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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Daniel Silk on Jan 10, 2017 5:18:56 GMT 1, What reason do you think Artists produce Limited Edition print runs?
Artists try to make a living at selling their Art, and to do that they need to increase the values of their work by carefully controlling the levels of art released against the demand. When Banksy releases a limited edition print run, he knows the edition can be in the high hundreds or even over a thousand, and the demand will be high enough that the value will stay strong after. Other Artists judge the market and release limited editions of 10-30 as they know the after sales values will be high and that is good for increasing the sale price of their future releases.
If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price.
What do you think?
Do you know any examples of Artists who release most or all of their work at cheap prices and in unlimited print runs?
What reason do you think Artists produce Limited Edition print runs?
Artists try to make a living at selling their Art, and to do that they need to increase the values of their work by carefully controlling the levels of art released against the demand. When Banksy releases a limited edition print run, he knows the edition can be in the high hundreds or even over a thousand, and the demand will be high enough that the value will stay strong after. Other Artists judge the market and release limited editions of 10-30 as they know the after sales values will be high and that is good for increasing the sale price of their future releases.
If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price.
What do you think?
Do you know any examples of Artists who release most or all of their work at cheap prices and in unlimited print runs?
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by barryh on Jan 10, 2017 9:19:43 GMT 1, This is probably one of the most bizarre threads I've ever seen  .
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Daniel Silk on Jan 10, 2017 9:29:58 GMT 1, This is probably one of the most bizarre threads I've ever seen . 
This is probably one of the most bizarre threads I've ever seen . |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by kember on Jan 10, 2017 9:41:51 GMT 1, There's many reasons artists release limited runs.
Quality for one, it's not cost effective to release an open edition screen print, most open editions are litho, and an open edition litho devalues the original artwork, 'fine' artists make most of their money selling originals, not necessarily prints. The Urban Art scene has attracted a much broader spectrum of interest (from working class Brits through to Hollywood celebrity) so what people can afford has been catered to much more as well.
The more successful artists can afford to price their prints higher and have the runs lower because they've found their market value.
Banksy doesn't need the money.
There's many reasons artists release limited runs.
Quality for one, it's not cost effective to release an open edition screen print, most open editions are litho, and an open edition litho devalues the original artwork, 'fine' artists make most of their money selling originals, not necessarily prints. The Urban Art scene has attracted a much broader spectrum of interest (from working class Brits through to Hollywood celebrity) so what people can afford has been catered to much more as well.
The more successful artists can afford to price their prints higher and have the runs lower because they've found their market value.
Banksy doesn't need the money.
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by barryh on Jan 10, 2017 9:54:10 GMT 1,
If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price.
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That was the confusing bit. I guess 99% of artists still need to find a way of putting food on the table
This is probably one of the most bizarre threads I've ever seen .
If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price. ^^ That was the confusing bit. I guess 99% of artists still need to find a way of putting food on the table This is probably one of the most bizarre threads I've ever seen . |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Daniel Silk on Jan 10, 2017 10:58:16 GMT 1, If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price. ^^ That was the confusing bit. I guess 99% of artists still need to find a way of putting food on the table
But a feeling from many people around the scene is that most Artists just release art purely as an expression with no interest in monetary gain or furthering their own fame.
If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price. ^^ That was the confusing bit. I guess 99% of artists still need to find a way of putting food on the table Exactly:) But a feeling from many people around the scene is that most Artists just release art purely as an expression with no interest in monetary gain or furthering their own fame. |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Happy Shopper on Jan 10, 2017 11:29:40 GMT 1, Some artists are genuinely interested in the techniques of print making, as an extension of their art.
But it also functions as a marketing tool, to increase awareness of their work.
It's interesting sometimes to see large editions selling for more than small editions by the same artist. I believe that is because the more people talk about something, the more other people want to join in.
For example, when Bast releases an edition of 8, those 8 buyers don't make a big noise, but Whatson releasing an edition of 200 gives 200 people a reason to post their excitement.
Some artists are genuinely interested in the techniques of print making, as an extension of their art.
But it also functions as a marketing tool, to increase awareness of their work.
It's interesting sometimes to see large editions selling for more than small editions by the same artist. I believe that is because the more people talk about something, the more other people want to join in.
For example, when Bast releases an edition of 8, those 8 buyers don't make a big noise, but Whatson releasing an edition of 200 gives 200 people a reason to post their excitement.
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Daniel Silk on Jan 10, 2017 11:37:52 GMT 1, Some artists are genuinely interested in the techniques of print making, as an extension of their art. But it also functions as a marketing tool, to increase awareness of their work. It's interesting sometimes to see large editions selling for more than small editions by the same artist. I believe that is because the more people talk about something, the more other people want to join in. For example, when Bast releases an edition of 8, those 8 buyers don't make a big noise, but Whatson releasing an edition of 200 gives 200 people a reason to post their excitement.
