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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Apr 1, 2017 0:11:55 GMT 1, BONUS C15 QUESTIONSKeeping in mind point 4 of the Game Format and Rules, please answer the following: 1. Given its likely objectives and the means used to try to achieve those objectives, this game โ in very broad terms โ could be described as following the example of a past, politicised str eet art event. Which event? Explain also in what way the game (including its use of a prize) may be seen as having been inspired by that event, at least from a tactical perspective. 2. In 2005, Ban ksy released an image featuring a well-known model. It was the artist's playful nod to (and contemporary, British take on) Andy War hol's Marilyn. Name the female fashion and celebrity photographer who shot the source image of this model. [Since the question may be esoteric even for Ban ksy enthusiasts, here's a workable clue: 48 Hrs., the 1982 film starring Nick Nolte and Eddie Murphy. Scene where the cop played by Nolte first meets Murphy's character, who's lying in his jail cell, listening and singing along (badly) to a song on his Walkman cassette player. Happy Googling.] 3. Consider your favourite artist or one of your top 10 favourite artists: (i) Name the artist. (ii) Now play the critic. In three or more sentences, describe what you feel to be the greatest weakness(es) in that artist's work, or the aspects you're least enamoured with or most hesitant about when it comes to their work. [Competition winner to be confirmed as from 22:00 UK time (GMT+1) (but no later than 23:59 GMT).]
No winner for lottery number 45.
BONUS C15 REFERENCE ANSWERS
1. One of different possible answers: Santa's Ghetto 2007. Besides the attraction of the experience itself, a further inducement was offered by Pictures On Walls to encourage people to travel to Bethlehem. Attending in person was the only way of buying artwork available there by numerous artists including Banksy.
That added incentive may well have been a tipping point for some art enthusiasts, pushing them to make a greater effort to experience something they might otherwise have been unaware of or less familiar with.
[It isn't the specific answer that matters here, but the underlying reason(s) for arriving at the answer. "Why" or "how" has priority over "what".]
2. Roxanne Lovit.
[Eddie Murphy's character in 48 Hrs. was singing to Roxanne by The Police, which was playing on his Walkman. A Google search for "Kate Moss Roxanne" immediately arrives at the answer.
Film scene perhaps even better when dubbed in German:
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3. [No reference answer, each answer being personal to the responder.]
BONUS C15 QUESTIONSKeeping in mind point 4 of the Game Format and Rules, please answer the following: 1. Given its likely objectives and the means used to try to achieve those objectives, this game โ in very broad terms โ could be described as following the example of a past, politicised str eet art event. Which event? Explain also in what way the game (including its use of a prize) may be seen as having been inspired by that event, at least from a tactical perspective. 2. In 2005, Ban ksy released an image featuring a well-known model. It was the artist's playful nod to (and contemporary, British take on) Andy War hol's Marilyn. Name the female fashion and celebrity photographer who shot the source image of this model. [Since the question may be esoteric even for Ban ksy enthusiasts, here's a workable clue: 48 Hrs., the 1982 film starring Nick Nolte and Eddie Murphy. Scene where the cop played by Nolte first meets Murphy's character, who's lying in his jail cell, listening and singing along (badly) to a song on his Walkman cassette player. Happy Googling.] 3. Consider your favourite artist or one of your top 10 favourite artists: (i) Name the artist. (ii) Now play the critic. In three or more sentences, describe what you feel to be the greatest weakness(es) in that artist's work, or the aspects you're least enamoured with or most hesitant about when it comes to their work. [Competition winner to be confirmed as from 22:00 UK time (GMT+1) (but no later than 23:59 GMT).] No winner for lottery number 45. BONUS C15 REFERENCE ANSWERS1. One of different possible answers: Santa's Ghetto 2007. Besides the attraction of the experience itself, a further inducement was offered by Pictures On Walls to encourage people to travel to Bethlehem. Attending in person was the only way of buying artwork available there by numerous artists including Ban ksy. That added incentive may well have been a tipping point for some art enthusiasts, pushing them to make a greater effort to experience something they might otherwise have been unaware of or less familiar with. [It isn't the specific answer that matters here, but the underlying reason(s) for arriving at the answer. "Why" or "how" has priority over "what".]2. Roxanne Lovit. [Eddie Murphy's character in 48 Hrs. was singing to Roxanne by The Police, which was playing on his Walkman. A Google search for "Kate Moss Roxanne" immediately arrives at the answer.
Film scene perhaps even better when dubbed in German:
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Apr 1, 2017 0:45:34 GMT 1,
We now have 44 allocated numbers.
The lottery winner will be decided by the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw in the UK on Saturday, 1 April at 20:30 UK time (GMT+1) โ drawing from 59 numbered balls.
This draw can be watched live on the following three sites:
www.national-lottery.co.uk/results/lottery-draws
www.youtube.com/user/TheNationalLottery/
www.facebook.com/TheNationalLotteryUK/
The winning number for the met lottery will correspond to the number of the first ball between 1 and 44 released in the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw. The player with that number allocated to them wins the met lottery prize.
[Although statistically unlikely, it's possible that all seven balls released on Saturday in the 'Lotto' draw will be numbered between 45 and 59. If that turns out to be the case, the met lottery winning number will be determined the same manner in the next 'Lotto' draw on Wednesday, 5 April.]
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If I sit here now and do nothing, a specific number will end up winning.
However, I am committed to adding some disruption to the proceedings. Is anyone on this forum into chaos theory?
In the next five minutes, I shall go outside my front door and flap my arms furiously for five seconds. That will amount to normal butterfly-effect initial conditions being magnified (in my estimate) by about 10,000. It will surely alter the future winning-number result โ thereby messing things up for the person who'd otherwise have won the prize, had it not been for my unnecessary additional intervention.
I shall do this partly out of sadism, and partly to promote among players a "win some, lose some" philosophical approach to life.
