I have purchased Haidt’s book, Happiness Hypothesis, and look forward to reading it in the coming weeks. I will also likely read ‘On Liberty‘ at some point also. Bonus prize secured. Congratulations for the second time, JockoLad. Nuance is a quality I often find to be wanting in exchanges relating to socio-politics — along with thoughtfulness, knowledge and, sadly, good faith (including intellectual honesty). Regarding lack of good faith, it's typically manifested by individuals misrepresenting the positions of their opponents (strawmanning); being disingenuous in their responses; failing to acknowledge when the other side raises a valid issue; and resorting to ad hominem attacks, especially when they run out of arguments. Such exchanges sometimes feel like mere pretences of discussions — where the goal isn't actually to learn, understand competing perspectives or truth-seek, but just to score points. Attacking the other side by "putting the boot in" can thus become ritualistic. Like an in-group bonding exercise. It's the opportunity to assert allegiance to one's tribe, and receive praise or validating 'likes' from fellow tribe members. That usually seems to take precedence over fairness and fair play. __________ I am a fan of Joe Rogan's podcast. He is intelligent, articulate, and he has a natural curiosity. Those attributes, combined with his common-man touch, make him a remarkably effective communicator. The clout he's earned also allows him to continue racking up impressive guests from every walk of life. More of his podcasts to come.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 11, 2020 19:59:59 GMT 1, Elvis Presley - Blue Suede Shoes (1956)- uploaded by King Of The Whole Wide WorldThe Clash - The Guns of Brixton (1979)- uploaded by The ClashSimon & Garfunkel - Punky's Dilemma (1968)- uploaded by Simon and GarfunkelKruder & Dorfmeister - High Noon (1993) - uploaded by OjuMLThe Kinks - Till the End of the Day (Mono Mix, 1965)- uploaded by The KinksSleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out (1997)- uploaded by Sleater Kinney________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 11 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
The albums shown as still images for the above videos can be divided into three pairs, with the cover design for the second album of each pair being a playful homage to the first.
However, Dig Me Out by Sleater-Kinney does more than reference the design of an earlier album. Its main photo also reveals other record covers in the background. I was able to identify three of them.
1. Name at least two of these album titles and the relevant artist(s).
2. For each album cited, post a music video to a song that features on it.
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Elvis Presley - Blue Suede Shoes (1956)- uploaded by King Of The Whole Wide WorldThe Clash - The Guns of Brixton (1979)- uploaded by The ClashSimon & Garfunkel - Punky's Dilemma (1968)- uploaded by Simon and GarfunkelKruder & Dorfmeister - High Noon (1993) - uploaded by OjuMLThe Kinks - Till the End of the Day (Mono Mix, 1965)- uploaded by The KinksSleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out (1997)- uploaded by Sleater Kinney________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 11 August, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. The albums shown as still images for the above videos can be divided into three pairs, with the cover design for the second album of each pair being a playful homage to the first. However, Dig Me Out by Sleater-Kinney does more than reference the design of an earlier album. Its main photo also reveals other record covers in the background. I was able to identify three of them. 1. Name at least two of these album titles and the relevant artist(s). 2. For each album cited, post a music video to a song that features on it. ________________ In case nobody responds correctly beforehand, answers will be posted in 24 hours — at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 12 August.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by That Print Guy on Aug 11, 2020 20:33:18 GMT 1, Black sabbath vol 4 - black sabbath
Dance craze the best of british ska - live! The specials The english beat Bad manners Madness The selector The body snatchers
Black sabbath vol 4 - black sabbath
Dance craze the best of british ska - live! The specials The english beat Bad manners Madness The selector The body snatchers
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THE MET LOTTERY, by Schrödinger's Chat on Aug 11, 2020 20:34:33 GMT 1, Black sabbath Vol 4
Dance Craze best of british ska live
To link it back to the world of art, Wesley Magoogan, saxophonist supreme from the Beat is the dad of artist Lester Magoogan - www.lestermagoogan.co.uk/
Black sabbath Vol 4 Dance Craze best of british ska live To link it back to the world of art, Wesley Magoogan, saxophonist supreme from the Beat is the dad of artist Lester Magoogan - www.lestermagoogan.co.uk/
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THE MET LOTTERY, by Schrödinger's Chat on Aug 11, 2020 20:35:53 GMT 1, Haha, if I hadn't been checking Lester's dad's name I would have posted seconds before theprintguy. Serves me right for showing off.
Haha, if I hadn't been checking Lester's dad's name I would have posted seconds before theprintguy. Serves me right for showing off.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 11, 2020 21:11:43 GMT 1, Black sabbath vol 4 - black sabbath Dance craze the best of british ska - live! The specials The english beat Bad manners Madness The selector The body snatchers
Well done, That Print Guy. Congratulations to you.
