mark1
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Invader LED Print, by mark1 on Sept 17, 2021 14:47:55 GMT 1, Spawning salmon sculpture :-)
Sorry had a flashback there
Spawning salmon sculpture :-)
Sorry had a flashback there
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Dubman
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Invader LED Print, by Dubman on Sept 17, 2021 17:38:16 GMT 1, Terry Tibbs is a legend - but this one still cracks me up.
Terry Tibbs is a legend - but this one still cracks me up.
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Rubberneck
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Invader LED Print, by Rubberneck on Nov 22, 2021 16:19:12 GMT 1, Looking for ยฃ12.5k for my Invader LED. Happy to entertain offers, not ones that will make me laugh though.
Print is in mint condition, unframed.
Invader 'L.E.D.', 2017 - Invader, screen print in colours on 300gsm Somerset Satin paper, signed and dated in pencil, un-numbered, aside from the main edition of 100, published by Lazarides; sheet: 50 x 70cm
Cheers
Looking for ยฃ12.5k for my Invader LED. Happy to entertain offers, not ones that will make me laugh though. Print is in mint condition, unframed. Invader 'L.E.D.', 2017 - Invader, screen print in colours on 300gsm Somerset Satin paper, signed and dated in pencil, un-numbered, aside from the main edition of 100, published by Lazarides; sheet: 50 x 70cm Cheers |
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Fะฏ
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Invader LED Print, by Fะฏ on Nov 22, 2021 16:48:42 GMT 1, Looking for ยฃ12.5k for my Invader LED. ย Happy to entertain offers, not ones that will make me laugh though. Print is in mint condition, unframed. Invader 'L.E.D.', 2017 - Invader, screen print in colours on 300gsm Somerset Satin paper, signed and dated in pencil, un-numbered, aside from the main edition of 100, published by Lazarides; sheet: 50 x 70cm Cheers
What on earth are these un numbered ones about
Someone tried to sell one on ebay recently and went down badly here
Looking for ยฃ12.5k for my Invader LED. ย Happy to entertain offers, not ones that will make me laugh though. Print is in mint condition, unframed. Invader 'L.E.D.', 2017 - Invader, screen print in colours on 300gsm Somerset Satin paper, signed and dated in pencil, un-numbered, aside from the main edition of 100, published by Lazarides; sheet: 50 x 70cm Cheers What on earth are these un numbered ones about Someone tried to sell one on ebay recently and went down badly here |
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Invader LED Print, by Happy Shopper on Nov 22, 2021 16:59:14 GMT 1, un-numbered, aside from the main edition of 100, published by Lazarides; sheet: 50 x 70cm
Do these come with a Lazarides certificate, or receipt direct from Lazarides? Or are they backdoor prints?
un-numbered, aside from the main edition of 100, published by Lazarides; sheet: 50 x 70cm Do these come with a Lazarides certificate, or receipt direct from Lazarides? Or are they backdoor prints? |
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Fะฏ
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Invader LED Print, by Fะฏ on Nov 22, 2021 17:59:54 GMT 1, It cant command the same price as a numbered one, that makes no sense
It cant command the same price as a numbered one, that makes no sense
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Poster Bob
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Invader LED Print, by Poster Bob on Nov 22, 2021 18:01:32 GMT 1, Some of them are numbered, some aren't. None of them have a Laz stamp, nor do they have a papertrail. Anything without a papertrail and a stamp should be treated as a rejected proof stolen from a dumpster, because they appear to have been. I did investigate this for a while but the new people at Laz were clueless and Orbi couldn't help out much as he didn't know the new staff.
Some of them are numbered, some aren't. None of them have a Laz stamp, nor do they have a papertrail. Anything without a papertrail and a stamp should be treated as a rejected proof stolen from a dumpster, because they appear to have been. I did investigate this for a while but the new people at Laz were clueless and Orbi couldn't help out much as he didn't know the new staff.
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Invader LED Print, by Happy Shopper on Nov 22, 2021 18:05:57 GMT 1, Some of them are numbered, some aren't. None of them have a Laz stamp, nor do they have a papertrail. Anything without a papertrail and a stamp should be treated as a rejected proof stolen from a dumpster, because they appear to have been. I did investigate this for a while but the new people at Laz were clueless and Orbi couldn't help out much as he didn't know the new staff.
Well, if Orbi and Invader don't know about them, then they're backdoor I guess !?