We now have 44 allocated numbers. The lottery winner will be decided by the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw in the UK on Saturday, 1 April at 20:30 UK time (GMT+1) โ drawing from 59 numbered balls. This draw can be watched live on the following three sites: www.national-lottery.co.uk/results/lottery-drawswww.youtube.com/user/TheNationalLottery/www.facebook.com/TheNationalLotteryUK/The winning number for the met lottery will correspond to the number of the first ball between 1 and 44 released in the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw. The player with that number allocated to them wins the met lottery prize. [Although statistically unlikely, it's possible that all seven balls released on Saturday in the 'Lotto' draw will be numbered between 45 and 59. If that turns out to be the case, the met lottery winning number will be determined the same manner in the next 'Lotto' draw on Wednesday, 5 April.] _____________________________ If I sit here now and do nothing, a specific number will end up winning. However, I am committed to adding some disruption to the proceedings. Is anyone on this forum into chaos theory? In the next five minutes, I shall go outside my front door and flap my arms furiously for five seconds. That will amount to normal butterfly-effect initial conditions being magnified (in my estimate) by about 10,000. It will surely alter the future winning-number result โ thereby messing things up for the person who'd otherwise have won the prize, had it not been for my unnecessary additional intervention. I shall do this partly out of sadism, and partly to promote among players a "win some, lose some" philosophical approach to life. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 0:48:48 GMT 1, We now have 44 allocated numbers. The lottery winner will be decided by the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw in the UK on Saturday, 1 April at 20:30ย UKย time (GMT+1) โ drawing from 59 numbered balls. This draw can be watched live on the following three sites: www.national-lottery.co.uk/results/lottery-drawswww.youtube.com/user/TheNationalLottery/www.facebook.com/TheNationalLotteryUK/The winning number for the met lottery will correspond to the number of the first ball between 1 and 44 released in the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw. The player with that number allocated to them wins the met lottery prize. [Although statistically unlikely, it's possible that all seven balls released on Saturday in the 'Lotto' draw will be numbered between 45 and 59. If that turns out to be the case, the met lottery winning number will be determined the same manner in the next 'Lotto' draw on Wednesday, 5ย April.] _____________________________ If I sit here now and do nothing, a specific number will end up winning. However, I am committed to adding some disruption to the proceedings. Is anyone on this forum into chaos theory? In the next five minutes, I shall go outside my front door and flap my arms furiously for five seconds. That will amount to normal butterfly-effect initial conditions being magnified (in my estimate) by about 10,000. It will surely alter the future winning-number result โ thereby messing things up for the person who'd otherwise have won the prize, had it not been for my unnecessary additional intervention. I shall do this partly out of sadism, and partly to promote among players a "win some, lose some" philosophical approach to life.
Hope someone enjoys that signed Banksy you are giving away
We now have 44 allocated numbers. The lottery winner will be decided by the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw in the UK on Saturday, 1 April at 20:30ย UKย time (GMT+1) โ drawing from 59 numbered balls. This draw can be watched live on the following three sites: www.national-lottery.co.uk/results/lottery-drawswww.youtube.com/user/TheNationalLottery/www.facebook.com/TheNationalLotteryUK/The winning number for the met lottery will correspond to the number of the first ball between 1 and 44 released in the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw. The player with that number allocated to them wins the met lottery prize. [Although statistically unlikely, it's possible that all seven balls released on Saturday in the 'Lotto' draw will be numbered between 45 and 59. If that turns out to be the case, the met lottery winning number will be determined the same manner in the next 'Lotto' draw on Wednesday, 5ย April.] _____________________________ If I sit here now and do nothing, a specific number will end up winning. However, I am committed to adding some disruption to the proceedings. Is anyone on this forum into chaos theory? In the next five minutes, I shall go outside my front door and flap my arms furiously for five seconds. That will amount to normal butterfly-effect initial conditions being magnified (in my estimate) by about 10,000. It will surely alter the future winning-number result โ thereby messing things up for the person who'd otherwise have won the prize, had it not been for my unnecessary additional intervention. I shall do this partly out of sadism, and partly to promote among players a "win some, lose some" philosophical approach to life. Hope someone enjoys that signed Banksy you are giving away |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by .dappy on Apr 1, 2017 0:56:12 GMT 1, ... there is as much chance as the numbers been drawn as 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 as any other sequence or collective of numbers ...
... each number has an equal opportunity to be drawn ...
... there is as much chance as the numbers been drawn as 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 as any other sequence or collective of numbers ...
... each number has an equal opportunity to be drawn ...
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Apr 1, 2017 15:11:45 GMT 1, ... there is as much chance as the numbers been drawn as 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 as any other sequence or collective of numbers ... ... each number has an equal opportunity to be drawn ...
I'm not sure whether this post was meant to be standalone, or if it was instead responding to an earlier comment.
In case it was addressed to me, then we are in complete agreement.
... there is as much chance as the numbers been drawn as 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 as any other sequence or collective of numbers ... ... each number has an equal opportunity to be drawn ... I'm not sure whether this post was meant to be standalone, or if it was instead responding to an earlier comment. In case it was addressed to me, then we are in complete agreement. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by ed on Apr 1, 2017 15:51:39 GMT 1, Look forward to the draw tonight...Good luck to tyler, twist65 and doyle but best of luck to me  i hope whoever wins posts whatever the hell this prize is!
met, it looks like you put in a huge amount of work and i for one really enjoyed the whole process. I found it a really mind expanding month that's also changed some of my evening lifestyle, sparked a few decent conversations with friends and got me more involved in this place. A heartfelt thanks.
Look forward to the draw tonight...Good luck to tyler, twist65 and doyle but best of luck to me i hope whoever wins posts whatever the hell this prize is! met, it looks like you put in a huge amount of work and i for one really enjoyed the whole process. I found it a really mind expanding month that's also changed some of my evening lifestyle, sparked a few decent conversations with friends and got me more involved in this place. A heartfelt thanks. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Apr 1, 2017 20:13:42 GMT 1, Firstly, touchรฉ for putting on this excellent lottery. (Sadly for me, my work schedule did not permit me to participate.) Secondly, I'd love to be a fly on wall to see you flapping like crazy outside your front door. Thirdly, the fact that you specify going outside to flap...makes me feel you don't really have a grasp of dynamic systems in relation to chaos theory.  However, I am committed to adding some disruption to the proceedings. Is anyone on this forum into chaos theory? In the next five minutes, I shall go outside my front door and flap my arms furiously for five seconds. That will amount to normal butterfly-effect initial conditions being magnified (in my estimate) by about 10,000. It will surely alter the future winning-number result โ thereby messing things up for the person who'd otherwise have won the prize, had it not been for my unnecessary additional intervention. I shall do this partly out of sadism, and partly to promote among players a "win some, lose some" philosophical approach to life.
Cheers, and the recurring fencing reference is also appreciated.
You got me on the "Thirdly".
I'm an amateur and eternal student in pretty much every field of life.