The momentum behind a big edition seems to generate more buyers, and in the future more people who will support/hype the artist on social media to protect their investment.
Some artists are genuinely interested in the techniques of print making, as an extension of their art. But it also functions as a marketing tool, to increase awareness of their work. It's interesting sometimes to see large editions selling for more than small editions by the same artist. I believe that is because the more people talk about something, the more other people want to join in. For example, when Bast releases an edition of 8, those 8 buyers don't make a big noise, but Whatson releasing an edition of 200 gives 200 people a reason to post their excitement. Yeah, that's an interesting one The momentum behind a big edition seems to generate more buyers, and in the future more people who will support/hype the artist on social media to protect their investment. |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Viking Surfer on Jan 10, 2017 12:51:50 GMT 1, Limited is important as it establishes value.
When people ask me how prints are worth money, I normally explain it a little like this...
Lets say I create a picture of a cat and it's awesome, so I decide to make some screen prints. Lets say I create 50 screen prints of it but my cat print is super awesome and 100 people want it, no drama, I'll print 50 more.
Lets say it makes the local news as Beyonce has one of my cat drawings and a thousand people then want it, no problem, i'll print off another 900.
Let's say however, that the 50 I made originally were all signed and numbered (and I'm not pulling an AP, PP stunts) then if anybody else wants it, then they have to buy it from one of the original collectors (although I doubt they would sell because my cats prints are amazing).
This is what creates demand = value.
For lesser artists, if your first print sells out quick, there's a good chance that your second will too. Although hype will only take an artist so far...
Also, less known artists might not want to run the risk of a large print run and the financial burden they could encounter if it doesn't sell out. Smaller editions = more exclusivity and building a core fan base.
Limited is important as it establishes value.
When people ask me how prints are worth money, I normally explain it a little like this...
Lets say I create a picture of a cat and it's awesome, so I decide to make some screen prints. Lets say I create 50 screen prints of it but my cat print is super awesome and 100 people want it, no drama, I'll print 50 more.
Lets say it makes the local news as Beyonce has one of my cat drawings and a thousand people then want it, no problem, i'll print off another 900.
Let's say however, that the 50 I made originally were all signed and numbered (and I'm not pulling an AP, PP stunts) then if anybody else wants it, then they have to buy it from one of the original collectors (although I doubt they would sell because my cats prints are amazing).
This is what creates demand = value.
For lesser artists, if your first print sells out quick, there's a good chance that your second will too. Although hype will only take an artist so far...
Also, less known artists might not want to run the risk of a large print run and the financial burden they could encounter if it doesn't sell out. Smaller editions = more exclusivity and building a core fan base.
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Hairbland on Jan 10, 2017 13:52:49 GMT 1, If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price. ^^ That was the confusing bit. I guess 99% of artists still need to find a way of putting food on the tableย Exactly:) But a feeling from many people around the scene is that most Artists just release art purely as an expression with no interest in monetary gain or furthering their own fame.
If that is what people around the scene think they are quite naive.
Stephen Keene has priced his paintings generally from $1 to $10 with the idea of making a million $ by painting thousands upon thousands of paintings, and has achieved some fame.
If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price. ^^ That was the confusing bit. I guess 99% of artists still need to find a way of putting food on the tableย Exactly:) But a feeling from many people around the scene is that most Artists just release art purely as an expression with no interest in monetary gain or furthering their own fame. If that is what people around the scene think they are quite naive. Stephen Keene has priced his paintings generally from $1 to $10 with the idea of making a million $ by painting thousands upon thousands of paintings, and has achieved some fame. |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Urban Germany on Jan 10, 2017 14:13:30 GMT 1, I do limited editions of 30 and large Orginals in 3 or 5. I keep my Editon's low so it's more exclusive and limited to customers www.mrslyart.artweb.com
One question mate. Your art is printed, right?
What is the difference between your printed edition and printed original? ...the dimension ?
I do limited editions of 30 and large Orginals in 3 or 5. I keep my Editon's low so it's more exclusive and limited to customers www.mrslyart.artweb.comOne question mate. Your art is printed, right? What is the difference between your printed edition and printed original? ...the dimension ? |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 17:10:42 GMT 1, Limited is important as it establishes value. When people ask me how prints are worth money, I normally explain it a little like this... Lets say I create a picture of a cat and it's awesome, so I decide to make some screen prints. Lets say I create 50 screen prints of it but my cat print is super awesome and 100 people want it, no drama, I'll print 50 more. Lets say it makes the local news as Beyonce has one of my cat drawings and a thousand people then want it, no problem, i'll print off another 900. Let's say however, that the 50 I made originally were all signed and numbered (and I'm not pulling an AP, PP stunts) then if anybody else wants it, then they have to buy it from one of the original collectors (although I doubt they would sell because my cats prints are amazing). This is what creates demand = value. For lesser artists, if your first print sells out quick, there's a good chance that your second will too. Although hype will only take an artist so far... Also, less known artists might not want to run the risk of a large print run and the financial burden they could encounter if it doesn't sell out. Smaller editions = more exclusivity and building a core fan base.