Some of them are numbered, some aren't. None of them have a Laz stamp, nor do they have a papertrail. Anything without a papertrail and a stamp should be treated as a rejected proof stolen from a dumpster, because they appear to have been. I did investigate this for a while but the new people at Laz were clueless and Orbi couldn't help out much as he didn't know the new staff. Well, if Orbi and Invader don't know about them, then they're backdoor I guess !? |
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Wanchope
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Invader LED Print, by Wanchope on Nov 22, 2021 18:35:40 GMT 1, I have one bought direct from Lazarides and with receipt and COA and it is numbered, signed and has a very discreet Lazarides stamp
I have one bought direct from Lazarides and with receipt and COA and it is numbered, signed and has a very discreet Lazarides stamp
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Rubberneck
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Invader LED Print, by Rubberneck on Nov 22, 2021 19:30:02 GMT 1, un-numbered, aside from the main edition of 100, published by Lazarides; sheet: 50 x 70cm Do these come with a Lazarides certificate, or receipt direct from Lazarides? Or are they backdoor prints?
I have a papertrail to Tate Ward where I bought this at auction.
un-numbered, aside from the main edition of 100, published by Lazarides; sheet: 50 x 70cm Do these come with a Lazarides certificate, or receipt direct from Lazarides? Or are they backdoor prints? Hi mate, I have a papertrail to Tate Ward where I bought this at auction. |
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Rubberneck
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Invader LED Print, by Rubberneck on Nov 22, 2021 19:41:34 GMT 1, Some of them are numbered, some aren't. None of them have a Laz stamp, nor do they have a papertrail. Anything without a papertrail and a stamp should be treated as a rejected proof stolen from a dumpster, because they appear to have been. I did investigate this for a while but the new people at Laz were clueless and Orbi couldn't help out much as he didn't know the new staff.
I have a paper trail to Tate Ward.
This print is signed by the artist.
My opinion is that the first print run had problems with the blue dots. The gallery did a 2nd print run to replace any that were sent back in. Not all of the 1st print run weโre sent back leaving some extras that were signed and rather than being destroyed have made their way to market.
So this one is from the higher quality 2nd print run with no imperfections, itโs signed by the artist and is in all respects the same as the numbered edition print, same paper, same silkscreens, inks etcโฆ Itโs also mint as can be seen in the photographs. Itโs being sold as aside from the main edition.
I have based the price on the last one sold at Digard for ยฃ14.4k.
open to offers, Will ignore lowballs
Some of them are numbered, some aren't. None of them have a Laz stamp, nor do they have a papertrail. Anything without a papertrail and a stamp should be treated as a rejected proof stolen from a dumpster, because they appear to have been. I did investigate this for a while but the new people at Laz were clueless and Orbi couldn't help out much as he didn't know the new staff. Thatโs an interesting opinion about it being a rejected proof, thanks for sharing it Bob, but itโs just your opinion itโs not based on any provable fact. I have a paper trail to Tate Ward. This print is signed by the artist. My opinion is that the first print run had problems with the blue dots. The gallery did a 2nd print run to replace any that were sent back in. Not all of the 1st print run weโre sent back leaving some extras that were signed and rather than being destroyed have made their way to market. So this one is from the higher quality 2nd print run with no imperfections, itโs signed by the artist and is in all respects the same as the numbered edition print, same paper, same silkscreens, inks etcโฆ Itโs also mint as can be seen in the photographs. Itโs being sold as aside from the main edition. I have based the price on the last one sold at Digard for ยฃ14.4k. open to offers, Will ignore lowballs |
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Invader LED Print, by Happy Shopper on Nov 22, 2021 19:44:58 GMT 1, Do these come with a Lazarides certificate, or receipt direct from Lazarides? Or are they backdoor prints? Hi mate, I have a papertrail to Tate Ward where I bought this at auction.
Sounds like someone sneaked these out the backdoor, and are therefore unofficial. Signed or not.
Do these come with a Lazarides certificate, or receipt direct from Lazarides? Or are they backdoor prints? Hi mate, I have a papertrail to Tate Ward where I bought this at auction. Sounds like someone sneaked these out the backdoor, and are therefore unofficial. Signed or not. |
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Rubberneck
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Invader LED Print, by Rubberneck on Nov 22, 2021 19:46:33 GMT 1, Hi mate, I have a papertrail to Tate Ward where I bought this at auction. Sounds like someone sneaked these out the backdoor, and are therefore unofficial. Signed or not.
Hi mate, I have a papertrail to Tate Ward where I bought this at auction. Sounds like someone sneaked these out the backdoor, and are therefore unofficial. Signed or not. And that is reflected in the reduced price, still a knock out signed print. |
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Rubberneck
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Invader LED Print, by Rubberneck on Nov 22, 2021 19:47:44 GMT 1, Some of them are numbered, some aren't. None of them have a Laz stamp, nor do they have a papertrail. Anything without a papertrail and a stamp should be treated as a rejected proof stolen from a dumpster, because they appear to have been. I did investigate this for a while but the new people at Laz were clueless and Orbi couldn't help out much as he didn't know the new staff. Well, if Orbi and Invader don't know about them, then they're backdoor I guess !?