Firstly, touchรฉ for putting on this excellent lottery. (Sadly for me, my work schedule did not permit me to participate.) Secondly, I'd love to be a fly on wall to see you flapping like crazy outside your front door. Thirdly, the fact that you specify going outside to flap...makes me feel you don't really have a grasp of dynamic systems in relation to chaos theory. However, I am committed to adding some disruption to the proceedings. Is anyone on this forum into chaos theory? In the next five minutes, I shall go outside my front door and flap my arms furiously for five seconds. That will amount to normal butterfly-effect initial conditions being magnified (in my estimate) by about 10,000. It will surely alter the future winning-number result โ thereby messing things up for the person who'd otherwise have won the prize, had it not been for my unnecessary additional intervention. I shall do this partly out of sadism, and partly to promote among players a "win some, lose some" philosophical approach to life. Cheers, and the recurring fencing reference is also appreciated. You got me on the "Thirdly". I'm an amateur and eternal student in pretty much every field of life. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Apr 1, 2017 20:38:19 GMT 1,
The first ball numbered between 1 and 44 released just now in the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw was 11.
This number was allocated to ed, as winner of Competition 5.
Congratulations. I'll be in touch via private message for your details.
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Thank you to all the other March 2017 participants in PART I: MARATHON: Cornish Crayon, doyle, tyler, .dappy, twist65, Schrรถdinger's Chat and Coach.
I hope the game or some of its components were, if not enjoyable, then at least an interesting challenge.
As for myself, I especially liked reading the answers to question 3 of Bonus Competition 15 โ so separate thanks to ed, Coach and doyle for being open to critiquing artists whose work they admire.
The first ball numbered between 1 and 44 released just now in the National Lottery 'Lotto' draw was 11. This number was allocated to ed, as winner of Competition 5. Congratulations. I'll be in touch via private message for your details. ____________ Thank you to all the other March 2017 participants in PART I: MARATHON: Cornish Crayon, doyle, tyler, .dappy, twist65, Schrรถdinger's Chat and Coach. I hope the game or some of its components were, if not enjoyable, then at least an interesting challenge. As for myself, I especially liked reading the answers to question 3 of Bonus Competition 15 โ so separate thanks to ed, Coach and doyle for being open to critiquing artists whose work they admire. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by ed on Apr 1, 2017 20:40:24 GMT 1, The first ball numbered between 1 and 44 released just now in the Nationalย Lottery 'Lotto' draw was 11. This number was allocated to ed, as winner of Competitionย 5. Congratulations. I'll be in touch via private message for your details. ____________ Thank you to all the other March 2017 participants in PARTย I: MARATHON: Cornish Crayon, doyle, tyler, .dappy, twist65, Schrรถdinger's Chat and Coach. I hope the game or some of its components were, if not enjoyable, then at least an interesting challenge. As for myself, I especially liked reading the answers to question 3 of Bonus Competitionย 15 โ so separate thanks to ed, Coach and doyle for being open to critiquing artists whose work they admire.
Woop. Over the moon to of won, even though it could be a cup of air or a video of you flapping.
The first ball numbered between 1 and 44 released just now in the Nationalย Lottery 'Lotto' draw was 11. This number was allocated to ed, as winner of Competitionย 5. Congratulations. I'll be in touch via private message for your details. ____________ Thank you to all the other March 2017 participants in PARTย I: MARATHON: Cornish Crayon, doyle, tyler, .dappy, twist65, Schrรถdinger's Chat and Coach. I hope the game or some of its components were, if not enjoyable, then at least an interesting challenge. As for myself, I especially liked reading the answers to question 3 of Bonus Competitionย 15 โ so separate thanks to ed, Coach and doyle for being open to critiquing artists whose work they admire. Woop. Over the moon to of won, even though it could be a cup of air or a video of you flapping. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by doyle on Apr 1, 2017 21:10:04 GMT 1, Congratulations ed well done you deserve it. Yes, what a marathon competition that was! I really enjoyed it because I didn't think I had any competitive nature left in me, but it's still there.
Thank you met for all your hard work you have put into this, it is much appreciated. There are plenty of links and other references in this thread still to keep me looking back and going over again. I have loved the journey, the topics covered, re-organising my social life and battling with faulty internet and battling with ed For a while I have been considering to go back and study Psychology in September and by doing this, getting my brain engaged again, has given me a kick up the ass to do it, so thank you.
Congratulations ed well done you deserve it. Yes, what a marathon competition that was! I really enjoyed it because I didn't think I had any competitive nature left in me, but it's still there. Thank you met for all your hard work you have put into this, it is much appreciated. There are plenty of links and other references in this thread still to keep me looking back and going over again. I have loved the journey, the topics covered, re-organising my social life and battling with faulty internet and battling with ed For a while I have been considering to go back and study Psychology in September and by doing this, getting my brain engaged again, has given me a kick up the ass to do it, so thank you. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by ed on Apr 1, 2017 21:15:41 GMT 1, Thanks doyle, i really enjoyed our battle! I hope you do take that leap into psychology, i always thought your answers, and general posts in this thread, were very considered and much more articulate than any of mine.
Thanks doyle, i really enjoyed our battle! I hope you do take that leap into psychology, i always thought your answers, and general posts in this thread, were very considered and much more articulate than any of mine. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by doyle on Apr 1, 2017 21:43:47 GMT 1, ed thank you & looking toward to what part 2 is all about ๐
ed thank you & looking toward to what part 2 is all about ๐
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THE MET LOTTERY, by Cornish Crayon on Apr 1, 2017 22:01:11 GMT 1, I found it a really mind expanding month that's also changed some of my evening lifestyle, sparked a few decent conversations with friends and got me more involved in this place. A heartfelt thanks.
Could you expand on the lifestyle changes please ed,
Congratulations on winning ed dude
, I wish I could have found the time to keep up with all of them, I don't very often sit and watch things for more than an hour unless I know I am gonna really be Intrested in its content, no offence met but with my shift pattern for work and only a twenty five minute commute I was trying to fit in listening to them en route and before I knew it I was a week behind etc etc
You write like nobody else.............. (on this forum)
Peace โ๏ธ๐
I found it a really mind expanding month that's also changed some of my evening lifestyle, sparked a few decent conversations with friends and got me more involved in this place. A heartfelt thanks. Could you expand on the lifestyle changes please ed, Congratulations on winning ed dude , I wish I could have found the time to keep up with all of them, I don't very often sit and watch things for more than an hour unless I know I am gonna really be Intrested in its content, no offence met but with my shift pattern for work and only a twenty five minute commute I was trying to fit in listening to them en route and before I knew it I was a week behind etc etc You write like nobody else.............. (on this forum) Peace โ๏ธ๐ |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by Sturban Has Saggy Tits on Apr 1, 2017 22:33:29 GMT 1, Well done to everyone involved and ed for winning. Absolutely loved the genius of Mets terms and conditions at the beginning. But with not a lot of time on my hands to watch the vids(also I have a brain made of mush) my participation was never going to happen.
