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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by highflyer on Jun 28, 2017 17:39:21 GMT 1, That would be low imho considering size and the edition but what do I know. I agree. People who got it made a good deal.
Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then?
That would be low imho considering size and the edition but what do I know. I agree. People who got it made a good deal. Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by WOOF on Jun 28, 2017 17:42:49 GMT 1, I agree. People who got it made a good deal. Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then?
An auction for charity. Definitely not market price.
I agree. People who got it made a good deal. Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? An auction for charity. Definitely not market price. |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by cyberkid on Jun 28, 2017 17:45:28 GMT 1, 15k for ceramic tiles or 20k for an unsigned piece of paper...
Where could this lead ?
15k for ceramic tiles or 20k for an unsigned piece of paper...
Where could this lead ?
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highflyer
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by highflyer on Jun 28, 2017 17:47:31 GMT 1, Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? An auction for charity. Definitely not market price.
If you really think that had an effect at the lower end...
Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? An auction for charity. Definitely not market price. If you really think that had an effect at the lower end... |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Matt on Jun 28, 2017 17:47:50 GMT 1, 15k for ceramic tiles or 20k for an unsigned piece of paper... Where could this lead ?
Very expensive bathrooms and toilet paper ?
15k for ceramic tiles or 20k for an unsigned piece of paper... Where could this lead ? Very expensive bathrooms and toilet paper ? |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Lroy on Jun 28, 2017 17:54:26 GMT 1, 15k for ceramic tiles or 20k for an unsigned piece of paper... Where could this lead ? Very expensive bathrooms and toilet paper ?
lol
15k for ceramic tiles or 20k for an unsigned piece of paper... Where could this lead ? Very expensive bathrooms and toilet paper ? lol |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by jluhiex on Jun 28, 2017 17:55:34 GMT 1, I agree. People who got it made a good deal. Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then?
I agree. People who got it made a good deal. Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k |
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cyberkid
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by cyberkid on Jun 28, 2017 17:59:39 GMT 1, 15k for ceramic tiles or 20k for an unsigned piece of paper... Where could this lead ? Very expensive bathrooms and toilet paper ?
15k for ceramic tiles or 20k for an unsigned piece of paper... Where could this lead ? Very expensive bathrooms and toilet paper ? |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Pawel on Jun 28, 2017 18:01:54 GMT 1, Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k
Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k I've check the size and only IK#15 is 4 tiimes smaller than this with the others much smaller |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Happy Shopper on Jun 28, 2017 18:02:26 GMT 1, Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? An auction for charity. Definitely not market price.
I doubt charity has had any effect on this sale... although I'd love to know the least and most people have paid across the 25!
Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? An auction for charity. Definitely not market price. I doubt charity has had any effect on this sale... although I'd love to know the least and most people have paid across the 25! |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Dexter Bulldog on Jun 28, 2017 18:03:45 GMT 1, Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k
Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k bigger isnt always better- unless my wife has been lying to me all these years. |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Matt on Jun 28, 2017 18:06:17 GMT 1, If it really did go for 12k that is a very good deal for this piece.
This is not any kit, it is big, with the 5cm tiles which not only is unique but looks absolutely great. You can compare to previous editions but it is really quite different.
Silver and Gold Sanes of similar edition are also selling for much more than 12k
However, I suspect these kits will have gone for more than 12...a lot of people at the moment betting on Invader and who have more than that to spare
If it really did go for 12k that is a very good deal for this piece.
This is not any kit, it is big, with the 5cm tiles which not only is unique but looks absolutely great. You can compare to previous editions but it is really quite different.
Silver and Gold Sanes of similar edition are also selling for much more than 12k
However, I suspect these kits will have gone for more than 12...a lot of people at the moment betting on Invader and who have more than that to spare
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Pawel
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Pawel on Jun 28, 2017 18:06:42 GMT 1, An auction for charity. Definitely not market price. I doubt charity has had any effect on this sale... although I'd love to know the least and most people have paid across the 25!
An auction for charity. Definitely not market price. I doubt charity has had any effect on this sale... although I'd love to know the least and most people have paid across the 25! If one could somehow get the tax relief for charity donation... |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Happy Shopper on Jun 28, 2017 18:07:38 GMT 1, the bonus is you wont find any flippers on this release.
I'm pretty sure they'll try.
the bonus is you wont find any flippers on this release. I'm pretty sure they'll try. |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by BKBOI on Jun 28, 2017 18:08:14 GMT 1, Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k
But what happens when the bubble pops? This was too much money for an Invader tile 12 months ago.
Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k But what happens when the bubble pops? This was too much money for an Invader tile 12 months ago. |
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highflyer
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by highflyer on Jun 28, 2017 18:18:46 GMT 1, Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k
But you don't have 25 of them selling...
Wasn't it an auction? So is that not just market price then? Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k But you don't have 25 of them selling... |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by WOOF on Jun 28, 2017 18:20:33 GMT 1, I doubt charity has had any effect on this sale... although I'd love to know the least and most people have paid across the 25! If one could somehow get the tax relief for charity donation...
Imagine the possibilities...
I doubt charity has had any effect on this sale... although I'd love to know the least and most people have paid across the 25! If one could somehow get the tax relief for charity donation... Imagine the possibilities... |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Art Fan 2011 on Jun 28, 2017 18:29:32 GMT 1, The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way!