Some of them are numbered, some aren't. None of them have a Laz stamp, nor do they have a papertrail. Anything without a papertrail and a stamp should be treated as a rejected proof stolen from a dumpster, because they appear to have been. I did investigate this for a while but the new people at Laz were clueless and Orbi couldn't help out much as he didn't know the new staff. Well, if Orbi and Invader don't know about them, then they're backdoor I guess !? Invader signed it ๐๐ป |
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Lazarus II
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Invader LED Print, by Lazarus II on Nov 22, 2021 20:00:07 GMT 1, Was it Harry at TW who looked it over ?
Was it Harry at TW who looked it over ?
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Invader LED Print, by Happy Shopper on Nov 22, 2021 20:04:45 GMT 1, Well, if Orbi and Invader don't know about them, then they're backdoor I guess !? Invader signed it ๐๐ป
Says who?
This is your problem.
Could be a fake signature on an unsigned back door print.
All artists sign extra copies of prints, in case of damage, but they should be destroyed later (or are often marked as APs or PPs and sold officially)
Well, if Orbi and Invader don't know about them, then they're backdoor I guess !? Invader signed it ๐๐ป Says who? This is your problem. Could be a fake signature on an unsigned back door print. All artists sign extra copies of prints, in case of damage, but they should be destroyed later (or are often marked as APs or PPs and sold officially) |
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Fะฏ
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Invader LED Print, by Fะฏ on Nov 22, 2021 20:07:00 GMT 1, Tate ward
Lol
Tate ward
Lol
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Fะฏ
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Invader LED Print, by Fะฏ on Nov 22, 2021 20:13:33 GMT 1, Sounds like someone sneaked these out the backdoor, and are therefore unofficial. Signed or not. And that is reflected in the reduced price, still a knock out signed print.
its not a reduced price, its a top price
Sounds like someone sneaked these out the backdoor, and are therefore unofficial. Signed or not. And that is reflected in the reduced price, still a knock out signed print. its not a reduced price, its a top price |
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Ads Army
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Invader LED Print, by Ads Army on Nov 22, 2021 20:25:58 GMT 1, A true LED would be fetching ยฃ15k+
A true LED would be fetching ยฃ15k+
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Richy Rich
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Invader LED Print, by Richy Rich on Nov 22, 2021 20:39:37 GMT 1, A true LED would be fetching ยฃ15k+
According to Artsy thereโs one for sale for $17.5k/ยฃ13k at a gallery. No idea how accurate Artsy is in terms of keeping info up to date.
Where are you getting your ยฃ15k+ figure from? Have there been any sales you know of for over that amount?
A true LED would be fetching ยฃ15k+ According to Artsy thereโs one for sale for $17.5k/ยฃ13k at a gallery. No idea how accurate Artsy is in terms of keeping info up to date. Where are you getting your ยฃ15k+ figure from? Have there been any sales you know of for over that amount? |
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Poster Bob
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Invader LED Print, by Poster Bob on Nov 22, 2021 20:43:58 GMT 1, No ifs, ands, or buts about it, you were taken advantage of by Tate Ward unless you have a clear papertrail going back to Laz. You should pursue them for a refund and not attempt to resell it. Have some integrity.
No ifs, ands, or buts about it, you were taken advantage of by Tate Ward unless you have a clear papertrail going back to Laz. You should pursue them for a refund and not attempt to resell it. Have some integrity.
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Wanchope
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Invader LED Print, by Wanchope on Nov 22, 2021 21:30:52 GMT 1, My brother bought one for 14.5k gbp a month ago from a dealer if this helps on values. Personally I would think these are worth between 13-15k right now.
My brother bought one for 14.5k gbp a month ago from a dealer if this helps on values. Personally I would think these are worth between 13-15k right now.
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Rubberneck
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Invader LED Print, by Rubberneck on Nov 22, 2021 21:31:31 GMT 1, Lol integrity, thanks again for your comment. I appreciate you have a purist approach to these things.
honest listing described fairly โ
priced below market price โ
top quality print signed by the artist โ
Its not a misprint, there are no imperfections, itโs a perfect example of what the artist intended. It deserves to be in circulation.
I honestly donโt understand your salty attitudes towards it.
Lol integrity, thanks again for your comment. I appreciate you have a purist approach to these things.
honest listing described fairly โ
priced below market price โ
top quality print signed by the artist โ
Its not a misprint, there are no imperfections, itโs a perfect example of what the artist intended. It deserves to be in circulation.
I honestly donโt understand your salty attitudes towards it.