I did catch a glimpse of Met's flapping in action which was worth it 
Well done to everyone involved and ed for winning. Absolutely loved the genius of Mets terms and conditions at the beginning. But with not a lot of time on my hands to watch the vids(also I have a brain made of mush) my participation was never going to happen. I did catch a glimpse of Met's flapping in action which was worth it |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by ed on Apr 1, 2017 22:34:47 GMT 1, I found it a really mind expanding month that's also changed some of my evening lifestyle, sparked a few decent conversations with friends and got me more involved in this place. A heartfelt thanks. Could you expand on the lifestyle changes please ed
I'd gotten into a rut of eating really bad food, not doing anything to challenge myself or my thought processes and tbh just spent a sh load of time sitting on my ass watching rubbish TV.
I'd been working part time for about 9 months and was struggling to find the motivation to return to full time.
Almost every subject in this competition tapped into something i knew i needed to focus on or was a catalyst for increased motivation.
To be candid, I'd been pretty down for the last three years or so and this month has been one of the happiest in recent times. Devoting time to this...Even the process of just sitting, listening to these talks and spending time mulling them over...Seems to of snapped me out of something. Hope this isn't over share!
I found it a really mind expanding month that's also changed some of my evening lifestyle, sparked a few decent conversations with friends and got me more involved in this place. A heartfelt thanks. Could you expand on the lifestyle changes please ed I'd gotten into a rut of eating really bad food, not doing anything to challenge myself or my thought processes and tbh just spent a sh load of time sitting on my ass watching rubbish TV. I'd been working part time for about 9 months and was struggling to find the motivation to return to full time. Almost every subject in this competition tapped into something i knew i needed to focus on or was a catalyst for increased motivation. To be candid, I'd been pretty down for the last three years or so and this month has been one of the happiest in recent times. Devoting time to this...Even the process of just sitting, listening to these talks and spending time mulling them over...Seems to of snapped me out of something. Hope this isn't over share! |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by doyle on Apr 1, 2017 23:27:12 GMT 1, That's great to hear this has been a catalyst for you ed
and that it has given you motivation to change things up a bit. My brain needed this too, and grateful for it 
That's great to hear this has been a catalyst for you ed and that it has given you motivation to change things up a bit. My brain needed this too, and grateful for it |
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met
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Apr 3, 2017 5:44:47 GMT 1, Could you expand on the lifestyle changes please ed I'd gotten into a rut of eating really bad food, not doing anything to challenge myself or my thought processes and tbh just spent a sh load of time sitting on my ass watching rubbish TV. I'd been working part time for about 9 months and was struggling to find the motivation to return to full time. Almost every subject in this competition tapped into something i knew i needed to focus on or was a catalyst for increased motivation. To be candid, I'd been pretty down for the last three years or so and this month has been one of the happiest in recent times. Devoting time to this...Even the process of just sitting, listening to these talks and spending time mulling them over...Seems to of snapped me out of something. Hope this isn't over share!
Wonderful to read. Thank you for posting.
The ability of ideas to challenge, inspire and galvanise is quite extraordinary, isn't it?
A comment made by Sam Harris about ideas and reasoning (during one of his 'Ask Me Anything' sessions, podcast #24) struck a chord with me last year:
I find it thrilling when someone raises a point that I find I'm uncomfortable with, and I'm being led helplessly in the direction of something that I find destabilising to my cherished opinions. And I can't see any errors being made, and yet I don't like where I am being taken. I find that absolutely thrilling. I find those moments some of the best moments in intellectual life.
www.samharris.org/podcast/item/ask-me-anything-2
[Relevant question starting at 36:56, and listening recommended until around 48:45.]
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What is it we'll be thinking about when you and I are lying on our deathbeds โ whether in three years' time after an unexpected diagnosis of pancreatic cancer, or in 50 years at a ripe old age?
As we look back at the short, precious lives we were lucky enough to have, what will go through our minds?
My guess is that it won't be any of the following:
1. "I wish I had had less sex / fewer intimate relationships."
2. "I wish I had been more sedentary and had a less active life."
3. "I wish I had been less curious, less eager to explore and experience new things."
4. "I wish I had done less travelling."
5. "I wish I had gone to fewer museums, exhibitions, festivals and concerts."
6. "I wish I had been more scared of change, and of the unknown."
7. "I wish I had allowed myself to be paralysed by the fear of failure."
8. "I wish I had taken fewer risks and remained in my comfort zone."
9. "I wish I had procrastinated more, or waited indefinitely for that illusory perfect time."
10. "I wish I had stayed longer at my old job, which didn't make me happy but gave me a reliable paycheque at the end of each month. That was better than me taking a big gamble and trying something different, like starting out on my own or finding another job I was more passionate about."
11. "I wish I hadn't bothered going to university."
12. "I wish I hadn't read so many books."
13. "I wish I had spent more time on internet message boards, or watched more television, or played more video games."
14. "I wish I had donated less of my time and money to charity and to helping others."
15. "I wish I had been less honest with people."
16. "I wish I had been less true to myself, and conformed more to the expectations of others."
17. "I wish my life had been a mediocre one, or more ordinary and less eventful."
18. "I wish I had been more afraid of making a fool of myself. I should never have been the first person to start dancing to Santigold with that shirtless guy at the Sasquatch! Music Festival in 2009."
19. "I wish I had spent less time with my family and friends."
20. "I wish I had not laughed as much or had as much fun."
In case the above predictions turn out to be completely wrong, feel free to give me a ring, come the relevant time. If I'm still here to answer the phone, I'll offer you a genuine apology.