And commiserations to Schrödinger's Chat.
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This competition was about musical artists paying visual tribute to other artists.
Answering the questions may have required some resourcefulness. If the video image lacked sufficient clarity, then a Google search was needed for a higher-res photo of the Sleater-Kinney album (to the extent members didn't own a copy).
Sleater-Kinney's Twitter account was helpful in this respect:
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The three albums I spotted:
1. Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (1972)*
Black Sabbath - Tomorrow's Dream (1972) - uploaded by Black Sabbath
2. Dance Craze (1981)*, the live compilation and soundtrack for the 1981 American documentary of the same name, about the British ska revival / 2 Tone music genre — featuring performances by Bad Manners, The Beat, The Bodysnatchers, Madness, The Selecter, and The Specials.
[NB: Specific knowledge wasn't necessary here. For anyone familiar with the genre, the record cover alone made clear it was ska-related. The album then shows up in the top results of a Google Images search for "ska album".]
Madness - Night Boat to Cairo (live, 1980) - uploaded by SivarRude
3. John Lennon and Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy (1980)*
John Lennon - Watching the Wheels (1980) - uploaded by johnlennon
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Side note: Fans of Sleater-Kinney will know that Carrie Brownstein is also an actress, comedian, writer and director — starring with Fred Armisen in Portlandia.
Black sabbath vol 4 - black sabbath Dance craze the best of british ska - live! The specials The english beat Bad manners Madness The selector The body snatchers Well done, That Print Guy. Congratulations to you. And commiserations to Schrödinger's Chat. REFERENCE ANSWERSThis competition was about musical artists paying visual tribute to other artists. Answering the questions may have required some resourcefulness. If the video image lacked sufficient clarity, then a Google search was needed for a higher-res photo of the Sleater-Kinney album (to the extent members didn't own a copy). Sleater-Kinney's Twitter account was helpful in this respect: __________ The three albums I spotted: 1. Black Sabbath - Vol. 4 (1972) *Black Sabbath - Tomorrow's Dream (1972)- uploaded by Black Sabbath2. Dance Craze (1981) *, the live compilation and soundtrack for the 1981 American documentary of the same name, about the British ska revival / 2 Tone music genre — featuring performances by Bad Manners, The Beat, The Bodysnatchers, Madness, The Selecter, and The Specials. [NB: Specific knowledge wasn't necessary here. For anyone familiar with the genre, the record cover alone made clear it was ska-related. The album then shows up in the top results of a Google Images search for "ska album".]Madness - Night Boat to Cairo (live, 1980)- uploaded by SivarRude3. John Lennon and Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy (1980) *John Lennon - Watching the Wheels (1980)- uploaded by johnlennon__________ Side note: Fans of Sleater-Kinney will know that Carrie Brownstein is also an actress, comedian, writer and director — starring with Fred Armisen in Portlandia.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by viz on Aug 11, 2020 21:26:58 GMT 1, subpop reissue of the album seems to use a different and larger image with respect to the original release, with additional records on view:
The one just above the Black Sabbath record looks like Bowie, although I could not identify any record with that cover, any ideas?
subpop reissue of the album seems to use a different and larger image with respect to the original release, with additional records on view: The one just above the Black Sabbath record looks like Bowie, although I could not identify any record with that cover, any ideas?
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 11, 2020 21:48:35 GMT 1, subpop reissue of the album seems to use a different and larger image with respect to the original release, with additional records on view: The one just above the Black Sabbath record looks like Bowie, although I could not identify any record with that cover, any ideas?
Cheers for posting. Wasn't aware that a less-cropped main image was used for the album's reissue.
Sorry — I don't recognise the cover just above the Black Sabbath record.
What looks like a vest also made me think of Leonard Cohen, but my Google search was unsuccessful.
subpop reissue of the album seems to use a different and larger image with respect to the original release, with additional records on view: The one just above the Black Sabbath record looks like Bowie, although I could not identify any record with that cover, any ideas? Cheers for posting. Wasn't aware that a less-cropped main image was used for the album's reissue. Sorry — I don't recognise the cover just above the Black Sabbath record. What looks like a vest also made me think of Leonard Cohen, but my Google search was unsuccessful.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 12, 2020 2:57:26 GMT 1,
Many thanks. That has spared me some mild anxiety (induced just by being conscious of my ignorance), and possibly a great deal of time scouring Google Images.
Many thanks. That has spared me some mild anxiety (induced just by being conscious of my ignorance), and possibly a great deal of time scouring Google Images.
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