Thats basically how it works. Supply and demand and current market levels.
Bricks and mortar galleries have their artists that they look after and sell, building up a reputation and a client list.
It seems that a lot of art prints released by urban artists via online platforms etc are priced at top level (for their art) gallery retail prices.
Limited is important as it establishes value. When people ask me how prints are worth money, I normally explain it a little like this... Lets say I create a picture of a cat and it's awesome, so I decide to make some screen prints. Lets say I create 50 screen prints of it but my cat print is super awesome and 100 people want it, no drama, I'll print 50 more. Lets say it makes the local news as Beyonce has one of my cat drawings and a thousand people then want it, no problem, i'll print off another 900. Let's say however, that the 50 I made originally were all signed and numbered (and I'm not pulling an AP, PP stunts) then if anybody else wants it, then they have to buy it from one of the original collectors (although I doubt they would sell because my cats prints are amazing). This is what creates demand = value. For lesser artists, if your first print sells out quick, there's a good chance that your second will too. Although hype will only take an artist so far... Also, less known artists might not want to run the risk of a large print run and the financial burden they could encounter if it doesn't sell out. Smaller editions = more exclusivity and building a core fan base. Thats basically how it works. Supply and demand and current market levels. Bricks and mortar galleries have their artists that they look after and sell, building up a reputation and a client list. It seems that a lot of art prints released by urban artists via online platforms etc are priced at top level (for their art) gallery retail prices. |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 17:16:57 GMT 1, Exactly:) But a feeling from many people around the scene is that most Artists just release art purely as an expression with no interest in monetary gain or furthering their own fame. If that is what people around the scene think they are quite naive. Stephen Keene has priced his paintings generally from $1 to $10 with the idea of making a million $ by painting thousands upon thousands of paintings, and has achieved some fame.
He sells on ebay and there are a couple who do similar. Georgia Red Mud who got some good sales on the bay and also Chicken George Zupp who makes great art.
(There are a few gems on ebay sold by self representing artists and low priced.)
They are US based and easy to post to buyers in the US which is a huge market. For sellers in other countries, the idea of making low priced paintings is a good one but the postage costs are ridiculous when posting abroad.
Exactly:) But a feeling from many people around the scene is that most Artists just release art purely as an expression with no interest in monetary gain or furthering their own fame. If that is what people around the scene think they are quite naive. Stephen Keene has priced his paintings generally from $1 to $10 with the idea of making a million $ by painting thousands upon thousands of paintings, and has achieved some fame. I don't blame him. He sells on ebay and there are a couple who do similar. Georgia Red Mud who got some good sales on the bay and also Chicken George Zupp who makes great art. (There are a few gems on ebay sold by self representing artists and low priced.) They are US based and easy to post to buyers in the US which is a huge market. For sellers in other countries, the idea of making low priced paintings is a good one but the postage costs are ridiculous when posting abroad. |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 17:30:16 GMT 1, What reason do you think Artists produce Limited Edition print runs? Artists try to make a living at selling their Art, and to do that they need to increase the values of their work by carefully controlling the levels of art released against the demand. When Banksy releases a limited edition print run, he knows the edition can be in the high hundreds or even over a thousand, and the demand will be high enough that the value will stay strong after. Other Artists judge the market and release limited editions of 10-30 as they know the after sales values will be high and that is good for increasing the sale price of their future releases. If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price. What do you think? Do you know any examples of Artists who release most or all of their work at cheap prices and in unlimited print runs?
Ltd editions are a way for some artists and galleries to make a lot of money in sales. Far easier to sell an edition on paper by a fashionable or next big thing artists promoted by a gallery than go through all the hassle of selling an individual painting to a buyer who can't make up their mind if the money spent on one painting is worth the investment.
The mindset today seems to be on buyers being collectors building up portfolios of ltd editions with one eye on the artistic look and one eye on potential increase in value. Thats fine if the gallery that sells the art and the artists are doing it for the same reasons. With a long term rather than make a fast buck view.
I think most unknown or not promoted artists see themselves releasing ltd editions as a way of promoting their art wider and offering something affodable to collectors whilst at the same time bringing in a bit of extra money.