Could you expand on the lifestyle changes please ed I'd gotten into a rut of eating really bad food, not doing anything to challenge myself or my thought processes and tbh just spent a sh load of time sitting on my ass watching rubbish TV. I'd been working part time for about 9 months and was struggling to find the motivation to return to full time. Almost every subject in this competition tapped into something i knew i needed to focus on or was a catalyst for increased motivation. To be candid, I'd been pretty down for the last three years or so and this month has been one of the happiest in recent times. Devoting time to this...Even the process of just sitting, listening to these talks and spending time mulling them over...Seems to of snapped me out of something. Hope this isn't over share! Wonderful to read. Thank you for posting. The ability of ideas to challenge, inspire and galvanise is quite extraordinary, isn't it? A comment made by Sam Harris about ideas and reasoning (during one of his 'Ask Me Anything' sessions, podcast #24) struck a chord with me last year: I find it thrilling when someone raises a point that I find I'm uncomfortable with, and I'm being led helplessly in the direction of something that I find destabilising to my cherished opinions. And I can't see any errors being made, and yet I don't like where I am being taken. I find that absolutely thrilling. I find those moments some of the best moments in intellectual life.www.samharris.org/podcast/item/ask-me-anything-2[Relevant question starting at 36:56, and listening recommended until around 48:45.] _______________ What is it we'll be thinking about when you and I are lying on our deathbeds โ whether in three years' time after an unexpected diagnosis of pancreatic cancer, or in 50 years at a ripe old age? As we look back at the short, precious lives we were lucky enough to have, what will go through our minds? My guess is that it won't be any of the following: 1. "I wish I had had less sex / fewer intimate relationships." 2. "I wish I had been more sedentary and had a less active life." 3. "I wish I had been less curious, less eager to explore and experience new things." 4. "I wish I had done less travelling." 5. "I wish I had gone to fewer museums, exhibitions, festivals and concerts." 6. "I wish I had been more scared of change, and of the unknown." 7. "I wish I had allowed myself to be paralysed by the fear of failure." 8. "I wish I had taken fewer risks and remained in my comfort zone." 9. "I wish I had procrastinated more, or waited indefinitely for that illusory perfect time." 10. "I wish I had stayed longer at my old job, which didn't make me happy but gave me a reliable paycheque at the end of each month. That was better than me taking a big gamble and trying something different, like starting out on my own or finding another job I was more passionate about." 11. "I wish I hadn't bothered going to university." 12. "I wish I hadn't read so many books." 13. "I wish I had spent more time on internet message boards, or watched more television, or played more video games." 14. "I wish I had donated less of my time and money to charity and to helping others." 15. "I wish I had been less honest with people." 16. "I wish I had been less true to myself, and conformed more to the expectations of others." 17. "I wish my life had been a mediocre one, or more ordinary and less eventful." 18. "I wish I had been more afraid of making a fool of myself. I should never have been the first person to start dancing to Santigold with that shirtless guy at the Sasquatch! Music Festival in 2009." 19. "I wish I had spent less time with my family and friends." 20. "I wish I had not laughed as much or had as much fun." In case the abo ve predictions turn out to be completely wrong, feel free to give me a ring, come the relevant time. If I'm still here to answer the phone, I'll offer you a genuine apology. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Apr 4, 2017 2:16:50 GMT 1, Congratulations ed well done you deserve it. Yes, what a marathon competition that was! I really enjoyed it because I didn't think I had any competitive nature left in me, but it's still there. Thank you met for all your hard work you have put into this, it is much appreciated. There are plenty of links and other references in this thread still to keep me looking back and going over again. I have loved the journey, the topics covered, re-organising my social life and battling with faulty internet and battling with ed For a while I have been considering to go back and study Psychology in September and by doing this, getting my brain engaged again, has given me a kick up the ass to do it, so thank you.
It was a pleasure to read this.
If you're in a position to make the commitment come September, I'd very much encourage you to do so.
One purpose of this game was to shine a light on random subject matters โ especially the ones pushing us to question more, consider other perspectives, and argue more persuasively. Maybe even to think differently. But if the videos also manage to serve as an impetus to act, how great is that? And who could ask for more?
Whenever I hear of someone returning to higher education, I'm always impressed and delighted for them. They immediately soar in my estimation because it's so difficult: mentally, physically, organisationally, financially... That's especially the case after having been a long-term wage-slave and grown accustomed to a certain standard of living. Radical lifestyle adjustments aren't for everybody.
A close friend of mine went back to university last year to do a graduate degree in epidemiology (the same subject as Alice Stewart, referred to in Margaret Heffernan's TED Talk). She's a 41-year-old nurse. So already there was a psychological hurdle to overcome โ a "What am I doing here?" type of uncertainty, and the fear of having perhaps regressed because most of her fellow students were still in their twenties.
Since the beginning of the academic year, attrition has led her class size to drop from 15 students to 9 โ the less resolute (and those unable to successfully juggle with family or work commitments) quitting mainly due to the demands of the course, including the amount of required preparation reading.
My friend finds it exhausting (a different kind of exhaustion to working 8- or 10-hour shifts in a high-pressure department of the NHS). And also very rewarding. Thus far, she's happy with her decision to take a big risk and leap into the unknown.
Congratulations ed well done you deserve it. Yes, what a marathon competition that was! I really enjoyed it because I didn't think I had any competitive nature left in me, but it's still there. Thank you met for all your hard work you have put into this, it is much appreciated. There are plenty of links and other references in this thread still to keep me looking back and going over again. I have loved the journey, the topics covered, re-organising my social life and battling with faulty internet and battling with ed For a while I have been considering to go back and study Psychology in September and by doing this, getting my brain engaged again, has given me a kick up the ass to do it, so thank you.It was a pleasure to read this. If you're in a position to make the commitment come September, I'd very much encourage you to do so. One purpose of this game was to shine a light on random subject matters โ especially the ones pushing us to question more, consider other perspectives, and argue more persuasively. Maybe even to think differently. But if the videos also manage to serve as an impetus to act, how great is that? And who could ask for more? Whenever I hear of someone returning to higher education, I'm always impressed and delighted for them. They immediately soar in my estimation because it's so difficult: mentally, physically, organisationally, financially... That's especially the case after having been a long-term wage-slave and grown accustomed to a certain standard of living. Radical lifestyle adjustments aren't for everybody. A close friend of mine went back to university last year to do a graduate degree in epidemiology (the same subject as Alice Stewart, referred to in Margaret Heffernan's TED Talk). She's a 41-year-old nurse. So already there was a psychological hurdle to overcome โ a "What am I doing here?" type of uncertainty, and the fear of having perhaps regressed because most of her fellow students were still in their twenties. Since the beginning of the academic year, attrition has led her class size to drop from 15 students to 9 โ the less resolute (and those unable to successfully juggle with family or work commitments) quitting mainly due to the demands of the course, including the amount of required preparation reading. My friend finds it exhausting (a different kind of exhaustion to working 8- or 10-hour shifts in a high-pressure department of the NHS). And also very rewarding. Thus far, she's happy with her decision to take a big risk and leap into the unknown. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by ed on Apr 5, 2017 19:08:33 GMT 1, Drum roll.......