The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way!
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by jluhiex on Jun 28, 2017 18:30:39 GMT 1, Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k bigger isnt always better- unless my wife has been lying to me all these years.
Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k bigger isnt always better- unless my wife has been lying to me all these years. In the art world it is. Oil/Acrylic on canvas go by size. Obviously image quality is 1st. But after that you calculate based on square/cm. |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by jluhiex on Jun 28, 2017 18:33:42 GMT 1, Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k But what happens when the bubble pops? This was too much money for an Invader tile 12 months ago.
Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k But what happens when the bubble pops? This was too much money for an Invader tile 12 months ago. If you're looking at art as an invest you also take on the risk as well. Look at Eelus, Adam Neate, Futura, Faile etc. If we're talking about market value relative to comps then the edition size and physical size of the piece is a relative bargain. |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by BKBOI on Jun 28, 2017 18:33:53 GMT 1, The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way!
The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation.
The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way! The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation. |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Matt on Jun 28, 2017 18:40:19 GMT 1, The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way! The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation.
But the number of available works is probably im the same ballpark due to the smaller edition sizes, so not really a point either way
The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way! The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation. [ But the number of available works is probably im the same ballpark due to the smaller edition sizes, so not really a point either way |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by jluhiex on Jun 28, 2017 18:40:37 GMT 1, Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k But you don't have 25 of them selling...
I've seen Damien Hirst spot print challenge print personalized to each individual sell for $25k. You have personalized Kaws books selling for $1500. Just because they aren't selling at this moment doesn't mean someone else won't buy it later down the line. The only thing we can compare it to is current market value of comparable pieces.
Based on edition number, size, and medium it's a relative bargain. You have kits 1/3 the size, 10x the edition size selling for 5k But you don't have 25 of them selling... OTI never said you couldn't sell it...and even if they made you sign a contract would they legally be able to enforce it? I've seen Damien Hirst spot print challenge print personalized to each individual sell for $25k. You have personalized Kaws books selling for $1500. Just because they aren't selling at this moment doesn't mean someone else won't buy it later down the line. The only thing we can compare it to is current market value of comparable pieces. |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by anic on Jun 28, 2017 19:05:26 GMT 1, The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way! The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation.
2 drops in 2 years is hardly pumping releases .
The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way! The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation. 2 drops in 2 years is hardly pumping releases . |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by cyberkid on Jun 28, 2017 19:14:49 GMT 1, The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way! The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation.
I don't think so
The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way! The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation. I don't think so |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by mla on Jun 28, 2017 20:19:37 GMT 1, The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation. I don't think so
The lack of a Banksy release is what is keeping prices up. Invader continues to pump out works so not the same situation. I don't think so Great retort. Quite detailed and well thought out. |
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by The Italian One on Jun 28, 2017 20:50:26 GMT 1, so.. now the auction is closed! how much the 25 lucky "winner" did pay for the kit, in your opinion?
so.. now the auction is closed! how much the 25 lucky "winner" did pay for the kit, in your opinion?
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by rosac on Jun 28, 2017 20:57:48 GMT 1, A gazillion dollars
A gazillion dollars
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 20:58:22 GMT 1, I reckon about 14
I reckon about 14
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Invader Invasion Kit MSF, by spirit on Jun 28, 2017 21:03:52 GMT 1, The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way!
The Banksy bubble has been inflating at a fairly consistent rate for 15 years or so. Arguably it is not a bubble at all but simply a recognition of his unquestionable impact on the art world, which goes far beyond street art e.g. Dismaland and The Walled Off Hotel etc etc. It is very easy to explain the increase in Banksy's prices.
The Invader bubble spent 10 years doing not very much. Yes his stuff increased in value but slowly. A print I bought for ยฃ250 in 2007, I might have got 1 or 1.5k for 8 years later. But in only another 18 months it is suddenly worth 7k. Why? I still haven't heard anything like a reasonable and convincing explanation for this sudden and rapid increase.
I like Invader's work - but it is very one dimensional when compared to what Banksy does - there really is no comparison. I would certainly not buy Invader at current secondary market prices. And even primary market prices are getting to the level where a buyer could get hurt if everything suddenly goes pop.
Of course, if you have the money to burn and you truly love the art then you have nothing to fear.
The bubble may not pop, the Banksy bubble hasn't, this could go the same way! The Banksy bubble and the invader bubble are VERY different things... The Banksy bubble has been inflating at a fairly consistent rate for 15 years or so. Arguably it is not a bubble at all but simply a recognition of his unquestionable impact on the art world, which goes far beyond street art e.g. Dismaland and The Walled Off Hotel etc etc. It is very easy to explain the increase in Banksy's prices. The Invader bubble spent 10 years doing not very much. Yes his stuff increased in value but slowly. A print I bought for ยฃ250 in 2007, I might have got 1 or 1.5k for 8 years later. But in only another 18 months it is suddenly worth 7k. Why? I still haven't heard anything like a reasonable and convincing explanation for this sudden and rapid increase. I like Invader's work - but it is very one dimensional when compared to what Banksy does - there really is no comparison. I would certainly not buy Invader at current secondary market prices. And even primary market prices are getting to the level where a buyer could get hurt if everything suddenly goes pop. Of course, if you have the money to burn and you truly love the art then you have nothing to fear. |
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