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Poster Bob
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Invader LED Print, by Poster Bob on Nov 22, 2021 21:35:43 GMT 1, Stolen from a dumpster Check
Not intended for resale Check
Authenticity from the shadiest auction house there is Check
No authentic documents from the original gallery Check
Stolen from a dumpster Check
Not intended for resale Check
Authenticity from the shadiest auction house there is Check
No authentic documents from the original gallery Check
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ststwalls
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Invader LED Print, by ststwalls on Nov 22, 2021 21:38:21 GMT 1, Mint condition ?
Guys but am I the only one seeing those creases? (I've circled them in red).
Mint condition ? Guys but am I the only one seeing those creases? (I've circled them in red). |
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Invader LED Print, by Happy Shopper on Nov 22, 2021 21:38:55 GMT 1, I donโt think Banksy back door prints sell for this much, or even unauthenticated gift prints, so not sure why anyone would pay so much for an unauthorised Invader!?
I donโt think Banksy back door prints sell for this much, or even unauthenticated gift prints, so not sure why anyone would pay so much for an unauthorised Invader!?
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Lazarus II
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Invader LED Print, by Lazarus II on Nov 22, 2021 21:47:05 GMT 1, Lol integrity, thanks again for your comment. ย I appreciate you have a purist approach to these things. honest listing described fairly โ
priced below market price ย โ
top quality print signed by the artist โ
Its not a misprint, there are no imperfections, itโs a perfect example of what the artist intended. ย It deserves to be in circulation. I honestly donโt understand your salty attitudes towards it.
the version the artist intended to be in circulation is numbered as well as signed, dated and stamped. Its not the authorised release but the asking price is not far off the price for an authorised version, this would explain the salty comments. That said, im sure someone will buy it if the price is right, plenty of the unathorised Prisoners were sold on here.
Lol integrity, thanks again for your comment. ย I appreciate you have a purist approach to these things. honest listing described fairly โ
priced below market price ย โ
top quality print signed by the artist โ
Its not a misprint, there are no imperfections, itโs a perfect example of what the artist intended. ย It deserves to be in circulation. I honestly donโt understand your salty attitudes towards it. the version the artist intended to be in circulation is numbered as well as signed, dated and stamped. Its not the authorised release but the asking price is not far off the price for an authorised version, this would explain the salty comments. That said, im sure someone will buy it if the price is right, plenty of the unathorised Prisoners were sold on here. |
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Rubberneck
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Invader LED Print, by Rubberneck on Nov 22, 2021 22:00:11 GMT 1, Lol integrity, thanks again for your comment. I appreciate you have a purist approach to these things. honest listing described fairly โ
priced below market price โ
top quality print signed by the artist โ
Its not a misprint, there are no imperfections, itโs a perfect example of what the artist intended. It deserves to be in circulation. I honestly donโt understand your salty attitudes towards it. the version the artist intended to be in circulation is numbered as well as signed, dated and stamped. Its not the authorised release but the asking price is not far off the price for an authorised version, this would explain the salty comments. That said, im sure someone will buy it if the price is right, plenty of the unathorised Prisoners were sold on here.
The reasons itโs in circulation are prior to my ownership. In terms of pricing I just looked at the last one sold at auction and knocked off ยฃ2k, about 15%.
Lol integrity, thanks again for your comment. I appreciate you have a purist approach to these things. honest listing described fairly โ
priced below market price โ
top quality print signed by the artist โ
Its not a misprint, there are no imperfections, itโs a perfect example of what the artist intended. It deserves to be in circulation. I honestly donโt understand your salty attitudes towards it. the version the artist intended to be in circulation is numbered as well as signed, dated and stamped. Its not the authorised release but the asking price is not far off the price for an authorised version, this would explain the salty comments. That said, im sure someone will buy it if the price is right, plenty of the unathorised Prisoners were sold on here. Thanks man, appreciate your post.. though Iโm not sure itโs the price alone thatโs cause for the salt..itโs good there are strong principals here and that forumites look out for buyers and discuss these points. The reasons itโs in circulation are prior to my ownership. In terms of pricing I just looked at the last one sold at auction and knocked off ยฃ2k, about 15%. |
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Javier
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Invader LED Print, by Javier on Nov 22, 2021 23:09:30 GMT 1,
Fair price?
Fair price? |
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Rubberneck
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Invader LED Print, by Rubberneck on Nov 22, 2021 23:30:42 GMT 1, Yes Javier, thatโs the one. As I said above, I got it from Tate Ward.. At the time I thought it was fair value as I love the image and it was cheaper than main edition, which was about 15% more at the time. Thanks for spending the time to look that up.
Yes Javier, thatโs the one. As I said above, I got it from Tate Ward.. At the time I thought it was fair value as I love the image and it was cheaper than main edition, which was about 15% more at the time. Thanks for spending the time to look that up.
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