I had hoped that whoever won this competition would post a pic of the prizes, so here it is.
Just a couple of books, a sticker and a box.
(I couldn't fit the speedboat in the picture, apologies)
I've said thank you privately and I would like to again publicly. met thank you not only for these thoughtful and generous gifts (i was girding my loins for a cup of London air as the prize) but also the thought and generosity of your time in setting up this whole lottery.
I'd encourage people who're perhaps reading this thread for the first time or never got involved to flick back through and play a few vids. My eyes have been opened to podcasts and parts of YouTube i tended to avoid and i love it. Mind expanded.
Drum roll....... I had hoped that whoever won this competition would post a pic of the prizes, so here it is. Just a couple of books, a sticker and a box. (I couldn't fit the speedboat in the picture, apologies) I've said thank you privately and I would like to again publicly. met thank you not only for these thoughtful and generous gifts (i was girding my loins for a cup of London air as the prize) but also the thought and generosity of your time in setting up this whole lottery. I'd encourage people who're perhaps reading this thread for the first time or never got involved to flick back through and play a few vids. My eyes have been opened to podcasts and parts of YouTube i tended to avoid and i love it. Mind expanded. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Jul 21, 2017 18:50:35 GMT 1,
Cheers for the tip. Sadly, by the time I checked the website, the above event had long sold out. And when I rang Intelligence Squared, they confirmed the waiting list for returns was already too lengthy for any real chance of securing a ticket on the day.
At least the discussion was filmed. I'll watch it on YouTube at some point in the next week:
Malala Yousafzai is a heroine for me, so I look forward to hearing what she had to say.
For a number of reasons, I've no interest in Facebook, other than as a socio-cultural phenomenon. As with social media more generally, it's viewed by me with suspicion. That said, I am interested in the subject of women who are successful in business, and have a lot of time for Sheryl Sandberg. The candour and courage she demonstrated following the sudden loss of her husband was impressive.
Brief anecdote: A close friend at McKinsey & Company told me Sandberg once gave a talk to the partnership there, starting off by requesting all the women in the room to raise their hands. The number of hands that went up corresponded to about 10% of the audience. Next, she asked the women to remember their performance reviews prior to achieving partnership, and to indicate if they'd ever been referred to as "bossy" or in an equivalent way. The same number of hands went up again.
Sandberg then asked the male partners to indicate if they'd ever been described in such terms. And not one hand was raised. In their own past performance reviews, the men had been characterised quite differently โ as "ambitious", "driven", "achievement-oriented", etc.
Male/female percentages aside, this was a basic but effective illustration of the culture of casual sexism that women often encounter in the business workplace.
Cheers for the tip. Sadly, by the time I checked the website, the above event had long sold out. And when I rang Intelligence Squared, they confirmed the waiting list for returns was already too lengthy for any real chance of securing a ticket on the day. At least the discussion was filmed. I'll watch it on YouTube at some point in the next week: Malala Yousafzai is a heroine for me, so I look forward to hearing what she had to say. For a number of reasons, I've no interest in Facebook, other than as a socio-cultural phenomenon. As with social media more generally, it's viewed by me with suspicion. That said, I am interested in the subject of women who are successful in business, and have a lot of time for Sheryl Sandberg. The candour and courage she demonstrated following the sudden loss of her husband was impressive. Brief anecdote: A close friend at McKinsey & Company told me Sandberg once gave a talk to the partnership there, starting off by requesting all the women in the room to raise their hands. The number of hands that went up corresponded to about 10% of the audience. Next, she asked the women to remember their performance reviews prior to achieving partnership, and to indicate if they'd ever been referred to as "bossy" or in an equivalent way. The same number of hands went up again. Sandberg then asked the male partners to indicate if they'd ever been described in such terms. And not one hand was raised. In their own past performance reviews, the men had been characterised quite differently โ as "ambitious", "driven", "achievement-oriented", etc. Male/female percentages aside, this was a basic but effective illustration of the culture of casual sexism that women often encounter in the business workplace. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Jul 21, 2017 19:08:57 GMT 1, THE MET LOTTERY*UPDATE: A CHANGE OF PLAN*PART I: MARATHON and PART II: HAT TIP were previously two constituents of the same lottery for a single prize. This has been revised. Both parts will now be standalone, each with its own lottery and its own prize. 1. PART I still ends on Friday, 31 March 2017, when details of the lottery draw determining the prize winner will also be published. The lottery winner for PART I will still be announced on Saturday, 1 April 2017. The PART I prize remains the original prize referred to in point 13 of the Game Format and Rules. What the change means in practice is that competition winners have just seen their chances improve of ending up with the lottery-draw number. 2. PART II has been pushed back. Details of PART II โ along with details of the separate lottery draw determining that prize winner โ will now be published in late April. The PART II prize will be different and of a secondary nature (the idea being to place greater emphasis on PART I).
Apologies for the extended delay with PART II.
Due to procrastination and random distractions, details which should have been published "in late April" will instead be released later this summer.
THE MET LOTTERY*UPDATE: A CHANGE OF PLAN*PART I: MARATHON and PART II: HAT TIP were previously two constituents of the same lottery for a single prize. This has been revised. Both parts will now be standalone, each with its own lottery and its own prize. 1. PART I still ends on Friday, 31 March 2017, when details of the lottery draw determining the prize winner will also be published. The lottery winner for PART I will still be announced on Saturday, 1 April 2017. The PART I prize remains the original prize referred to in point 13 of the Game Format and Rules. What the change means in practice is that competition winners have just seen their chances improve of ending up with the lottery-draw number. 2. PART II has been pushed back. Details of PART II โ along with details of the separate lottery draw determining that prize winner โ will now be published in late April. The PART II prize will be different and of a secondary nature (the idea being to place greater emphasis on PART I). Apologies for the extended delay with PART II. Due to procrastination and random distractions, details which should have been published "in late April" will instead be released later this summer. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 16, 2017 15:24:22 GMT 1,
The podcast below could have been added to the RECOMMENDED TALKS, DISCUSSIONS & INTERVIEWS thread.
An advantage of placing it here is that it eases my conscience about ongoing delays with the second part of the lottery.
Waking Up With Sam Harris #82 - The End of the World According to ISIS (with Graeme Wood) (15 June 2017) [1:45:55]
In this episode of the Waking Up podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Graeme Wood about his experience reporting on ISIS, the myth of online recruitment, the theology of ISIS, the quality of its propaganda, the most important American recruit to the organization, the roles of Jesus and the Anti-Christ in Islamic prophecy, free speech and the ongoing threat of jihadism, and other topics.