I see nothing wrong with producing prints in an unlimited manner if the demand is there and enough people want the print for their hoe sort of Vettriano style or whatever. Sold thru Walmart or some big department store or poster shop etc. Some artists have mad ehuge amounts of money by making art that is sold through these types of stores.
The big problem with producing and selling unlimited prints for low prices is the ridiculous postage costs involved. I was told that anything that is classed as merchandise sent from France has to be sent Colissimo and the post office told me they would refuse to let me send it normal post. So can't see someone in the States buying a print for $5 and paying $30 postage for it.
What reason do you think Artists produce Limited Edition print runs? Artists try to make a living at selling their Art, and to do that they need to increase the values of their work by carefully controlling the levels of art released against the demand. When Banksy releases a limited edition print run, he knows the edition can be in the high hundreds or even over a thousand, and the demand will be high enough that the value will stay strong after. Other Artists judge the market and release limited editions of 10-30 as they know the after sales values will be high and that is good for increasing the sale price of their future releases. If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price. What do you think? Do you know any examples of Artists who release most or all of their work at cheap prices and in unlimited print runs? Ltd editions are a way for some artists and galleries to make a lot of money in sales. Far easier to sell an edition on paper by a fashionable or next big thing artists promoted by a gallery than go through all the hassle of selling an individual painting to a buyer who can't make up their mind if the money spent on one painting is worth the investment. The mindset today seems to be on buyers being collectors building up portfolios of ltd editions with one eye on the artistic look and one eye on potential increase in value. Thats fine if the gallery that sells the art and the artists are doing it for the same reasons. With a long term rather than make a fast buck view. I think most unknown or not promoted artists see themselves releasing ltd editions as a way of promoting their art wider and offering something affodable to collectors whilst at the same time bringing in a bit of extra money. I see nothing wrong with producing prints in an unlimited manner if the demand is there and enough people want the print for their hoe sort of Vettriano style or whatever. Sold thru Walmart or some big department store or poster shop etc. Some artists have mad ehuge amounts of money by making art that is sold through these types of stores. The big problem with producing and selling unlimited prints for low prices is the ridiculous postage costs involved. I was told that anything that is classed as merchandise sent from France has to be sent Colissimo and the post office told me they would refuse to let me send it normal post. So can't see someone in the States buying a print for $5 and paying $30 postage for it. |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 10:36:41 GMT 1, Wood cuts or wood block printing is also used in fabric printing and wall paper printing decades ago and some countries still print with wood rollers which are carved.
I guess it's similar for screen printing which was used for fabric including on silk and wallpaper factory printing.
Watching Pawn Stars (I know it's staged) sometimes they have old civil war etc paper money which is printed by hand.
Wood cuts or wood block printing is also used in fabric printing and wall paper printing decades ago and some countries still print with wood rollers which are carved. I guess it's similar for screen printing which was used for fabric including on silk and wallpaper factory printing. Watching Pawn Stars (I know it's staged) sometimes they have old civil war etc paper money which is printed by hand. |
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Why Limited Edition Art?, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 15:19:37 GMT 1, What reason do you think Artists produce Limited Edition print runs? Artists try to make a living at selling their Art, and to do that they need to increase the values of their work by carefully controlling the levels of art released against the demand. When Banksy releases a limited edition print run, he knows the edition can be in the high hundreds or even over a thousand, and the demand will be high enough that the value will stay strong after. Other Artists judge the market and release limited editions of 10-30 as they know the after sales values will be high and that is good for increasing the sale price of their future releases. If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price. What do you think? Do you know any examples of Artists who release most or all of their work at cheap prices and in unlimited print runs?
I had a look at the site Fine Art America where artists and photographers can upload an image of their art and people can buy a print of their work which is unlimited.
If I decided to sell my art on there for example anyone buying an unlimited unsigned print would be paying twice as much as I am selling a hand finished signed limited print edition of 20 direct from my Big Cartel.
What reason do you think Artists produce Limited Edition print runs? Artists try to make a living at selling their Art, and to do that they need to increase the values of their work by carefully controlling the levels of art released against the demand. When Banksy releases a limited edition print run, he knows the edition can be in the high hundreds or even over a thousand, and the demand will be high enough that the value will stay strong after. Other Artists judge the market and release limited editions of 10-30 as they know the after sales values will be high and that is good for increasing the sale price of their future releases. If any Artist is truly not interested in increasing the values of their work, they would be releasing unlimited print runs at cost price. What do you think? Do you know any examples of Artists who release most or all of their work at cheap prices and in unlimited print runs? I had a look at the site Fine Art America where artists and photographers can upload an image of their art and people can buy a print of their work which is unlimited. If I decided to sell my art on there for example anyone buying an unlimited unsigned print would be paying twice as much as I am selling a hand finished signed limited print edition of 20 direct from my Big Cartel. |
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