Graeme Wood is a national correspondent for The Atlantic. He has written for The New Yorker, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and many other publications. He was the 2014โ2015 Edward R. Murrow Press Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, and he teaches in the political science department at Yale University. He is the author of The Way of the Strangers: Encounters with the Islamic State.
For members who are interested but don't have time to listen to the entire podcast, one part of the exchange I found consequential relates to issues surrounding the foundations for ISIS beliefs and actions, from 30:08 to 52:32.
The podcast below could have been added to the RECOMMENDED TALKS, DISCUSSIONS & INTERVIEWS thread. An advantage of placing it here is that it eases my conscience about ongoing delays with the second part of the lottery. Waking Up With Sam Harris #82 - The End of the World According to ISIS (with Graeme Wood) (15 June 2017) [1:45:55] In this episode of the Waking Up podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Graeme Wood about his experience reporting on ISIS, the myth of online recruitment, the theology of ISIS, the quality of its propaganda, the most important American recruit to the organization, the roles of Jesus and the Anti-Christ in Islamic prophecy, free speech and the ongoing threat of jihadism, and other topics.
Graeme Wood is a national correspondent for The Atlantic. He has written for The New Yorker, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and many other publications. He was the 2014โ2015 Edward R. Murrow Press Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, and he teaches in the political science department at Yale University. He is the author of The Way of the Strangers: Encounters with the Islamic State.For members who are interested but don't have time to listen to the entire podcast, one part of the exchange I found consequential relates to issues surrounding the foundations for ISIS beliefs and actions, from 30:08 to 52:32. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 17, 2017 18:54:17 GMT 1,
Dr. Michelle Thaller, astronomer and Assistant Director of Science for Communications at NASA, was a speaker at the Conference on World Affairs at the University of Colorado Boulder in April 2015.
She gave a number of talks at the event. The subject for this panel session was Anti-science: Denial in the Face of Facts.
Thaller covers the hurdles she faces in effectively communicating scientific information. This includes rhetorical challenges, as well as resistance by the media which prioritises entertainment and ad revenues over factual accuracy. Engaging and rather depressing.
Michelle Thaller on Science Denial (8 April 2015) [11:29]
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Dr. Michelle Thaller, astronomer and Assistant Director of Science for Communications at NASA, was a speaker at the Conference on World Affairs at the University of Colorado Boulder in April 2015. She gave a number of talks at the event. The subject for this panel session was Anti-science: Denial in the Face of Facts. Thaller covers the hurdles she faces in effectively communicating scientific information. This includes rhetorical challenges, as well as resistance by the media which prioritises entertainment and ad revenues over factual accuracy. Engaging and rather depressing. Michelle Thaller on Science Denial (8 April 2015) [11:29] โ uploaded by ScienceNET
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THE MET LOTTERY, by avec art on Aug 17, 2017 20:31:32 GMT 1, This might be a little low brow, and perhaps is even straying into psudo science. But it's the second time in two days I've come across the Grace twin satallites, so I thought I'd share.
This might be a little low brow, and perhaps is even straying into psudo science. But it's the second time in two days I've come across the Grace twin satallites, so I thought I'd share.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 23, 2017 15:04:15 GMT 1,
Here is one of four talks given in Sydney in 2015 at The Centre for Independent Studies Big Ideas Forum.
The conference topic was, Why "Grievance Feminism" is a Threat to Serious Feminist & Humanitarian Issues.
Note that the substance of what's said by journalist Dr. Janet Albrechtsen is a little stronger than her delivery. Communication effectiveness is partly lost because she walks through ideas and insights too quickly for them to be fully absorbed by first-time listeners. With this talk, I found there was benefit in listening to it twice.
Janet Albrechtsen - Grievance Feminism is a Threat to Serious Feminist & Humanitarian Issues (24 August 2015) [14:09]
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Here is one of four talks given in Sydney in 2015 at The Centre for Independent Studies Big Ideas Forum. The conference topic was, Why "Grievance Feminism" is a Threat to Serious Feminist & Humanitarian Issues. Note that the substance of what's said by journalist Dr. Janet Albrechtsen is a little stronger than her delivery. Communication effectiveness is partly lost because she walks through ideas and insights too quickly for them to be fully absorbed by first-time listeners. With this talk, I found there was benefit in listening to it twice. Janet Albrechtsen - Grievance Feminism is a Threat to Serious Feminist & Humanitarian Issues (24 August 2015) [14:09] โ uploaded by CISAus |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Sept 3, 2017 18:35:02 GMT 1,
In Competition 8, I posted a recommended talk by Sarah Haider, co-founder of Ex-Muslims of North America. To my mind, she and a handful of others epitomise non-military heroism today.
Given I'd be slightly anxious if a family member were even in the same room as Haider, it's difficult for me to appreciate what she herself must go through on a daily basis. By way of random comparison, trying to keep your identity hidden while working as a famous yet anonymous street artist would make any person of sentience a little paranoid. But imagine being an apostate from Islam โ one who chooses to not remain in the closet, and instead to publicly debate and challenge tenets of their former religion.
Freedom of speech along with freedom of thought, conscience and religion are often taken for granted by the West. So if anyone needs a reminder of the ongoing threat to these human rights in our democratic societies, then the front line is with writers, cartoonists and film-makers who question, provoke and enlighten. It is with activists like Haider. And with reformers like Maajid Nawaz seeking to empower moderate Muslim voices. I trust that my preachy tone in making the point will be forgiven.
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Of particular interest to me in Sarah Haider's discussion with Sam Harris below was the security precautions her organisation has to take, and the minor differences in views between her and Harris.
Listeners can also hear Shepard Fairey being mentioned in relation to his We The People design featuring Munira Ahmed wearing an American-flag hijab.
A strong lead-in to the Fairey reference begins at 22:23, during an exchange about the particular circumstances of ex-Muslims. For those with less time, start at 26:44 (which cites Linda Sarsour and deals specifically with the hijab in the context of women's rights) and continue until 31:48.
Waking Up With Sam Harris #81 - Leaving Islam (with Sarah Haider) (10 June 2017) [1:46:00]
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In this episode of the Waking Up podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Sarah Haider about her organization Ex-Muslims of North America, how the political Left is confused about Islam, โrape cultureโ under Islam, honesty without bigotry, stealth theocracy, immigration, the prospects of reforming Islam, and other topics.
Sarah Haider is the co-founder of the Ex-Muslims of North America.
In Competition 8, I posted a recommended talk by Sarah Haider, co-founder of Ex-Muslims of North America. To my mind, she and a handful of others epitomise non-military heroism today. Given I'd be slightly anxious if a family member were even in the same room as Haider, it's difficult for me to appreciate what she herself must go through on a daily basis. By way of random comparison, trying to keep your identity hidden while working as a famous yet anonymous street artist would make any person of sentience a little paranoid. But imagine being an apostate from Islam โ one who chooses to not remain in the closet, and instead to publicly debate and challenge tenets of their former religion. Freedom of speech along with freedom of thought, conscience and religion are often taken for granted by the West. So if anyone needs a reminder of the ongoing threat to these human rights in our democratic societies, then the front line is with writers, cartoonists and film-makers who question, provoke and enlighten. It is with activists like Haider. And with reformers like Maajid Nawaz seeking to empower moderate Muslim voices. I trust that my preachy tone in making the point will be forgiven. ____________ Of particular interest to me in Sarah Haider's discussion with Sam Harris below was the security precautions her organisation has to take, and the minor differences in views between her and Harris. Listeners can also hear Shepard Fairey being mentioned in relation to his We The People design featuring Munira Ahmed wearing an American-flag hijab. A strong lead-in to the Fai rey reference begins at 22:23, during an exchange about the particular circumstances of ex-Muslims. For those with less time, start at 26:44 (which cites Linda Sarsour and deals specifically with the hijab in the context of women's rights) and continue until 31:48. Waking Up With Sam Harris #81 - Leaving Islam (with Sarah Haider) (10 June 2017) [1:46:00] โ uploaded by Sam HarrisIn this episode of the Waking Up podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Sarah Haider about her organization Ex-Muslims of North America, how the political Left is confused about Islam, โrape cultureโ under Islam, honesty without bigotry, stealth theocracy, immigration, the prospects of reforming Islam, and other topics.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Sept 5, 2017 16:56:43 GMT 1,
Any fans here of the private non-profit company, C-SPAN (Cable-Satellite Public Affairs Network)?
In my view, this television network is an American treasure. Understated, no-advertising, public-service broadcasting at its best.
The newspaper-roundtable feature below is from the programme, Washington Journal โ hosted by Brian Lamb (then CEO of C-SPAN), with guests Christopher Hitchens and Wesley Pruden (then editor-in-chief of The Washington Times).
It was broadcast 20 years ago today, on 5 September 1997, following the death of Diana Spencer. As Hitchens puts it so vividly, we were "drowning in drool" that week. A significant part of the population, encouraged and indulged by the mainstream media, went from stiff upper lip to what I would describe as emotional incontinence. In the UK, Private Eye magazine was the bastion of sanity, one of the few organisations that retained a sense of proportion.
Apologies for the sound, which is at times a bit choppy.
Christopher Hitchens on Diana, Princess of Wales, the Royal Family, Dodi Fayed & Muslim Law (1997) (5 September 1997) [59:19]
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For members who lack the patience, I would nevertheless recommend the excerpt from 35:06 until 43:53.
Viewer call-ins on C-SPAN are usually a highlight for me, especially the unpredictable nature of these live-air interactions. Unsurprisingly, a couple of callers were upset by comments made by Hitchens and Pruden earlier in the programme.
Any fans here of the private non-profit company, C-SPAN (Cable-Satellite Public Affairs Network)? In my view, this television network is an American treasure. Understated, no-advertising, public-service broadcasting at its best. The newspaper-roundtable feature below is from the programme, Washington Journal โ hosted by Brian Lamb (then CEO of C-SPAN), with guests Christopher Hitchens and Wesley Pruden (then editor-in-chief of The Washington Times). It was broadcast 20 years ago today, on 5 September 1997, following the death of Diana Spencer. As Hitchens puts it so vividly, we were "drowning in drool" that week. A significant part of the population, encouraged and indulged by the mainstream media, went from stiff upper lip to what I would describe as emotional incontinence. In the UK, Private Eye magazine was the bastion of sanity, one of the few organisations that retained a sense of proportion. Apologies for the sound, which is at times a bit choppy. Christopher Hitchens on Diana, Princess of Wales, the Royal Family, Dodi Fayed & Muslim Law (1997) (5 September 1997) [59:19] - uploaded by The Film ArchivesFor members who lack the patience, I would nevertheless recommend the excerpt from 35:06 until 43:53. Viewer call-ins on C-SPAN are usually a highlight for me, especially the unpredictable nature of these live-air interactions. Unsurprisingly, a couple of callers were upset by comments made by Hitchens and Pruden earlier in the programme. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Sept 6, 2017 16:04:55 GMT 1,
Diana: The Mourning After, presented by Christopher Hitchens, was first broadcast on Channel 4 (UK) in August 1998.
Diana: The Mourning After (Princess Diana Documentary) - Real Stories [50:13]
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โWhere was I when I heard the ghastly news? Who cares?โ So says presenter Christopher Hitchens of the death of Diana, Princess of Wales. On 31st August 1997 Britain appeared to be a nation united in grief at the death of the most famous woman in the world. But for her lavish funeral, just one week later, 41 per cent of the nationโs television sets were switched off; their owners apparently disgusted by the sentimentality and hysteria of the previous week. Hitchens goes in search of these other Britains who risked disapproval by seeming to be unmoved by the death of a woman they did not know. Sceptical, witty and observant, Hitchens also ticks off the paparazzi, citing the extraordinary hypocrisy of columnists who criticised her one week and wrote gushingly of her the next.
Diana: The Mourning After, presented by Christopher Hitchens, was first broadcast on Channel 4 (UK) in August 1998.
Diana: The Mourning After (Princess Diana Documentary) - Real Stories [50:13]
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โWhere was I when I heard the ghastly news? Who cares?โ So says presenter Christopher Hitchens of the death of Diana, Princess of Wales. On 31st August 1997 Britain appeared to be a nation united in grief at the death of the most famous woman in the world. But for her lavish funeral, just one week later, 41 per cent of the nationโs television sets were switched off; their owners apparently disgusted by the sentimentality and hysteria of the previous week. Hitchens goes in search of these other Britains who risked disapproval by seeming to be unmoved by the death of a woman they did not know. Sceptical, witty and observant, Hitchens also ticks off the paparazzi, citing the extraordinary hypocrisy of columnists who criticised her one week and wrote gushingly of her the next.
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i hope whoever wins posts whatever the hell this prize is! 
